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spurschick
12-08-2005, 07:22 PM
An interesting betting perspective...


Champs or Chumps: Why can`t Spurs cover?
http://www.covers.com/articles/articles.aspx?theArt=63508&tid=25&t=1

By Josh Hansen
Tue, Dec 6, 2005

Barreling through the NBA ranks like King Kong in the streets of New York, the San Antonio Spurs are taking no prisoners.

Bettors brave enough to get in the way are also getting crushed.

It doesn`t help that Oddsmakers are throwing pointspreads like giant gorilla-sized shackles on the Spurs night in and night out, making Spurs-backing almost as risky as big game hunting.

Although San Antonio has suffered only one loss in its last 10 games, they`ve posted just two wins against the number, subsequently knocking their ATS record down to a mediocre 7-9-1.

“Part of the problem has to do with the way the Spurs play. They`re economical, and just do enough to win, instead of trying to screw teams to the floor,” says Sports InterAction`s Anthony Munnelly.

“So we can`t set the 14-3 NBA Champions at -2 or -3 favorites against Boston, say, even though we know in our hearts that they don`t really see the point in hammering Boston by ten or twelve.”

That`s because the Spurs prefer to control the pace of the game, which is usually a defense-first style of play. San Antonio ranks third in points allowed per game (90.1), second rebounds allowed per game (33.7) and is second in field goal percentage (42.1).

So why are bettors seeing spreads of 9 ˝ , 10, 11 and even 13 like they have in San Antonio`s last five games?

“Because they`re NBA champions - royalty is expected to put down the serfs,” says Munnelly. “If bettors see the NBA champs at lower numbers, they`ll overplay the favorite and our book will be unbalanced, which is never good from our point of view.”

At the start of the season, books always give the champs the benefit of the doubt.

But because so many people expect the Spurs to roll over their opponents, pointspreads are simply too big for them cover. Monday`s 110-85 win over the Orlando Magic as 11-point favorites is the only time the Spurs have covered in the last five games.

“Every coach in the league would aspire to have a team like this,” said Orlando Magic head coach Brian Hill after Monday’s loss to the Spurs. "They`re unselfish, solid defensively, have shot-blocking ability, core players in place and the right types of pieces around them, and they`re very well coached."

Unfortunately for backers, it doesn`t always mean a cover.

PM5K
12-08-2005, 07:28 PM
“Part of the problem has to do with the way the Spurs play. They`re economical, and just do enough to win

I don't bet much so I can't speak too much of that but I can say that that's a stupid quote, the Spurs do just enough to win?

THEY LEAD THE LEAGUE IN POINT DIFFERENTIAL....

strangeweather
12-08-2005, 07:33 PM
I don't bet much so I can't speak too much of that but I can say that that's a stupid quote, the Spurs do just enough to win?

THEY LEAD THE LEAGUE IN POINT DIFFERENTIAL....

Yeah, but if they were thinking like an NCAA team, they could be winning by 20 or 30 a night. Of course, that would be silly for them to do.

boutons
12-08-2005, 07:37 PM
second in field goal percentage (42.1).

correction: 1st, 48%!!!

Fuck this guy. Just another whiner about the Spurs.

exstatic
12-08-2005, 07:55 PM
Once again, someone who thinks that point spreads are somehow connected to reality. A pointspread is designed to get about a 50/50 mix of bets. In other words, it's the action that sets the spread.

Kori Ellis
12-08-2005, 07:58 PM
second in field goal percentage (42.1).

correction: 1st, 48%!!!

Fuck this guy. Just another whiner about the Spurs.

He's talking about FG percentage allowed.

Obstructed_View
12-08-2005, 08:21 PM
Once again, someone who thinks that point spreads are somehow connected to reality. A pointspread is designed to get about a 50/50 mix of bets. In other words, it's the action that sets the spread.
Exactly right. Casinos set the point spreads to make money for themselves based on the way people bet. The Spurs probably cover the spread at exactly the same rate as every other team in the history of sports.

ShoogarBear
12-08-2005, 08:58 PM
Whoever wrote this article has no friggin clue what a point spread is supposed to do.

5ToolMan
12-08-2005, 09:44 PM
[QUOTE=exstatic]Once again, someone who thinks that point spreads are somehow connected to reality. A pointspread is designed to get about a 50/50 mix of bets. In other words, it's the action that sets the spread./QUOTE]

Actually, the innitial spread is set according to anticipated action. The spread then moves according to the actual betting, trying to keep the book balanced.

LittleGeneral
12-08-2005, 11:56 PM
i miss clubalien

50 cent
12-09-2005, 01:51 PM
The books don't always want the action even. They set traps a lot of the time.

Obstructed_View
12-10-2005, 07:25 AM
The books don't always want the action even. They set traps a lot of the time.
It is still set artificially to make money for the casinos. It has nothing to do with a team's "ability" to cover.

ShoogarBear
12-10-2005, 02:10 PM
Since I've never placed a real Vegas bet, can someone answer this:

If I place a bet with a 7.5 point spread on Monday and by the time the game is played on Sunday it's down to 4.5, I still am locked in at the 7.5, correct?