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T Park
01-05-2006, 02:02 AM
1. Houston Texans (2-14): +Reggie Bush, RB, USC
2. New Orleans Saints (3-13): Matt Leinart, QB, USC
3. Tennessee Titans (4-12): D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia
4. New York Jets (4-12): +Vince Young, QB, Texas
5. Green Bay Packers (4-12): A.J. Hawk, OLB, Ohio State
6. x-Oakland Raiders (4-12): Demeco Ryans, OLB, Alabama
7. x-San Francisco 49ers (4-12): Jimmy Williams, DC, Virginia Tech
8. Buffalo Bills (5-11): +Haloti Ngata, NT, Oregon
9. Detroit Lions (5-11): Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
10. Arizona Cardinals (5-11): +Mario Williams, DE, N.C. State
11. St. Louis Rams (6-10): +Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland
12. Cleveland Browns (6-10): Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College
13. Baltimore Ravens (6-10): DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
14. Philadelphia Eagles (6-10): +Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State
15. Atlanta Falcons (8-: Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa
16. Miami Dolphins (9-7): Michael Huff, DB, Texas
17. Minnesota Vikings (9-7): +Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
18. Dallas Cowboys (9-7): Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona State
19. San Diego Chargers (9-7): Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn
20. Kansas City Chiefs (10-6): Orien Harris, DT, Miami-Fla.
21. *-New England Patriots (10-6): Paul Posluszny, OLB, Penn State
22. *-Denver Broncos (10-6): Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State
Pick acquired from Washington Redskins
23. *-Carolina Panthers (11-5): Claude Wroten, DT, LSU
24. *-Tampa Bay Buccaneers (11-5): +Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
25. *-Chicago Bears (11-5): Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA
26. *-Cincinnati Bengals (11-5): Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida State
27. *-New York Giants (11-5): Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami-Fla.
28. *-Pittsburgh Steelers (11-5): +LenDale White, RB, USC
29. *-Jacksonville Jaguars (12-4): Elvis Dumervil, DE, Louisville
30. *-Seattle Seahawks (13-3): Thomas Howard, OLB, UTEP
31. *-Denver Broncos (13-3): +Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia
32. *-Indianapolis Colts (14-2): Eric Winston, OT, Miami-Fla.



If my Rams select a goddamn TE with the first pick.

Ill throw my Torry Holt jersey out the goddamn window.

First pick. Defense.
Second pick, DEFENSE!!!

:pctoss

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
01-05-2006, 02:08 AM
I hope Huff falls to the cowboys. They need the help in the secondary

Horry For 3!
01-05-2006, 02:25 AM
David Thomas really got his stock up after tonight's game. He was the go to guy for Vince and I don't think he dropped a ball that went his way.

Horry For 3!
01-05-2006, 02:28 AM
4. New York Jets (4-12): +Vince Young, QB, Texas :pctoss

IF Vince comes out, the only teams I want him on are Texans, Saints or Cowboys.

cecil collins
01-05-2006, 02:32 AM
David Thomas really got his stock up after tonight's game. He was the go to guy for Vince and I don't think he dropped a ball that went his way.
I heard him being talked about in an H back role in the NFL. I guess he'll go in the second round and fill a Chris Cooley type role.

nickbroken
01-05-2006, 02:51 AM
I can't see the Eagles drafting a wideout,It will either be a DT or a LB with their first pick, since that's really our greatest need, I'm sure they will address wifeout in FA.

Horry For 3!
01-05-2006, 03:23 AM
I heard him being talked about in an H back role in the NFL. I guess he'll go in the second round and fill a Chris Cooley type role.
Yeah, he'll be in the 2nd round, if he goes later, it will be a steal for someone.

vincerodriguez23
01-05-2006, 05:13 AM
4. New York Jets (4-12): +Vince Young, QB, Texas :pctoss

IF Vince comes out, the only teams I want him on are Texans, Saints or Cowboys.

i think after the rose bowl, the saints are gonna want Vince rather than Matt thats if Vince comes out

Phenomanul
01-05-2006, 08:56 AM
Do Mike Williams' (USC) rights belong to someone already or is he eligible for this draft????

Guru of Nothing
01-05-2006, 09:29 AM
Do Mike Williams' (USC) rights belong to someone already or is he eligible for this draft????

This guy is ineligible for this year's draft ...

http://www.detroitlions.com/photos/88_Body_0429.jpg

Guru of Nothing
01-05-2006, 09:38 AM
1. Houston Texans (2-14): +Reggie Bush, RB, USC
2. New Orleans Saints (3-13): Matt Leinart, QB, USC
3. Tennessee Titans (4-12): D'Brickashaw Ferguson, OT, Virginia
4. New York Jets (4-12): +Vince Young, QB, Texas
5. Green Bay Packers (4-12): A.J. Hawk, OLB, Ohio State
6. x-Oakland Raiders (4-12): Demeco Ryans, OLB, Alabama
7. x-San Francisco 49ers (4-12): Jimmy Williams, DC, Virginia Tech
8. Buffalo Bills (5-11): +Haloti Ngata, NT, Oregon
9. Detroit Lions (5-11): Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt
10. Arizona Cardinals (5-11): +Mario Williams, DE, N.C. State
11. St. Louis Rams (6-10): +Vernon Davis, TE, Maryland
12. Cleveland Browns (6-10): Mathias Kiwanuka, DE, Boston College
13. Baltimore Ravens (6-10): DeAngelo Williams, RB, Memphis
14. Philadelphia Eagles (6-10): +Santonio Holmes, WR, Ohio State
15. Atlanta Falcons (8-: Chad Greenway, OLB, Iowa
16. Miami Dolphins (9-7): Michael Huff, DB, Texas
17. Minnesota Vikings (9-7): +Laurence Maroney, RB, Minnesota
18. Dallas Cowboys (9-7): Derek Hagan, WR, Arizona State
19. San Diego Chargers (9-7): Marcus McNeill, OT, Auburn
20. Kansas City Chiefs (10-6): Orien Harris, DT, Miami-Fla.
21. *-New England Patriots (10-6): Paul Posluszny, OLB, Penn State
22. *-Denver Broncos (10-6): Tamba Hali, DE, Penn State
Pick acquired from Washington Redskins
23. *-Carolina Panthers (11-5): Claude Wroten, DT, LSU
24. *-Tampa Bay Buccaneers (11-5): +Gaines Adams, DE, Clemson
25. *-Chicago Bears (11-5): Marcedes Lewis, TE, UCLA
26. *-Cincinnati Bengals (11-5): Brodrick Bunkley, DT, Florida State
27. *-New York Giants (11-5): Sinorice Moss, WR, Miami-Fla.
28. *-Pittsburgh Steelers (11-5): +LenDale White, RB, USC
29. *-Jacksonville Jaguars (12-4): Elvis Dumervil, DE, Louisville
30. *-Seattle Seahawks (13-3): Thomas Howard, OLB, UTEP
31. *-Denver Broncos (13-3): +Leonard Pope, TE, Georgia
32. *-Indianapolis Colts (14-2): Eric Winston, OT, Miami-Fla.



If my Rams select a goddamn TE with the first pick.

Ill throw my Torry Holt jersey out the goddamn window.

First pick. Defense.
Second pick, DEFENSE!!!

:pctoss

The Texans will trade down and take D'Brickashaw Ferguson.

Deangelo Williams to Baltimore does not make a lot of sense to me.

I think Mercedes Lewis will be the first TE selected.

Lendale White to the Steelers would be sick.

TheTruth
01-05-2006, 10:09 AM
Gotta love finishing 13-3 and then having two picks in the first round the draft after.

Broncos best go after a WR and DE in the First.

FromWayDowntown
01-05-2006, 11:39 AM
The Texans will trade down and take D'Brickashaw Ferguson.

Unless they think Reggie Bush is a franchise changer ala Tim Duncan, or if they think Ferguson is the best of a weak class of fat guys, I'd think that would be the wiser move for the Texans. They need serious o-line help and Feguson seems like an answer. They need a lot of players, so if they could trade down, get Ferguson and get another pick, it would be a step in the right direction for them.

Casserly, however, will take Bush.

Horry For 3!
01-05-2006, 02:39 PM
The Texans will trade down and take D'Brickashaw Ferguson.

Deangelo Williams to Baltimore does not make a lot of sense to me.

I think Mercedes Lewis will be the first TE selected.

Lendale White to the Steelers would be sick.
I have seen many Mock Drafts and they all have LenDale going to the Steelers. They will be missing Bettis after he retires.

Mr Dio
01-05-2006, 02:53 PM
Gotta love finishing 13-3 and then having two picks in the first round the draft after.

Broncos best go after a WR and DE in the First.


Denver should package the picks to move up & draft a RB. :lol

Louae
01-05-2006, 03:30 PM
I hope Huff falls to the cowboys. They need the help in the secondary

we need some help on the offensive line. the secondary is fine.

FromWayDowntown
01-05-2006, 03:47 PM
we need some help on the offensive line. the secondary is fine.

I think Dallas is at least one corner short in its secondary and could use a better free safety. Parcells seemed to understand the lack of a quality free safety because he approached Darren Woodson about a return had the Cowboys made the playoffs. I love Darren Woodson as a football player, but when you're approaching a retired strong safety and suggesting that he play free safety in a playoff run, you've got a problem at that position.

Keith Davis is undisciplined in coverage and is a poor tackler, both of which are bad things for a free safety.

It depends on how fast he truly is, but Michael Huff is the sort of ball hawking tackler that teams like to have at either safety spot. He's a bad fit in Dallas if he's more like a Roy Williams clone than a smaller, faster free safety type. But with that said, I think finding a free safety should be a significant priority for the Cowboys this offseason.

ABDENOUR POWER
01-05-2006, 03:59 PM
1. Houston Texans (2-14): +Reggie Bush, RB, USC
9. Detroit Lions (5-11): Jay Cutler, QB, Vanderbilt


Nooooooooooo.

Ballcox
01-05-2006, 05:38 PM
^ Most NFL guys have Huff projected as a CB at the in the NFL, he's a great tackler, but not quite big enough for SS/FS in the NFL.

Phenomanul
01-05-2006, 05:59 PM
This guy is ineligible for this year's draft ...

http://www.detroitlions.com/photos/88_Body_0429.jpg


Did he play this year????

Guru of Nothing
01-05-2006, 06:03 PM
Did he play this year????

Yes he did.

Mike Williams (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/7186)

tlongII
01-05-2006, 07:43 PM
lendale white is going to be a better pro than leinart or bush.



BOOK IT.

I think this could be true. I depends on Bush's durability.

scott
01-05-2006, 08:08 PM
This is what is called a terrible mock draft.

N.Y. Johnny
01-05-2006, 08:10 PM
If Young comes out for the NFL Draft the Jets will absolutely make a play for him and they're getting extra Draft picks from the Chiefs now since Herman Edwards seems gone to KC to use for possibly trading up in the draft. I Wish this mock draft was accurate as a Jets fan...damn after watching Young last night that would be amazing to see him torment the rest of the AFC East for years to come

N.Y. Johnny
01-05-2006, 08:12 PM
This is what is called a terrible mock draft.


This is true too :lol

seeing a 'Vince Young" fall down to 4 probably won't happen like that, not after the game he had last night.

If the NY Jets got Vince Young I think i'd fuckin die. :smokin

Supreme Allah
01-05-2006, 08:18 PM
bush WANTS to play for the jets lolololol


reggie bush has troubles carrying the ball 15-20 times a game IN COLLEGE

he won't last in nfl as an everydown back...maybe put him in the slot and shit

No he doesnt.

N.Y. Johnny
01-05-2006, 08:33 PM
we will never know what he meant pimpo

Dre_7
01-05-2006, 08:36 PM
bush WANTS to play for the jets lolololol


reggie bush has troubles carrying the ball 15-20 times a game IN COLLEGE

he won't last in nfl as an everydown back...maybe put him in the slot and shit

So if you had a team that needed a RB and both Bush and White were available, you would take White??

infinite styles
01-05-2006, 10:23 PM
Anyway Cowboys could trade up and get Young?! :angel :smokin

Supreme Allah
01-06-2006, 04:13 PM
hmm someone not be watching usc all year?

Just because he doesnt get the ball every down doesnt mean he cant do it. The guy never takes a direct hit anyways.

Guru of Nothing
01-06-2006, 06:28 PM
Hey Wisconsin homers (all two of yous), what can you tell me about Jonathan Orr, WR Wisconsin. I have not seen him play.

I see on a scouting report that he is fast (6'2", 195#, 4.35 40yd). Looks like he could be quite a player.
He has the explosive burst and ball adjustment skills of a Lee Evans and the size, athletic ability and toughness catching the ball in traffic of a Chris Chambers.

The biggest knock on him I see is the poor QB play at Wisconsin.
218 of 302 incomplete passes the last two years were either over- or under-thrown.

Supreme Allah
01-06-2006, 06:54 PM
Hey Wisconsin homers (all two of yous), what can you tell me about Jonathan Orr, WR Wisconsin. I have not seen him play.

I see on a scouting report that he is fast (6'2", 195#, 4.35 40yd). Looks like he could be quite a player.

The biggest knock on him I see is the poor QB play at Wisconsin.

Orr is an amazing player. He is fast, and can run routes very well. I think hes going to be one of those guys that kinda goes under the radar in the draft and than has very productive carreer. He isnt much of a gamebreaker like Evans was but he will get the job done.

Supreme Allah
01-06-2006, 06:54 PM
oh, and where did you read that scouting report on him?

Guru of Nothing
01-06-2006, 07:29 PM
oh, and where did you read that scouting report on him?

nfldraftscout.com.

It's subscription material ($24.95), but if you want more details on Orr, just PM me.

ETA: Orr is presently ranked 21st on their top 100 list, but the list does not yet include underclassmen such as Reggie Bush.

T Park
01-07-2006, 02:11 AM
RIght now, If I were the Texans, Id trade with the Jets.

Select the OL Ferguson.

Build that O line up, and work on the D, maybe sign a good second WR to compliment Andre Johnson.

Mark my words.

Give Carr some time to throw the football, and the offense comes together.

Horry For 3!
01-08-2006, 06:02 PM
This Mock Draft seems pretty right....

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

Johnny_Blaze_47
01-08-2006, 06:47 PM
Anybody seeing any scouting reports on Barrick Nealy and whether or not he'll be converted to a WR?

Mr Dio
01-08-2006, 06:50 PM
RIght now, If I were the Texans, Id trade with the Jets.

Select the OL Ferguson.

Build that O line up, and work on the D, maybe sign a good second WR to compliment Andre Johnson.

Mark my words.

Give Carr some time to throw the football, and the offense comes together.

VY has a good chance to do better than Carr behind that line. If the line is improved than any QB would be better off, not just Carr. Don't get me wrong, I like the Texans' chances with a good line & Carr BUT I think VY & Davis would be better in the long run. VY could escape many of the sacks that Carr has had to endure & even possibly turn them into gains.

Horry For 3!
01-08-2006, 06:54 PM
Anybody seeing any scouting reports on Barrick Nealy and whether or not he'll be converted to a WR?
I haven't looked for any. I'll check it out....

Horry For 3!
01-08-2006, 06:59 PM
http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/scoutingreports/qb/barricknealy.html

Says...coming soon

scott
01-08-2006, 07:43 PM
Anybody seeing any scouting reports on Barrick Nealy and whether or not he'll be converted to a WR?

Mel Kiper had him rated as the #5 Sr. QB

scott
01-08-2006, 07:48 PM
This Mock Draft seems pretty right....

http://www.nfldraftcountdown.com/sub/mockdraft.html

Pretty good near the top... a coupe of questionable projections...

the Niners are very unlikely to take a TE @ #7. They have Eric Johnson coming off injury, and Vernon Davis isn't even the consensus #1 TE in this draft (Mercedes Lewis may be). Neither is worth a top 10 pick.

While the Cards run game was terrible this year, I'm not sure they are ready to invest a top 10 pick in another RB. They are pretty high on JJ Arrington, despite his lack of production this year. Maybe OL here?

Seems a little high for Michael Huff. Closer to #20 (around where Dallas picks) seems more likely for him.

If Chad Greenway falls to #14, it will surprise me. If the Eagles draft him, I'll be pissed!

Horry For 3!
01-08-2006, 07:58 PM
Pretty good near the top... a coupe of questionable projections...

the Niners are very unlikely to take a TE @ #7. They have Eric Johnson coming off injury, and Vernon Davis isn't even the consensus #1 TE in this draft (Mercedes Lewis may be). Neither is worth a top 10 pick.

While the Cards run game was terrible this year, I'm not sure they are ready to invest a top 10 pick in another RB. They are pretty high on JJ Arrington, despite his lack of production this year. Maybe OL here?

Seems a little high for Michael Huff. Closer to #20 (around where Dallas picks) seems more likely for him.

If Chad Greenway falls to #14, it will surprise me. If the Eagles draft him, I'll be pissed!
Yeah, that is what I meant as top selections.

scott
01-08-2006, 08:00 PM
Oh yeah, not meaning to knock on you saying it was a good one... they are all a crap shoot at 1 day out let alone 4 months. Ripping mock's apart is the whole fun of it!

Horry For 3!
01-08-2006, 08:02 PM
I was suprised not seeing Rod Wright on it.

Rummpd
01-08-2006, 08:23 PM
Tn will take Young with McNair mentoring him and then watch out NFL in a few years.

Horry For 3!
01-08-2006, 08:27 PM
Tn will take Young with McNair mentoring him and then watch out NFL in a few years.
That would be awesome because I like the Titans. Cowboys/Titans are my fav teams.

I am pretty sure they will take Vince if Saints don't. Then Vince will sit for like a year or 2. More likely sit for a year then play.

scott
01-08-2006, 08:57 PM
Me too on Rod Wright - I think he should go somewhere in the bottom half of round 1. With a good workout, he could push towards #10 or so.

midgetonadonkey
01-08-2006, 09:34 PM
That would be awesome because I like the Titans. Cowboys/Titans are my fav teams.

I am pretty sure they will take Vince if Saints don't. Then Vince will sit for like a year or 2. More likely sit for a year then play.

If the Titans do with Young what the Oilers did with McNair, meaning sit him for almost 2 seasons, he will be a solid NFL QB. They just have to work on his throwing motion and arm strength. If they throw him right in, I'm afraid he may end up being another Ryan Leaf.

coachtf
01-09-2006, 04:15 AM
There will be alot of teams trying to trade up this year. Maybe more activity than has been seen in a long, long time. This draft is not very deep in alot of the skilled positions past round three and four but there is value in the later rounds with guys who have decent numbers.

Some of the big O-line guys coming out this year could make a splash early if put with the right staff who keep them in check. The big OT-McNeil from Auburn (6'9-342lb.) is a beast who has at times dominated. He will lose focus and frustrate you but he will not go down without a fight.

Wallace ²
01-09-2006, 02:01 PM
The Lions dont need to take a QB. They need some OL. Everybody here thought Joey was the problem and Garthia was going to fix it. But Garthia proved that the Lions QB will only be as good as the OL.

Think back to last season, Kevin Jones was probably the best back in the league for the last 8 weeks of the season. This year he sucked because he didnt have an OL to open up any holes. If the Lions do take a QB, it should be in the late rounds. They can not waste another top pick on an offensive skill position player.

Guru of Nothing
01-09-2006, 11:14 PM
Think back to last season, Kevin Jones was probably the best back in the league for the last 8 weeks of the season. This year he sucked because he didnt have an OL to open up any holes.

I think Mooch's man love for Shawn Bryson had a little to do with it too.

Sincerely, bitter fantasy football player

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
01-10-2006, 12:41 AM
I think Mooch's man love for Shawn Bryson had a little to do with it too.

Sincerely, bitter fantasy football player

What, you don't like the Bryson draw play on 3rd and long? It was a staple of the 2005 Lions O...

Santonio Holmes is the guy I want...

58 years and counting baby!!!!!!!!

Rescueone
01-10-2006, 04:12 PM
What, you don't like the Bryson draw play on 3rd and long? It was a staple of the 2005 Lions O...

Santonio Holmes is the guy I want...

58 years and counting baby!!!!!!!!


It wouldn't suprise me if the Lions took Holmes with their first pick. I wouldn't put it past them. Then they would say he was the "Best Available player left on the board" BS draft a OL, a new QB or LB. Jay cutler, A.J. Hawk are my first choices.