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SouthernFried
01-14-2006, 07:34 AM
Seems our offensive sets are pretty limited. Pass to Timmy, Parker 1 on 1, Manu 1 on 1, mebbe a high pick for Tony or Manu...with everyone else standing around watching. Very little movement or inside screens and picks...all leading to very few assists.

At times we just seem lost on offense...and just hoping Manu, Tim, Tony does something 1 on 1.

We've focused so long, and so hard on Defense...seems we need to spend a little more time on Offense. I've said it earlier, guys like Finley, who everyone knows can shoot...seems to have no plays set for him to get an open shot. Just a pass to him on the wing and "ok, now do something." Then yelling at him cuz he ain't scoring. Finley ain't a 1 on 1 scorer, he's a catch and shoot player...like Rip.

We rely on Team Defense to defend...but, 1 on 1 offense to score.

Watching Detroit, and especially how they the work together on offense to score (watch RIP)...makes me think we could do more of that. We play team defense. Mebbe it's time for that mentality..on the offensive side as well.

dn0
01-14-2006, 12:41 PM
Good luck, we are talking about P_P.

ALVAREZ6
01-14-2006, 12:43 PM
pop blows.

TwoHandJam
01-14-2006, 12:59 PM
Seems our offensive sets are pretty limited. Pass to Timmy, Parker 1 on 1, Manu 1 on 1, mebbe a high pick for Tony or Manu...with everyone else standing around watching. Very little movement or inside screens and picks...all leading to very few assists.

At times we just seem lost on offense...and just hoping Manu, Tim, Tony does something 1 on 1.

We've focused so long, and so hard on Defense...seems we need to spend a little more time on Offense. I've said it earlier, guys like Finley, who everyone knows can shoot...seems to have no plays set for him to get an open shot. Just a pass to him on the wing and "ok, now do something." Then yelling at him cuz he ain't scoring. Finley ain't a 1 on 1 scorer, he's a catch and shoot player...like Rip.

We rely on Team Defense to defend...but, 1 on 1 offense to score.

Watching Detroit, and especially how they the work together on offense to score (watch RIP)...makes me think we could do more of that. We play team defense. Mebbe it's time for that mentality..on the offensive side as well.I agree with what you say about Finley and it really eludes me to why the coaching staff doesn't try and set screens to free him up for shots - the guy has a great jumper.

I don't hold out much hope for change though because it's the same thing that was done to Barry last year. Throw him the ball, hang him out to dry and then complain that he's giving us nothing. Both these guys are great shooters but they can't create. Why we don't run plays suited to their game when we want to get them open is a mystery to me.

Aggie Hoopsfan
01-14-2006, 01:14 PM
I agree with what you say about Finley and it really eludes me to why the coaching staff doesn't try and set screens to free him up for shots - the guy has a great jumper.

My offense is set up for the big three. Anyone else should be happy with the scraps they get, no matter how easy it is for teams to game plan to defend three plays (like the Pistons showed twice this year already) [/P_p]

boutons_
01-14-2006, 01:15 PM
I think plenty of open shots come to Brent and Michael when swinging the ball around, when a play breaks down, a driver kicks it out, etc. It's not like every team in the NBA plays defense, and certainly not shut-down defense on the perimeter, or keying on defending Brent and Michael specifically.

Those two just aren't hitting their shots, plays or no plays. They are both shooting as Spurs about 5% under their career FG%, which is a huge dropoff.

Same thing happened to Hedo. His Spur FG% dipped vs before/after the Spurs.

Why is jumpshooting such a difficult chore for some Spurs guards and forwards, esp with Tim supposedly drawing defenders in the from perimeter?

GoSpurs21
01-14-2006, 01:23 PM
hard to focus on the O when the D still sucks so much. and that has to do with none of the Spurs players not committing to actually playing defense then it does with the coaching staff.

Spurs big three are coasting (as they should so they are fresh for the playoffs), its time for the lame ass new guys to start picking up the slack. To date Nazr, Brent, Michael and Nick have been totally useless when it comes to picking up slack. They need to improve their defensive game and get with the program or the Spurs will not make it to the finals this year.

And it would be nice if they could hit some timely shots. And for Brent, stop being such a coward: shot when you are open and take it to the rack more often.

Aggie Hoopsfan
01-14-2006, 02:38 PM
boutons, you're not reading worth a damn (as usual).

This isn't about whether or not they happen to get the ball 4-5 times a game. [i]It's about actually running a play to get a guy a jumper, and get him some confidence.

Put him in position to succeed instead of getting the ball with the shot clock ticking down. It's the same shit that used to plague us against LA. We all heard the PR about getting Nick and Finley to open up shots for Tim.

The problem is we're back to the '02 ideology on offense where our shooters only get the ball once in a great while. Think in the NFL where teams pass the ball to set up the run. Same idea here.