"Papers, please"

[Winehole23]

The USA used to be a so-called free country, we never have done immigration enforcement like this in modern times, even though the law has been on the books a long time.

Seems SCOTUS has decided the USA is an elective monarchy, they're allowing Trump to trample the law and the people maliciously



This is basically what a [Brett] Kavanaugh Stop looks like: Cops roll up on brown person, demand papers, penalize them for not having them (https://bsky.app/profile/dceiver.bsky.social/post/3m33vaogq6s2x). This became the law of the land in that shadow docket decision.

https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/10/13/ice-fines-chicago-man-for-not-having-papers-on-him/

[Blake]

Why did we ever allow presidents to pick judges instead of the people.

Although I'm not sure how much difference it would make these days

[Winehole23]

it's a tri-partite sovereignty system, McConnell denying Garland a hearing in the Senate was contempt for democracy and fuckery of the highest order, underscored when McConnell pushed Trump's lame duck nominee through.

no principle but power

[SnakeBoy]

:lol

[Winehole23]

^^^airhead

[Winehole23]

none of these jokers will say a word about the politics

[Winehole23]

this is not the way a free society works


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5o6k7jvowuyaquloafzn3cfw/bafkreiahdv7jkpqekfy7q3evd5n6apllu6rag4xddi2j5yeqz jzrmphkja@jpeg

[Winehole23]

we all know, we all grew up in one

it's not pie in the sky

[Blake]

this is not the way a free society works


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:5o6k7jvowuyaquloafzn3cfw/bafkreiahdv7jkpqekfy7q3evd5n6apllu6rag4xddi2j5yeqz jzrmphkja@jpeg

Look at the obvious cartel members at that table

[DarrinS]

Obama deported 3.1M. I don't think this admin will get close to matching that, sadly.

[Blake]

Obama deported 3.1M. I don't think this admin will get close to matching that, sadly.

Keep upping your post count here, loser

[DarrinS]

Keep upping your post count here, loser

Keep cucking, cuck

[BadMotorscooter]

The USA used to be a so-called free country, we never have done immigration enforcement like this in modern times, even though the law has been on the books a long time.

Seems SCOTUS has decided the USA is an elective monarchy, they're allowing Trump to trample the law and the people maliciously


https://www.chicagotribune.com/2025/10/13/ice-fines-chicago-man-for-not-having-papers-on-him/


and your party didnt like the system and screamed for Biden to stack the court.....democrats dont like it when things dont go their way.

[Winehole23]

Obama deported 3.1M. I don't think this admin will get close to matching that, sadly.Even with 10x the money for ICE and a whole of government diversion of manpower, you don't think Trump can beat Obama -- interesting.

Obama didn't need so much exemplary cruelty and violence, nor did he make a habit of trampling US citizens' rights like Trump is doing.

All brown people in the US weren't at hazard like they are now. Nor did Obama deploy armed forces to demonize and harass political opponents -- pretending that Trump and Obama are somehow equivalent here is frankly dishonest. The mass revocation of humanitarian parole has no modern equivalent that I'm aware of, nor the vigorous prosecution of people with unresolved immigration claims who are following the law, merely for showing up at the courthouse.

Obama's immigration forces never needed to hide their faces and their badges from the people they purport to be protecting, why do they do it now?

[Winehole23]

and your party didnt like the system and screamed for Biden to stack the court.....democrats dont like it when things dont go their way.off topic

y'all won and are trashing the US Constitution right now, not sure where you get off telling off Dems

[Winehole23]

"you don't look like a Greeley"

Trump has made every brown person in the USA a second class citizen


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:2vtbmhmrwzbqcfv4we4uxzzt/bafkreiarrv4zs5mmdn75cg6zl4czkvoqhg7negicc6tlwu2gr jdxhamc3i@jpeg


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:4usmserhjqkvhldgedfjb3jw/bafkreighovod7y2ibbfzqfnxu2afzvk73t3yx5ztxpesj3cs5 3kehzhszm@jpeghttps://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/ice-tickets-chicago-man-legal-214700548.html

[Blake]

Keep cucking, cuck

Name calling and upping their post count is all these Trump tards can do

[Blake]

and your party didnt like the system and screamed for Biden to stack the court.....democrats dont like it when things dont go their way.

You like criminals to lead the nation. It's bizarre.

[Winehole23]

rando US citizen scooped up and detained for no reason



Despite repeatedly telling agents he was a U.S. citizen, the man said agents told him to "shut up and follow instructions."

The man noted that he had his birth certificate and identification in a backpack with him, but he was never allowed to show them.

“They didn’t want to see it,” he told Lemon. “They’re lying. They’re not checking IDs.”

At the Broadview facility, agents took the man's phone and backpack. He said he was placed in a room with more than 60 people sharing one toilet and one sink. He remained in the holding cell for over eight hours before being released.

“I never thought for one moment that what happened could’ve happened to me. I don’t fit what they’re looking for," the man said.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/they-re-not-checking-ids-black-man-kidnapped-by-ice-during-chicago-raid/ar-AA1OoBp9

[Winehole23]

ICE followed a US citizen home, detained her violently on her front yard, then release her without charges.

DHS later lied about the video, saying it was years old.


Placencia also criticized that his niece, being a U.S. citizen, was arrested for no apparent reason.

"The fact that they arrest you as a citizen and that you say it, and yet they keep you detained, is crazy," she said.

He said Evelyn was held inside a vehicle for a long time before being released, with no charges being filed against her.

https://www.univision.com/local/chicago-wgbo/video-viral-muestra-la-detencion-de-una-ciudadana-estadounidense-de-15-anos-al-noroeste-de-chicago

[Winehole23]

there is no present threat to public safety that justifies treating US citizens like this as a matter of course

[Winehole23]

what's with not giving names or the reason for detention?

don't US citizens deserve to know who is detaining them and why?

[Winehole23]

wildly unconstitutional

[Winehole23]

even when charges are laid, ICE often doesn't preserve evidence and documentation

[Winehole23]

clearly, the main threat to public safety in Chicago is the US government, not immigrants or protesters

[Winehole23]

whole neghborhoods in major US cities are hunkering down in fear not from crime or immigrants, but from violent immigration enforcement

[Winehole23]

Obviously, I don’t think we’ve ever seen a nationwide immigration enforcement effort like this. During the Obama administration, we did a large number of nationwide operations, but they’re very targeted. They’re the kind of work where you’re going after specific individuals, people that you knew had a criminal history. They were carefully selected. There was a lot of research and investigation done before you went out to make the actual arrest. These are much more akin to area sweeps, where they’re going out and just stopping people in the streets, or working in conjunction with other law enforcement as they execute traffic stops, or hitting a large number of apartments in a building where you suspect people are undocumented. We’ve never seen anything like this. I mean, the deployment of FBI agents and other law enforcement agents to supplement DHS efforts, the pulling of these border patrol agents into these urban cities. All of this is unprecedented. 


When you’re at ICE, of course you can run down to a Home Depot parking lot. Any administration could have done this: round the Home Depot parking lot, stop a bunch of day laborers and ID them. In car washes, in places where low-wage workers work, places like that. The reason that historically hasn’t been done, is you just don’t find criminals there. Once in a blue moon you find someone, and we see that the administration highlights when they get someone who has some criminal history. But by and large, your really serious criminal threats don’t do shifts at the local car wash for minimum wage. They’re out making their money, making a living as a criminal. 


And so ICE has always focused our operations on getting those individuals — that takes more time, though. You’re taking lists of people who are criminally convicted and you’re identifying them, and then once you identify them, you’re doing research on addresses, and then you’re building a dossier and sending a team out to get them. The Obama administration deported a large number of people, but generally, a very high percentage of them were people who either just crossed the border or people with a serious criminal history. 










Sandweg worked at the Department of Homeland Security for five years, spending four years as legal counsel. He capped off his DHS tenure with a one-year term leading the nation’s immigration enforcement agency from 2013-2014.https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2025/10/14/former-ice-director-q-a-00603916

[Winehole23]

Are we seeing a brand-new shift in ICE’s mission and directive?


I wouldn’t say it’s a shift, this has always been a key part of ICE’s mission. What’s different is who they’re targeting. Under Obama, under Biden and even to a certain extent, under the first Trump administration, there were priorities. The agents were told, “Focus first on the worst. Worst first. Get the worst bad guys off the street first, we’ll deal with everything else later.” Those rules are gone.


Where do we go from here? How do we de-escalate?


Look, the country needs to pass immigration reform. We revert back to ICE’s more traditional tactics of focusing on “the absolute worst first.” This is a difficult question that the country has struggled with. We have people in this country for 15, 20 years who have been out of status, and in that time they’ve had children, they’ve married U.S. citizens, they’ve integrated themselves, they’ve gone to church, made friends with people at work. They’ve just integrated themselves in society. 

[ChumpDumper]

Obama deported 3.1M. I don't think this admin will get close to matching that, sadly.

Why do you want to be disappeared by secret police?

[Blake]

Why do you want to be disappeared by secret police?

Lol he's pasty white. He thinks nothing will happen to him and this is funny.

[ChumpDumper]

Lol he's pasty white. He thinks nothing will happen to him and this is funny.

That's what the brownshirts thought tbh.