Spurs vs. Bucks Dec. 20th - Game Blog

[Manu20]

20.3 MIL - Full timeout (Timeout #8)
:20.3 SA - B. Udrih enters game for B. Barry
:20.3 SA - R. Horry hits the second free throw
:20.3 MIL - T. Ford enters game for J. Jackson
:20.3 SA - R. Nesterovic enters game for M. Finley
:20.3 SA - T. Parker enters game for N. Van Exel
:20.3 SA - R. Horry misses the first free throw
:20.3 MIL - J. Magloire enters game for J. Welsch
:20.3 MIL - Personal foul on M. Redd
:22.2 SA - N. Van Exel enters game for T. Parker

Spurs lead 107-105.

[Pistons < Spurs]

real score please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
what's the score now?
107-105 spurs 20.3 remaining

[kolko]

Defense!

[wildbill2u]

20.3 MIL - Full timeout (Timeout #8)
:20.3 SA - B. Udrih enters game for B. Barry
:20.3 SA - R. Horry hits the second free throw
:20.3 MIL - T. Ford enters game for J. Jackson
:20.3 SA - R. Nesterovic enters game for M. Finley
:20.3 SA - T. Parker enters game for N. Van Exel
:20.3 SA - R. Horry misses the first free throw

107-105

Beno, do something

[Supergirl]

20 seconds to box them out unless they want to play five minutes of OT without Timmy.

[Tobias]

fuuuck

[Nocioni]

0:00) [Mil 108-107] Williams jumpshot made (31 PTS)
Instant replay suport rulling

[manu]

please no fouling!!!! com on spurs!

[Admidave50]

game is TIED§

[wildbill2u]

Plays
:20.3 SA - M. Finley enters game for B. Udrih
:20.3 SA - B. Barry enters game for R. Horry
:20.3 MIL - Full timeout (Timeout #8)

WTF Coach Pop is substituting faster than the internet.

[FreshPrince22]

Big Shot Bogut
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[ducks]

:14.0 SA - 20 sec timeout
:14.0 MIL - A. Bogut offensive rebound
:14.0 MIL - Layup by A. Bogut
:14.9 MIL - M. Williams misses a layup
:20.3 MIL - T. Kukoc enters game for J. Magloire
:20.3 SA - M. Finley enters game for B. Udrih
:20.3 SA - B. Barry enters game for R. Horry

[Jimcs50]

Finley will win it.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Wow

[loveforthegame]

WTH happened? Yahoo was screwed up forever and then this board was having problems.

Bogut won it on a tipin? C'mon Spurs!!

And where was Finley tonight?

[Nocioni]

(0:00) [MIL 109-107] Bogut Jump Shot: Made (19 PTS) Assist: Kukoc (2 AST)
(0:00) [TBD] Instant Replay: Support Ruling

[boutons]

Bogut is clearly a winner, he won the game for them tonight with big-time crunch play after crunch play, nullifying Tim's 34 pts.

[tw05baller]

i knew it was over when the clock read .4 (even thought they changed it to .7)

[Supreme Allah]

Chea!!!!

[tw05baller]

damn it rasho you puss

[T Park]

that was interesting.

[SuperManu!!!]

It's official....we need Manu back...this last games were pathetic

[T Park]

damn it rasho you puss




He missed the final Spurs shot?

He took a pull up 3 pointer with 3 seconds left??

Oh right.

[infinite styles]

WTH happened?! Time Warner went out in my area and I missed the 4th through OT!!! FUUUUUUUUCCCCCKKKKK!!!!!

[boutons]

Rasho just watched Bogut catch the ball and put it in. Rasho didn't even go for the pass.

But lots of Spurs fucked up, Horry missing the FT,
Tim fouling out
spurs outhustled again on the boards
spurs blowng a 14 pt lead.

Spurs 4/16 on3Gs, and defense unable to stop the Bucks

[FreshPrince22]

Big Shot Bogut

Did I call it or what?
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[Spurs06]

Unbelievable.

[Nocioni]

(0:00) [MIL 109-107] Bogut Jump Shot: Made (19 PTS) Assist: Kukoc (2 AST)
(0:00) [TBD] Instant Replay: Support Ruling

[Kori Ellis]

The weirdest thing of all is it seemed like they drew up that play to be a 3 pointer for Tony. No one else was cutting or anything. Why would they draw that up? WTF?!

[boutons]

Pistons 3L
Spurs 6L

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

what the fuck is wrong with The Spurs....ok, I understand Manu is out but, Mike Finely is starting for him!!! MIke Finley! He was the man in Dallas for years until Dirk started taking 28 shots a night..........this sucks

[T Park]

Pistons 3L
Spurs 6L


and boutons celebrates and smiles and takes a swig o crown to celebrate.

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

the Spurs should be winning against these types of teams.....with the team they have they should be dominating

[Budkin]

Man that was a tough loss to swallow. We had that one... :depressed

[boutons]

So, will the Spurs make it 5 straight losses on second of B2Bs?

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

I guess they stopped playing defense this year....

[leemajors]

they should not be winning the way they are playing.

[td4mvp21]

Well Duncan did all he could. Are the dumb bitches that called him out gona shut their mouths now? He played awesome. You can think Popovich's not so brilliant play and Andrew Bogut for this loss. And failure in the clutch. Tim is the reason we got this far.

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

they should not be winning the way they are playing.


i agree.....but they totally shouldn't be playing the way they are

[T Park]

Fin didn't shoot the ball again after about the 7 minute mark of the 3rd quarter.

He wasn't too on anyways.

His first bad game in a LONG time, so no hate on Fin.


Horry making his FTs wouldve helped.

Foulin Duncan out is as laughable as it was the last time he did in Denver.

The Parker shot shows hes still inexperienced, and suprising it was a total clear out.

Oh and Im sure Rasho is the goat for the night, so Im ready for trade,cut,waive,kill Rasho threads.

Even though when in there he played quite well.

If Barry or parker could rebound, after NESTEROVIC forced a Mo Williams missed shot, its totallly different.

he didnt, they didnt, oh well, move on to the Knicks, and take a swig of eggnog, its christmas and its just a freakin basketball game.

[Viva Las Espuelas]

Did I call it or what?
christmas day, baby. christmas day. to me that's the first game of the season

[Budkin]

Tim was the man tonight. I just hope we can finally pull out a back to back against the lowly Knicks tomorrow. Tim is gonna be tired. When the hell is Manu coming back?

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

Well Duncan did all he could. Are the dumb bitches that called him out gona shut their mouths now? He played awesome. You can think Popovich's not so brilliant play and Andrew Bogut for this loss. And failure in the clutch. Tim is the reason we got this far.

Tim is everyting for The Spurs

[T Park]

You can think Popovich's not so brilliant play


lol yeah Pop was horrible on defensive rotations out to Mo Williams :rollin

[Kori Ellis]

The Parker shot shows hes still inexperienced, and suprising it was a total clear out

I don't know if it shows inexperience. It seems like that's what they drew up. If it was, then that's a mistake on the coaching staff.

I'm interested to know if that's NOT what was drawing up, then what was supposed to happen. No other Spurs player moved.

[tim_duncan_fan]

WE NEED MANU. Just 7 points from him tonight would have helped a lot.

Bummer: The Mavs will be tied with us after they win tonight. They're playing the lakers.

Bright spot: WE GOT TIM BACK!

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

I hope they still arn't playing like this for The Christmas Day Game....or it's gonna be bad for them

[T Park]

When the hell is Manu coming back?

supposedly friday or sunday.

preferably friday, so he could be in some kind of rythum sunday.

I doubt they win sunday though, cause the defense is December level and not april level.

Im sure the forum will explode after sunday's game if they lose.

[JamStone]

Yeah, you guys really appear to miss Ginobili. I hope he's back for Sunday's game. It will make that game a lot more exciting for both teams. Any word on if he'll be back?

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

I don't know if it shows inexperience. It seems like that's what they drew up. If it was, then that's a mistake on the coaching staff.

I'm interested to know if that's NOT what was drawing up, then what was supposed to happen. No other Spurs player moved.



i agree....parker for 3????

[T Park]

I don't know if it shows inexperience. It seems like that's what they drew up. If it was, then that's a mistake on the coaching staff.


Agreed.

Robert Horry should've been able to clank another wide open three.

I think Parker pulled up too early.

whoopdedarndoo.

[boutons]

I think very few people are expecting the Spurs to win Sunday, it's a matter of how badly the Pistons blow them out.

Manu won't be in game shape, even if he comes back the game before.

[sanman53]

at least Ford had 15 points! Yeah Vbookie!!!

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

tonight's game was just weird..

..i'm glad Timmy did well though

[sanman53]

i agree....parker for 3????

That was the same thing I was thinking, "PARKER and 3" on the same line on ESPN Gamecast. I thought gamecast was messing up!

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

They're gonna have to play perfect for them to win against the Pistons on X-Mas

[CharlieMac]

Tough loss.

I'd be suprised if Manu came back for the Detroit game.

[T Park]

it's a matter of how badly the Pistons blow them out.


So,

youve "Given up" on sunday already??


Hmmmmm.......

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

I think they'll pull it off against the Knicks with Timmy playing like he is.......hopefully

[Horry For 3!]

Bogut got away with so many push in the backs it was unbelievable. Refs defintely were one sided this game and gave it away to the Bucks.

[td4mvp21]

lol yeah Pop was horrible on defensive rotations out to Mo Williams :rollin

HAHA I meant the final play he drew up. :pctoss

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

who's winning against Dallas and L.A. ? I think they're playing....

[DieMrBond]

You guys should check out some of the posts on insidehoops - "Bogut owns Duncan" etc etc. Ill post some samples...

http://p089.ezboard.com/finsidehoopsfrm1.showMessage?topicID=64260.topic
" Damn...Duncan got the better stats, but the W is most important.
A @#%$ Aussie owns one of the NBAs last great players"

http://p089.ezboard.com/finsidehoopsfrm1.showMessageRange?topicID=64258.to pic&start=21&stop=40
" The Australian Sensation is here! And he's taking over the Virgin Islands."
"Duncan can pad his stats all he wants, but until he understands that winning is more important, he'll never be as good as Bogut."

[boutons]

sure, the Spurs fans have no reason to expect the Spurs to win Sunday.

and WGAF about December games anyway? win or loss, it's all bullshit, according to you.

[Kori Ellis]

until he understands that winning is more important, he'll never be as good as Bogut

:lmao

That's an awesome line.

Tim, the 3-time NBA Champion, doesn't understand about winning.

[Horry For 3!]

You guys should check out some of the posts on insidehoops - "Bogut owns Duncan" etc etc. Ill post some samples...

http://p089.ezboard.com/finsidehoopsfrm1.showMessage?topicID=64260.topic
" Damn...Duncan got the better stats, but the W is most important.
A @#%$ Aussie owns one of the NBAs last great players"

http://p089.ezboard.com/finsidehoopsfrm1.showMessageRange?topicID=64258.to pic&start=21&stop=40
" The Australian Sensation is here! And he's taking over the Virgin Islands."
"Duncan can pad his stats all he wants, but until he understands that winning is more important, he'll never be as good as Bogut."
Bogut owned many fouls that were not called. I swear every tip-in he got or rebound, he was pushing off on someone.

[T Park]

So Pop shouldnt have let the second best player on the night for the team shoot the ball??

That makes sense.

I agree.

Van Exel shouldve bricked another three, or maybe Horry couldve.

Barry couldve done his drive to the basket pass in mid air to someone who has to jack up a bad shot.


A clear out for Parker was a good call, if you dont think so, Id love to know what youd draw up.

Finley hadn't made a shot the whole second half, so that wouldve been 1 HELL of a gamble.

[Horry For 3!]

What really pissed me off was Bogut pushed off on Timmy. No call. Timmy pushed off on Bogut. Foul. LAME

[King]

Did Bogut's nose look like this giant pink bulbous thing to anyone else?

[boutons]

do you have internet access?

http://www.nba.com/games/20051220/scoreboard.html

[tim_duncan_fan]

I dont think I'll watch Sunday's game. We're going to get crushed.

[td4mvp21]

So Pop shouldnt have let the second best player on the night for the team shoot the ball??

That makes sense.

I agree.

Van Exel shouldve bricked another three, or maybe Horry couldve.

Barry couldve done his drive to the basket pass in mid air to someone who has to jack up a bad shot.


A clear out for Parker was a good call, if you dont think so, Id love to know what youd draw up.

Finley hadn't made a shot the whole second half, so that wouldve been 1 HELL of a gamble.

Yeah, but a freakin' three? Poor coaching decision on Pop's part.

[T Park]

and WGAF about December games anyway? win or loss, it's all bullshit, according to you.

They sure mattered last year, yup.....



Bogut owned many fouls that were not called. I swear every tip-in he got or rebound, he was pushing off on someone.

The one he DIDNT, was the one over Parker and Barry.

But, Bogut, if he doesn't have position, will push, or hold down his opponent to keep him from rebounding.

He did it to I think Mohammed or Rasho in the OT, where either one had a clear rebound.

Of course, that was where Williams got the board, and backed into Duncan for Duncan's 6th foul.

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

Bogut got away with so many push in the backs it was unbelievable. Refs defintely were one sided this game and gave it away to the Bucks.


yeah....you forgot to mention Bogut guarding Timmy with both elbows implanted in Tim's back....eek.....isn't that illegal?.....I remember Kevin Willis being called for doing that all the time...

[King]

You know - it IS possible that the opposition just plays lights out basketball once in awhile. Mo Williams was on fire. Bogut looked like a vet.

It's not always the Spurs choking or sucking it up. Yeah, they're good enough to win every game, but any team can beat any team at any time.

[leemajors]

i wish tim would ignore the refs sometimes, he disappeared in the 2nd, spending all his time complaining...

[FreshPrince22]

They're gonna have to play perfect for them to win against the Pistons on X-Mas

I doubt it. Rip landed on his shooting hand badly a few games ago, and ever since Mr. 51% FG has been bricking like crazy. Otherwise I would say yes (the Pistons should be pumped up).

Who knows, maybe they come out flat like they were all night tonight against the Blazers. Anything can happen.
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[T Park]

Yeah, but a freakin' three? Poor coaching decision on Pop's part.



You know for a fact, Pop told Parker to shoot a three?

Link to the press conference quote?

[Kori Ellis]

A clear out for Parker was a good call, if you dont think so, Id love to know what youd draw up.

A clear out for Parker where he drives to the basket would have been better IMO.

I'm still interested in knowing if it was drawn up as a 3 for Parker.

[td4mvp21]

You know for a fact, Pop told Parker to shoot a three?

Link to the press conference quote?

Well not for a fact, but Kori said that it looked that way. She knows her basketball. :lol

[leemajors]

kori is he the artest factor?

[exstatic]

Bad defensive set by the coaching staff. Without Tim in the game, you MUST play the out of bounds passer to prevent what ultimately happened. Hey, if they chuck it to a shooter and he hits one off a curl, I'm good with that. Lobbing a pass to the hoop is UNACCEPTABLE.

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

Losing Streak anyone?

I mean you are already on a losing streak(2)

But more losses are coming to you..including againt the hapless Raptors at home.


I hope not.....against The Raptors EWWWW!!!! that would be bad

[T Park]

You know - it IS possible that the opposition just plays lights out basketball once in awhile. Mo Williams was on fire. Bogut looked like a vet.

It's not always the Spurs choking or sucking it up. Yeah, they're good enough to win every game, but any team can beat any team at any time.

If Ginobili plays, this game is a 10 point win for the Spurs.

The Spurs miss his defense.

Bowen when swtiched to Williams guarded him fantastic, but then Redd gets a shot.

Switch to Redd then Williams would score.


Agreed, Williams won them this game.

Who was it, he nailed a last second 3 against to win the game at the buzzer??


Bucks are a hell of a good team.

But of course, the Spurs are supposed to go 82-0

[Horry For 3!]

A clear out for Parker where he drives to the basket would have been better IMO.

I'm still interested in knowing if it was drawn up as a 3 for Parker.
Yeah. That was a stupid play. Parker rarely shoots 3s and when he does, he hasn't made many. So I was wondering what tha hell he was doing shooting a 3 when he should of drove and shot it or passed it out for a wide open shot for NVE or Horry.

[T Park]

Bad defensive set by the coaching staff. Without Tim in the game, you MUST play the out of bounds passer to prevent what ultimately happened. Hey, if they chuck it to a shooter and he hits one off a curl, I'm good with that. Lobbing a pass to the hoop is UNACCEPTABLE


People never miss rotations and such??

Of course not...

[Spurs#20]

Don't worry people, Manu will play on Sunday and the spurs will win again
He is not going to miss that game for sure

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

Nice Choke Job..

Looking at the box score, this caught my eye:

Largest Leads: SAS by 14 / MIL by 6



eek! that hurts my eyes!

[T Park]

A clear out for Parker where he drives to the basket would have been better IMO.



agreed.

But, what im saying to all the other anus clenchers,

how do you even know what was drawn up??

Wait till you hear what was drawn up.

Shit, pop might tell the reporter who asks to go fuck himself.

[Kori Ellis]

The Spurs miss his defense.

Bowen when swtiched to Williams guarded him fantastic, but then Redd gets a shot.

Switch to Redd then Williams would score.

I agree. Bowen couldn't guard everyone. And they kept switching him from Redd to Simmons to Ford and even to Williams late. Today was a day they definitely missed Gino's D (as well as his offense). Hopefully he'll be healthy soon.

It was good to see Tim more aggressive today. But I'm going to guess that his foot his still bothering him a bit as there were some plays when he simply couldn't jump. Nazr had a good second half (a definite positive because he's been invisible for a few weeks).

It will be interesting to see how they come out against the Knicks tomorrow. I don't believe in "statement" games in December, but it's a "gut check" game to me.

[td4mvp21]

kori is he the artest factor?

NO I was going by something else she said.

[td4mvp21]

Not to mention that Duncan fouled out. You forgot that tiny little bit of information. Or did you not even check for that?

[dbreiden83080]

Our D just blows ass right now Timmy and Tony go for 56 points and we lose this is ridiculous. Spurs can not lose 3 in a row, i know they will be tired but they have to beat the bitch ass knicks tomorrow for god's sake.

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

Not to mention the Spurs up 107-105 with 20 seconds left in the game and allowing the Bucks to score the last 4 points...OUCH!


EWWW!!!! yeah.....weird game with not so good Spurs defense

[exstatic]

People never miss rotations and such??

Of course not...

That wasn't a missed rotation. Rasho has NO chance to get that pass. Kukoc is a hell of a passer, and if you don't bother him, he's going to MAKE that pass 99 times out of 100. Horry started to go play him, and was waved OFF. Good instincts, Rob. With 0.7, you must make that pass a bullseye. If he bobbles it, even for a split second, time's up. Pop made it easy for them.

[Budkin]

Nice Choke Job..

Kind of like you choking on your first team and having to puke up another one, Artest Factor.

[Marcus Bryant]

OMFG the Spurs lost! :wtf

Oh wait, it's December 20th. Who's up for some real egg nog? :drunk

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

Not to mention that Duncan fouled out. You forgot that tiny little bit of information. Or did you not even check for that?




that was the worst part :depressed :depressed

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

This team needs Manu soon. Finley's D isn't anywhere near Manu's, and in offense he makes things happen with his unpredictable style.

Waiting for the Manu's haters replies...3....2....1....

[Oh, Gee!!]

Godamm-piece-of-shit-mother-effing-refs

[T Park]

It will be interesting to see how they come out against the Knicks tomorrow. I don't believe in "statement" games in December, but it's a "gut check" game to me

If the team was 100% healthy, then yeah I could go for this.

But once again, this team was scrambling with lineups tonight.

This would bother me alot more, if Ginobili was playing.


Im slightly dissapointed in how Horry is playing though.

[CharlieMac]

I'd say that Detroit game is going to be more of a statement game. I'm not big on statement games in December either though.

[td4mvp21]

that was the worst part :depressed :depressed

Yeah but he did his best.

[T Park]

Finley's D isn't anywhere near Manu's

Of course it aint, hes a little older, and he was taught in a system, defense was a way to pass the time twiddling your thumbs waiting for the offensive sets.

He came from ALLAS. That should help you.

If he could start to play D like Barry has started to FINALLY this year, ill be happy.

But it takes time to beat into a player's head whos always been offense offense offense, that D is almost or more important.

[RogerIsEatingASandwich]

Yeah but he did his best.



Timmy was great

[Kori Ellis]

If the team was 100% healthy, then yeah I could go for this.

But once again, this team was scrambling with lineups tonight.

This would bother me alot more, if Ginobili was playing.


Im slightly dissapointed in how Horry is playing though.

Healthy or not, I think it's a gutcheck game. Remember last year in Golden State when Tim and Manu were out? That was a gutcheck game and Tony/The Spurs came thru. I think that needs to happen tomorrow just for the psychological factor of not losing three in a row.

[Oh, Gee!!]

I'd say that Detroit game is going to be more of a statement game. I'm not big on statement games in December either though.


don't say that, you'll jinx them. I'll be pissed if they they don't beat detroit

[angel_luv]

A clear out for Parker where he drives to the basket would have been better IMO.

I'm still interested in knowing if it was drawn up as a 3 for Parker.


From the "Ask the Coach Segment" I don't think that Tony shot was especially drawn up. Coach Newman said the objective was to get the last possession . From what I gathered the ball was in Tony's hand and it was up to him to find the best shot.

I think that shot was badly done by Tony. But there never should have been a game to save.

That was a heck of a past by Kukoc. Rasho missed the deflection but he was in a precarious position- a foul call would have sent Bogut to the line and the outcome may very well have been the same.

Unfortunate loss all around. But these things happen. Next!

[T Park]

From the "Ask the Coach Segment" I don't think that Tony shot was especially drawn up. Coach Newman said the objective was to get the last possession . From what I gathered the ball was in Tony's hand and it was up to him to find the best shot


It was exactly like i said.

Pop looked at Tony and said "win the game"

he took a bad shot.

He won games last year.

It happens. Its life, shit happens.

We move on.

Focus on the Knicks.

[Kori Ellis]

I have to believe that they drew up something in the huddle.

I'll still wait for judgement to see if Pop/Ludden/someone says it.

Either way, the game wasn't lost because of that last shot. It was lost because Mo Williams went off and a variety of other things.

Oh well.

More basketball tomorrow.

[T Park]

I have to believe that they drew up something in the huddle.



smiley face

dinner menu on the plane

ugly face of the slick haired ref who fouled Duncan out?

All of the above??

It is a big clipboard.

[E20]

Next VBookie;
Will the Spurs beat the Knicks?

[TDMVPDPOY]

wtf was horry doin standin with his back towards the in-game passer, shouldnt he be in the paint :(, anyway im done for tonite and not goin to worry about the knicks game since we are goin to lose it anyway.

[T Park]

not goin to worry about the knicks game since we are goin to lose it anyway.

Way to hang in there.


What, no smart ass "Kidd wouldve made that three" comments?

[Oh, Gee!!]

wtf was horry doin standin with his back towards the in-game passer, shouldnt he be in the paint :(, anyway im done for tonite and not goin to worry about the knicks game since we are goin to lose it anyway.


I don't like you

[T Park]

lol

susinct and to the point.

Grammar police, buzz off, im not using the dictionary no matter WHAT you want.

[itzsoweezee]

just like to point out once again that rasho is GARBAGE. i don't ever want to hear about how rasho's defense is better than nazr's. rasho has no place starting on this team.

[Vashner]

ouch...

[GoSpurs21]

hey Marcus, Kori and TiMVP where the fuck is your boy Nick Van Exel???
4-11 in 21 mins tonight
0-5 in 12 mins against NOK
1-3 in 10 mins against Sac
1-6 in 12 mins against Minni

old and washed up
I said it before I'll say it again Nick needs to be saved for the playoffs
free Beno...at least he isnt over the hill
I can stand the losses but I cant stand the repeats of playing over the hill players like in 2001 and 2002 Terry Porter all over again

[T Park]

GoSpurs.

Chill out.

[GoSpurs21]

GoSpurs.

Chill out.you were willing to quit on the Spurs during the finals last year. I am pissed that Pop is delaying Beno's progress in favor of playing a washed up NVE. I dont give a shit about losses in Dec, but NVE sucks ass and Beno's development is getting stunted becuase Pop is again playing old ass players. It kinda remindes me of Pop staying with Terry Porter and costing us at least a game in the 2001 WCFs

[T Park]

And played Porter instead of what young player in 01?

and what does me willing to quit on the Spurs have to do with NVE?


Bring it or stay on the porch puppy.

[GoSpurs21]

And played Porter instead of what young player in 01?

and what does me willing to quit on the Spurs have to do with NVE?


Bring it or stay on the porch puppy.Instead of playing the younger players and saving Porter for the playoffs numbnuts...like what he does with the best players on the team for the last 3 years. It seems like Pop wants to resort to the Pop of 2001 and 2002 for some weird reason. Why is it so important that people dont want Beno to build on what he did last season? Can you really believe the bullshit press that Beno sucked in the playoffs last season? Go back to the video idiots, Beno played great against Denver, Seattle and Phoenix, so he got beat up a little against the Pistons, so the fuck what. The Spurs dont play the Pistons every fucking night.

If Beno really sucked dont you think the Spurs would have traded his ass. You assholes are such ESPN ball suckers. Always going for the ESPN highlights from 10 years ago instead of watching what is really in front of your eyes.

The Spurs won a championship with Beno at the back up point guard and havent won shit with NVE, but some act like NVE should be the starting PG, fuck you. Why are you so against developing the YOUNG talent, it seems to have worked pretty good for the Spurs so far

[T Park]

Im speachless at the level of stupidity this person has displayed.

[GoSpurs21]

Im speachless at the level of stupidity this person has displayed.does anyone really give a shit about your opinion quitter

I guess you agree that the Spurs should not develop Beno...I guess thats what youre really saying. While I dont believe it could hurt the Spurs (to develop Beno) I do believe it hurts the Spurs to play older washed up PG in NVE

[RashoFan]

just like to point out once again that rasho is GARBAGE. i don't ever want to hear about how rasho's defense is better than nazr's. rasho has no place starting on this team.
Congrats!!! You have been selected to receive this token of appreciation from members of The Slovenian Marfia...aka Proud Member of the Brotherhood of Rasho and Beno. Here you go................ :cuss :flipoff :idiot :stfu




:lol sorry nothing personal, We take care of our Guys......LOVE TO THE OCHO!!!!!!!!!

[T Park]

does anyone really give a shit about your opinion quitter


Actually yeah,

I outrank you here son, so STFU.


I guess you agree that the Spurs should not develop Beno

This is the pros, not the minor leagues.

If he couldn't develp over the summer to grow a pair vs a full court press he never will.

Now get new material retard.

[E20]

Pretty fun night, but now it's time to hit the hay.

[Oh, Gee!!]

Im speachless at the level of stupidity this person has displayed.

speachless?

[GoSpurs21]

Actually yeah,

I outrank you here son, so STFU.



This is the pros, not the minor leagues.

If he couldn't develp over the summer to grow a pair vs a full court press he never will.

Now get new material retard.

[GoSpurs21]

Actually yeah,

I outrank you here son, so STFU.



This is the pros, not the minor leagues.

If he couldn't develp over the summer to grow a pair vs a full court press he never will.

Now get new material retard.how do you outrank me by being more of a jackass? Fan since 77, season ticket holder since 92, beat that.

the regular season is for development, numbnuts the playoffs is the real season. I guess since you havent realized that you outrank no-one

oh wait you have more post on this forum...you must be more of a fan, but then I attended games 6 and 7 of the finals last year while you quit after game 4

why is it so hard to understand that we should be playing young legs against young legs in the regulars season?

please someone explain to me how it HURTS the Spurs to develop young energentic players in our system in games (that dont mean much, like losses)

[SequSpur]

This game was lost because Rasho is a piece of shit. Duncan has his head up his ass. Pop has to much talent that he can't even decide who the fuck should be out there....

I swear, if I see fucking Beno in one more game, I am going to go off on Pop during the next Pop Show.

2 peas in a pod. Rasho and Beno fucking blow. Both of them, its in their blood, they are shitty and don't belong in black and silver.

If I owned this team, I would boot their asses with pay back to their country tomorrow.

Beno and Rasho wearing a Spurs jersey is more offensive than anything TO did to the Eagles...

They are just down right pieces of shit players.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lmao sequspur,

duncan needs to cut that hair of his, its a fuckn jinx

[polandprzem]

I think Pop gives more minutes to Nick because he wants to put his into the spurs system. And I think Beno will have more plying time In the second part of the season.

[howard2]

Espn.com
Dec 20, 2005
Link: Espn (No. 1 overall pick forces OT en route to scoring game-winner)

No. 1 overall pick forces OT en route to scoring game-winner
Andrew Bogut had the biggest moment of his NBA career.

The No. 1 pick in the 2005 draft made a fadeaway jumper as time expired to give the Milwaukee Bucks a 109-107 overtime victory over the San Antonio Spurs on Tuesday night.

Bogut also scored the tying basket with 14 seconds left in overtime and finished with 19 points, including five in overtime. He added nine rebounds, seven offensive, and two blocked shots.

"I've never had a buzzer-beating game-winner, but to do it in the NBA against the world champions is a great feeling," Bogut said. "The guy I've always looked up to is Tim Duncan. So, to do this against his team is a great feeling for me."

Maurice Williams scored 28 points and Michael Redd added 20 for the Bucks, who had lost six of their last seven games against the Spurs.

Duncan had a season-high 34 points on 15-of-28 shooting and grabbed 13 rebounds before fouling out with 22 seconds left in overtime. Tony Parker added 22 points and Nazr Mohammed 11 in the defending champion Spurs' second straight loss.

Duncan, a two-time MVP, scored 11 points against New Orleans on Sunday, but made his first six shots Tuesday. He had 18 points in the first half, helping the Spurs build a 14-point lead late in the second quarter.

"Once he was gone, the guys didn't really flow in their offense as much," Bogut said. "There was a lot of pressure on Parker and (Robert) Horry and those guys, and that really helped us."

San Antonio has dropped three of its last four on the road after losing just two of its first nine away from the SBC Center.

The Spurs took a four-point lead early in overtime, but Williams' free throw after Duncan fouled out cut it to 106-105. Horry gave the Spurs a two-point lead with one free throw with 20 seconds left before the Bucks tied it at 107 on Bogut's follow shot 6 seconds later.

"Andrew Bogut hurt us more than anybody did," Spurs coach Gregg Popovich said. "He consistently went to the offensive boards and converted. He made a good physical play at the end and won the game for them."

Parker worked the clock and took a 3-pointer that bounced over the backboard, giving the Bucks the ball with 0.7 seconds left. After a Bucks timeout, Toni Kukoc inbounded to Bogut, who caught the long pass and scored as time expired. A review of the play showed the basket was good.

"He did a great job on the offensive glass, made some big baskets for them and showed some great touch right around the basket," Duncan said of Bogut.

Asked if the winning play had a name, Bogut said that it was just something first-year coach Terry Stotts drew up during the timeout.

"It's not one of those plays you can't really practice," Bogut said. "It just worked out."

Duncan tied the game at 100 with a 5-foot hook shot with 9.3 seconds left in regulation. The Bucks called time and Redd inbounded to Williams, who worked the clock down and missed from the top of the key, sending the game into overtime.

The game featured two first-round picks facing each other for the second time.

Bogut, from Melbourne, Australia, and Duncan, the No. 1 pick in the 1997 NBA draft, played against each other in the 2004 Olympics in Athens. Bogut's Australian team led the United States before the Americans outscored Australia 24-12 in the fourth quarter and won 89-79.

Game notes
Spurs F Bruce Bowen set the Spurs' career record for consecutive games played at 297 when he started against the Bucks. He had been tied with Avery Johnson. ...

Bucks F Bobby Simmons returned after missing four games with a right shoulder contusion. ... "Nick, I heard you the first time," referee Bob Delaney told the Spurs Nick Van Exel who went to the bench after being called for his second foul. ... The Bucks improved to 12-1 when scoring 100 or more points.