Minneapolis: US citizen shot in the face "three, four times" by ICE

[Winehole23]

why did DHS arrest witnesses?


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[velik_m]

How many people need to be executed before democrats start protesting? Walz and co still just begging them to please stop, like a good controlled opposition.

Americans are more passive and compliant than the Russians. USA is so fucked.

[Winehole23]

DHS functioning as intended, escalating violence and danger to Americans


Former ICE chief of staff Jason Hauser recently wrote (https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/voices/2026/01/13/ice-minnesota-immigration-enforcement-political-signaling/88146795007/) in USA Today: “When enforcement is driven by messaging instead of mission, when optics outweigh judgment and when leadership substitutes spectacle for strategy, the risk to officers, civilian and public safety increases exponentially.”https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2026/01/former-ice-workers-trump-violence-by-design-renee-good/

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

How many people need to be executed before democrats start protesting? Walz and co still just begging them to please stop, like a good controlled opposition.

Americans are more passive and compliant than the Russians. USA is so fucked.The people of Minnesota are doing their part. There was remarkable public mobilization in Chicago and LA too. Eyes on the street and whistles have blunted official oppression to no small degree.

Walz is probably afraid of triggering the Insurrection Act, but I don't see why other Dem politicians can't try to like, you know, do political things and use their power to stop a lawless and tyrannical regime.

[velik_m]

The people of Minnesota are doing their part. There was remarkable public mobilization in Chicago and LA too. Eyes on the street and whistles have blunted official oppression to no small degree.

Walz is probably afraid of triggering the Insurrection Act, but I don't see why other Dem politicians can't try to like, you know, do political things and use their power to stop a lawless and tyrannical regime.

Not a single major democrat politician is out there leading protests. That tells you all you need to know about so called "opposition". In Hungary, Serbia, anywhere really where protests are allowed... you always have politicians and opposition organizing and leading the protests. In USA the only issue the democrats have is them not being in charge. Trump's policies and methods are not a problem for them.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

asking local police to leave a crime scene, as one does


ICE attempted to order local police from the scene, but Chief Brian O'Hara refused, sources also told the Tribune. O'Hara instructed his officers to preserve the scene.

[Winehole23]

tentative evidence the victim was disarmed before being shot


The officer in the grey jacket enters the altercation unarmed, reaches over the man as others hold him down and then walks away with a pistol in his hand.

It appears that this officer managed to disarm the suspect prior to the first shots.

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https://bsky.app/profile/oalexanderdk.bsky.social/post/3md6pex47y22q

[Winehole23]

(DHS currently going apeshit on Minneapolis)

[Winehole23]

Not a single major democrat politician is out there leading protests. That tells you all you need to know about so called "opposition". In Hungary, Serbia, anywhere really where protests are allowed... you always have politicians and opposition organizing and leading the protests. In USA the only issue the democrats have is them not being in charge. Trump's policies and methods are not a problem for them.seems not

politicians organizing people is seldom done in the US, I think there's some status sensitivity there

the people will remember who stood up with them and who didn't

[GAustex]

How many people need to be executed before democrats start protesting? Walz and co still just begging them to please stop, like a good controlled opposition.

Americans are more passive and compliant than the Russians. USA is so fucked.

Get off the computer
Get out in the street
Burn something down
Or shoot a LEO
IT IS YOUR MORAL OBLIGATION TO KILL NAZIS

[Winehole23]

Minnesota hasn't taken the bait yet

[Winehole23]

GAustex just here to gargle the blood of other Americans and tease violence

[Winehole23]

passive voice not used


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[Winehole23]

Minneapolis Police Chief O'Hara: "Our demand today is for those federal agencies that are operating in our city to do so with the same discipline, humanity, and integrity that effective law enforcement in this country demands. We urge everyone to remain peaceful."

[Winehole23]

The Minneapolis Police Chief says of the shooting victim:

"Based on the information that we have, which is very limited, this is a 37-year-old white male who is a Minneapolis resident."

He adds: "We believe he is a lawful gun owner with a permit to carry."

[Winehole23]

phone in his right hand

this guy got murked for filming BPS


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[ChumpDumper]

Get off the computer
Get out in the street
Burn something down
Or shoot a LEO
IT IS YOUR MORAL OBLIGATION TO KILL NAZIS

I'll send this to DHS and the FBI for you.

[Winehole23]

“Everyone should be allowed to carry a gun for their safety but the government can murder you in the street if you have a gun” is an incredible endpoint for the conservative moment

[GAustex]

I'll send this to DHS and the FBI for you.

Loser

[ChumpDumper]

Loser
They're your words. I'm sure your ISP will cooperate with the authorities, who always treat people fairly.

[ChumpDumper]

“Everyone should be allowed to carry a gun for their safety but the government can murder you in the street if you have a gun” is an incredible endpoint for the conservative momentTSA's final backflip.

[Winehole23]

lol

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/jan/22/don-lemon-minnesota-protest-not-chargedthis is bonkers

a federal magistrate judge found there was no probable cause to arrest 5 members of the St Paul church protest

in reaction, the DOJ sealed the case files, asked for mandamus and declared the non-prosecution of Don Lemon a national emergency

GWB appointee, two-time clerk for Antonin Scalia Patrick J Schiltz replies below:


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https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca8.113669/gov.uscourts.ca8.113669.00805439054.0.pdf

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

The incident happened just after 9 a.m. in the city's Whittier neighborhood.


Stella Carlson said that before the shooting, the man was helping vehicle traffic get around the area where ICE agents and observers had started to gather.
“The gentleman I was standing next to was focused on helping people who were coming into Nicollet Avenue understand that they needed to take it slow and helping them get through. The ICE agents approached us, told us to back up, back up. I'm not even sure why we were helping them, if anything. And I got on the snow bank, and next thing I knew, they shot him,” Carlson said.
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/24/minneapolis-looking-into-possible-shooting-by-ice-agent

[Winehole23]

(Minnesota is an open carry state, in no way is it a crime for a citizen to carry a gun)

[Winehole23]

pushed him back, beat him up and shot him


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[Spurs Homer]

Pretty sure TSA and other cultists are waiting for the "officer was in fear for his life" defense!

How exciting for these nazi's to watch executions of us citizens in the streets - they are aroused beyond belief...


stupid ass walz needs to do this;

1) order his nat'l guard to remove the ice nazi's
2) counter-sue the nazi regime when they file their lawsuits -
3) delay delay delay in the courts until trump dies

that is it.

Every other democrat governor needs to do likewise.

[Winehole23]

Alex Pretti had already been disarmed when BPS shot him

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/24/us/minneapolis-shooting-federal-agents-video.html?unlocked_article_code=1.G1A.WPc2.-aMmFdjB9pKt&smid=url-share

[Blake]

Alex Pretti had already been disarmed when BPS shot him

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/24/us/minneapolis-shooting-federal-agents-video.html?unlocked_article_code=1.G1A.WPc2.-aMmFdjB9pKt&smid=url-share

Tsa: "BUT CAN A CELL PHONE BE USED AS A WEAPON? YES OR NO? ANSWER ME!!"

How will they spin the DHS lies on this one?

[Winehole23]

conclusory public statements without any investigation give that one away

the Trump administration will lie wall-to-wall

[Winehole23]

Pretti clearly did not brandish his gun. Which means the government is saying he was killed for legally exercising his right to carry.

It’s as clear-cut a violation of the Second Amendment as I can possibly imagine. And we’re about to see the bulk of the gun rights crowd defend his murder.https://bsky.app/profile/radleybalko.bsky.social/post/3md73ztizik2s

[Spurs Homer]

Tsa: "BUT CAN A CELL PHONE BE USED AS A WEAPON? YES OR NO? ANSWER ME!!"

How will they spin the DHS lies on this one?


”THE MOSSAD RIGGED CELL PHONES AND BLEW UP TERRORISTS!”

”DOMESTIC TERRORISM!”

[velik_m]

https://x.com/ryangrim/status/2015132217878384791

[Winehole23]

Tsa: "BUT CAN A CELL PHONE BE USED AS A WEAPON? YES OR NO? ANSWER ME!!"

How will they spin the DHS lies on this one?the announcement that DHS will be doing the investigation-- rather than say, DOJ or the FBI -- signals that the killing of Alex Pretti is being treated as an internal DHS administrative matter rather than a homicide

DHS will clear itself of wrongdoing and smear the victim again

[Winehole23]

https://x.com/ryangrim/status/2015132217878384791looks like Pretti was trying to help the lady BPS had just shoved to the ground when he got tackled and disarmed, then killed

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

took away his gun and shot him in the back


The agents appear to have him under their control, with his arms pinned near his head.


As the gun emerges from the melee, another agent aims his own firearm at Mr. Pretti’s back and appears to fire one shot at close range. He then appears to continue firing at Mr. Pretti, who collapses.


A third agent unholsters a weapon. Both agents appear to fire additional shots into Mr. Pretti as he lies motionless.
In total, at least 10 shots appear to have been fired within five seconds.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/01/24/us/minneapolis-shooting-federal-agents-video.html?unlocked_article_code=1.G1A.Qe3c.RiO401 qnb43g&smid=url-share

[Winehole23]

Alex Pretti did not approach BPS officers, it was the other way around

In this photo he is holding his cellphone in his right hand


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"An individual approached order Patrol officers with a 9mm semi-automatic gun. The officers attempted to disarm this individual, but the armed suspect reacted violently. This looks like a situation where an individual arrived to inflict maximum damage and kill law enforcement"

[Winehole23]

the extemporaneous barrage of lies from the Trump administration is a probable mistake

people will look at the footage all weekend and conclude they're full of it

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

(Gallego was a co-sponsor of the Laken Riley Act)

[Winehole23]

Pretti's gun was already six feet away when BPS started blasting


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[ChumpDumper]

ST Trumptards waiting to be told what to think.

Especially TSecondAmendment.

[Winehole23]

they're all still getting their story straight, as one does when telling coordinated lies

[Winehole23]

I expect them so say that mean words are causing the violence rather than the people beating, tear-gassing and killing other Americans

[ChumpDumper]

snacks and co. currently stalling

[Winehole23]

snacks and co. currently stallingpeople on their own side see the narrative slipping away from them


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[Winehole23]

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https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1qlzj87/i_think_that_this_is_the_clearest_video_of_the/ (https://www.reddit.com/r/Conservative/comments/1qlzj87/i_think_that_this_is_the_clearest_video_of_the/)

[Winehole23]

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[Blake]

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I'll be impressed when a republican finally has the balls to say enough is enough

[Winehole23]

declaration of an eyewitness a few feet away

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https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26505743-tinchersealedwitnessdec012426pdf/

[Winehole23]

I expect them so say that mean words are causing the violence rather than the people beating, tear-gassing and killing other AmericansTHE RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS IS ONLY FOR REPUBLICANS


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[Winehole23]

otoh

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[Winehole23]

yeah, this guy is a domestic terrorist

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:tu4d43ehkpc6mg2tlsyepptn/bafkreid6yzlra2se4qxfsnpaj25blrqcsdyhwouh7fymn4vtm 2fbrfcdjy@jpeg

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1705089127128711

[Winehole23]

second eyewitness


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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

8th Circuit Court of Appeals turns down DOJ appeal of rejected arrest warrants for Don Lemon

Two Trump appointed judges were on the three-judge panel




Magistrate Judge Douglas Micko said prosecutors had failed to present evidence to justify the arrests. Among the rejected arrest warrants were those for former CNN anchor Don Lemon and one of his producers, who had advance notice of the protest and were at the church as the events unfolded. Senior DOJ officials have specifically called out Lemon, a longtime antagonist of President Donald Trump, and argued that his role as a journalist would not shield him from criminal charges.

Micko did authorize arrest warrants for three people whom prosecutors described as leaders of the intrusion into the church, although he rejected one of the charges the Justice Department sought against those individuals, who were taken into custody earlier this week and then released.



In a series of previously unreported moves, the Trump administration rushed to demand that a federal judge overturn Micko’s refusal to charge the five others, then quickly escalated the fight to the 8th Circuit Court of Appeals after Minnesota’s chief district judge Patrick Schiltz declined to take immediate action, calling the gambit “unprecedented.” Federal prosecutors raced to the 8th Circuit (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca8.113669/gov.uscourts.ca8.113669.00805437897.1.pdf), asking the court to issue a rarely used “writ of mandamus” to force Schiltz to grant the government’s request.

Late Friday, a three-judge panel of the appeals court rejected the Trump administration’s demand (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.ca8.113669/gov.uscourts.ca8.113669.00805439026.2.pdf). The panel included Obama appointee Jane Kelly and two Trump appointees, Steven Grasz and Jonathan Kobes.


https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/24/doj-trump-minnesota-don-lemon-protest-00745589

[Winehole23]

thoughts and prayers for Yonivore, I know this must be a bitter loss for him

[ChumpDumper]

Black Homosexual remains free.

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

the truth is escaping containment, regime propaganda is failing to take purchase


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[Winehole23]

Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension and Hennepin County sue DHS, asserting the sovereign right to investigate crimes after Feds took exclusive custody of evidence from today's shooting

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230788/gov.uscourts.mnd.230788.1.0.pdf

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

The actions of federal authorities to date indicate Defendants will continue to withhold, destroy, alter, or conceal (or allowed to be withheld, destroyed, altered, or concealed) evidence, if not restrained from doing so."

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

nurses are pissed

https://www.nationalnursesunited.org/press/national-nurses-united-outraged-by-murder-of-va-registered-nurse-by-immigration-agents

[Winehole23]

former DHS comms director


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[Winehole23]

Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension and Hennepin County sue DHS, asserting the sovereign right to investigate crimes after Feds took exclusive custody of evidence from today's shooting

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230788/gov.uscourts.mnd.230788.1.0.pdfTRO granted

Trump-appointed judge orders preservation of evidence and a hearing on Monday

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230788/gov.uscourts.mnd.230788.10.0.pdf

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

(that a judge has to order the US government not to destroy or alter evidence in a homicide is more or less shocking)

[Blake]

the truth is escaping containment, regime propaganda is failing to take purchase


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Hey, finally a Republican showing what resembles a little bit of a backbone.

[Winehole23]

the flagrant lying could backfire this time


BARTIROMO: There is outrage across the country that there is another killing. Someone is dead at the hands of Border Patrol. What can you tell us?

KASH PATEL: You do not get to attack law enforcement officials in this country without any repercussions. We not messing around.

[Winehole23]

They are getting cooked on the talk shows today

Todd Blanche and JD Vance need to review the federalism unit from their US government class -- Minnesota is under no obligation to help the feds and not doing so is a completely legit form of resistance




WELKER: It appears Pretti was shot 10 times. He was pummeled & sprayed with gas. Why shouldn't every American be bothered by what they see?

BLANCHE: Every American should be bothered. But they should be bothered that ICE is going to arrest a criminal & they have 0 support from law enforcement

[Blake]

The forum Trump tards quietly waiting here for their alt right verbal commands on this to justify the murder.

[Winehole23]

I'm sure they all know what they're supposed to say by now

they sulk and withdraw when things aren't going their way

fair weather partisans -- a lot of them disappeared for four years after Biden won

[ChumpDumper]

The forum Trump tards quietly waiting here for their alt right verbal commands on this to justify the murder.

Seems they all went to Korea at once.

[Winehole23]

they know this is a huge L

[Winehole23]

nationwide sympathy demonstrations


Good afternoon from downtown Chicago, where despite heavy snowfall, thousands have gathered for an anti-ICE/CBP demonstration in solidarity with the Twin Cities. More are still streaming in.

Lt. Illinois Gov. Juliana Stratton just addressed the crowd, and called for ICE to be abolished.

[Winehole23]

Boise

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[Winehole23]

The forum Trump tards quietly waiting here for their alt right verbal commands on this to justify the murder.don't worry, they'll be back baying for the blood of liberals before long

[Winehole23]

the usual LE procedure is to assign involved officers to desk duty while investigating

not doing so sends a message


CBP chief Bovino has confirmed that the officers who executed Alex Pretti in the street yesterday are not only *not on administrative leave,* they have all been reassigned to other jurisdictions and are all on the street today.

[Winehole23]

editor of the Babylon Bee

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:we7sidyj3b5or2r7trtpfzt7/bafkreicupc5cnklar6a3mqqbtbrkguemyq2ei3e2f673h475p msjy235oe@jpeg

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

"if you say mean things about us, we'll kill you"

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fmedia.cnn.com%2Fapi%2Fv1%2Fimages %2Fstellar%2Fprod%2F10-251007-mh-politics-gregbovinointerview-10072025-145.jpg%3Fc%3Doriginal%26q%3Dw_632%2Cc_fill&f=1&nofb=1&ipt=a923deb77549ecbbe9f8e89d29de8d2dc2cd77634d07cf 40acf0a93978fea4ca



When politicians, community leaders, & some journalists engage in that heated rhetoric we keep talking about, when they make the choice to vilify law enforcement calling law enforcement 'Gestapo' or using the term 'kidnapping,' that is a choice & there are actions & consequences

[Winehole23]

WHISTLES ARE WMDs


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[Winehole23]

TERRORIST HANDWARMERS AND COFFEE



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[Winehole23]

WE ARE ELITE TERROR FIGHTERS BUT OUR OFFICE ISN'T OPEN ON THE WEEKEND

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:36eqtmzysqf7wsslczw4uxcd/bafkreiawto6n2eiejg2d5r5ybeachjdme32pmxkouyyt4meyt d3g5j46j4@jpeg
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[Winehole23]

by no definition are Native Americans immigrants or otherwise removable from the country

nor in principle are they detainable at all by immigration agencies, that's a treaty violation

but it just keeps happening for some reason


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[Blake]

editor of the Babylon Bee

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:we7sidyj3b5or2r7trtpfzt7/bafkreicupc5cnklar6a3mqqbtbrkguemyq2ei3e2f673h475p msjy235oe@jpeg

Is that guy for real or is that satire?

[Blake]

by no definition are Native Americans immigrants or otherwise removable from the country

nor in principle are they detainable at all by immigration agencies, that's a treaty violation

but it just keeps happening for some reason


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Good God what a huge cluster fuck of dangerous gun firing idiots.

[Blake]

WE ARE ELITE TERROR FIGHTERS BUT OUR OFFICE ISN'T OPEN ON THE WEEKEND

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:36eqtmzysqf7wsslczw4uxcd/bafkreiawto6n2eiejg2d5r5ybeachjdme32pmxkouyyt4meyt d3g5j46j4@jpeg
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TERRORISTS ONLY ATTACK OUR BRAVE ICE AGENTS DURING NORMAL BUSINESS HOURS MONDAY- FRIDAY 8A-5P.

[Winehole23]

Is that guy for real or is that satire?100% sincere

[Blake]

Gov Walz:

"Walz asks people to put aside political bias out of “basic human decency”.

This is an inflection point, America. If we cannot all agree that the smearing of an American citizen and besmirching everything they stood for and asking us not to believe what we saw, I don’t know what else to tell you....."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2026/jan/25/minneapolis-shooting-parents-of-alex-pretti-say-trump-officials-are-telling-sickening-lies

No we cannot all agree. All Trump does is smear while his bootlicks cheer.

[Blake]

100% sincere

Lol his "Christian compassion". What a piece of shit.

[Winehole23]

WSJ asks Trump et al to turn down the temperature and focus enforcement on real criminals

And interestingly, mentions Steven Miller by name


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[Winehole23]

If I had to guess, Trumplandia is mad more people haven't been killed and detained and jealous that the righteous outrage of their opponents has not (for the most part) been disparaged by the press and broadcast media

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[sickdsm]

Seems they all went to Korea at once.

I think they all left the forum for good bc of the cesspool it's become. Hell, even the quality left wing posters are gone. And if they weren't the forum is laggy/glitchy anyway.

It really is a shame that the guy that was killed wasn't completely legal with his gun. It would have been a huge 2A moment. Nice to see people using that right, not sure i'd be wanting to have that on me if i'm going to get involved with authorities though.

The mess going on is MSP is completely on the left. Crickets about the fraud, buying votes, etc. Goes to show what a mess of a candidate that the left paraded out with Biden/Harris if Walz was basically the third choice.

ICE focusing on MSP is directly tied the fraud that the Spurstalk forum was not concerned about. It's a tragedy that this is how it has turned out.

[Winehole23]

It really is a shame that the guy that was killed wasn't completely legal with his gun.how so?

[Winehole23]

It really is a shame that the guy that was killed wasn't completely legal with his gunhow not?

[ChumpDumper]

I think they all left the forum for good bc of the cesspool it's become. Hell, even the quality left wing posters are gone. And if they weren't the forum is laggy/glitchy anyway.

It really is a shame that the guy that was killed wasn't completely legal with his gun. It would have been a huge 2A moment. Nice to see people using that right, not sure i'd be wanting to have that on me if i'm going to get involved with authorities though.

The mess going on is MSP is completely on the left. Crickets about the fraud, buying votes, etc. Goes to show what a mess of a candidate that the left paraded out with Biden/Harris if Walz was basically the third choice.

ICE focusing on MSP is directly tied the fraud that the Spurstalk forum was not concerned about. It's a tragedy that this is how it has turned out.

Do you think it was a justified killing?

Yes or no.

[Blake]

Lol "wasn't completely legal with his gun"

Amazing the lies these tards try to still run with. They just can't Occam Razor this thing to be exactly what it is.

[Winehole23]

Bill Melugin of Fox is not sticking with the party line


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[Winehole23]

wheels coming off the car

Alex Pretti as a bad guy isn't very credible



A host of other congressional Republicans, including Rep. Michael McCaul of Texas and Sens. Thom Tillis (https://apnews.com/hub/thom-tillis) of North Carolina, Bill Cassidy (https://apnews.com/hub/bill-cassidy) of Louisiana, Susan Collins (https://apnews.com/hub/susan-collins) of Maine and Lisa Murkowski (https://apnews.com/hub/lisa-murkowski) of Alaska, pressed for more information. Their statements, in addition to concern expressed from several Republican governors, reflected a party struggling with how to respond to Saturday’s fatal shooting of Alex Pretti, a 37-year-old intensive care nurse at a VA hospital.https://apnews.com/article/minneapolis-immigration-republicans-trump-pretti-988f694e4e1187033551fd23afde4c02

[Winehole23]

I don't know enough about Korea to know whether this is a good comparison or not


This was just me making this comparison yesterday, but today the Korean news is calling Minnesota "America's Gwangju" and have human rights lawyers explaining how America is now living through the dictatorship Korea once had.



The Chun regime that my wife fought against in the 80s did the exact same thing. They needed a "crisis" that "only they could solve" to hoard more ill-gotten power, so they chose one city (Gwangju), declared its inhabitants enemies, sent trucks full of soldiers to violently attack and kill them.https://bsky.app/profile/ryanestrada.com/post/3md7qa72hos2c

[Winehole23]

hmm...


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[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:z6rujpf4u56jfie7aqic2nfg/bafkreiac4xul4eqzvivwdnlotmeyu2l3erqdodcnojmfe24f4 ce2dmkrze@jpeg

https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-says-administration-is-reviewing-everything-about-minneapolis-shooting-a501f48e

[Winehole23]

NY Post has knives out for Noem


An impartial investigation is warranted here — not the one-sided inquisition Tim Walz wants, but one the broad center of the nation can trust.

The alacritous and misleading rhetoric coming out of the administration needs to stop: Any reasonable person who has watched the videos clearly knows by now he was not “waving his gun around.” And while Pretti was horribly misguided, there is no evidence he was a “terrorist” intent on a “massacre” of law enforcement. DHS Secretary Kristi Noem should also take a break from her self-promoting and combative TV hits.
However noble the mission is to rid the country of the “worst of the worst,” the broad support for it is now ebbing fast.
Mr. President, the American people didn’t vote for these scenes and you can’t continue to order them to not believe their lying eyes.https://nypost.com/2026/01/25/opinion/what-trumps-next-move-needs-to-be-in-minneapolis/

[Winehole23]

It’s time to de-escalate in Minneapolis (https://nypost.com/2026/01/24/us-news/trump-blasts-minnesota-pols-for-inciting-insurrection-in-wake-of-shooting-where-are-the-local-police/), Mr. President.


Not because you’re wrong to enforce immigration law (https://nypost.com/2026/01/20/us-news/worst-of-the-worst-criminal-migrants-arrested-in-minnesota-trump/), nor to go after fraudsters who’ve stolen billions in federal funds — but because these enforcement tactics won’t turn the tide, instead they are backfiring.


Swing voters — Hispanics and independents who turned to you at the last election — see US citizens dying at federal agents’ hands, and recoil in horror.

[velik_m]

We should stop killing people, not because it's wrong - because it might lose us votes...

[Winehole23]

that the straight press is calling out official lies is newsworthy however the Post and WSJ try of weasel out and cajole

from the WSJ article



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[Blake]

I don't know enough about Korea to know whether this is a good comparison or not




https://bsky.app/profile/ryanestrada.com/post/3md7qa72hos2c

Let's ask tsa. He must be there now because he's not here.

[Winehole23]

Trump knows they've fucked up


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[Winehole23]

I think they all left the forum for good bc of the cesspool it's become. Hell, even the quality left wing posters are gone. And if they weren't the forum is laggy/glitchy anyway.

It really is a shame that the guy that was killed wasn't completely legal with his gun. It would have been a huge 2A moment. Nice to see people using that right, not sure i'd be wanting to have that on me if i'm going to get involved with authorities though.

The mess going on is MSP is completely on the left. Crickets about the fraud, buying votes, etc. Goes to show what a mess of a candidate that the left paraded out with Biden/Harris if Walz was basically the third choice.

ICE focusing on MSP is directly tied the fraud that the Spurstalk forum was not concerned about. It's a tragedy that this is how it has turned out.You got hazed on the fraud, Minnesota's rate of Medicare/Medicaid fraud is well below the national average. Maybe you're just a gullible racist too.


New federal data released by the U.S. Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services (CMS) shows the overall rate of improper payment in Minnesota’s Medicaid program is far below national averages.


In the review released this week, CMS found an error rate of slightly over 2.1%, compared to a national average of 6.1%. The data for the review was compiled before the Minnesota Department of Human Services began implementing new strategies to minimize the risk of fraud and harden its systems against bad actors. Reviewers at CMS checked billing statements and then compared them with medical records to ensure the billing was accurate.


“No amount of error or fraud is acceptable. Even one dollar is too much,” said Temporary Human Services Commissioner Shireen Gandhi. “We’re committed to making Minnesota a national model for preventing fraud and catching errors. This review shows we have strong internal controls that we continue to improve, and we are not stopping there as we accelerate our efforts to fight fraud.



https://content.govdelivery.com/acco...letins/405d8be (https://content.govdelivery.com/accounts/MNDHS/bulletins/405d8be)
https://mn.gov/dhs/assets/2025-medic...053-720555.pdf (https://mn.gov/dhs/assets/2025-medicaid-error-notification_tcm1053-720555.pdf)

As for Alex Pretti, it seems clear to the whole world today that it was a bad shoot. Take off the blinders.

Even your boomer buddies in Georgia could see it


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[Yonivore]

gunz bad now
No, not at all. Guns, combined with interfering with law enforcement and then resisting arrest, while armed with a gun - is a monumentally bad idea.


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Something else, in which I doubt Winehole is interested but, other might find telling - in this instance. If the image is of Pretti's handgun and if it's a Sig Sauer P320, it has an alleged issue of uncommanded (accidental) firing. It is one of the weapons I own and until Sig Sauer resolves the issue, I don't carry it. In fact, federal agencies have ceased carrying the firearm because of this potential flaw. Also, it appears Pretti's Sig has a few after-market modifications. Who knows what those modification may have caused. Anyway, that's what investigations are for, right Winehole?

Here's an article from last year.

Federal Agencies Reject SIG Sauer P320 Amid Growing Safety Concerns (https://www.thetrace.org/2025/07/sig-sauer-p320-pistol-safety-ice-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com)

DHS Is now investigating if an uncommanded discharge of Pretti's firearm is what might have initiated the use of deadly force. I'm not jumping to conclusions - like some in this forum.

[Winehole23]

DHS treating an own-homicide as an internal administrative matter and keeping the shooter on the street are most irregular

wouldn't the FBI and local authorities usually have jurisdiction over a shooting?

[Blake]

No, not at all. Guns, combined with interfering with law enforcement and then resisting arrest, while armed with a gun - is a monumentally bad idea.


Something else, in which I doubt Winehole is interested but, other might find telling - in this instance. If the image is of Pretti's handgun and if it's a Sig Sauer P320, it has an alleged issue of uncommanded (accidental) firing. It is one of the weapons I own and until Sig Sauer resolves the issue, I don't carry it. In fact, federal agencies have ceased carrying the firearm because of this potential flaw. Also, it appears Pretti's Sig has a few after-market modifications. Who knows what those modification may have caused. Anyway, that's what investigations are for, right Winehole?

Here's an article from last year.

Federal Agencies Reject SIG Sauer P320 Amid Growing Safety Concerns (https://www.thetrace.org/2025/07/sig-sauer-p320-pistol-safety-ice-ban/?utm_source=chatgpt.com)

DHS Is now investigating if an uncommanded discharge of Pretti's firearm is what might have initiated the use of deadly force. I'm not jumping to conclusions - like some in this forum.

You're trying to mentally gymnasticize the situation into something it's not.

And it's your Trump and your Vance and your Noem that quickly jumped to conclusions here. You're a fucking tool and a piece of shit.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao now yoni blames guns.

Amazing.

This is how we know he never had any principles to begin with.

[Winehole23]

the pic is AI clanker sh!t but the provenance probably impressed the recipients



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[Blake]

Lol at the NRA going HAM on the Trump administration comments on bringing guns to a protest.

[Blake]

Lol at the NRA going HAM on the Trump administration comments on bringing guns to a protest.

[Yonivore]

I couldn't agree with President Obama more:

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/2016146909245665336?s=20

Who caved in that phone call, Winehole?

https://x.com/SarahisCensored/status/2016012484209975617?s=20

Sending Homan in to replace Bovino isn't exactly an admission of defeat. Also, you've got DOJ on the ground in Minneapolis. Not sure things are going to get better for those in government there. Perhaps Walz was negotiating an escape from prosecution for himself.

https://x.com/nettermike/status/2015873061422301589?s=20

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2015971665906110549?s=20

Meanwhile, the ICE Watch cadre is organizing healing rooms on Signal to help deal with their feels...

https://x.com/camhigby/status/2015987691867763138?s=20

[Blake]

Yoni trying the "look over here" method like a good little bootlick.

[ChumpDumper]

yoni floods the zone with new conspiracy theories.

He's spiraling.

[ChumpDumper]

I just need to know why yoni and everyone yoni worships have to lie about literally everything.

2016164981281325153

https://x.com/RichardHanania/status/2016164981281325153

[ChumpDumper]

You know yoni decided to declare victory after Laura Ingraham and Bill O'Reilly told him to last night.

2016202136841826448

https://x.com/TheRickWilson/status/2016202136841826448

[Yonivore]

It just keeps getting better...

https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status/2015963135644205272?s=20

https://x.com/camhigby/status/2016050641144066150?s=20

[Yonivore]

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2016107668566687752?s=20

[Yonivore]

https://x.com/DC_Draino/status/2015935863008461296?s=20

[Yonivore]

https://x.com/WesternLensman/status/2015903119423529109?s=20

[ChumpDumper]

https://x.com/MarioNawfal/status/2016107668566687752?s=20
Any thoughts on why Dems are losing their minds now?

Because your secret police are murdering US citizens in the street.

Hope this helps.

My question for you is why do you lie about everything?

[Yonivore]

https://x.com/nettermike/status/2015997817542828472?s=20

[Yonivore]

More of Democrats being for it before they were against it.

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/2016141460018540756?s=20

[Blake]

yoni in spam mass coward pussy tweet mode. Flailing.

[ChumpDumper]

These are people in the country legally without criminal records who did nothing wrong. lil pussy yoni puts people on ignore to stay in his comfort bubble.

2015904110445219865

https://x.com/ReichlinMelnick/status/2015904110445219865

This is wrong. yoni will never address anything like this.

He's a fucking coward.

On an anonymous message board.

lol

[Yonivore]

https://x.com/dom_lucre/status/2015895202410504547?s=20

[ChumpDumper]

:lol another conspiracy theory

yoni is having a tough TACO Tuesday.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol another conspiracy theory

yoni is having a tough TACO Tuesday.

[ChumpDumper]

Here is the ST Trumptard mentality in a nutshell.

2016150993629536527

https://x.com/SonnyBunch/status/2016150993629536527

yoni is going through the several stages of grief right now, but he will always end up in a state of permanent denial because he is incapable of emotional or intellectual growth.

He's been that way for 20 years. They're still translating the documents.

[Blake]

Tsa grappling with his full on NRA love vs his Trump love. He may be in Korea for a while.

[TSA]

Tsa grappling with his full on NRA love vs his Trump love. He may be in Korea for a while.

:lol Rent
:lol Fucking
:lol Free


I'm not going to waste my time on a website that is down half the time and only has three active members, one of which I have on ignore and the other two (you and winehole) that run away like pussies and refuse to answer questions. The three member circle jerk echo chamber this forum has turned in to is absolutely pathetic. How much time do you spend per day trying and failing to load the site or log in? I'm not going to waste my time to finally log in and see you've abandoned another thread we were in because you got cornered and made an idiot out of yourself.

As for Pretti...FAFO

"What does it mean to call someone a protester. The term carries moral weight. It suggests expressive conduct, a public statement, and a basic commitment to nonviolence. It implies distance from force, from coercion, and from direct interference with lawful state action. When officials, media, and activists described Alex Pretti as a protester, they were not merely describing where he stood. They were making a claim about what he was doing, what he intended, and how his death should be understood.
The accumulating evidence no longer supports that description.

Based on what is now known, it is far more accurate to say that Alex Pretti functioned as an active participant in the ICE Watch insurgency in Minnesota. He was not a bystander. He was not merely present. He was trained, coordinated, armed, and operational. He provided actionable intelligence. He accepted assignments. He moved toward enforcement scenes in response to real time direction. And on the day of his death, he inserted himself physically into a confrontation with federal officers while carrying a loaded firearm and additional magazines, in violation of Minnesota law, after being warned by his own parents not to engage officers because of his anger.

To see this clearly, it helps to distinguish protest from direct action. Protest expresses opposition. Direct action seeks to obstruct. Protest communicates. Direct action intervenes. Protest attempts to persuade an audience. Direct action attempts to impose costs. ICE Watch was not organized around persuasion. It was organized around disruption. Its purpose was to locate, track, and interfere with immigration enforcement operations in real time.

Alex Pretti attended ICE Watch training. He participated in Signal groups used to coordinate these operations. He did not merely observe these channels. He contributed to them. He provided location updates. He responded to calls for support. He moved to spot ICE vehicles. He accepted assignments to go to enforcement scenes. That is not expressive dissent. That is operational participation.

On the day he was killed, Pretti did not stumble into a chaotic situation. He went to it. He went armed. According to the narrative being advanced, he carried a Sig Sauer P320 series 9mm pistol equipped with an optic and two additional 17 round magazines, a total of 51 possible rounds. Crucially, his mother has claimed that her son never carried his gun in day-to-day life despite having a permit and that he always carried his wallet and government issued ID. That means on this day he did two things he reportedly never did before: he carried his firearm and he did not carry his wallet or ID, a direct violation of Minnesota law which requires both to be on one’s person when carrying and to be disclosed to officers. These are not technical oversights. They matter precisely in volatile encounters with law enforcement and, in the frame being made here, signal that this was not ordinary protest behavior but a significant departure from his own patterns.

He took position in the roadway. He directed traffic. He refused lawful orders. He physically intervened when an officer pushed another activist. He resisted arrest. During the ensuing struggle, officers observed his holstered weapon. An 8 year CBP veteran, trained in firearms and nonlethal options, concluded that his life or the lives of fellow officers were in danger and fired.

State officials labeled the killing murder. But under Supreme Court precedent, the governing standard is not hindsight moralization. It is whether a reasonable officer in that moment could believe lethal force was necessary to prevent serious bodily harm or death. In such scenarios, the officer’s on scene judgment governs. On the facts as asserted, the shooting appears to have been lawful self defense.

At the time, critics dismissed this analysis as speculative. They insisted that Pretti was simply a protester caught in a tragic escalation. What we are learning now solidifies the earlier conclusions.
Just days before his death, Pretti spoke with his parents about repairs to his garage door. He mentioned giving a Latino worker a $100 tip amid immigration tensions in Minnesota. His mother, Susan Pretti, said he was troubled by the direction of the US, particularly the Trump administration’s rollback of environmental regulations. She described him as an outdoorsman who took his dog everywhere and who hated seeing land trashed. His father, Michael Pretti, said his son cared deeply about people and was upset by what he viewed as ICE kidnapping children and grabbing people off the street.

These statements matter, but not in the way often suggested. They show motivation, not restraint. They show moral intensity, not moderation. His parents acknowledged that he participated in protests and was concerned by immigration enforcement. More importantly, they warned him explicitly not to engage officers. They feared he was too angry to control himself. Two weeks before the incident, his father told him to protest but not engage and not do anything stupid. Pretti responded that he knew this.
He went anyway. He engaged anyway.

Now we have access to Alex Pretti’s final Signal messages. These messages, uncovered by the Oversight Project, radically undermine the protester narrative. They reveal an organized, disciplined communications environment designed to direct resources, track federal officers, and respond rapidly to enforcement activity.

https://x.com/ItsYourGov/status/2016156196667896260

The Signal chat was marked “LEAVE CHAT. DELETE CHAT.” Anti ICE activists in this group directed resources to the location where Pretti was ultimately shot. Users in the chat identified ICE vehicles, tracked their movements, and requested support at specific intersections and businesses. Within the chat, coordinators such as the user “Salacious B Crumb” spotted and directed resources to thwart ICE enforcement. ICE vehicles were identified by make, color, and license plate. Their movements were updated in real time. Calls went out for backup. Observers reported on agent actions. This was not spontaneous outrage. It was coordinated activity.

The Oversight Project identified a user named “Alvin Q” as Alex Pretti. In the chat, “Alvin Q” reported his movements, indicated proximity to enforcement locations, and volunteered to spot ICE vehicles. He stated he was moving west on 38th to observe and update. Fifteen minutes before the incident, “Alvin Q” indicated he was near the location of the shooting and was actively texting about ICE movements.
In the minutes leading up to the shooting, “Salacious B Crumb” directed others to the location with messages such as “BACKUP NEEDED.” One activist inside Glam Doll Donuts shared a video of the shop owners locking ICE out. One of the officers visible in that video, wearing a grey coat, appears to have been involved in the attempted arrest of Pretti.

At 9:02 AM CST, the Signal chat first mentioned possible shots fired. After that moment, the user “Alvin Q” did not reappear in the chat. His prior emoji usage suggested a medical role. Then silence.
These messages show something precise. They show real time tactical coordination. They show tasking, movement, and response. They show a system designed to interfere with law enforcement operations as they unfolded. That system did not treat participants as mere demonstrators. It treated them as assets.

To be clear, we are not asserting with absolute certainty that Alex Pretti was the user “Alvin Q.” But the convergence of alias usage, location data, timing, and behavior makes the identification plausible. More importantly, even setting aside the alias question, the structure and function of the Signal group demonstrates that ICE Watch was not a protest network. It was an operational network.

A protester holds a sign. An operative holds a position. A protester chants. An operative spots, reports, and moves. A protester hopes to be seen. An operative hopes to be effective.
Alex Pretti was effective. He showed up where he was directed. He inserted himself physically. He escalated. He did so while armed. He did so in defiance of his parents’ warnings. He did so in coordination with others engaged in the same pattern of behavior.
This does not require demonization. It requires clarity. Calling Pretti a protester is not charitable. It is misleading. It obscures the nature of the activity and the risks it creates, not only for officers, but for participants themselves.

When activists embed themselves into enforcement operations, when they track officers, when they intervene physically, when they resist arrest while armed, the moral and legal terrain changes. The situation becomes one of imminent risk, not expressive dissent. Officers do not have the luxury of parsing motives or reviewing Signal logs in real time. They respond to what they see, to what they reasonably perceive as a threat.

That is why Supreme Court doctrine centers on the officer’s judgment in the moment. It is why after the fact narratives that ignore operational context are so dangerous. They invite repetition.
The tragedy of Alex Pretti’s death lies not in a protest gone wrong, but in a system that encouraged escalation while denying its own nature. ICE Watch trained participants to insert themselves into volatile situations. It normalized confrontation. It rewarded presence. It framed law enforcement as abductors and kidnappers. It treated interference as virtue.

Pretti embraced that framework. He acted on it. And on that day, it led him into a fatal confrontation that his parents had explicitly warned him to avoid.
If there is to be accountability, it should begin with honesty. The evidence no longer supports the protester story. It supports a harder conclusion, that Alex Pretti was an active participant in a coordinated effort to obstruct federal law enforcement, and that his death occurred during that effort, not despite it.

Final Note.
Some readers, particularly strong supporters of the Second Amendment, have interpreted criticism of Alex Pretti carrying a pistol, additional magazines, and an optic as opposition to the right to bear arms. That interpretation is incorrect. I am strongly supportive of the right to keep and bear arms and of lawful carry wherever it is legal to do so. Nothing in this op-ed rejects that right.

Nor is this an argument about whether Minnesota’s requirement that a person carrying a firearm must also carry a permit and government issued ID is wise or unwise policy. The point here is contextual and factual. On the day in question, Alex Pretti broke that law, and he knew he was breaking it. That matters because intent matters.

It is not inherently wrong to carry a firearm to a protest. But where the record shows an intent to disrupt law enforcement operations, to physically engage officers, and to insert oneself into an enforcement scene, carrying a firearm dramatically raises the risk of lethal outcomes. That risk materialized here.

Every indictment of Pretti’s actions in this essay is contextual rather than ideological. They are not judgments about the Second Amendment. They are efforts to understand why Alex did what he did and what he intended to do. The evidence includes the firearm, a gun his mother says he never carried in ordinary life. The evidence also includes the deliberate absence of his permit and ID, items she says he always carried. Taken together, these facts point away from peaceful protest and toward intentional participation in an act of domestic terror. There was no protest there. There was an effort to interfere with law enforcement, and the presence of a firearm in that context is part of the factual record that must be confronted.

https://x.com/amuse/status/2016235753005514902

[Blake]

:lol text
:lol fucking
:lol wall

Tsa still can't think for himself. Never will. Go back to Korea.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol TSA's cope and seethe is walls of text and new conspiracy theories.

TSA lost.

Yoni lost.

Trump lost.

[ChumpDumper]

Seriously guys. The secret police attacked a woman for no reason and Pretti tried to help her up.

The secret police executed him for that and you say you'd do the same execution 100 times out of 100.

You're the fucking problem.

[Blake]

Seriously guys. The secret police attacked a woman for no reason and Pretti tried to help her up.

The secret police executed him for that and you say you'd do the same execution 100 times out of 100.

You're the fucking problem.

NO NO, HE HAD A GUN WHICH ALTHOUGH IS HIS 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHT UNLESS HE IS PARTICIPATING IN AN ACT OF TERROR WHICH IN THIS CASE OF TRYING TO HELP A WOMAN CLEARLY IS AND SHOULD BE SHOT MANY TIMES WHILE DISARMED AND ON THE GROUND.

(unless January 6, where it was a peaceful protest, weapons okay, pardons issued by our King)

[ChumpDumper]

If people like Pretti wanted to murder your secret police they would just buy a long gun and mow them down like you do in supermarkets with brown people.

[ChumpDumper]

lol "maximum damage"

pussies

[Winehole23]

53-47 is the current partisan split

67 is probably too tall a reach for conviction, but that any Republicans are on board with impeaching high government officials in their own party is newsworthy all by itself


Sens. Thom Tillis and Lisa Murkowski called for Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem to resign (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/democrats-grow-louder-calls-kristi-noem-resign-face-impeachment-rcna255844) Tuesday, making them the first Republicans in Congress (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress) to say she should step down.


Asked whether he had confidence in Noem, Tillis, R-N.C., told reporters on Capitol Hill: “No, not at all. I think she should go.”



Tillis, who is not running seeking another term in Congress (https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2026-election/gop-sen-thom-tillis-not-running-re-election-north-carolina-rcna215819), said some of Noem's actions reflected "amateurish assistant-manager-sort of thought processes," calling them "unacceptable" for someone in a Cabinet-level position.


"If I were in her position, I can't think of any point of pride over the last year," he said.


Murkowski, R-Alaska, whose term runs until January 2029, said Noem should not be running DHS.


“Yes, she should go,” Murkowski told NBC News.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/thom-tillis-lisa-murkowski-call-kristi-noem-resign-dhs-secretary-rcna256233

[Winehole23]

Miller named


The American Federation of Government Employees, the largest federal employee union, which also represented Alex Pretti, issued a statement Monday night calling for the resignations of DHS Secretary Kristi Noem and Deputy White House Chief of Staff Stephen Miller.https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/minneapolis-ice-shooting-live-updates-doj-investigating-apparent/

[Winehole23]

I was going to post this in the Trump declares war on Americans thread, because it is a perversion of justice to treat the open and unprovoked slaying of a US citizen by a government agency as an internal administrative matter for BPS, instead of having DOJ or the FBI -- in cooperation with local authorities -- investigate it first. A not even a civil rights investigation. Alex Pretti's civil rights weren't violated by his unprovoked slaying at the hands of the US government? Seems like it should at least be a question

They basically shot him in the back because seven guys couldn't manage to tackle him cleanly

Trump treating Democratic Party led states as conquered territory and oppressing them with the full regulatory and police power of the US government is kind of like the Reconstruction in reverse, the USA is being overhauled along neo-Confederate lines



President Donald Trump’s Justice Department has decided there will be no civil rights investigation of the fatal shooting of Alex Pretti. Instead, two units of the Department of Homeland Security will investigate their officers and the man they killed, according to three people briefed on the steps and internal records reviewed by MS NOW.


A Customs and Border Protection office will investigate whether its own officers followed agency policy in the shooting, according to the people. Another DHS unit, Homeland Security Investigations, will investigate whether Pretti broke any laws, according to two people familiar with the decision. That unit is part of Immigration and Customs Enforcement, and normally focuses on tracking down human-trafficking and narcotics rings and threats to national security.
https://www.ms.now/news/no-civil-rights-violation-probe-into-latest-mn-shooting-sources-tell-ms-now

[Yonivore]

Miller named

https://abcnews.go.com/US/live-updates/minneapolis-ice-shooting-live-updates-doj-investigating-apparent/

Oh no! A Leftist Union and a couple of RINOs are all up in their feelz.

Meanwhile...

Tim Walz is having to deal with his monster turning on him.

https://x.com/GuntherEagleman/status/2016235541100896488?s=20

[Yonivore]

Nothing like sipping a cold one while Walz's Nazis do their part eh, Winehole?

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2016002809200529478?s=20

[Yonivore]

Hey, Winehole, there's a GoFundMe for the idiot that picked up a flash/bang and mutilated her own hand.

https://x.com/Real_Ames/status/2016185654703489444?s=20

[Winehole23]

How gruesome

Did that delight you?

[Yonivore]

These keep dropping in my X feed:

https://x.com/DOGE__news/status/2016073698663661940?s=20

[Yonivore]

How gruesome
I imagine it was painful, too. But, the well-organized, and apparently well-funded, Signal Chat-based crew included medics. I'm sure you heard them being called for as she wobbled back toward the camera and started flopping around on the ground.


Did that delight you?
No.

I just did a search on GoFundMe's website and was unable to locate the campaign. Perhaps it was a hoax account or she pulled it after not getting any contributions.

[Winehole23]

Nothing like sipping a cold one while Walz's Nazis do their part eh, Winehole?

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2016002809200529478?s=20drinking on the job?

that what some ICE vets are saying about the new guys

[Yonivore]

drinking on the job?
I'm pretty sure they're off-duty.

[Yonivore]

Aaaaaaand, another one drops into my X feed.

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/2016231009264509219?s=20

Winehole, why do you think every one of these Democrats (and Bernie) have changed their tune on illegal immigration? I'd like to hear your opinion.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol yoni still trying.

You lost.

[Yonivore]

Okay, while not delighted, I am mildly amused...

http://ace.mu.nu/archives/doof-flashbang-ralphie.jpg

[ChumpDumper]

You're delighted your secret police are murdering US citizens in the street.

[Yonivore]

For your reading pleasure...

https://x.com/amuse/status/2015889079141883960?s=20


A puzzled reader might object that activists have long monitored police activity, that legal observers carry cameras, that communities organize to protect their neighbors. All true, in isolation. The question is not whether any single act is novel. The question is whether the aggregate pattern exhibits features that distinguish protest from organized obstruction. Research from counterinsurgency studies provides a useful vocabulary. Early stage insurgencies rarely announce themselves with bombs. They begin with infrastructure. They build command structures. They specialize roles. They develop intelligence capabilities. They seek to deny the state freedom of movement while remaining sub kinetic.

By that standard, Minnesota displays a striking resemblance to the organizational phase of an insurgency. Recruitment and cadre formation occur through ICE Watch training sessions organized at local schools, NGO facilities, and even HUD provided meeting spaces, converting civic infrastructure into intake and indoctrination nodes. Encrypted Signal networks, colloquially dubbed SignalGate, are divided by geography and capped at roughly 1,000 participants per zone. Membership is vetted through the use of voter rolls, with applicants screened to exclude anyone listed on Republican voter rolls. Chats are deleted on a daily rotation. Roles are assigned. Some participants act as spotters, scanning neighborhoods for federal vehicles. Others are plate checkers, logging make, model, color, location, and timestamp into a shared database known as MN ICE Plates. Dispatchers monitor the feed and direct mobile chasers to intercept targets. The reporting format mirrors SALUTE, size, activity, location, unit, time, equipment, a method taught in military intelligence.

This matters because intelligence collection is not expressive conduct. It is operational. When information is persistently gathered, verified, stored, and acted upon, it becomes a parallel intelligence system. In multiple instances, vehicles later confirmed not to belong to ICE were nonetheless tailed for hours after being flagged. That persistence reveals intent. The goal is not merely to warn neighbors. It is to degrade federal operations by denying surprise and freedom of movement.

The involvement of political officials further sharpens the picture. Leaked chats show participation or coordination by elected figures and senior staff. Minnesota Lt Gov Peggy Flanagan appears under aliases such as Flan Southside. City Council Member Aurin Chowdhury is linked to administrative roles. Former Walz adviser Amanda Koehler is identified as an organizer. Journalists affiliated with MPR and NPR appear in groups where federal locations and movements are discussed in real time. The line between observation and participation blurs when presence inside an operational channel confers access to intelligence and legitimacy to the network.

What happens next? Kurt Schlichter has some thoughts:

https://x.com/KurtSchlichter/status/2016230382698635305?s=20

[Winehole23]

a Patty Hearst reference

lol boomerz

[ChumpDumper]

:lolMaking up more shit.

All you need to do is stop your secret police from murdering US citizens in the street.

But that's all you really want.

[Winehole23]

the full police of the US government is being applied to Minnesota as if it were an occupied territory

US citizens with accents and brown skin are being targeted an are afraid to go outside

Not to work

Not to buy groceries

Not to take children to school

Not to take them to the doctor

Not to take them to the movies, or out to dinner









Trump's USA

[Winehole23]

converting nonwhite Americans to second-class status with a swiftness

[velik_m]

At least 20 ICE & CBP officials have been charged with sex crimes against children

...
“The off-duty Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) agent who killed Keith Porter, Jr. has a history of racism, child abuse, and explosive tempers. Despite murdering Porter in cold blood, Brian Palacios remains free without charge and employed by ICE,” the groups’ website states, invoking the name of Porter, a Black 43-year-old father of two who was fatally shot by an ICE officer on New Year’s Eve outside his apartment complex.

“In February 2025, Palacios was barred from having any contact with two of his girlfriend’s children, after they testified that he beat his own sons and frequently made homophobic and racist remarks.”

The members of the all-male list have been charged with offenses like gunpoint sexual assault; child sex trafficking; aggravated assault; robbery; rape; torture; kidnapping; sexual abuse of a minor; and possession and production of child sexual abuse materials.

...


https://www.lgbtqnation.com/2026/01/quick-hit-at-least-20-ice-cbp-officials-have-been-charged-with-crimes-against-children/

[TSA]

:lol text
:lol fucking
:lol wall

Tsa still can't think for himself. Never will. Go back to Korea.

“Go back to Korea” = “Stop pushing my shit in I was enjoying the uninterrupted circle jerk with wine and chump while you weren’t here to check my ass”

“Can’t think for himself”…I gave you the shortest version of thinking for myself I could. Pretti FAFO’d. You admit you don’t read past the first paragraph so I simplified it for you. I linked the rest to watch no one rebutt…which happened exactly as I thought it would. Seriously there is no point of this forum other then to come laugh at you three stroking off to battles won against posters that aren’t even active. The three of you are absolutely pathetic.

I don’t post here anymore because it’s a waste of time considering the lack of members here and the one’s that do remain are absolute fucking pussies that abandon threads once they’ve been called out and realize they don’t have a leg to stand on. THAT IS YOU. No ping in wasting my time here other than to drop in and laugh at you three.

You sure shut the fuck up about Trump’s economy when I asked you for some simple yes/no questions…you ready to do it again about Prestti and show your two buttbuddies what a pussy you are?

Let’s go Simple Blake


Was Prestti “protesting” when he was shot? Yes or no
Was Prestti involved with a physical altercation the week before with Feds? Yes or no
Was Prestti known to the Feds as having a violent encounter previously to being shot? Yes or no
Was Prestti involved with ICE watch? Yes or no
Was Prestti coordinating on Signal to track and disrupt Federal operations? Yes or no
Did Prestti’s parents tell him to not engage with Feds despite his anger against them? Yes or no
Did Prestti previously suffer a broken rib from engaging with Feds? Yes or no
Did Prestti’s parents say he never carried his CCW? Yes or no
Did Prestti carry his CCW while leaving behind his ID and permit? Yes or no
Did Prestti impede and obstruct a federal operation? Yes or no
Did Prestti disobey lawful commands from a federal officer? Yes or no
Did Pressti commit a federal offense against a Federal officer? Yes or no
Did Prestti fail to declare he was armed after disobeying lawful commands? Yes or no
Did Prestti resist arrest by Fedral officers? Yes or no
Was Peritti armed while resisting arrest by Federal officers? Yes or no
Did Federal officers see a holstered gun on Pretti while he was still resisting arrest? Yes or no

Here is the point where you try and weasel out of answering any of these yes/no questions by claiming they’re :cry loaded :cry

For once in your life Blake stop being an absolute pussy and answer the questions. Or dodge and be happy that’s the forum is dead and know that the only two people that saw your dodges were your jerkmates and that they won’t hold it against you.

Regardless…peace out cuck, this place is worthless, not sure why I briefly came back.

[ChumpDumper]

Answer meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

:lol

Not one Trumptard has said it's a justified killing.

[Yonivore]

a Patty Hearst reference

lol boomerz
History doesn't repeat but, it does rhyme. Most of the Old Guard Democrats are from the Patty Hearst era of politics. Hillary Clinton was an acolyte of Saul Alinsky; Barack Obama was feted in Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers' home and mentored by Communist Frank Marshall Davis. It may not matter to you but, those Boomers learned a few lessons.

[ChumpDumper]

yoni didn't learn shit

yoni repeatedly said W was going to go up on Mount Rushmore.

Idiot Republicans always need a daddy to worship.

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:nwnlnixtjh3qhkwpz2uy5uwv/bafkreigklwtzoj63srjgujs67uyvgabbo2rp52b6vjk7qsaax vpj6s44we@jpeg



When it was the Brady Bill that was the subject of a federal commandeering dispute, the right-wing view was firm: the federal government cannot force states to enforce federal laws

Now that the subject is immigration laws, heads have turned 180 degrees


https://tile.loc.gov/storage-services/service/ll/usrep/usrep521/usrep521898/usrep521898.pdf
https://bsky.app/profile/stevevladeck.bsky.social/post/3mdifmpxiqk2f

[Winehole23]

ah yes, Trump and President Stephen told her to call Alex Pretti a domestic terrorist

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/bafkreiazpxdh222vs7dde4jqip2cqlw45ti27xfmmh2yagkfr rfxlff6uy@jpeg

[Winehole23]

dangerous and inhumane detention in Texas, the East Montana Camp @ Ft. Bliss



The family of a Minnesota man who died at a Texas facility eight days after he was detained in Minneapolis is questioning the circumstances of his death and demanding a more thorough investigation.




Victor Manuel Diaz died Jan. 14 after being found unconscious in the Camp East Montana detention center in El Paso, Texas. Four days later, ICE announced the news, saying in a statement that his death was a “presumed suicide (https://www.ice.gov/news/releases/ice-reports-death-illegal-alien-custody-el-paso)," though the official cause of death remains under investigation.




Diaz, a 34-year-old father of two, is the third immigrant to die at the makeshift tent facility at Fort Bliss since it opened last August, and which has been plagued by reports of substandard conditions. His death prompted advocacy groups to demand the camp be closed (https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/aclu-renews-calls-for-closure-of-camp-east-montana-following-reports-that-detained-immigrant-was-choked-to-death-by-ice-officer) and is also fueling fear for the safety of other Minnesota detainees sent there in recent weeks.




The El Paso county medical examiner said the death of another detainee in early January at the camp will likely be classified as a homicide after witnesses saw him being choked to death by guards, according to the Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2026/01/15/ice-detention-death-homicide/?pwapi_token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9. eyJyZWFzb24iOiJnaWZ0IiwibmJmIjoxNzY4NDUzMjAwLCJpc3 MiOiJzdWJzY3JpcHRpb25zIiwiZXhwIjoxNzY5ODM1NTk5LCJp YXQiOjE3Njg0NTMyMDAsImp0aSI6ImQwNTIzYTU3LWY3NTEtND RiNS1hNWY4LWNhZTBjMTdkOTY1YyIsInVybCI6Imh0dHBzOi8v d3d3Lndhc2hpbmd0b25wb3N0LmNvbS9pbW1pZ3JhdGlvbi8yMD I2LzAxLzE1L2ljZS1kZXRlbnRpb24tZGVhdGgtaG9taWNpZGUv In0.YMRZmPE2kLUzpyZTCUvzN8vIiPIyBSfnL4HLdKiGGXc), despite federal officials saying the detainee died after attempting to take his own life.


https://www.startribune.com/death-of-man-at-texas-detention-facility-raises-fears-for-others-taken-there-from-minnesota/601567365?utm_source=gift

[Winehole23]

Six violent interactions with the public, DHS lied about all of them

In this one, DHS taunted and cursed at the victim, rammed her car and shot her five times, then the shooter drove himself and the evidence out of state

DHS called Marimar Martinez a domestic terrorist, but DOJ ended up dropping all charges against her.

Martinez is fighting to unseal the case file so the whole world can see what DHS did






GOVERNMENT DROPS CASE AGAINST U.S. CITIZEN SHOT BY BORDER AGENT
On October 4, Homeland Security said that several drivers “rammed” law enforcement officers in Broadview, a Chicago suburb where an immigration detention center has been the site of clashes between protesters and immigration agents.


DHS said one of the drivers, a woman, was “armed with a semi-automatic weapon” and that law enforcement was “forced to deploy their weapons and fired defensive shots at an armed U.S. citizen.”


The woman, U.S. citizen Marimar Martinez, was shot by an agent five times. She survived and was indicted on charges of impeding a federal officer with a deadly weapon.


The officer later boasted of his marksmanship in text messages shared in court.


Martinez's lawyer, Christopher Parente, told the court that
footage from one of the agents' bodycams (https://www.reuters.com/world/us/bodycam-footage-conflicts-with-dhs-account-chicago-womans-shooting-by-border-2025-10-08/) contradicted the DHS account. Martinez, 30, said that one of the agents actually rammed her vehicle with his.


Parente told Reuters Martinez left her gun in her purse on the passenger seat and never brandished it. DHS was wrong about the location of the incident – it occurred in the Chicago neighborhood of Brighton Park, not Broadview.


On November 20, government prosecutors asked the court to dismiss the case (https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/federal-prosecutors-ask-court-drop-indictment-woman-shot-during-deportation-2025-11-20/) against Martinez, saying it was “reviewing new facts and information” from the months-long operation.


DHS referred any questions about federal charges to the Justice Department, which did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/evidence-contradicts-trump-immigration-officials-accounts-violent-encounters-2026-01-27/

[Winehole23]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:7gfdylyjlkyk54clsyedgtej/bafkreibeteq6secuwu64r7vcs5jfdeorbqmt4bo6tzjvydv7q mzxggvs24@jpeghttps://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/01/the-neighbors-defending-minnesota-from-ice/685769/

[Winehole23]

Stephen Miller is a lying sh!tbird




Miller, an architect of President Donald Trump’s hardline immigration enforcement campaign, said Tuesday that his initial remarks, which included labeling Pretti as a “terrorist,” were based on information from DHS. He also said the agency may not have been following White House instructions with its overall handling of the enforcement operation in Minnesota.


In a statement, Miller said that the White House told DHS to use the extra personnel sent to the state from Customs and Border Protection to keep protesters away from fugitive apprehension operations — suggesting the confrontation that led to Pretti’s death violated those instructions.










“We are evaluating why the CBP team may not have been following that protocol,” he said.
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/27/stephen-miller-cbp-alex-pretti-00751583

[velik_m]

Ecuador says ICE agent tried to enter consulate in Minneapolis

...
The statement carried a headline referring to the incident as an "attempted incursion into the Ecuadorean Consulate in Minneapolis by ICE agents."

It said the consulate staff members' actions to prevent ICE entry ensured the protection of Ecuadorean nationals who were in the building at the time.

The incident occurred during a mass deportation operation being conducted by some 3,000 heavily armed agents of ICE and the U.S. Border Patrol deployed to Minnesota under orders of President Donald Trump several weeks ago.

Neither the State Department nor the Department of Homeland Security, which oversees ICE and the Border Patrol, immediately responded to requests from Reuters for comment.
Ecuador's Foreign Ministry provided few other details. But eyewitnesses working in retail shops near the consulate said they saw immigration agents try to enter the building.
...



https://www.reuters.com/world/americas/ecuador-says-ice-agent-tried-enter-consulate-minneapolis-2026-01-28/

[Winehole23]

was Alex Pretti on an enforcement target list because DHS previously broke his rib?


CNN is reporting that federal authorities may have been collecting information and "documenting details" about Alex Pretti before killing him on Saturday, and that officers tackled him a week earlier. www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/u... (https://www.cnn.com/2026/01/27/us/alex-pretti-protesters-minneapolis-invs)

[Winehole23]

Stephen Miller is a lying sh!tbird

https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/27/stephen-miller-cbp-alex-pretti-00751583

[/LEFT]
[/CENTER]

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[Yonivore]

Why is the Left fighting so hard to keep illegals in their Blue States? The non-partisan American Redistricting Project may have the answer. If they fail, the Left may be out of federal politics for a couple of generations, at least.

https://x.com/AmerRedistrict/status/2016168778816471130?s=20

That represents a 22 seat and a 22 electoral vote Swing in the next Presidential election and it's only 2025. By 2028, if you include the increasing migration of legal citizens from Blue states to Red states, this is not a very promising picture for Democrats.

I imagine this was the strategy behind throwing open the borders, during the Biden administration and I can think of no other reason the Left would fight so hard to keep illegal alien rapists, murderers, and traffickers safe in sanctuary cities.

https://x.com/EarthoOS/status/2016231048166711523?s=20

[Yonivore]

was Alex Pretti on an enforcement target list because DHS previously broke his rib?
No. Alex Pretti was a repeat offender and member of the Signal group that has been organized to track and harass ICE.

https://x.com/officer_Lew/status/2016220833870426602?s=20

[Winehole23]

it's not a crime to observe and record public servants, Yoni

ergo, people who do it aren't "offenders"

[Blake]

ah yes, Trump and President Stephen told her to call Alex Pretti a domestic terrorist

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:4llrhdclvdlmmynkwsmg5tdc/bafkreiazpxdh222vs7dde4jqip2cqlw45ti27xfmmh2yagkfr rfxlff6uy@jpeg

Rofl the finger pointing. I hope they all get what they fucking deserve for needlessly killing US citizens.

[Blake]

“Go back to Korea” = “Stop pushing my shit in I was enjoying the uninterrupted circle jerk with wine and chump while you weren’t here to check my ass”

“Can’t think for himself”…I gave you the shortest version of thinking for myself I could. Pretti FAFO’d. You admit you don’t read past the first paragraph so I simplified it for you. I linked the rest to watch no one rebutt…which happened exactly as I thought it would. Seriously there is no point of this forum other then to come laugh at you three stroking off to battles won against posters that aren’t even active. The three of you are absolutely pathetic.

I don’t post here anymore because it’s a waste of time considering the lack of members here and the one’s that do remain are absolute fucking pussies that abandon threads once they’ve been called out and realize they don’t have a leg to stand on. THAT IS YOU. No ping in wasting my time here other than to drop in and laugh at you three.

You sure shut the fuck up about Trump’s economy when I asked you for some simple yes/no questions…you ready to do it again about Prestti and show your two buttbuddies what a pussy you are?

Let’s go Simple Blake


Was Prestti “protesting” when he was shot? Yes or no
Was Prestti involved with a physical altercation the week before with Feds? Yes or no
Was Prestti known to the Feds as having a violent encounter previously to being shot? Yes or no
Was Prestti involved with ICE watch? Yes or no
Was Prestti coordinating on Signal to track and disrupt Federal operations? Yes or no
Did Prestti’s parents tell him to not engage with Feds despite his anger against them? Yes or no
Did Prestti previously suffer a broken rib from engaging with Feds? Yes or no
Did Prestti’s parents say he never carried his CCW? Yes or no
Did Prestti carry his CCW while leaving behind his ID and permit? Yes or no
Did Prestti impede and obstruct a federal operation? Yes or no
Did Prestti disobey lawful commands from a federal officer? Yes or no
Did Pressti commit a federal offense against a Federal officer? Yes or no
Did Prestti fail to declare he was armed after disobeying lawful commands? Yes or no
Did Prestti resist arrest by Fedral officers? Yes or no
Was Peritti armed while resisting arrest by Federal officers? Yes or no
Did Federal officers see a holstered gun on Pretti while he was still resisting arrest? Yes or no

Here is the point where you try and weasel out of answering any of these yes/no questions by claiming they’re :cry loaded :cry

For once in your life Blake stop being an absolute pussy and answer the questions. Or dodge and be happy that’s the forum is dead and know that the only two people that saw your dodges were your jerkmates and that they won’t hold it against you.

Regardless…peace out cuck, this place is worthless, not sure why I briefly came back.

What a bunch of shit. The guy was disarmed, on the ground and they executed him. Only tards like you try to spin it any other way.

Here is the point where you pretend you're leaving but can't help yourself and will respond in true angry Trump tard fashion.

[Winehole23]

Judge Shilltz calls off the contempt hearing but puts ICE on notice

"ICE is not a law unto itself"



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[Winehole23]

Judge Schiltz calls off contempt hearings (ICE released the prisoner, conforming narrowly with his order) but puts ICE on notice

His court ihas so far dentified 96 orders in 74 cases that ICE has violated

"ICE is not a law unto itself"

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:euynv325eix7glyek377orak/bafkreihb6liqw7b2ln3s425mf7bip2fbxm66w5jzv7wkuz42g wlncd4ugq@jpeg

[Winehole23]

History doesn't repeat but, it does rhyme. Most of the Old Guard Democrats are from the Patty Hearst era of politics. Hillary Clinton was an acolyte of Saul Alinsky; Barack Obama was feted in Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers' home and mentored by Communist Frank Marshall Davis. It may not matter to you but, those Boomers learned a few lessons.Republican conspiracy Mad Libs

You're stuck in a rut

[SnakeBoy]

Pocahantos always delivers

2016694208665702872

[ChumpDumper]

Pocahantos always delivers

2016694208665702872

Did he deserve to be executed in the street, snacks?

Yes or no.

[SnakeBoy]

Did he deserve to be executed in the street, snacks?

Yes or no.

He got himself shot, deserves got nothing to do with it

[ChumpDumper]

He got himself shot, deserves got nothing to do with it
Sure it does.

I'm simply asking your personal opinion.

Did he deserve to be executed in the street for his actions, snacks?

Yes or no.

[Blake]

He got himself shot, deserves got nothing to do with it

:lol you guys act like he wandered into a bear cage at the zoo and should have known better than to poke the bear.

[Yonivore]

Republican conspiracy Mad Libs

You're stuck in a rut
This whole Signal Chat organization reeks of Color Revolution. Foreign money and influence, State government involvement, and rubes that are willing to put themselves in harms way to protect criminals and fraudsters.

It's no coincidence this "protest" gained a violent flavor on the day Tim Walz crimes were revealed in committee. It's also no coincidence that ICE operations are experiencing the most violent resistance in Minnesota when, in fact, similar operations are taking place in many other places in the United States.

[Blake]

This whole Signal Chat organization reeks of Color Revolution. Foreign money and influence, State government involvement, and rubes that are willing to put themselves in harms way to protect criminals and fraudsters.

It's no coincidence this "protest" gained a violent flavor on the day Tim Walz crimes were revealed in committee. It's also no coincidence that ICE operations are experiencing the most violent resistance in Minnesota when, in fact, similar operations are taking place in many other places in the United States.

You voted for a felon and cheered on for January 6. You're a bootlick.

[ChumpDumper]

This whole Signal Chat organization reeks of Color Revolution. Foreign money and influence, State government involvement, and rubes that are willing to put themselves in harms way to protect criminals and fraudsters.
It's very obvious you can't recognize a grass roots organization because you can only take orders from above. Your orders are to spread conspiracy theories.


It's no coincidence this "protest" gained a violent flavor on the day Tim Walz crimes were revealed in committee. It's also no coincidence that ICE operations are experiencing the most violent resistance in Minnesota when, in fact, similar operations are taking place in many other places in the United States.It gained a violent flavor when the secret police murdered US citizens in the street.

If Walz committed crimes, why hasn't he been arrested?

Why do you want secret police?

[koriwhat]

:lol you guys act like he wandered into a bear cage at the zoo and should have known better than to poke the bear.

Do you go around harassing law enforcement and kicking their vehicles? Pretti was a worthless sub-human scumbag.

[koriwhat]

You voted for a felon and cheered on for January 6. You're a bootlick.

You're in for a rude awakening when your bubble finally bursts.

[Spurs Homer]

If only someone could have warned people that trump was no different than hitler…

because that would have been accurate and every sane person would have disassociated and stopped supporting hitler-lite…

unless they actually had no problem with hitler…

but what kind of broken people would have cheered for hitler?

oh…oh yeah..no..wait!

[Winehole23]

It's no coincidence this "protest" gained a violent flavor on the day Tim Walz crimes were revealed in committee. It's also no coincidence that ICE operations are experiencing the most violent resistance in Minnesota when, in fact, similar operations are taking place in many other places in the United States.I wonder if it's realistic to compare the federal occupations of LA, Chicago and Minneapolis to other operations.

The more reckless and violent DHS is, the more resistance they get.

I would disagree that the resistance so far has been characterized by violent tactics, very nearly the opposite appears to be true -- the tactics are overwhelmingly non-violent.

Whistles and cellphones and human observers, mostly.

[Winehole23]

You don't have to take my word for it, exactly how many cases of assault has DOJ successfully prosecuted for DHS since they went on a rampage?


In Chicago, the tally of successful prosecutions is zero so far, out of 15 iirc

[Winehole23]

How many people in Minneapolis have been charged with assault on DHS personnel?

[Winehole23]

In LA, DOJ's record of successful prosecutions related to DHS has been piss-poor, in the low single integers, I think

[Winehole23]

Federal prosecutors have lost yet another immigration protest related trial in the Central District of California. This is the sixth trial that’s ended in an acquittal. By my count, they have yet to secure a guilty verdict from a jury.

Feds had charged Isaias Lopez w/ assault on a federal officer.


Five of the six cases were charged as assault on a federal officer.

One of the cases was charged as theft of government property, after a man towed an ICE vehicle during an immigration arrest.https://bsky.app/profile/brittnymejia.bsky.social/post/3mdlvjvy2uc2p

[Winehole23]

My working hypothesis is that DOJ's dismal track record prosecuting assault on officers has led DHS to deemphasize prosecution. Charges can still be laid to smear select targets (like say, people DHS shoots in the face or in the back.)

DHS can beat up and detain administratively whoever it wants without as many legal headaches and juries nope-ing out if they don't take people to court

Pure official oppression

[Winehole23]

the more resistance DHS creates, the more DHS starts hunting other Americans

[Yonivore]

Interesting development...

https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/2015620564787105892?s=20

[Yonivore]

Accountability for cities that harbor criminals, refuse to protect their citizens, and conspire with terrorist organizations is coming...

https://x.com/KatieDaviscourt/status/2017002946740036017?s=20

[ChumpDumper]

Interesting development...

https://x.com/DataRepublican/status/2015620564787105892?s=20

Betteridge's law.

[Winehole23]

*dangles shiny object*




Lemon was taken into custody by federal agents in Los Angeles, where had been covering the Grammy Awards, his attorney Abbe Lowell said.


It is unclear what charge or charges Lemon is facing in the Jan. 18 protest. The arrest came after a magistrate judge last week rejected prosecutors’ initial bid (https://apnews.com/article/justice-department-minnesota-church-disruption-bondi-ed084f5005187f58eabe0cc627d1862b) to charge the journalist.


Lemon, who was fired from CNN in 2023, has said he has no affiliation to the organization that went into the church and that he was there as a journalist chronicling protesters.
https://apnews.com/article/don-lemon-arrest-minnesota-church-service-d3091fe3d1e37100a7c46573667eb85c

[Winehole23]

it's immoral and lawless to treat people who are following the rules like this


https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/29/2-more-kids-from-liam-ramos-columbia-heights-school-in-ice-custody

[Blake]

But still no charges on the agents that executed American citizens

[Yonivore]

*dangles shiny object*
Well, this is good news. And, although I thought he should have been arrested with the others facing prosecution in this case, the reason he's now being arrested, evidence has surfaced that he colluded with protestors to do exactly what they did.

[ChumpDumper]

:lol "evidence"

[Yonivore]

https://x.com/BeThePenguins/status/2017066403124146294?s=20

[ChumpDumper]

I agree that Trumptard probably doesn't know what he supports.

Just doing what his algorithm commands -- which in this case is running over people in the street.

[Yonivore]

Who caved Winehole?

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2016866922067845142?s=20

Minnesota Just Agreed to a Major Concession to the Trump Administration on Immigration Enforcement (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/jeff-charles/2026/01/29/tom-homan-says-minnesota-jails-will-share-information-with-icejails-eill-n2670325)


White House border czar Tom Homan announced on Thursday that Minnesota county jails will begin sharing information with Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) when they are scheduled to release illegal immigrants who have criminal backgrounds.
During a press conference, Homan explained that Attorney General Keith Ellison "has clarified for me that county jails may notify ICE of the release dates of criminal public safety risks so I can take custody upon the release from the jail."

This announcement marks a significant shift in the state's approach to working with federal immigration authorities. Previously, they refused to allow local law enforcement to collaborate with ICE and Border Patrol to apprehend and remove illegal immigrants -- even those who committed violent crimes.

Homan said the Minnesota Department of Corrections has consistently honored ICE detainers and stressed that any reduction in the number of federal agents in Minnesota would be contingent on continued cooperation from state and local officials.

"As we see cooperation happen, then the redeployment will happen," he said.

[Blake]

Who caved Winehole?

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2016866922067845142?s=20

Minnesota Just Agreed to a Major Concession to the Trump Administration on Immigration Enforcement (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/jeff-charles/2026/01/29/tom-homan-says-minnesota-jails-will-share-information-with-icejails-eill-n2670325)

You tards sure don't want to talk about the citizens getting shot any more. You sure as hell don't want to discuss anything Epstein.

Lol you fucking tools.

[Yonivore]

Looks like the Seattle Mayor is looking for a dose of Homan next. I'm not Constitutional expert but, what she's proposing sounds pretty illegal.

https://x.com/camhigby/status/2017062954647040282?s=20

[ChumpDumper]

Who caved Winehole?

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2016866922067845142?s=20

Minnesota Just Agreed to a Major Concession to the Trump Administration on Immigration Enforcement (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/jeff-charles/2026/01/29/tom-homan-says-minnesota-jails-will-share-information-with-icejails-eill-n2670325)

This is why you're an idiot, yoni.

I shared with [Homan] the existing state law that requires state and local authorities to share information with federal immigration authorities regarding non-citizens convicted of felonies. I also explained that county sheriffs, not the attorney general, run county jails and are also covered by the same state law. I did not make, and could not have made, any agreement with him about how sheriffs share with ICE information about people in their county jails.

I also reiterated that in Minnesota, it is against the law to hold an incarcerated person solely on an ICE detainer if there is no other legal reason to hold them, a fact I clarified in a legal opinion nearly one year ago. This is a fact that county sheriffs and chiefs of police recognize and accept and Mr. Homan did not dispute. I further pointed out that the federal government’s debunked claims about a supposed lack of cooperation from local sheriffs and the state prison system in honoring ICE detainers have further eroded trust in the federal government among members of state and local law enforcement.

https://affordingyourlife.substack.com/p/statement-from-ag-ellison-on-meeting

[Winehole23]

Who caved Winehole?

https://x.com/EricLDaugh/status/2016866922067845142?s=20

Minnesota Just Agreed to a Major Concession to the Trump Administration on Immigration Enforcement (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/jeff-charles/2026/01/29/tom-homan-says-minnesota-jails-will-share-information-with-icejails-eill-n2670325)Minnesota was already cooperating with ICE detainers -- all that's happened is that y'all stopped lying about it

[Winehole23]

Yoni is low-information and very easily hoodwinked

[Yonivore]

Minnesota was already cooperating with ICE detainers -- all that's happened is that y'all stopped lying about it
I should have highlighted the sentence before the one I highlighted.


Homan said the Minnesota Department of Corrections has consistently honored ICE detainers and stressed that any reduction in the number of federal agents in Minnesota would be contingent on continued cooperation from state and local officials.

"As we see cooperation happen, then the redeployment will happen," he said.
Nobody lied.

[ChumpDumper]

yoni lied

[Yonivore]

Seems relevant to this crowd...

https://x.com/alexbruesewitz/status/2017240384087130488?s=20

[Yonivore]

Nicki sure has a way with words.

https://x.com/tonyfancyson/status/2017244666962346198?s=20

[Winehole23]

Seems relevant to this crowd...

https://x.com/alexbruesewitz/status/2017240384087130488?s=20a magistrate judge and a district court judge thought there was no probable cause to arrest Don Lemon and his crew

taking the case to a grand jury anyway is highly irregular

[ChumpDumper]

JAMES COMEY IS GOING TO FEDERAL PRISON!

[Winehole23]

Leticia James too, what's up with that?

:lol

[Winehole23]

(they're great at using charging documents as press releases, but they aren't so great at convicting the suspects)

[Winehole23]

hospitalized under DHS guard then released without explanation or charges

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-minneapolis-hospitals-32cd5ca61d495e155d43b7cfd5e563b9

[Blake]

EG7bqoDJ9L4?si=3IpRArzgKGAqyJ4-


https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/30/st-peter-police-chief-intervenes-prevents-federal-agents-from-arresting-resident

[Winehole23]

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[Winehole23]

EG7bqoDJ9L4?si=3IpRArzgKGAqyJ4-


https://www.mprnews.org/story/2026/01/30/st-peter-police-chief-intervenes-prevents-federal-agents-from-arresting-resident

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[Blake]

She pointed her phone at them. They simply reacted in self defense

[Yonivore]

https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_thumbnail/plain/did:plc:4lx6nur5wstwoc4wtgj56kyu/bafkreide44tftsmczoz2rbi4h4sd62ocwk4jvxsnklvgnczng r5t4okema@jpeg
Who knows? Video starts well into whatever interaction occurred to cause them to intercept her. The linked story isn't very helpful either.

[Yonivore]

That's an interesting Court Order, based solely on the Judge's opinion - no mention of what specific Constitutional principle was violated. The photo is also misleading in that it's an image of a child that was being cared for by ICE, after the father fled from law enforcement.


https://cdn.bsky.app/img/feed_fullsize/plain/did:plc:36eqtmzysqf7wsslczw4uxcd/bafkreid223caxkl34na4dgunadg4oyty76xao3hmrszkzj45u 7qogypade@jpeg
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[Blake]

Who knows? Video starts well into whatever interaction occurred to cause them to intercept her. The linked story isn't very helpful either.

They released her with no charges and she had no gun, dipshit. She was driving away from them.

You'll never admit they keep crossing the line, even when they kill.

[ChumpDumper]

That's an interesting Court Order, based solely on the Judge's opinion - no mention of what specific Constitutional principle was violated. The photo is also misleading in that it's an image of a child that was being cared for by ICE, after the father fled from law enforcement.

Due process and the 4th amendment.

That was easy.

You really couldn't figure that out?

That explains a lot.

[Yonivore]

Another Trump win!

BREAKING: TRUMP WIN: Biden Judge Rejects Emergency Effort
to Block ICE’s ‘Operation Metro Surge’ in Minneapolis (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230268/gov.uscourts.mnd.230268.135.0.pdf)

Unlike Winehole's Opinion and Order, this is simply titled ORDER. It includes footnotes and case law citations and no personal opinion. Order based on the merits.

That's how it's done.

[Blake]

Another Trump win!

BREAKING: TRUMP WIN: Biden Judge Rejects Emergency Effort
to Block ICE’s ‘Operation Metro Surge’ in Minneapolis (https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.mnd.230268/gov.uscourts.mnd.230268.135.0.pdf)

Unlike Winehole's Opinion and Order, this is simply titled ORDER. It includes footnotes and case law citations and no personal opinion. Order based on the merits.

That's how it's done.

You mean senselessly killing American citizens? I guess yeah, ICE showing how to murder people and walk away.

[TSA]

:lol LeGaL oBsErVeRs

Inside Minneapolis’s ICE Watch Network

In less than a month, two “ICE watchers” have been shot and killed by immigration enforcement agents in Minneapolis. On January 24, a federal agent shot and killed 37-year-old Alex Pretti, a Veterans Affairs ICU nurse. His death follows that of Renée Good, a 37-year-old mother of three, who was killed on January 7.

Both Pretti and Good participated in “ICE watching,” an anti-immigration-enforcement tactic that can involve tracking ICE agents, filming arrests, and alerting other activists of enforcement actions. While participants frame ICE watching as a “community safety” measure, these tactics often place untrained civilians in direct, high-stakes confrontation with armed federal agents.

In Minneapolis, one key organizer of these activities is “Defend the 612.” The group, the membership of which apparently included Renee Good, oversees a massive network of Signal chats dedicated to monitoring and protesting ICE activity. It has become the beating heart of the city’s resistance to federal immigration enforcement. (The group’s name refers to the Minneapolis area code.)

City Journal reviewed Defend the 612’s trainings, entered its Signal network, and traced its organizational support. Our reporting reveals that members and related officials have encouraged protesters to impede law enforcement; pushed civilians toward legally and physically risky confrontations; and helped mobilize a counterprotest that turned violent.

The group’s growth threatens to stoke the city’s already-raging fire.

Defend the 612 lists ICE-watch trainings on its website, sometimes many per week. These trainings instruct attendees how to identify, document, and alert others to immigration enforcement, and to relay information through neighborhood-based Signal networks.

Some sessions are led by Defend the 612 organizers, while others are taught by outside groups such as States at the Core (STAC) and Project RP. None of these groups responded to City Journal’s request for comment.

STAC was co-founded in 2024 by organizer Jill Garvey. The group trains community members to amplify local disputes into national stories. In rural Tennessee, for example, STAC helped residents spin a real estate project into an international story about “white nationalists.” STAC operates within the largest funding networks in progressive politics. It is fiscally sponsored by the Hopewell Fund, part of the Arabella Advisors “dark money” network.

Garvey previously worked with Protect RP (Rogers Park), a Chicago-based group that developed an early and widely emulated ICE-watching template in 2017. She has turned that operational blueprint into a national strategy; STAC claims to have helped activists implement ICE-watch frameworks in 20 states since early 2025.

Project RP, which cohosts trainings with STAC, has used a template centered on direct interference with enforcement. A Project RP organizer, Gabe Gonzalez, explained in 2017 that the group’s activities were “about interfering with [immigration enforcement], confusing them, slowing them down so they can’t take more people, and doing it so well that they never want to come back.” Last November, he reiterated the group’s objective to make immigration enforcement “uncomfortable and inefficient.”

A version of this model reached Minneapolis in December 2025. On January 8, Garvey joined “ICE Watch Welcome and Orientation,” a training event hosted by Defend the 612 organizer and longtime activist Andrew Fahlstrom. On the call, Garvey said that she had worked with “organizers in Minneapolis over the last five weeks,” suggesting she may have been working with Defend the 612, which was founded on December 1, 2025.

While Defend the 612’s trainings are less explicitly supportive of enforcement interference than Project RP’s, they nevertheless encourage protesters to disrupt officers. At the same training, for example, Lex Horan, an instructor, encouraged participants to make ICE’s work “too expensive,” “too difficult,” and “too annoying” to continue. Horan recounted having blown a whistle at a protest, which, she claimed, allowed the person ICE was questioning to “g[e]t away.”

Later at the same meeting, Minneapolis City Council Member Dan Engelhart (who did not respond to a comment request), removed all doubt about the group’s mission. Defend the 612’s goal, he said, is to “slow [law enforcement actions] down and cost them money.”

Defend the 612 uses Signal, an end-to-end encrypted messaging platform, to bring these tactics from the classroom to the streets. The group operates an extensive network of neighborhood- and task-based Signal chats, where members monitor ICE activity, train fellow activists, and coordinate protests.

Until recent publicity prompted the group to change tactics, new members faced a straightforward onboarding process. Prospective members signed up through Defend the 612’s website and received an email directing them to join one of the “Neighborhood Networks”—large Signal chats that direct participants to a list of more than 150 neighborhood- and task-based groups across Minnesota.

After joining a neighborhood’s listed chat, administrators contact participants and ask them to choose from a menu of additional, unlisted role-based chats specific to that neighborhood, such as the “Non-Cooperation Team” (which “build[s] a larger strategy to resist ICE and authoritarianism”) and “Patrol Team” (which “[c]reates systems of safety” around “ICE hotspots”). Depending on the role, these chats are either vetted—meaning Defend the 612 administrators screen prospective group members—or unvetted. In unvetted chats, administrators and others encourage participants to use nicknames and avoid discussing illegal activity.

The most active unvetted chats are dedicated to “rapid response” at the neighborhood level. In these discussions, participants track suspected ICE agents—by car and on foot—and post suspected officers’ locations, photos, and license plate numbers. Alongside the text chat, a dispatcher hosts a live group phone call, employing paramilitary jargon—such as “copy,” “roger,” “eyes on,” and “keep the air clear”—to coordinate surveillance of ICE agents.

Each group’s Signal description contains reference links that help Defend the 612 members better surveil federal immigration enforcement. Some chats link to instruction documents that train members how, for example, to follow suspected ICE officers’ vehicles. Others link to crowdsourced logs, which include a running database of more than 4,800 license plates of confirmed and suspected ICE vehicles; a log of deportation-related travel; and a list of nearly 70 hotels where ICE agents have been known to stay.

Many neighborhoods have a “vetted” chat for members involved in “mutual aid”: coordinating grocery delivery, transportation, and rental assistance for immigrants. (Advocates generally used euphemisms, such as “vulnerable neighbors,” to avoid referring to immigrants’ legal status in communications.) In some cases, these members discussed how to bring supplies to immigrants’ homes to reduce the risk of detection. Members have discussed the tactic of writing down immigrants’ addresses on paper, not their phones, and eating the paper if confronted by law enforcement.

Another vetted chat, “Communications,” is dedicated to crafting an “external narrative-shaping strategy” for the ICE-watch movement. Members characterized their media work as “propaganda” and insisted on the need to “maintain control of your narratives.” To that end, participants discussed the need to condition their speech to journalists on retaining editorial control over how stories are written.

This arrangement runs counter to standard newsroom best practice. But chat participants claimed that the Minnesota Reformer—“an independent, nonprofit news” outlet whose parent organization was funded by the Arabella Advisors–managed Hopewell Fund—made an exception. In one exchange in the Communications chat, an account that appeared to belong to activist Elle Neubauer described allowing a Minnesota Reformer reporter to accompany him as he followed ICE agents in his vehicle, for a story published January 13. Neubauer claimed the reporter had agreed in advance to give activists final say over the article, which he said was read aloud to them line by line, revised at their request, and would have been pulled entirely on request. Members later debated whether the piece amounted to “good propaganda or bad propaganda,” warning that “propaganda will win or lose the fight and support for it.”

“We stand by our story. We absolutely dispute the characterization,” Reformer Editor-in-Chief J. Patrick Coolican told City Journal. “We offered to call and read their quotes and the context prior to publication to check for accuracy and their personal safety, which is standard practice on a story like this. We assured the sources their participation was entirely up to them. We explicitly told them we would not send them a draft of the story.” Neubauer did not respond to a request for comment.

In other Signal groups, members discuss how best to disrupt federal immigration enforcement. Members encouraged other participants to memorize the hotline of the National Lawyers Guild—“the nation’s oldest and largest progressive bar association”—for free legal services. One participant described getting arrested as a tool to divert agents from “vulnerable community members,” and encouraged other participants “to be super annoying and waste” law enforcement’s “time and resources.”

Members repeatedly referenced the “Simple Sabotage Field Manual,” an activist handbook that members used to generate ways to impede ICE. Members discussed throwing urine at agents, praising one such incident as “mvp” behavior. A daily update account called “The Report Card” encouraged participants to “annoy” agents with constant noise. They view “noise making and interrupting their meals and bathroom breaks” as essential, noting these tactics “serve a critical role in draining their morale.”

These Signal networks have also functioned as an organizing hub for an aggressive counterprotest. In the days leading up to a demonstration by right-wing influencer Jake Lang in Minneapolis earlier this month, members in Defend the 612’s “Phillips and Powderhorn” chat circulated a post about a “defensive counteraction.” They posted an image of a hanging Klansman and tactical guidelines instructing members to mask up, wear goggles, and not film attendees. One accompanying graphic marked as “false” the statement, “Nonviolence is the only strategy.”

(City Journal’s pseudonymous account made the suggestion that the demonstrators take a nonviolent approach. An administrator removed our account from the group.)

Other members defended the inclusion of militant advocates by citing “St. Paul’s Principles”—a framework that forbids the denunciation of fellow activists’ tactics. Following a violent clash that Saturday, group members circulated videos of Lang being dragged into a mob and struck over the head, gloating over the images as evidence that their counterprotest had been effective.

Such aggressive protest tactics can have lethal consequences. Defend the 612 members witnessed as much when Renee Good—whose name and likeness appeared on a profile in one of its Signal chats—was killed by an ICE officer after driving her car in his vicinity and refusing to heed his instructions.

For Defend the 612 organizers, Good’s death was a recruiting opportunity. The evening Good died, Defend the 612 held an “emergency vigil,” during which flyers were distributed directing attendees to join the group. At Defend the 612’s training session the following day, Fahlstrom reported about 1,000 new signups.

At that training, organizers described federal immigration enforcement in charged terms, characterizing the legal detentions of illegal immigrants as “kidnappings” and “abductions,” and portraying Minneapolis as being under federal “occupation” and facing “[r]ising authoritarianism.”

In another training on Defend the 612’s website, Garvey insisted that federal immigration enforcement has nothing to do with crime or “an invasion.” Instead, she suggested, the White House was simply “scapegoat[ing] vulnerable people” as part of an “escalation of authoritarianism.” This framing effectively provides a rationale for ignoring officers’ commands during field encounters.

Fahlstrom described Good’s death as an “assassination.” Another organizer noted that Good was on “driving patrol” at the time she died. Footage from various angles shows Good in her car blocking traffic and honking her horn. Her partner, Becca Good, was outside the vehicle filming and speaking with ICE agent Jonathan Ross. In the footage, Renee appears to be smiling and ignoring orders from approaching agents. She then attempted to drive the vehicle before she was shot. Afterwards, Becca—who told Renee to drive—can be heard screaming, “Why did you have real bullets?”

Defense lawyer Kira Kelley spoke during the Defend the 612 training and downplayed the danger associated with “driving patrols.” “We saw with Renee’s tragic assassination that driving patrols do carry some physical risk,” she said, but “The biggest risk of all is to do nothing.”

Kelley, who did not respond to a comment request, advised participants to roll up their windows, remain silent, and refuse to open doors if agents approach. She did not clearly explain, however, that refusal to comply with lawful commands during an enforcement action can constitute interference. Rather than telling participants to refrain from all illegal activity, she advised them not to discuss illegal activity in Signal chats.

Absent from the Defend the 612 training was any instruction to put one’s personal safety first. Instead, Lex Horan asked volunteers to “stretch” their willingness to take risks.

Such risk-taking contributed to Good’s death. Had she complied with officers’ commands—regardless of their merits—she would almost certainly still be alive.

The death of Alex Pretti last weekend is only the latest tragedy to emerge from a model that places untrained civilians in the middle of high-stakes federal operations. While official accounts and bystander videos of the Saturday shooting at 26th Street and Nicollet Avenue offer conflicting narratives about the split-second escalation, the outcome highlights the extreme physical risk of inserting oneself into the immediate perimeter of armed agents.

Following the shooting, the Defend the 612 network has not slowed down. Instead, organizers are leveraging the fatality to fuel a new wave of activity, urging more people to enter the same dangerous settings that claimed Pretti’s life.

Rather than pausing to reassess the safety of these tactics, Defend the 612 launched a series of 90-minute trainings. On Sunday, less than 24 hours after the shooting, an organizer sent an emergency message to the group’s Signal chats. “The only way these senseless murders, detentions and acts of violence will stop,” the message read, “is if tens and thousands [sic] of us are on the streets protecting each other.”

This cycle reveals the core strategy of Defend the 612’s leadership: using casualties as a catalyst for further escalation. Organizers continue to push volunteers into unpredictable scenes, ensuring continued confrontations between residents and federal agents, while the professional architects of the chaos remain shielded from the consequences.

https://www.city-journal.org/article/minneapolis-ice-watch-protests-defend-612

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Good and Pretti were killed directly due to the ineptitude of secret police who acted against what little training they received.

They, and Trump, and you are responsible for their deaths.

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Still blaming the victims for being shot and killed from behind.

BUT THAT MOM'S SUV COULD BE A WEAPON EVEN THOUGH IT'S TRYING TO LEAVE.

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(Snake Boy with nothing to say about his own posts)

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Why are your secret police running a secret prison in a federal building no member of Congress can enter?