The Inevitable Contract Signing Announcement of David Jones-Garcia

[mudyez]

Is there anything wrong with him that still he hasn’t got signed in despite a great showing at the S-League. He got great handles, putting people on skates. His self-creation is superb and pretty clutch on taking over games, and he has shown commitment to play defense. So why hasn’t he got a contract yet?

Maybe just because he prefers to play more for (maybe) more money. We don't know what his side thinks.

[Chinook]

People over estimate his talent compared to NBA players. I like him and want him signed, but most fringe NBA players would dominate the summer league. That's to say that he's more likely trying to weigh a non-guaranteed contract versus a two-way than commanding multiple multi-year fully guaranteed offers. I'm not even sure the Spurs are willing to offer a Hinkie Special like they did with Champ right now, and despite what I said, DJG can justify holding out from signing a two-way or camp deal at this point.

[J_Paco]

People over estimate his talent compared to NBA players. I like him and want him signed, but most fringe NBA players would dominate the summer league. That's to say that he's more likely trying to weigh a non-guaranteed contract versus a two-way than commanding multiple multi-year fully guaranteed offers. I'm not even sure the Spurs are willing to offer a Hinkie Special like they did with Champ right now, and despite what I said, DJG can justify holding out from signing a two-way or camp deal at this point.

He seems to slot in as a 'gunner'/'microwave scorer' on offense which is a role that the bench lacks (unless Vassell moves to the beach) now that Branham is gone. Now, one can argue those types aren't valued amongst teams (a lot of those archetypes are currently unsigned), and you may be right, but I like having that option off the bench.

Especially on nights when the regular 10-man rotation is doing nothing but bricking shots.

[exstatic]

Maybe just because he prefers to play more for (maybe) more money. We don't know what his side thinks.

If it was a money thing,he would have gone to Olympiacos. He’d make more in Europe than a year one minimum NBA salary.

[callo1]

The lack of signing this guy is just baffling. I'm not of the belief that he is just good due to playing against Summer League talent...the guy can play. It isn't like he would be put into the starting rotation, he would be playing against other NBA reserves.

Sign the man

[bigfan]

Has to be his agent is holding out for the right offer, I hope he sticks around.

[Mr. Body]

The lack of signing this guy is just baffling. I'm not of the belief that he is just good due to playing against Summer League talent...the guy can play. It isn't like he would be put into the starting rotation, he would be playing against other NBA reserves.

Sign the man

Afaik the Spurs haven't filled any of their last bench spots, including SL players. They seem to be waiting for something, or I don't know what.

[Darkwaters]

I keep wondering if a trade is in the works that maybe requires other pieces to move first? Sometimes the league is like Tetris where everybody is waiting for that one piece to slot in and then we see significant movement all at once.

[Uriel]

Is there anything wrong with him that still he hasn’t got signed in despite a great showing at the S-League. He got great handles, putting people on skates. His self-creation is superb and pretty clutch on taking over games, and he has shown commitment to play defense. So why hasn’t he got a contract yet?
Has a two-way offer on the table from the Spurs but is waiting to see if he can get more, perhaps elsewhere.

[talkspurs]

Has a two-way offer on the table from the Spurs but is waiting to see if he can get more, perhaps elsewhere.

Do we know this or is this just a guess?

[exstatic]

Do we know this or is this just a guess?

Unless it’s game stats, everything in this thread is a guess.

[BSfromTX]

Would be great to have him, but not exactly what we need unless Fox, Castle, or Harper go down.

He looks shorter than Harper, so he's not playing any SF. I would hope we are looking at forwards for the last two spots.

[Uriel]

Do we know this or is this just a guess?
It's an inference based on the available evidence.

[rogcl1]

I am all for signing him at this point with some kind of make good deal like a two way or a two year with a team option for year two but I think one needs to remember that he has already had multiple chances and is not an unknown entity.Four year college player and in 2024 he had a two way contract with both the 76rs and the Jazz and was waived by both teams before appearing in an NBA game. Maybe an extra light came on in Mexico City and summer league but who knows. He would have an instant cult like fan following if he was signed here. I am rooting for him but one must be realistic.

[Mr. Body]

I am all for signing him at this point with some kind of make good deal like a two way or a two year with a team option for year two but I think one needs to remember that he has already had multiple chances and is not an unknown entity.Four year college player and in 2024 he had a two way contract with both the 76rs and the Jazz and was waived by both teams before appearing in an NBA game. Maybe an extra light came on in Mexico City and summer league but who knows. He would have an instant cult like fan following if he was signed here. I am rooting for him but one must be realistic.

Jones-Garcia is a type like Bruce Bowen, who kicked around Europe before things started to come together and he had a great career. Obviously DJG is a completely different player in terms of style and things may not work for him, but sometimes it takes time. Danny Green, too.

[LittleCriminal]

Sign him and use him as trade bait before the season starts..

[rogcl1]

Jones-Garcia is a type like Bruce Bowen, who kicked around Europe before things started to come together and he had a great career. Obviously DJG is a completely different player in terms of style and things may not work for him, but sometimes it takes time. Danny Green, too.

I understand that is a distinct possibility. I do think we should sign him . The Spurs have invested in worse.

[Ariel]

Has a two-way offer on the table from the Spurs but is waiting to see if he can get more, perhaps elsewhere.
This would be my guess as well, he's done enough to warrant a 2 way deal at least, I'd even go as far as offering him a partially guaranteed contract for multiple years, something like Champagnie or Bassey got, he's a good flyer talent wise even if probably not the best fit right now. I'd say he probably gets that deal elsewhere.

[jjspur]

I understand that is a distinct possibility. I do think we should sign him . The Spurs have invested in worse.
i agree, we have invested in worse. We just shipped out two of them a few weeks ago. One has already been let go. How about signing DJG to a one or two year contract with a small amount guaranteed. Like you said we've done worse. I think he at least deserves a chance, if it doesn't work out we don't lose all that much.

[exstatic]

Sign him and use him as trade bait before the season starts..

Signed FAs can’t be traded until at least December.

[Bruno]

Signing Jones-Garcia to a Champagnie-like deal would make a lot of sense for Spurs. They have $3M left on the MLE to sign him and 2 open roster spots. It would be a low risk/high reward move.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/spurs/status/1947747127968321953

https://x.com/NBA/status/1947746522939961353

[spurraider21]

Signing Jones-Garcia to a Champagnie-like deal would make a lot of sense for Spurs. They have $3M left on the MLE to sign him and 2 open roster spots. It would be a low risk/high reward move.
realistically he's a 2-way talent but given that we are well past the FA frenzy and still have 2 regular roster spots left, may as well

then what to do for the final spot? dont tell me minix lol

[Kindergarten Cop]

Signing Jones-Garcia to a Champagnie-like deal would make a lot of sense for Spurs. They have $3M left on the MLE to sign him and 2 open roster spots. It would be a low risk/high reward move.

Not that we would (or would necessarily need to) offer, but the Spurs still hold the $5.1M BAE still, correct?

Just curious what we still have to work with. If that is the case, they can hold this and absorb a traded player into it before or during the season, right?

[Spurs Brazil]

Shams

David Jones-Garcia – All-Summer League first team breakout guard – has agreed on a two-way NBA contract with the San Antonio Spurs, agents Deirunas Visockas and Guillermo Bermejo of Gersh Sports tell ESPN. Jones-Garcia starred for the Spurs this month (22 PPG, 6 RPG, 53% on 3s).

[BatManu20]

There it is. Two-way deal.

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[spurraider21]

2-way :tu

[Splits]

surprised he didn't get a full roster spot from someone.

[LittleCriminal]

Signed FAs can’t be traded until at least December.

My bad... Sign him and use him as trade bait after December. Got it.

[Mugen]

congrats ace3g tbh

[spurraider21]

surprised he didn't get a full roster spot from someone.
i think most NBA decision makers arent blowing their loads over summer league stuff. we saw this a couple years ago with barlow too

[picnroll]

Good news, great addition.

[Splits]

i think most NBA decision makers arent blowing their loads over summer league stuff. we saw this a couple years ago with barlow too

was thinking more in context of giving up the $2.1m from Olympiakos and playing for $600k this year. (though it was unclear from reports if that was $2.1/per or over 3 years)

[exstatic]

Shams

David Jones-Garcia – All-Summer League first team breakout guard – has agreed on a two-way NBA contract with the San Antonio Spurs, agents Deirunas Visockas and Guillermo Bermejo of Gersh Sports tell ESPN. Jones-Garcia starred for the Spurs this month (22 PPG, 6 RPG, 53% on 3s).
For those who watched SL, is he good enough to run the Austin offense as the primary creator?

[Mnky]

For those who watched SL, is he good enough to run the Austin offense as the primary creator?

Yes he is. Which is why I thought he might be a little too much of what they already have to stay.

Thankfully, this Goat has an opportunity to play for the main squad. :lobt2:

[ChumpDumper]

For those who watched SL, is he good enough to run the Austin offense as the primary creator?

Meh, it will be an adventure if he and Nelson share those duties. Both are projects in that regard but not hopeless.

[RC_Drunkford]

surprised it's just a two-way, but glad we got him. We got great depth now and still 2 open roster spots.

[John B]

For those who watched SL, is he good enough to run the Austin offense as the primary creator?

For sure. Jameer played descent as the lead PG. But for sure DJG was pretty clutch basket getter. Why it took so long and while not getting a better offer, except playing for Olympiakos, I don’t know.

[ace3g]

For those who watched SL, is he good enough to run the Austin offense as the primary creator?

Yes, it was actually when he wasn't in the game when our offense struggled with the rotations we used in SL.

Minus the games when Harper played.

Also loved in the one game vs Hornets he struggled offensively, he still had good rebound numbers. Didn't check out in that regard.

[exstatic]

For sure. Jameer played descent as the lead PG. But for sure DJG was pretty clutch basket getter. Why it took so long and while not getting a better offer, except playing for Olympiakos, I don’t know.

NBA GMs are watching every dollar in the age of the second apron. You’ll see veterans wait until training camp to sign discount deals.

[cutewizard]

We
Are
Stacked

[cutewizard]

https://youtu.be/D0G5M66jhYg?si=uAGNVB6xgS70RlNa

[benefactor]

:tu

[Eaglenole2002]

Nice signing. Might just be a great G League guy, but there’s enough there to hope he can tighten his handle and improve his passing reads on drives and maybe stick as a guy who can handle the ball a bit as a deeper rotation guy. If not, he’ll need to focus on really scaling down his game and being an off-ball scorer/shooter who is a pest defensively and in the boards.

[Russ]

Two-way contract.

Pitch perfect.

[Cabrito]

He is like having a second round pick sign a two way. We didn’t want another rookie on the roster and he gives us an intriguing prospect that improved dramatically from last year to this year. Maybe he can make another jump next year.

[SpurSpike]

What the hell are we doing with the last 2 spots though? Slim pickings out there now. Makes me feel like a big trade for players is around the corner like a 2 for 1 kinda trade.

[Darkwaters]

Very nice.

You have to imagine that Riley Minix and probably Harrison Ingram sign the other 2-way contracts. Although both are much more flawed than DJG in my opinion.

[John B]

What the hell are we doing with the last 2 spots though? Slim pickings out there now. Makes me feel like a big trade for players is around the corner like a 2 for 1 kinda trade.

I like the last two-open spots for tweaking, from waivers and/or who can be had at trade deadline. Depends where Spurs are going into the playoffs if they need a bruiser big, or another defensive wing, or a caliber vet becomes available. It leaves them option

[ChumpDumper]

If they fill both, I kind of think Minix and Mensah get the last two roster spots with Osifo or Nelson getting the last two way.

Doesn't seem like the Spurs to poach from other teams.

If they go with more experienced players at the two regular slots, it might signal they are more serious about a playoff run.

[scott]

Congrats to SpursTalk for manifesting this, tbqh

[Mr. Body]

Good get on a two-way, tbh. He needs to work on off-ball and his passing and he could really stick.

[Biggems]

For those who watched SL, is he good enough to run the Austin offense as the primary creator?

He is more of a scoring PG than a passing PG. He did make some nice passes that didn't result in assists thanks to missed shots. He also forced some passes that turned into horrible turnovers.

When he is decisive, his game flows nicely. He doesn't turn it over much. However, early in the last few games he started a bit indecisive and got into trouble. He made poor passes. He dribbled into the crowded paint and had the ball stolen multiple times.

Playtime in Austin will allow him to hone his PG skills, improve his decision and play making.

This was a great move by the Spurs.

[benefactor]

Congrats to SpursTalk for manifesting this, tbqh
ace3g doesn't typically stick his neck out there with a full-blown thread and a prediction, but props to him for having the foresight to know when to do it

[Dejounte]

sorry to burst everyone’s bubble but this actually shows what the Spurs are likely to do with him

Being on a two way actually means he’ll barely play on the main squad lol

and it means he has a small chance of ever converting that two way to a regular contract

and if it does convert, it won’t be until a year or two from now

[SpursFan86]

sorry to burst everyone’s bubble but this actually shows what the Spurs are likely to do with him

Being on a two way actually means he’ll barely play on the main squad lol

and it means he has a small chance of ever converting that two way to a regular contract

and if it does convert, it won’t be until a year or two from now

I mean sure, it's sort of disappointing from the sense of it meaning the Spurs seemingly don't view him as worthy of a Champagnie-type deal or anything along those lines...but regardless, I'd rather him be on a two-way with us then some other team. I don't think he's some guaranteed legitimate NBA-caliber guy but he clearly showed enough in SL and deserves an opportunity to prove himself.

[exstatic]

I mean sure, it's sort of disappointing from the sense of it meaning the Spurs seemingly don't view him as worthy of a Champagnie-type deal or anything along those lines...but regardless, I'd rather him be on a two-way with us then some other team. I don't think he's some guaranteed legitimate NBA-caliber guy but he clearly showed enough in SL and deserves an opportunity to prove himself.

Champagne started as a two way, and got converted. Bassey started as a two way, and got converted. Both of them outlasted a pair of first round picks. You gotta earn it, though. 4 good games out of 5 in SL ain’t enough. You have to show the work ethic and NBA game.

[Ariel]

sorry to burst everyone’s bubble but this actually shows what the Spurs are likely to do with him

Being on a two way actually means he’ll barely play on the main squad lol

and it means he has a small chance of ever converting that two way to a regular contract

and if it does convert, it won’t be until a year or two from now
I don't think most are asking anything else, but it's a low risk move with some upside that is likely better than the alternatives in sight, so I'll take that.

[Chinook]

You never know what the roster looks like in two or three years. Ome, two or maybe all three of Fox, Castle and Harper could be gone. Folks are thinking too much about how he fits with the current squad. He'll probably get a bit of time unless there are major injuries. That's fine. They already have a vet for immediate depth.

[Obstructed_View]

For those who watched SL, is he good enough to run the Austin offense as the primary creator?
No. He tried to be a facilitator for at least one game. It was not good. He's a scorer. He should get spot minutes when the team needs offense and be hidden the rest of the time. Role playing scorer.

[jjspur]

Since DJG is signed to a two way, that leaves two roster spots for at least 1 or 2 more bigs. (Please spurs, no Bassey or Biyombo again)

[sfernald]

Well you guys wanted him and you got him! Enjoy it.

Hope it works out and he actually gets some time on the court. We could certainly use someone averaging greater than 50% from three lol.

[heyheymymy]

At least he's in the pipeline. I'm just glad he didn't go to another team. I think the point is he forces you to give him more with his play so it's perfect because he either earns it or Spurs cut ties at minimal risk.

[exstatic]

No. He tried to be a facilitator for at least one game. It was not good. He's a scorer. He should get spot minutes when the team needs offense and be hidden the rest of the time. Role playing scorer.

He’s going to be hidden most of the year in Austin.

[baseline bum]

Glad to have him signed but kind of surprised he wasn't able to get a guaranteed NBA deal anywhere.

[buttsR4rebounding]

was thinking more in context of giving up the $2.1m from Olympiakos and playing for $600k this year. (though it was unclear from reports if that was $2.1/per or over 3 years)

Even if it was over 3 years it was 2.2 million Euros tax free. That would equate to earning about $1.3 million per year in the US.

[ginobilized]

I love that DJG is betting on himself and wants a chance to play on the biggest stage. I hope it works out for him. He's not in it for the money, obviously.

[Mnky]

Since DJG is signed to a two way, that leaves two roster spots for at least 1 or 2 more bigs. (Please spurs, no Bassey or Biyombo again)

Why not? End of bench guys should be easy contracts to move that bring good vibes and hard work. They both fit that. Spurs hardly play real minutes to guys past the 10th spot. They have played their bench more the past few years more due to everyone being a teenager than anything tbh. They have a real roster for once in a long while. Couple stars are going to get plenty of minutes.

[exstatic]

Even if it was over 3 years it was 2.2 million Euros tax free. That would equate to earning about $1.3 million per year in the US.

OK, I keep seeing this, and it needs to be addressed. If you’re a US citizen working overseas, you still have to pay taxes to Uncle Sugar. If Greece had taxed him, that bill could be applied towards his US taxes, but you still gotta pay.

[jjspur]

Why not? End of bench guys should be easy contracts to move that bring good vibes and hard work. They both fit that. Spurs hardly play real minutes to guys past the 10th spot. They have played their bench more the past few years more due to everyone being a teenager than anything tbh. They have a real roster for once in a long while. Couple stars are going to get plenty of minutes.

End of bench guys are great to have. Like you said, they bring good vibes and hard work - just not these two end of bench guys. Bassey was injured a lot and Biyombo did what he could and provided great energy off the bench for an end of career guy. My guess is that they go with 2 more durable and younger guys. By the way - I would have loved to have Biyombo back - if he was 5 years younger.

[exstatic]

End of bench guys are great to have. Like you said, they bring good vibes and hard work - just not these two end of bench guys. Bassey was injured a lot and Biyombo did what he could and provided great energy off the bench for an end of career guy. My guess is that they go with 2 more durable and younger guys. By the way - I would have loved to have Biyombo back - if he was 5 years younger.

As a 3rd center, why does Biyambo have to be 28 instead of 33? He came in and did a great job,vacuuming up boards at a 23.4 DRB%.

[Obstructed_View]

He’s going to be hidden most of the year in Austin.

Possibly, but the Spurs need one guy to hit open jumpers. He can do that. If someone gets cute and thinks he needs to bring up the ball or play defense, I'd Rather have him in Austin.

[TD 21]

At least he's in the pipeline. I'm just glad he didn't go to another team. I think the point is he forces you to give him more with his play so it's perfect because he either earns it or Spurs cut ties at minimal risk.

Yeah, worst case scenario was they showed little to no interest in signing him because of fit, he goes elsewhere, becomes a rotation player within' a few years and they look like fools.

[Ice009]

You never know what the roster looks like in two or three years. Ome, two or maybe all three of Fox, Castle and Harper could be gone. Folks are thinking too much about how he fits with the current squad. He'll probably get a bit of time unless there are major injuries. That's fine. They already have a vet for immediate depth.

I don't get this. I understand anything could happen in 2, 3, 4 years, but I don't think anyone is looking at a scenario of Castle, Harper being gone, or even Fox at these early stages (maybe in 3+ years time), and if so, why do we need to look at how DJG fits with a squad a few years down the line? I don't think he's that big of a difference maker when comparing to Castle, Harper, Fox to be looking at how he fits down the line if any/all of them are gone. I don't even want to think about a scenario of any or all of them being gone. I want them to succeed with the Spurs.

[Bruno]

Not that we would (or would necessarily need to) offer, but the Spurs still hold the $5.1M BAE still, correct?

Just curious what we still have to work with. If that is the case, they can hold this and absorb a traded player into it before or during the season, right?

The issue with the BAE is that a team can't use it 2 years in a row.

If Spurs want to use it to sign/trade for a player, they have to think too at the 2026/27 season. Could they need the BAE next season? What will be their financial situation regarding the cap/tax/apron?

It's not like the MLE where it is: use it or it is wasted. Using the BAE could negatively impact the 2026/27 season and I guess Spurs won't use it on a marginal trade/FA.

[Splits]

OK, I keep seeing this, and it needs to be addressed. If you’re a US citizen working overseas, you still have to pay taxes to Uncle Sugar. If Greece had taxed him, that bill could be applied towards his US taxes, but you still gotta pay.

Ummm, DJG is not a US citizen

[Ice009]

The issue with the BAE is that a team can't use it 2 years in a row.

If Spurs want to use it to sign/trade for a player, they have to think too at the 2026/27 season. Could they need the BAE next season? What will be their financial situation regarding the cap/tax/apron?

It's not like the MLE where it is: use it or it is wasted. Using the BAE could negatively impact the 2026/27 season and I guess Spurs won't use it on a marginal trade/FA.

I think I've asked before, can't remember if it was answered, though. With the BAE, can you just keep deferring it if you don't use? For example, if they don't use it next year too, can it just be deferred to the next season.

As for using it this year, I definitely wouldn't use it on a marginal player. There's not really anyone left worth signing with it I don't think? They should keep it for next season IMO (unless someone really good is bought up during the season, maybe they could entice said player with it, but otherwise, I think they should keep it).

[spurraider21]

sorry to burst everyone’s bubble but this actually shows what the Spurs are likely to do with himBeing on a two way actually means he’ll barely play on the main squad loland it means he has a small chance of ever converting that two way to a regular contractand if it does convert, it won’t be until a year or two from nowno bubbles are being burst. this is the appopriate way to deal with somebody like DJG. he was a 4 year college player that wasnt seen as draftable. he spent last year in the gleague and was solid there, but shot 34% from 3... but again, wasnt really on the radar but managed to get onto a summer league team, then he was on fire for a handful of summer league games. what are you supposed to make of that, full time NBA rotation player? of course not. 2-way and him spending a lot of time in austin is exactly what you'd expect for somebody of this profile

[Bruno]

I think I've asked before, can't remember if it was answered, though. With the BAE, can you just keep deferring it if you don't use? For example, if they don't use it next year too, can it just be deferred to the next season.


You just can't use the BAE two years in a row. If Spurs don't use it in 26/27, they could use it in 27/28 provided they are in the right salary window (above the cap and bellow the first apron).

[jjspur]

As a 3rd center, why does Biyambo have to be 28 instead of 33? He came in and did a great job,vacuuming up boards at a 23.4 DRB%.

As we both said, he did a great job for the spurs. He was steady and ready when called upon - no question about it. Who knows, if one of our bigs gets injured, they may call him again for a temporary assignment, but at this point, even as a 15th guy, I think the spurs just want someone younger, hopefully with a somewhat similar skillset as Biyombo. I can see the spurs having Biyombo's phone number on speed dial - just in case. With injuries, you never know.

[ace3g]

https://x.com/spurs/status/1948111867408527673https://x.com/EtienneCatalan/status/1948112898418463196

[exstatic]

As we both said, he did a great job for the spurs. He was steady and ready when called upon - no question about it. Who knows, if one of our bigs gets injured, they may call him again for a temporary assignment, but at this point, even as a 15th guy, I think the spurs just want someone younger, hopefully with a somewhat similar skillset as Biyombo. I can see the spurs having Biyombo's phone number on speed dial - just in case. With injuries, you never know.

A third string spot won’t see much development time. If they have a young big in mind, a two way would be the way to go.

[Mr. Body]

This guy might not stick but for those requesting the Spurs find a diamond in the rough, this is how it's done.

[ambchang]

For an end of the bench or two way player, they should either be:
1) a young project
2) a seasoned vet the teach the young kids about professionalism
3) a practice player
4) some combination of the above.


Personally I think DJG is a practice player with hopes of becoming a project. Fingers crossed.

[Chinook]

I don't get this. I understand anything could happen in 2, 3, 4 years, but I don't think anyone is looking at a scenario of Castle, Harper being gone, or even Fox at these early stages (maybe in 3+ years time), and if so, why do we need to look at how DJG fits with a squad a few years down the line? I don't think he's that big of a difference maker when comparing to Castle, Harper, Fox to be looking at how he fits down the line if any/all of them are gone. I don't even want to think about a scenario of any or all of them being gone. I want them to succeed with the Spurs.

They don't have to fail to be off the team. The Spurs could decide to make a big trade as early as this season for someone like Giannis, and in the wake of that they'll need cheap guards in the system.

We don't have to think about any of this, but we shouldn't dismiss depth because the skill-set is "too similar" to other players. He's talent, and the team has him in the pipeline. That's never a bad thing, but it's definitely not when talking about a roster like the Spurs which is trying to transition into a competitive and then contending squad.

[Ice009]

They don't have to fail to be off the team. The Spurs could decide to make a big trade as early as this season for someone like Giannis, and in the wake of that they'll need cheap guards in the system.

We don't have to think about any of this, but we shouldn't dismiss depth because the skill-set is "too similar" to other players. He's talent, and the team has him in the pipeline. That's never a bad thing, but it's definitely not when talking about a roster like the Spurs which is trying to transition into a competitive and then contending squad.

Alright, fair enough. I guess I didn't think about an upgrade as I don't think there is hardly any players in the NBA that would be an upgrade if moving more than one of them for a single player, except, maybe someone like Giannis.

[ace3g]

DMin5mrxKez

[T Park]

A nothing? Does Phathead pays your bills or something?

thats all you got eh

[spurs10]

Glad he's in. I'm sure he will work hard to convert that two-way contact into a full NBA contract.