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Nbadan
01-23-2006, 03:02 PM
Medicare's drug benefit program is so corrupt, bungled and partisan that it could be just the thing for what ails the Democrats.


FOR THE LAST few weeks, Democrats in Washington have been thrashing about in search of some way to make the Republican corruption scandals relevant to the broader public. Meanwhile, the public seems much more concerned about the Medicare prescription drug plan, which, with its horror stories of bureaucratic bungling, has turned out to be the Hurricane Katrina of entitlement programs.

It's the corruption! It's the Medicare drug plan! Wait a second — is it me, or did the answer to the Democrats' dilemma just fall right into their lap?

The Medicare drug plan is the perfect issue for Democrats to run on. It perfectly encapsulates the corruption of Republican Washington, and it's a concrete thing that voters can relate to. Running on this issue makes so much sense that naturally the Democrats won't do it.

But let's go ahead and indulge our imaginations anyway.

The sheer number of devious acts packed into one legislative act boggles the mind.

To begin with, creating the largest entitlement in 40 years without paying for it was a massive act of fiscal irresponsibility. Conservative Republicans balked at the cost, and the Bush administration assured them it would cost no more than $400 billion over a decade. This number was a lie. The chief Medicare actuary knew it would cost more — at least 20% higher — but was forbidden by Bush appointee Thomas Scully from sharing his estimate with Congress.

Even so, Republicans could not get the bill passed without breaking House rules and holding open the vote for an astounding three hours, ultimately eking out a victory shortly before dawn. Congressional scholar Norman Ornstein called it "the ugliest and most outrageous breach of standards in the modern history of the House."

During those three hours, Republican leaders indulged in all manner of threats and bribery. One holdout, then-Rep. Nick Smith (R-Mich.), later alleged that a member of the House leadership promised to raise $100,000 for his son's congressional campaign to replace him if he'd support the bill. (When Smith was informed that he was describing bribery, a crime, he backpedaled from the allegation in highly unconvincing fashion.)

And the bill itself was a massive special-interest giveaway. Republicans packed it with hundreds of billions of dollars worth of subsidies to their corporate donors. (In fact, Scully negotiated for a job as a lobbyist with one such beneficiary even while helping craft the bill.) The giveaways made the bill far more expensive than necessary. Yale political scientists Theodore Marmor and Jacob Hacker estimated that a better bill could have offered the same benefit for half the cost.

What's more, the insistence on satiating the private sector is what made the plan so complex. It forces millions of poor senior citizens out of Medicaid and into private plans subsidized by Medicare. It's so complex precisely because it funnels people through the private sector.

By contrast, the original Medicare program, as my New Republic colleague Jonathan Cohn writes, was simple, user-friendly and went off without a hitch at its inception because it used a straightforward government mechanism.

The beautiful thing about the drug-benefit fiasco is that every one of the GOP's tawdriest habits were on full display. The phony numbers, the sucking up to corporate lobbyists, the dictatorial management of the House, the fanatical partisanship — all these are the hallmarks of the modern Republican style.

And what's more, conservatives loathe this bill, so the more Democrats talk about it, the more it divides the GOP base.

It ought to be relatively easy for Democrats to explain that old folks are going through bureaucratic hell — and, in many cases, being denied vital medicine — because Republicans wanted to cut their corporate allies in on the action. If they vote for Democrats, they could have a better plan, at less cost to the taxpayers and without the incompetence reminiscent of Iraq or the New Orleans evacuation.

If there's any Republican defense against this argument, I can't imagine what it would be.

LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/la-oe-chait22jan22,0,6055747.column?coll=la-util-opinion-sunday)

The painful truth of the huge rip-off against the American people is starting to hit home -- even with some of the most brain-dead rethugs supporters.

2centsworth
01-23-2006, 03:17 PM
Typical government program a sham and in shambles.

xrayzebra
01-23-2006, 03:21 PM
Sheeeeesh, tell me any government program that isn't screwed-up. But if the
Government doesn't do it. Oh, never mind.

xrayzebra
01-23-2006, 03:32 PM
the funny thing is it's NOT a government plan really hahaha

the whole idea is that the govt had it screwed up so badly..they just shoved it onto private insurance companies, who creamed their shorts at the chance to make BILLIONS upon BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of dollars

Gee I didn't know that. I thought it was a Government program. Thanks
for letting me in on that little secret. :lol

xrayzebra
01-23-2006, 03:32 PM
the funny thing is it's NOT a government plan really hahaha

the whole idea is that the govt had it screwed up so badly..they just shoved it onto private insurance companies, who creamed their shorts at the chance to make BILLIONS upon BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of dollars

101A
01-23-2006, 03:49 PM
the funny thing is it's NOT a government plan really hahaha

the whole idea is that the govt had it screwed up so badly..they just shoved it onto private insurance companies, who creamed their shorts at the chance to make BILLIONS upon BILLIONS upon BILLIONS of dollars

No, it's a government program. Paid for by your taxes, administered by Medicare.

I don't know what you are talking about.

2centsworth
01-23-2006, 03:51 PM
No, it's a government program. Paid for by your taxes, administered by Medicare.

I don't know what you are talking about.
it's only gonna cost the taxpayers a minimum of $1trillion dollars.

2centsworth
01-23-2006, 05:15 PM
you need to read up on this topic 101A


www.medicare.gov (http://www.medicare.gov/)it's not a governement program but the information is on a government website. Interesting, and it's called medicare part d.

it's a government program with private aspects to it, very much like.... medicare.

101A
01-23-2006, 05:22 PM
you need to read up on this topic 101A


www.medicare.gov


Sarcasm (although technically it will be paid for by your great, great grandchildren's taxes).

Premium is going to insurance companies, then (I can only assume), they file for reimbursement w/Medicare for expenses incurred on behalf of Part D subscribers.

Insurance companies (and also the hidden middleman in ALL insurance drug plans - the PBM (prescription benefit manager) are probably making money ALL OVER this thing:

1. Premium from Subscriber

2. A monthly stipend (administrative overhead) from the govt. per subscriber (I'm guessing on this)

3. Wouldn't surprise me if they are billing govt. retail for the drugs while paying somewhat (alot) less than that for the actual drugs - they make the margin as a middleman. Then they report the retail expense to the subscriber
at renewal time to justify higher premium rates going forward.

4. Rebates from the drug co's (HUGE money in this)

So, we, as taxpayers, get it porn style - from every orifice all at once. Medicare's inefficient and expensive adminstration of Insurance Company's sticking it to us from every angle, while they are paying for our overmedicated society paying for overpriced, overhyped drugs which NEVER CURE ANYTHING - they MAINTAIN!

Vashner
01-23-2006, 07:26 PM
This won't hurt us... next..

Man ya'll getting fucking owned on every try to find dirt ...

Just wait till how embarassed you get with this years congressional elections.

xrayzebra
01-23-2006, 07:30 PM
it's terribly inaccurate to say that medicare administers this program

basically the govt is taking in the money, then using it to subsidize private insurance companies who are offering plans that meet minimum government standards

that government's "plan" is basically this:

govt: here take this $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
private insurance: okey dokey.

How bout the Medicare HMO's. Same thing, guess it isn't a government
program. Or Income Tax or sales tax..... I could go on and on, but
what the heck. You wouldn't buy any of that either.

RandomGuy
01-31-2006, 08:32 PM
o begin with, creating the largest entitlement in 40 years without paying for it was a massive act of fiscal irresponsibility. Conservative Republicans balked at the cost, and the Bush administration assured them it would cost no more than $400 billion over a decade. This number was a lie. The chief Medicare actuary knew it would cost more — at least 20% higher — but was forbidden by Bush appointee Thomas Scully from sharing his estimate with Congress.


More Bush lies that we will end up paying for. (RG maintains that Bush administration "spin" has long since crossed the border into outright and shameful lying)

Peter
01-31-2006, 09:04 PM
First off, this boondoggle shows that one party rule is not desirious, even rule by an allegedly conservative party. I'm convinced that the best model is a Demo president with a Republican Congress. Then conservative Republican congresspersons can actually be so, which is paramount considering where the power of the purse lies.

Secondly, I'm not sure why peeps are surprised that a government program would have been designed in favor of a special interest.

Third, if people want the government to give them goodies, don't bitch.

2centsworth
01-31-2006, 09:50 PM
First off, this boondoggle shows that one party rule is not desirious, even rule by an allegedly conservative party. I'm convinced that the best model is a Demo president with a Republican Congress. Then conservative Republican congresspersons can actually be so, which is paramount considering where the power of the purse lies.

Secondly, I'm not sure why peeps are surprised that a government program would have been designed in favor of a special interest.

Third, if people want the government to give them goodies, don't bitch.

:tu