Why did we send Andry José Hernández Romero to CECOT?

[Winehole23]

~50 other completely innocent people who were in the US legally and had no criminal record were sent to CECOT in defiance of a court order.

Trump's dirty deal with Bukele is degrading both countries. This is a dastardly crime for which history will condemn Trump and the USA.



He wept and prayed as the guard shaved his head, calling for his mother and proclaiming his innocence. Just a few months earlier, Andry José Hernández Romero had applied for asylum, citing the conditions he faced as a gay man and political dissident in Venezuela (https://www.salon.com/topic/venezuela), a country that the U.S. government and its allies all deem to be an authoritarian, repressive threat to its own citizens. But now he was just a warm body to be paraded before the cameras — just content to be clicked or scrolled past on someone’s phone.

To his family, Andry was an actor, hair stylist and loving son, his dedication to mom and dad tattooed on his arms. To the Trump administration (https://www.salon.com/topic/trump-administration), he was an object that could be used in an ongoing, callous propaganda campaign, his brutalization serving as an advertisement for the president’s war on immigration. His very devotion to his family was used against him, his tattoos reinterpreted as evidence of loyalty to a gang, Tren de Aragua (https://www.salon.com/topic/tren_de_aragua), that does not use tattoos to signify membership.

The stated objective, per the Department of Homeland Security, is for the 32-year-old asylum-seeker to spend the rest of his life (https://www.axios.com/2025/04/09/kristi-noem-migrants-trump-ice-prison) behind bars in a fortress-prison, the Terrorism Confinement Center, or CECOT (https://www.salon.com/2025/03/21/no-place-for-migrants-advocates-fear-expelled-venezuelans-already-being-tortured-in-el-salvador/), where inmates packed in cages are subject to “beatings, severe deprivation, inadequate nutrition and psychological torture,” according to (https://abcnews.go.com/US/abrego-garcia-subjected-severe-mistreatment-cecot-lawyers/story?id=123432720) the only detainee ever known to have escaped its confines.

“He would tell me … that he’s going to help us and that he would make his dream come true to have his own salon,” Andry’s mother, Alexis Romero, said in a recent interview (https://www.democracynow.org/2025/6/27/andry_jose_hernandez_romero). “And they thwarted all of that. They stepped on him, ran him over, completely shut down his dream. Now what is my boy going to do?”

Melissa Shepard, legal services director at Immigrant Defenders Law Center, told Salon that her organization began representing Andry on a pro bono basis in December 2024. At the time he was being held at the Otay Mesa Detention Center, a privately-run prison along the U.S.-Mexico border. He had applied for asylum the right way — by scheduling an appointment and presenting himself at a port of entry — and yet was languishing behind bars. In March 2025, seemingly out of nowhere, it got so much worse.
https://www.salon.com/2025/07/16/trump-admin-disappeared-a-gay-stylist-for-propaganda-he-hasnt-been-heard-from-since/

https://www.cato.org/blog/50-venezuelans-imprisoned-el-salvador-came-us-legally-never-violated-immigration-law

[SnakeBoy]

in December 2024. At the time he was being held at the Otay Mesa Detention Center

Biden locked him up
Trump shipped him out

They have to go back

[ChumpDumper]

They have to go back

Why?

[koriwhat]

Buh bye!

[Spurs Homer]

Stephen Himmler Miller will one day be prosecuted fully and im sure he will cry like a little bitch...

[koriwhat]

Stephen Himmler Miller will one day be prosecuted fully and im sure he will cry like a little bitch...

About what exactly though? I'm seriously interested in the deets... Spill the tea!

[Winehole23]

Biden locked him up
Trump shipped him out

They have to go backhe's not from Salvador or CECOT

why does he have to go there?

that's not deportation, that's refoulement

[SnakeBoy]

Doesn't have to be deported to country of origin

I bet he's regretting those cool gangsta tats now

[Winehole23]

Doesn't have to be deported to country of origin

I bet he's regretting those cool gangsta tats nowRefoulement is a crime, and I hope you choke on your own tongue for what you just said

[SnakeBoy]

Say her name before you start your moral preening

[ChumpDumper]

Doesn't have to be deported to country of origin

Why not?

[ChumpDumper]

Say her name before you start your moral preening

Morals bad now?

[Winehole23]

Say her name before you start your moral preeningmy party didn't throw 50 completely innocent people into a central amercian torture gulag, possibly for life

[Winehole23]

the police station burning down?

during Trump's presidency, the initial fire was set by a Boogaloo Bois from Texas

but apparently he's only legally responsible for firing into the building 13 times

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/23/texas-boogaloo-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-man-boogaloo-movement-pleads-guilty-firing-police-station-floyd-rcna2499

[koriwhat]

my party didn't throw 50 completely innocent people into a central amercian torture gulag, possibly for life

What party would that be exactly considering you said you weren't a dem months back?

[ChumpDumper]

Your party did this.

[Winehole23]

What party would that be exactly considering you said you weren't a dem months back?not the one who did a dirty deal with Bukele

[Winehole23]

like I said in another thread, Trump 2.0 has radicalized me to the extent that I will probably -- for the first time ever -- volunteer for/join the Democratic Party

we've got to get these motherfuckers out of power, next year is the first best chance to do it

[koriwhat]

not the one who did a dirty deal with Bukele

Say it with your chest! :tu

[SnakeBoy]

like I said in another thread, Trump 2.0 has radicalized me to the extent that I will probably -- for the first time ever -- volunteer for/join the Democratic Party

we've got to get these motherfuckers out of power, next year is the first best chance to do it

Too late, you lost when you went ridin with Biden

[TSA]

like I said in another thread, Trump 2.0 has radicalized me to the extent that I will probably -- for the first time ever -- volunteer for/join the Democratic Party

we've got to get these motherfuckers out of power, next year is the first best chance to do it

You'd be great working their social media accounts as you obviously have tons of free time and can just continue spamming shit no one reads under the official banner of the Democratic Party :bobo

[ChumpDumper]

TSA still waiting for a new Q-drop he can spam the forum with. :bobo

[Winehole23]

Snake Boy again with no take

[koriwhat]

You'd be great working their social media accounts as you obviously have tons of free time and can just continue spamming shit no one reads under the official banner of the Democratic Party :bobo

You ain't wrong though.

[baseline bum]

like I said in another thread, Trump 2.0 has radicalized me to the extent that I will probably -- for the first time ever -- volunteer for/join the Democratic Party

we've got to get these motherfuckers out of power, next year is the first best chance to do it

You ain't getting those motherfuckers out of power at the ballot box. There is no constitution, there will be no fair elections. Even if there was the faggot democrats are only +2 on the generic ballot which means they'd get wiped out in the house and lose something like 12 seats if there actually was an election thanks to gerrymandering per Harry Enten.

[Winehole23]

You ain't getting those motherfuckers out of power at the ballot box. There is no constitution, there will be no fair elections. Even if there was the faggot democrats are only +2 on the generic ballot which means they'd get wiped out in the house and lose something like 12 seats if there actually was an election thanks to gerrymandering per Harry Enten.if Democrats start leading people instead of talking down to them and making deals with Republicans, the vibe could change

there's gonna be a hell of a fight

[Winehole23]

the US deal with Venezuela tends to prove the human trafficking hypothesis

Promise made: mass deportation - Page 110 (https://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304472&page=110&p=11276979&viewfull=1#post11276979)

[baseline bum]

if Democrats start leading people instead of talking down to them, the vibe could change

there's gonna be a hell of a fight

They're more scared of Mamdani than they are Trump

[Winehole23]

They're more scared of Mamdani than they are Trumpthey should be, Mamdani threatens their political machine

he just spanked Andrew Cuomo

[Winehole23]

Andry Jose Hernandez Romero is the man in the foreground of this pic

125 days in a torture gulag, so Donald Trump could use him as a bargaining chip for Americans jailed in Venezuela


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:64wqxwi66lsrjsy32ri77z7h/bafkreiasnhiqfkkcheoawi5llyso7xb2bjso63l55gdfjhg4l 76pr6rszy@jpeg

[Winehole23]

incriminating evidence


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:2vtbmhmrwzbqcfv4we4uxzzt/bafkreibdpmje5gwzyo4pt3wqc5sd6vhzi2ioko5nwbk4kbphe wwabpni2q@jpeg

[Winehole23]

Real Madrid tattoo and "picture of guy doing the rock 'n' roll hand sign" were the evidence of criminal participation


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:2vtbmhmrwzbqcfv4we4uxzzt/bafkreifyjaivdxchqaz4f3zdl6bawga6eysfop6cvaqxct7z4 fhft5tvke@jpeg

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:2vtbmhmrwzbqcfv4we4uxzzt/bafkreifncv2sfxob3h7ozdkoymku3wfpbknlroa6bric46v5y 7asbrzrim@jpeg

[Winehole23]

Pro footballer tortured by Maduro, fled to the US on the CBP One app, and was then sent due process free by Trump to Bukele's torture dungeon in Salvador while awaiting a final decision on his asylum petition

Now Trump just used him as a pawn to get Americans out of Venezuela and sent him back there

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:ixi67fy32yuwixnpwbvie7j5/bafkreiff7qu5bgyenig5yfp7iwyfxiqm4wh4leaqe5i7ecvma 4kaezf7bu@jpeg

[Winehole23]

rendering innocent people to a third-party gulag to pressure the home country

reveals depraved and truly satanic guile

[Winehole23]

Reportedly, Trump previously tried to peddle CECOT detainees to Nigeria


Nigeria’s foreign minister has delivered a pointed rebuke to the United States, rejecting what he described as mounting pressure from Washington to accept deported Venezuelan nationals — including some with criminal records — as part of a controversial third-country resettlement plan. Speaking during a nationally televised interview Thursday night, Foreign Minister Yusuf Tuggar said it would be “unfair” and “unrealistic” for Nigeria to absorb hundreds of Venezuelan deportees who have no ties to the West African country. He added that Nigeria, with a population exceeding 230 million, is already dealing with its own internal challenges.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/immigration/article310460770.html

[koriwhat]

No remorse whatsoever

[Winehole23]

No remorse whatsoeverflaunting your total lack of morals is vice signaling, right?

[koriwhat]

flaunting your total lack of morals is vice signaling, right?

You're stupid af! :tu

[Winehole23]

vice-signaling it is

[Winehole23]

One of the people Trump repatriated from Venezuela is a convicted triple-murderer


The United States has welcomed the release and surrender by the Venezuelan Chavista regime of a group of 10 Americans who landed last Friday in Texas, among them a triple murderer, Dahud Hanid Ortiz. The identity of this freed man has been confirmed to EL PAÍS through a source close to the Spanish secret services and another from the Venezuelan NGO Foro Penal, which is dedicated to the defense of political prisoners (https://english.elpais.com/international/2024-01-20/the-revolving-doors-of-venezuelan-prisons.html). This organization, a reference in the field of human rights in Venezuela, warned that among those being released was one who was not a political prisoner. This Tuesday, Foro Penal confirmed to this newspaper that it was referring to Ortiz.


At the time of publication, the U.S. State Department had not responded to a request from this newspaper for confirmation as to whether Ortiz has been transferred to a prison. Images published in the U.S. media show him last Friday, waving to the camera as he and the rest of the group left the Joint Base San Antonio military installation in Texas.



Born in Venezuela, Ortiz obtained U.S. citizenship and served in Iraq. He was sentenced in Venezuela in January 2024 to 30 years in prison for killing three people in Madrid in 2016. After committing the crime, he escaped to his home country, where he was arrested in 2018.
https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-07-22/perpetrator-of-triple-homicide-in-madrid-included-in-group-of-political-prisoners-repatriated-by-us-from-venezuela.html

[Winehole23]

what a sweet, spiritual guy

no vendetta expressed


“It fills me with so much peace, so much comfort, so much tranquility that I was never alone, from day one. There were many people who worried for me.”

—Andry José Hernandez Romero

[Winehole23]

first of many administrative claims filed

$1.3 million under the Federal Tort Claims Act

www.documentcloud.org/documents/26... (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26028644-cfce73-b6a83776d0414519997d45d06243f067/)

[Winehole23]

possibly related, the timing is interesting



Chevron (https://www.wsj.com/market-data/quotes/CVX) is regaining the ability to pump oil in Venezuela from the Trump administration, people familiar with the move said, in an abrupt reversal in the White House’s policy toward the socialist dictatorship.

Details of the agreement were still unclear, but it follows recent discussions involving President Trump (https://www.wsj.com/topics/person/donald-trump) and Secretary of State Marco Rubio and comes amid last week’s prisoner swap (https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/10-americans-released-from-venezuela-in-exchange-for-prisoners-in-el-salvador-064c660b?mod=article_inline) that released all 10 remaining Americans who were detained by the Venezuelan government, people familiar with the matter said.
https://www.wsj.com/world/americas/trump-administration-greenlights-chevron-to-resume-pumping-oil-in-venezuela-0353262b

[Winehole23]

case by case breakdown



We’ve compiled a first-of-its-kind, case-by-case accounting of 238 Venezuelan men who were held in El Salvador. To do so, ProPublica, The Texas Tribune (https://www.texastribune.org/) and a team of Venezuelan journalists from Alianza Rebelde Investiga (https://www.instagram.com/ari_movil?igsh=MWhscXkzbW5uYWphcg%3D%3D) (Rebel Alliance Investigates) and Cazadores de Fake News (https://www.cazadoresdefakenews.info/) (Fake News Hunters) spent the past four months reporting on the men’s lives and their backgrounds. We obtained government data that included whether they had been convicted of crimes in the U.S. or had pending charges. We found most were listed solely as having immigration violations. We also conducted interviews with relatives of more than 100 of the men; reviewed thousands of pages of court records from the U.S. and South America; and analyzed federal immigration court data. https://projects.propublica.org/venezuelan-immigrants-trump-deported-cecot/

[Winehole23]

the three CECOT prisoners who reported abuse and torture in this article had no criminal record


When asked whether the U.S. government would continue to send people to CECOT, Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin said in a statement, “whether it is CECOT, Alligator Alcatraz, Guantanamo Bay or another detention facility, these dangerous criminals will not be allowed to terrorize U.S. citizens.”https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/venezuelans-cecot-el-salvador-returned-abuse-rcna220924

[koriwhat]

the three CECOT prisoners who reported abuse and torture in this article had no criminal record

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/venezuelans-cecot-el-salvador-returned-abuse-rcna220924

They came over illegally, right? Sure, not criminals.... deport every illegal to cecot!

[Winehole23]

They came over illegally, right? Sure, not criminals.... deport every illegal to cecot!why?

what harm have they done you or anyone?

[Winehole23]

btw, there were 50 people sent to CECOT who had broken no immigration laws and had no criminal record

not criminals in any sense

[Winehole23]

not even adminstratively

apparently DHS/ICE were early adopters of snatching legally compliant asylees and calling them dangerous criminals indiscriminately

they're the easiest ones to catch, they come to scheduled appointments