Fact or Fiction: The US government was behind 9-11

[usckk]

I believe its a fact.

[spurs=bling]

come on,i hear all of this all the time

[Samr]

Fact: this thread should be in the political forum

Fiction: usckk backs up his arguements with actual points

[MI21]

And why would that be? :lol

[spurs=bling]

yes you are right and look they even have a big happy family


http://www.avtomatika.com/brane/saddam.jpg

[TOP-CHERRY]

http://www.davekopel.com/Terror/Fiftysix-Deceits-in-Fahrenheit-911.htm


Woops. I dropped a link.

[KEDA]

I believe its a fact.


I believe you are a dumbass!

[usckk]

All my proof here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194&q=9-11+conspiracy

[CrashMag]

need to watch 911 in plane sight
download it on lime wire....
has anyone seen it???? what did you think???

[gospursgojas]

All my proof here:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2023320890224991194&q=9-11+conspiracy


He makes some interesting points, however, alot of the images and video could of been played with...we all know how easy that is to do

[ZStomp]

need to watch 911 in plane sight
download it on lime wire....
has anyone seen it???? what did you think???


Shut up bitch!

[usckk]

He makes some interesting points, however, alot of the images and video could of been played with...we all know how easy that is to do
The video was legit. I viewed and read more about this topic and they have similar points.

[travis2]

Puh-leeze...:rolleyes

[CharlieMac]

Yeah. Wait....you're probably serious, aren't you?

[pache100]

Fact or Fiction: The US government was behind 9-11

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I believe its a fact.

Fiction. NO POSSIBLE WAY the number of people who would have to have been in the know and involved could be kept that quiet for this long. No fricking way. I work for the federal government and I guarantee you - SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TALKED BY NOW.

[nkdlunch]

usckk just won a free vacation in guantanamo! enjoy!

[Vashner]

Na it was the design of the towers.. The aircraft sliced deep and the fire burned out bolt. The towers where a great design just some Islam wanted to attak Amerika Deckadance....

Stupid fucks now there getting there ass kicked all over the world...

At the time of the attack I was working for the Federal Courts and my sister was in NYC. Took me about 6 hours to find out she was ok. They did see the fires from a few miles away. But I have been able to see more video of the jumpers and the "pop" audio that they don't want the public to see via the private courts satellite system.

I also helped out in getting NYC court operations back up and running. The senior judge slept in the courthouse for 8 nights. Sure it hit us all hard I think.

OF course it was not the govt.. how stupid to suggest.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I believe its a fact.


How do I subscribe to your newsletter?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Fiction. NO POSSIBLE WAY the number of people who would have to have been in the know and involved could be kept that quiet for this long. No fricking way. I work for the federal government and I guarantee you - SOMEBODY WOULD HAVE TALKED BY NOW.


this is the wrong mode of thinking

What i find incredibly interesting about the whole 9/11 thing is that little 3rd tower that fell, the one we don't hear much about, well, it was further away from the towers than the Hilton across the street, which received absolutely no damage.

The reason the 3rd tower fell was officially because of damage from the other towers. However firefighters at the scene said they saw explosions similar to that of a building being demolished. In fact, when they showed the footage of this building collapsing, one of those old white ABC dudes said the same thing.

How convenient that the guy who owned the building pulled an insurance policy worth millions, only a short time before 9/11.

Just thought it that this was kinda funny. What a smart dude.

[Oh, Gee!!]

this is the wrong mode of thinking

besides, nobody tells the mailman shit.

[Vashner]

Well another way to look at it.. you could put good money in Vegas odds that anyone suggesting the USA bombed itself on 911 is a fucking stupid motherfucking pussy. Or whimp for short.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I dont think the USA did it, but I find the 2 or 3 coincidences involved to be funny, as well as the fact that some people dismiss it as totally impossible right off the bat

i think it is possible
but unlikely

[Oh, Gee!!]

Well another way to look at it.. you could put good money in Vegas odds that anyone suggesting the USA bombed itself on 911 is a fucking stupid motherfucking pussy. Or whimp for short.

Vbookie?

[Johnny Tightlips]

I ain't sayin' nothin'.

[NameDropper]

There was quite a buzz going around D.C. for months but nothing came of it.
Rumor has it there's some shit nobody will ever know.

[Johnny Tightlips]

Who says I been buzzin'?

[PakiDan]

It WAS the government... but it wasn't by the means displayed. It was that big monkey and lizard from the RAMPAGE video game. Only, we couldn't see them because they were invisible. President Bush made them invisible with his special powers he uses to control all our minds. The airplanes were just an illusion implanted in our heads. The CIA embedded secret coding in a Lucky Charms commercial to make us think we saw planes. I KNOW THIS FOR A FACT!

[td4mvp21]

This is the dumbest shit I have ever heard. Why in the hell would our government plan for such a thing to happen? I don't care how much you hate the President or Republican/Democratic Parties, but this is flat out stupid for anyone to say. I know there are several "coincidences", but come on, it caused more hurt than anything. Flat out stupidest thing I've heard.

[Johnny Tightlips]

I ain't sayin' nothin'.

[Vashner]

Yea like some people we have thrown out the back of C17's over the Pacific...

We have a few stacks of secrets.. Sure the liberals would love to give to CNN every single classified document...

This is the same as saying we knew about Pearl....

Same people that would cry about Saddam would pull out all this data saying "Bush should of known" ...

[Slomo]

Fact!!!




We the Slovakian know!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Aside from the nerd voice the narrator has, this thing is very convincing. Although I do believe it is almost imposible for even the American government to pull this off.

[Oh, Gee!!]

It's bullshit. However, Bush & Company was behind the Katrina disaster

[SA210]

It's bullshit. However, Bush & Company was behind the Katrina disaster

:lol, however, cameras caught a white bronco speeding off before she hit.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

are the facts being mentioned in that video not true? I'm just wondering, don't bit my head off. Seriously, I find it hard to believe, and I would love for someone who understands about some of the things discussed in that video to explain to me wether they are true or false.

[pache100]

this is the wrong mode of thinking

Well, thank you very much. After 30 1/2 years of federal experience, I find out I have "the wrong mode of thinking". I'll inform the Navy, I'm sure they will want to know.

I'm telling you, man. No way that many people (the number of people who would have had to know) working for the government could keep a secret like that this long. There just ain't no way. I know the nature of government workers too well to believe it.

[Phenomanul]

michael moore's films are not documentarys, and he shouldn't parade them around as such

he has a biased viewpoint that he wants to propagate--and it makes him a SHITLOAD of money in the process

you would have to be really really dumb to think that people actually think michael moore doesn't manipulate his movies


I agree....

[Phenomanul]

Aside from the nerd voice the narrator has, this thing is very convincing. Although I do believe it is almost imposible for even the American government to pull this off.

Awesome sig MaNuMaNiA...

[Tres_Till_it_MHz]

Everything on the Internet is true.

CBF you can't even do your own homework STFU already dumbass.

[SA210]

Some ppl hear rumors on the internetsss.

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

This might be the dumbest thread of the year. Hard to say, though, there are so many to choose from.

[Nbadan]

For those of you who have a serious interest in this topic, I think a good place to start is the online interview with the live-in girlfriend of the 'alleged' domestic mastermind behind 911, Mohamed Atta. Her name is Amanda Keller (http://www.madcowprod.com/mcmnpremierewmv.html)
(the interview starts about half way through the video)

[IceColdBrewski]

Not sure how it can be the U.S. Government when a certain terrorist has already claimed responsibility.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,137095,00.html

[Nbadan]

The mastermind behind 911 - Khalid Shaikh Mohammed


Just as Khalid Shaikh Mohammed was reestablishing himself in Afghanistan, Bin Laden and his colleagues were also transplanting their operations to the same country. Abu Hafs al-Masri/Mohammed Atef, Bin Laden's chief of operations, arranged a meeting between Bin Laden and KSM in Tora Bora sometime in mid-1996, in which KSM outlined a plan that would eventually become the quadruple hijackings of 2001. Bin Laden urged KSM to become a full-fledged member of Al Qaeda, but he continued to refuse such a commitment until around early 1999, after the bombings of U.S. embassies in Nairobi and Dar es Salaam convinced him that Bin Laden was truly committed to attacking the United States. Mohammed wished to retain some degree of autonomy as a mujahid. His continuing relationship with Abdul Rasul Sayyaf--an opponent of the Taliban--had to be kept hidden from Bin Laden and the rest of Al Qaeda, as full disclosure would have been problematic.

The 9/11 Commission Report notes on page 149 that KSM moved his family from Iran to Karachi in Pakistan in 1997. That same year, he attempted without success to join mujahid leader Ibn al Khattab in Chechnya, another area of special interest to KSM. He was apparently unable to travel to Chechnya, and so he instead went back to Afghanistan, where over time he became more and more imbedded in Al Qaeda until his eventual acceptance of Bin Laden's invitation to move to Kandahar and join the organization as a full-fledged member (although he claims that he still refused to swear a formal oath of loyalty to Bin Laden). Eventually, he became leader of Al Qaeda's media committee. He also worked on unfulfilled plans for attacks in Israel and Southeast Asia.

Where is he today?


On October 12, 2004, Human Rights Watch reported that 11 suspects, including Khalid Shaikh Mohammed, had "disappeared" to a semisecret prison in Jordan, and might have been tortured there under the direction of the CIA ([1], [2], [3]). Jordanian and American officials have denied those allegations. ([4], [5]). He has allegedly been subjected to the waterboarding interrogation technique[6].

Wikipedia, still the best free online source despite nasty rumors. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Shaikh_Mohammed)

[Trainwreck2100]

It wasn't the gov. and it wasn't al quaeda.


It was those guys that make miniature american flags/car flags. They made a bundle after 9/11

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Everything on the Internet is true.

CBF you can't even do your own homework STFU already dumbass.


If I cared enough, I'd look up links for you but you wouldn't even read them so its twice as pointless.

[JoeChalupa]

Fiction.

[Ginofan]

I honestly don't know what to think of it all. I've watched numerous documentaries produced by both sides of the spectrum, read various articles claiming facts...it's just really confusing. It's extremely hard to believe that our own government would do such a thing to us, but things...important things, just don't add up. I don't think we'll ever truly know what happened, who did what, and who is to blame.

[Mixability]

don't know if this has been posted already:
http://www.freedomunderground.org/memoryhole/pentagon.php#Main

[Murphy]

fiction

[T Park]

How was Bush behind Katrina again?

[CharlieMac]

How was Bush behind Katrina again?

He's managed to accelerate the effects of global warming in the past 5 and was was in cahoots with the Australian mafia to create the worlds first man-made hurricane. The man's a fucking genius.

[spurs=bling]

He's managed to accelerate the effects of global warming in the past 5 and was was in cahoots with the Australian mafia to create the worlds first man-made hurricane. The man's a fucking genius.
:lmao :lmao :lmao

that is the funniest thing i've heard

[Josh810]

Probably the single stupidest thread on any forum ever.

[T Park]

Agreed.

But let the nutjobs have their fun.

[Mixability]

But let the nutjobs have their fun.

Having your fun yet? :lol

[cecil collins]

Nutjobs:defined as not believing everything your government tells you. If you don't at least consider possible alternatives to the story they gave us you are a nutjob. Why would Bush try to prevent an investigation on the matter if there is nothing to hide.