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howard2
12-14-2005, 05:06 PM
ESPN.com
By Chris Sheridan
Dec 14, 2005
Link: ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=sheridan_chris&id=2258666)

Shopping season begins in the NBA
When the clock strikes midnight Wednesday, just about every NBA player becomes trade-eligible, and the general consensus is that deals will proceed faster than they did a year ago, when Dec. 15 was a dud in terms of trades.

"There seems to be a lot of movement right now. There are some teams trying to push things and make some deals," Suns general manager Bryan Colangelo said Tuesday night.

Plenty of teams could use a point guard like Earl Watson.
Under collective-bargaining rules, players who signed contracts over the summer are ineligible to be dealt for 90 days after they signed or until Dec. 15 -- whichever is later. That means a handful of signings that seemed to make sense at the time -- Earl Watson signing with Denver, Arvydas Macijauskas joining the Hornets, Jerome James bringing his enlarged frame to New York -- can now be put in the past. All it will take is the right match between two willing partners.

"As a businessperson who knows my job, a person who is educated on what I do, the 15th is an important date for me, so I'm very much aware of it," said Watson, who it seemed was being showcased Tuesday night, making three 3-pointers and a dunk in the fourth quarter of Denver's 99-87 victory at Charlotte.

Watson signed a five-year contract for the Nuggets' full mid-level exception last summer, but Denver coach George Karl has had little use for him, playing him only 14 minutes per game and holding him out of nine of the Nuggets' 21 games. New York has offered forward Malik Rose, but Denver general manager Kiki Vandeweghe is likely to find a more appealing offer from a team that feels Watson can become a latter-day Eric Snow -- a heady, defense-minded point guard who feels he's ready to become an everyday contributor rather than being stuck as a career backup.

With many teams searching for size, there has been a keen focus on the threesome of bigs -- Corliss Williamson, Brian Skinner and Kenny Thomas -- that the Sacramento Kings received from Philadelphia in last season's Chris Webber trade. Many sources believe Thomas is the most likely to be moved, and several pro-personnel types were in attendance Saturday night in Seattle as Thomas played a mundane 17-minute stint, shooting just 1-of-3 with one rebound. The 6-7 forward, who makes $6.5 million, is under contract for four more seasons. Williamson has only one season remaining, while Skinner has two. Kings president Geoff Petrie is seeking scoring off the bench.

Elsewhere, two teams mentioned by several league sources as the most likely to pull the trigger soon are the New Jersey Nets and Washington Wizards.

Nets president Rod Thorn would like to upgrade the power-forward position for an underachieving team that lost by 20 points at Washington on Wednesday night. He has been shopping third-string point guard Zoran Planinic and a pair of first-round picks (the Nets' own and the Clippers'), and the arrival of Dec. 15 will allow him to package one or more of the spare parts (Lamond Murray, Scott Padgett, Jeff McInnis) that New Jersey signed over the summer.

Washington would like to acquire someone to take some defensive heat off Gilbert Arenas, who is running up against the opponent's best defender on a night-in, night-out basis now that other teams no longer have to worry about Larry Hughes. Antonio Daniels, signed as a free agent in the offseason, is averaging only 4.7 points on 30 percent shooting. He will now become eligible to be traded, and the Wizards may try to find him a new home more suited to his strengths as a ballhandler and offensive initiator. Another Washington guard, Chucky Atkins, has formally requested a trade.

The pace of Dec. 15-related activity likely will be affected by the Indiana Pacers, as they sort through more than a dozen offers that have come in since the start of the week when they announced they would trade Ron Artest. Until the other 29 teams know where Artest is headed, some will hold off on making other deals.

Sacramento, for instance, could hold off on a Thomas or Skinner trade if it believes it has a viable shot at acquiring Artest. Petrie, aghast at the Kings' poor start before they put together their current three-game winning streak, has been exploring all of his options, including deals involving Peja Stojakovic, who will be an unrestricted free agent at the end of the season heading into a summer in which teams with significant cap space will have very few impact players to bid on. Stojakovic's asking price likely will be $12 million or more, and the Kings will have to make a judgment about whether Peja is worth the price. If they decide he isn't, they may trade him sooner rather than later -- especially if the Artest situation impacts their choices.

The Chicago Bulls are widely seen as Stojakovic's most likely next destination, but any team that acquired Peja during this season would also get his "Larry Bird rights" -- which means that team would have the opportunity to re-sign the 28-year-old, even if it meant going over the usual salary-cap limits.

If Chicago fears that another team will acquire Stojakovic and effectively take him off next summer's market, the best time might be now to put together a package (Luol Deng, Tim Thomas and draft picks) that would be more appealing to the Kings than a straight-up swap for Artest.

Stojakovic's countryman Vladimir Radmanovic likely will stay put in Seattle. After signing a one-year tender, he has the right to veto any trade. If he were to accept a trade, he'd forfeit his Bird rights and would be prevented from re-signing with the team that acquired him if it were over the $49.5 million salary cap. Radmanovic likely would only accept a trade to a team that will be substantially below the cap next summer (Clippers, Bulls).

His teammate Ronald Murray has been mentioned as a candidate for a trade from Seattle to the Nuggets. He also would have to forfeit his Bird rights, but Denver would be able to re-sign him for any amount up to next season's mid-level exception. But because Murray didn't sign until Sept. 27, he will not become trade-eligible until Dec. 26.

A few other players around the league will remain ineligible to be traded until 90 days elapse from the date they signed. Among them are Miami's Gary Payton (eligible Dec. 21), Chicago's Darius Songaila (Dec. 22), Orlando's Bo Outlaw (Dec. 28), Charlotte's Keith Bogans (Dec. 29) and Miami's Jason Kapono (Jan. 2).

Of course, there's always a chance that this Dec. 15 will be another dud, coming and going without any deals. That's what happened last season, but the calm was loudly shattered two days later when New Jersey pulled off its trade for Vince Carter.

This season, however, there seems to be a consensus that teams are a little more eager to deal.
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They is a trade rumor of Indiana trading Artest, plus another player to Warriors for Dunleavy & Foyle, etc.

ShoogarBear
12-14-2005, 05:11 PM
The Wiz should try to get rid of Atkins (and maybe AD) and get Earl Watson. Their perimeter D is horrible.

Kip Fanatic
12-14-2005, 05:25 PM
The Nuggets need size because of what happened to Nene.

ChumpDumper
12-14-2005, 05:35 PM
If he were to accept a trade, he'd forfeit his Bird rights and would be prevented from re-signing with the team that acquired him if it were over the $49.5 million salary cap.That doesn't sound right at all.

Bruno
12-14-2005, 06:04 PM
The real question is : will the Spurs make a trade tomorow ?

ChumpDumper
12-14-2005, 06:30 PM
That's easy.

No.

Vashner
12-14-2005, 08:33 PM
Santa is going to send Artest to who's been naughty...

leemajors
12-14-2005, 09:16 PM
walton has some really harsh words for artest tonight, it's hilarious.
"on a good team this guy shouldn't even get a practice jersey." and before you bash walton, he came up in an entirely different basketball environment than any of today's player's. john wooden would never put up with anyone like artest.

wildbill2u
12-15-2005, 01:13 PM
Not sure why you used bold type to emphasize Watson. Do you think the Spurs would be interested? If Watson 'feels he can be an everyday contributor rather than a career backup' I don't see any future for him on this team.

The starting guard jobs are locked up for the forseeable future.

howard2
12-15-2005, 05:59 PM
ESPN.com
Dec 15, 2005
Link: ESPN (http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/features/rumors)

NBA Rumor Central: Artest Could Be Toronto Bound Other Rumors
WHO INTERESTED THE SKINNY
Ron Artest (Pacers)
Interested clubs: Raptors?; Hawks?; Raptors?; Warriors?; Cavaliers?; Nets?; Heat?; Kings?; Knicks?

Artest Could Be Toronto Bound
Dec 15 - According to the Toronto Sun, a rumor making the rounds last night had the Pacers badboy and second-round pick Erazem Lorbek going to the Raptors for Morris Peterson, another roster player (potentially Matt Bonner) and a first-round pick.

More gossip ...
The Los Angeles Daily News reports that the Lakers and coach Phil Jackson, in particular have strong interest in acquiring Ron Artest, a source close to the team said Wednesday. But the Lakers are not willing to part with Lamar Odom in a trade package and are uncertain whether they even will be among the league's leading contenders to land Artest.

Jermaine O'Neal told the Boston Globe he has two people in mind who would be more than suitable replacements for Artest: former teammate Al Harrington, now with Atlanta, and Bonzi Wells, now with Sacramento. Harrington would be a natural, O'Neal surmised, because of his familiarity with the system and the team. As for Wells, O'Neal said, "He fits in with what we do. We have a defensive-oriented team. He's a 6-6, 6-7 body who can play two different positions and thinks defense first."

Isiah Thomas said he finally placed a formal call yesterday to Pacers honcho Donnie Walsh to express his interest in Ron Artest, but admitted he's not going all out to get him, reports the New York Post. Thomas made it clear he's not offering Channing Frye, Nate Robinson, David Lee or Trevor Ariza. "I wouldn't part with any of them," Thomas said. "I like where we're headed." Walsh said he's received calls from close to 20 teams.

Two Eastern Conference officials briefed on the matter said the Knicks were not in the running for Artest, according to the New York Times. Although the Knicks admire Artest's talent, they are wary of his checkered past.

The New Orleans Times-Picayune reports, one player that the Hornets will not pursue is Ron Artest. "I've always thought I could coach anybody, but I don't know about Ron," Byron Scott said.

The Grizzlies have not entered serious discussions with the Pacers as of yet about Ron Artest, and the organization isn't inclined to risk another implosion, an insider told the Memphis Commercial-Appeal.

Stromile Swift
Rockets Nets? Nets Want To Make A Swift Deal
Dec 15 - The New York Post reports, yesterday multiple league sources claimed the Nets and Rockets discussed a deal involving Stromile Swift for Marc Jackson and a first-round pick, a deal that did not interest Houston. But the Nets are expected to intensify their quest as concern grows over Jason Collins, who will undergo additional tests on his leg today.
Jackson told the Newark Star-Ledger he wouldn't request a trade, but said he wouldn't be devastated if he was traded. He still believes he can play a part in fixing the Nets' problems.

Quentin Richardson
Knicks Wizards? Sources Deny Knicks-Wizards Trade Talk
Dec 15 - Yesterday the Washington Post reported the Wizards had discussed a trade that would send Chucky Atkins and Jared Jeffries to the New York Knicks in exchange for Quentin Richardson. However today, the Washington Times is reporting at least three league sources deny there has been any talk between the Wizards and Knicks that would involve Jeffries and Atkins for Richardson.
The trade is a no-brainer for the Knicks, but according to a source, the Wizards don't want to make it, the New York Daily News reports.

Arvydas Macijauskas
Hornets Macijauskas Not A Happy Hornet
Dec 15 - According to The Oklahoman, Arvydas Macijauskas, who has previously said he and the Hornets weren't a good fit, could be one of the Hornets who are dealt soon. "I don't want to talk a lot about (being traded)," Macijauskas said. "I said a couple of weeks ago I want to play or at least be active." Hornets GM Jeff Bower declined to talk about specific trade possibilities. But Bower did say that he didn't think interest in Macijausjas has diminished.

ShoogarBear
12-15-2005, 06:04 PM
Man, the best move for the Pacers long-term would be if they could swing a deal for Harrington (not that I'm especially crazy about him) and a first-round (read: high lottery) pick.

I don't think even the Hawks would be dumb enough to package JJ for Artest.