View Full Version : Is the rebuild through the draft complete?
Big Empty
07-01-2025, 07:34 AM
I always said i expect the Spurs to make the playoffs by Wemby’s third year. From here on out our draft pick next year and ATLs in 27 are gonna at best be high teens where we still might find a role player, but for the most part barring any major injuries, our lottery picks are hopefully a thing of the past. We still have a few swaps left a ways down the road but i dont expect Dallas or Minnesota to fall off with their young cores. I think from here on out this is the team we’re rolling with the next 5 years with a few minor trades or free agency signings to fill some spots. We’ve been blessed with the 1st/4th/2nd picks of the draft the last 3 years. What do yall think?
LeBowen
07-01-2025, 07:49 AM
We better hope so, not being over .500 in the upcoming season would be a massive failure, assuming Wemby stays healthy.
The way I look at it is that Fox has 4 Spurs seasons in him until Harper's extension kicks in and tough decisions are made.
Until then he's a guarantee and if Castle/Harper are the real deal, we'll just need to keep recycling 3-D wings because as simple as it sounds that's all we'll need with Wemby being a top5 player in the league as soon as this upcoming season.
4lifecowboy
07-01-2025, 07:56 AM
Fox will be extended, but Fox won't be here for four seasons. He will be traded as soon as Harper is ready to take the reins.
Guru of Nothing
07-01-2025, 08:51 AM
All the major pieces are in place, so I say yes, rebuilding through the draft is essentially done without a surpring trade that nets us decent first round draft material.
Roster development on the other hand is major work in progress. My bold prediction is the Spurs will struggle early in the season figuring things out, and the moaning in this place will go up to 11, no 12 (I'm looking at you, Usual Suspects)... and then it will all turn to excitement as we roll into the trade deadline with most of our issues ironed out. The "trade deadline" thread will be on fire come February.
Fireball
07-01-2025, 09:10 AM
I just pray we stay healthy ...
John B
07-01-2025, 09:15 AM
I really wished they came out with a project big with their #38 like Reynaud (still cannot move on). They have 7 FRP’s and tons of SRP’s that they can trade to move up on future drafts if they see a good prospect. Wemby is a magnet for ring chasers so I’m optimistic there would be plenty offerings their services for cheap. I don’t really expect them moving Vassell, Keldon, Sochan. It’s just not what the Spurs do, unless they ask for it, and for a better situation, for more minutes. I think the roster is set until there are waivers or buy outs to add depending their potential position in the playoffs.
thOOdee
07-01-2025, 09:51 AM
With all the seconds the spurs have, not sure how they get rid of all of them. drafting will still be focused on, however i do believe there now will be more of an emphasize on finding proven talent, so 1st rounders will be more so on the table from here on out.
Mugen
07-01-2025, 09:59 AM
I hope so, otherwise we're f'd :lol
Poolboy5623
07-01-2025, 10:10 AM
I really wished they came out with a project big with their #38 like Reynaud (still cannot move on). They have 7 FRP’s and tons of SRP’s that they can trade to move up on future drafts if they see a good prospect. Wemby is a magnet for ring chasers so I’m optimistic there would be plenty offerings their services for cheap. I don’t really expect them moving Vassell, Keldon, Sochan. It’s just not what the Spurs do, unless they ask for it, and for a better situation, for more minutes. I think the roster is set until there are waivers or buy outs to add depending their potential position in the playoffs.
Wemby is a magnet for ring chasers?
CorrectCrusader
07-01-2025, 10:54 AM
Yes
spurraider21
07-01-2025, 11:39 AM
should be. at this point we should be looking at role player types in the draft who can fit around the roster, not finding guys who define the roster.
John B
07-01-2025, 12:17 PM
Wemby is a magnet for ring chasers?
Trae, KD… The list goes on who preferred signing with the Spurs. And it’s going to be more once the Spurs are contending. Do you doubt the Wemby effect??
Ice009
07-01-2025, 12:40 PM
Wemby is a magnet for ring chasers?
This is something I've been thinking of this offseason. If the Spurs don't make the playoffs, Victor might not continue to be a draw card. It's very important now that the Spurs start making the playoffs and start looking legit. If that happens, then I think he will definitely be a draw for free agents.
If Mitch isn’t dogshit, yes, the wait should be over. Anything less than the play-in is officially a catastrophic failure going forward.
Poolboy5623
07-01-2025, 01:26 PM
Trae, KD… The list goes on who preferred signing with the Spurs. And it’s going to be more once the Spurs are contending. Do you doubt the Wemby effect??
I don't doubt its potential. He hasn't even sniffed a playoff game.
John B
07-01-2025, 01:48 PM
I don't doubt its potential. He hasn't even sniffed a playoff game.
The question was “is the rebuild through draft complete?” because moving forward the Spurs would likely have drafts in high teens. I said they have tons of future picks that they could trade up, or I don’t doubt talents offering services because of Wemby especially when they start contending. Already it was shown with Trae, KD and others rumored to preferred the Spurs as destination. This despite Wemby “hasn’t even sniffed” the playoffs as you said. Which part don’t you agree?
RC_Drunkford
07-01-2025, 01:49 PM
Absolutely not. We might be in the lottery again next season and we still have swaps galore. We‘ll just keep adding new friends.
scott
07-01-2025, 02:17 PM
The "rebuild through the draft" better be fucking complete. How many lottery picks, let alone top 4 picks, should a team need?
If our natural pick is a lotto pick this year (barring a major rash of injuries), then the entire FO and coaching staff should be completely cleaned out. Hopefully that is easy enough to agree upon.
BackHome
07-01-2025, 09:28 PM
As far as lottery picks, we are though I still think with the Hawks pick we can possibly get a good PF or Center in either 2026 or 2027.
exstatic
07-02-2025, 06:28 AM
The "rebuild through the draft" better be fucking complete. How many lottery picks, let alone top 4 picks, should a team need?
If our natural pick is a lotto pick this year (barring a major rash of injuries), then the entire FO and coaching staff should be completely cleaned out. Hopefully that is easy enough to agree upon.
Interesting that TaT projects us to finish 7th in the West, Atlanta 8th in the East, and we swap #20 for #15 and draft at that spot.
I think our stars of the future are on the roster, yes. Now it’s about developing them, doing the roster churn game, and finding good complementary pieces in trade and the draft like Bryant.
Splits
07-02-2025, 07:22 AM
Interesting that TaT projects us to finish 7th in the West, Atlanta 8th in the East, and we swap #20 for #15 and draft at that spot.
Hawks have had a killer offseason, Porzingod, NAW, Kennard, Newell. That's a top-4 team in the East.
exstatic
07-02-2025, 07:34 AM
Hawks have had a killer offseason, Porzingod, NAW, Kennard, Newell. That's a top-4 team in the East.
The assumption being that whatever flattened Porz is over. He played like dogshit when he came back last year.
Twisted_Dawg
07-02-2025, 08:05 AM
The "rebuild through the draft" better be fucking complete. How many lottery picks, let alone top 4 picks, should a team need?
If our natural pick is a lotto pick this year (barring a major rash of injuries), then the entire FO and coaching staff should be completely cleaned out. Hopefully that is easy enough to agree upon.
My sentiments exactly. And this should include ownership. I'm wondering if the Holt kids get completely snowed by PATFO. Might be in the Spurs best interest if Dell could become majority owner. He's built a multi billion dollar international business and knows the closers from the dead weight.
baseline bum
07-02-2025, 09:43 AM
If our natural pick is a lotto pick this year (barring a major rash of injuries), then the entire FO and coaching staff should be completely cleaned out. Hopefully that is easy enough to agree upon.
And of course after all the good coaches like Jenkins and Vogel are probably off the market.
baseline bum
07-02-2025, 09:45 AM
My sentiments exactly. And this should include ownership. I'm wondering if the Holt kids get completely snowed by PATFO. Might be in the Spurs best interest if Dell could become majority owner. He's built a multi billion dollar international business and knows the closers from the dead weight.
Dell's a scammer who makes his money conning old people into buying extended warranties and cheaping out at every turn on their PCs. If Dell ever takes 51% ownership this team will be just as fucked as it was under cheap ass Red McCombs.
The Truth #6
07-02-2025, 10:46 AM
It should be over. Giving Harper #2 feels like a turning point as well, symbolically at least. I didn't think they would have the guts to move on from Nephew.
poopbox
07-02-2025, 12:29 PM
Trae, KD… The list goes on who preferred signing with the Spurs. And it’s going to be more once the Spurs are contending. Do you doubt the Wemby effect??
I mean did these players end up signing with the Spurs? Last I checked KD was in Houston and Trae was in Atlanta. Only "i want to play for the spurs" player we got so far is Fox, which is great. But that's 1 out of 3. Nothing to brag about.
John B
07-02-2025, 12:53 PM
I mean did these players end up signing with the Spurs? Last I checked KD was in Houston and Trae was in Atlanta. Only "i want to play for the spurs" player we got so far is Fox, which is great. But that's 1 out of 3. Nothing to brag about.
I think you missed the point of Wemby as magnet for FA offering their services to the Spurs. My point is now we have a player on Wemby who will have players wanting to play for the Spurs. That didn’t really happen even during the Big 3. Except for LMA who had to choose between Spurs and Suns, and LMA chose to be closer to his kids, but you know that. My point is Spurs are not limited so much by Drafts. Having the Wemby Effect changes Spurs attracting talents like no other small markets would. It’s not impossible that even a Giannis could be knocking on Spurs doors to have a chance to play alongside Wemby. We got Wemby! Yes, it’s something to brag about.
poopbox
07-02-2025, 01:40 PM
I think you missed the point of Wemby as magnet for FA offering their services to the Spurs. My point is now we have a player on Wemby who will have players wanting to play for the Spurs. That didn’t really happen even during the Big 3. Except for LMA who had to choose between Spurs and Suns, and LMA chose to be closer to his kids, but you know that. My point is Spurs are not limited so much by Drafts. Having the Wemby Effect changes Spurs attracting talents like no other small markets would. It’s not impossible that even a Giannis could be knocking on Spurs doors to have a chance to play alongside Wemby. We got Wemby! Yes, it’s something to brag about.
I don't see the value of players wanting to play here when the team doesn't actually sign them to play here. When the spurs actually sign these players then it will mean something. I don't see the value of any player being a free agent magnet anywhere and the team doesn't follow through with signing said players.
Could Giannis come knocking on the Spurs door? Sure. Could he knock somewhere else? Yep. I don't think it's a wise strategy to horde your assets thinking your most coveted player will actually play for you. One thing this free agency has shown is that there is no lengths the Bucks won't go through to try and put a competitive team around Giannis. Which is in stark contrast to the conservative team building strategy of the Spurs. You think a player who every off season talks about the team he plays for needs to be doing everything they can to improve the team is going to be fine going to a team who has done nothing but wait for gold to fall in their laps the last 5 years like the Spurs have? Giannis would have to do a complete 180 from what he has been doing. Don't see that happening. If Giannis does want to leave I see him wanting to go to a team who is aggressive in free agency. That most certainly isn't the Spurs.
Often times when we talk about nba players and trades, we leave out the human element. A player putting pressure on an organization every off season to improve is highly unlikely to have any interest in a team who has spent years doing almost nothing to improve other than getting high lottery picks.
TheBallsbreakers
07-02-2025, 02:42 PM
I always said i expect the Spurs to make the playoffs by Wemby’s third year. From here on out our draft pick next year and ATLs in 27 are gonna at best be high teens where we still might find a role player, but for the most part barring any major injuries, our lottery picks are hopefully a thing of the past. We still have a few swaps left a ways down the road but i dont expect Dallas or Minnesota to fall off with their young cores. I think from here on out this is the team we’re rolling with the next 5 years with a few minor trades or free agency signings to fill some spots. We’ve been blessed with the 1st/4th/2nd picks of the draft the last 3 years. What do yall think?
Sure would like to think so. I am way more optimistic than most. I feel like this team is on the verge of contending.
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