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Taco
01-29-2006, 10:25 AM
http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/football/nfl/cowboys/stories/MYSA012906.1C.FBNcowboys.thanksgiving.364dd18.html

NFL gobbles up Cowboys

Web Posted: 01/29/2006 12:12 AM CST
Tom Orsborn
Express-News Staff Writer

The NFL's decision to broadcast eight prime-time Thursday and Saturday games on its NFL Network next season could make for an unappetizing Thanksgiving for many of the city's Dallas Cowboys fans.



League sources said Saturday the package will begin Thanksgiving night with the Cowboys-Washington Redskins game in Irving. Simulcasts of the eight games will be limited to stations in the markets of the teams playing, meaning San Antonio-area fans must pay to watch the Cowboys-Redskins game or find a bar or restaurant that carries the NFL Network.
"We are following the same protocol that exists for games shown on ESPN," said Seth Palansky, NFL Publicity Manager/Director of Media Services.

When ESPN broadcasts a Cowboys game, the league also allows a local station in the Dallas market to simulcast the game. In San Antonio, it is only shown on ESPN.

The NFL Network is offered in San Antonio through cable/satellite providers DirecTV, Dish Network and San Marcos-based Grande Communications Inc.

Depending on the level of service, packages offered locally that include the NFL Network range from $38-$63 a month.

There may soon be a fourth option. Time Warner Cable, the area's largest cable provider, is negotiating with the NFL, Time Warner spokesman Jon Gary Herrera said.

"We would like to get something done as quickly as possible, and we are optimistic a deal will be reached," Herrera said.

By showing live games, the NFL Network will increase its value significantly and, in turn, become more attractive to cable operators like Time Warner and Charter Communications, said Marc Ganis, president of the Chicago-based sports marketing company Sportscorp Ltd.

The decision also means the NFL Network can charge higher monthly subscriber fees while the league still collects lucrative payments from broadcasting partners CBS, Fox, ESPN and DirecTV.

"Time Warner will need to take the NFL Network on," Ganis said. "Their subscribers will demand it. Plus, Time Warner needs the NFL Network more than some channel about gardening or something like that."

Ganis predicted the NFL will ask cable operators to put the NFL Network on basic cable so all cable customers would get it. The NFL Network has about 40 million cable and satellite subscribers.

"This is a really smart move," Ganis said. "The NFL Network will get many more subscribers and is going to be available to many more households. That will allow the NFL Network to be viewed by tens of millions more people regularly."

The NFL had been negotiating to put games on Comcast Corp.'s OLN Network or a new sports channel but decided Friday to televise games on its own network.

"After discussing this new package of games with many potential partners, we decided it would be best presented on our own, high-quality NFL Network, which has developed so rapidly that the time had come to add live regular-season games to the programming," NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue said. "In the end, we wanted these games on our network, which is devoted 24/7 to football."

NFL games broadcast on ABC, CBS and Fox averaged 15.6 million viewers this season. Games on ESPN averaged 8.7 million.

"The NFL is fortunate to be in a position where they can put their games on almost any delivering system and know fans will seek them out," Ganis said. "It's a unique situation. There is no other programming concept in the United States that can say that."

The NFL created the eight-game package by taking Saturday and Sunday games originally scheduled for CBS or Fox.

spurschick
01-29-2006, 10:37 AM
I heard about this yesterday and I still can't believe it. After all that crap about Jerry Jones not wanting to lose the San Antonio TV market if the Saints moved here, San Antonio gets the major snub. I'm not a Cowboys fan, but it totally sucks that the NFL is messing with a longstanding Thanksgiving tradition. I hope that the NFL has been flooded with complaints. If they go through with this, I really hope that people take a stand and NOT pay for that game.

scott
01-29-2006, 11:33 AM
It won't be a pay-per-view deal... you'll either be someone who gets the NFL Network and sees the game... or you won't. Time Warner is working to secure NFL network as we speak. People without cable will be left in the cold... but since I have cable...

Taco
01-29-2006, 11:36 AM
I'm Not Going To Pay For This

It's All About The $$$$ For The Nfl

They Suck!!!

exstatic
01-29-2006, 11:49 AM
Yes, let's take a business model that's been an UTTER FAILURE for the NBA (NBATV) and implement it for the NFL. Stern thought he could cull off the best games and package them, too. Stupid gits.

exstatic
01-29-2006, 11:50 AM
Depending on the level of service, packages offered locally that include the NFL Network range from $38-$63 a month.


Doesn't sound like "just needing cable" to me, scott.

scott
01-29-2006, 12:05 PM
Doesn't sound like "just needing cable" to me, scott.

The "packages" are not the cost of just the NFL network... those are the costs of the Cable Packages that currently offer the NFL network (namely, DirecTV and Dish Network - $38 sounds like its right around the base package on either system).

Like the article says, Time Warner is working on landing the NFL network. If you have cable via Time Warner or any of the Dish providers, there is a strong probability you will get the NFL network.

Horry For 3!
01-29-2006, 01:25 PM
Yes, let's take a business model that's been an UTTER FAILURE for the NBA (NBATV) and implement it for the NFL. Stern thought he could cull off the best games and package them, too. Stupid gits.
I watch NBATV when there are games on there and I watch Rick Kamla's show.

Taco
01-29-2006, 03:18 PM
looks like i will miss the cowboys thanksgiving game for the first time in my history of being


unless my grandma coughs up a ticket..

Too bad you can't use your Vbookie $$$ to buy the PPV:lol

N.Y. Johnny
01-29-2006, 09:15 PM
Awesome. I can't wait for it. I'm a fancy man and got NFL Network, its about time all the cable companies stop being bitches and offer it to customers. Shit even tight wadded fuckin BitchNetwork even now offers NFL Network on their card, there is no excuse any cable company can't get it on either.

Melmart1
01-30-2006, 02:25 AM
Comcast has it as part of the basic digital package up here, I like it. But I will be back in SA by that time, so something better change. I swear, Time Warner really sucks ass sometimes....

Spurs rock
01-30-2006, 10:55 PM
Fuck you Paul Fagliabue!!!

Willinsa
01-30-2006, 11:53 PM
Well Cowboy fans in SA, this how Mr Jones and the rest of the NFL say thank you for being a (sucker) I mean fan.

Vashner
01-31-2006, 01:15 AM
WTF Jerry Jones has ruined this BEEEPing game with his bullshit.

What we need to do is contact the advertisers... I.E. Budweiser and say
no Cowboys no beer sales. Contact Lay's .. no chip sales. Contact Pace salsa.. no NYC salsa... etc.

scott
01-31-2006, 06:37 PM
Yeah... because that will work.

TxJudsonRocketTx
01-31-2006, 07:55 PM
Im not a fan of either one of these teams to be honest, but you dont go messing with tradition and alienating tons of fans across the country just to make a few extra bucks. I would expect more from the league, but then again it all comes down to money.

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
01-31-2006, 08:01 PM
I expect cable and sat providers to pick up the NFL network as part of their basic packages by the time next season rolls around...

BTW, how about the Cowboys getting downgraded to primetime on T-Day?

If you want to blame anyone, Lamar Hunt is your man...

Peter
01-31-2006, 09:22 PM
If you love the Cowboys that much, pay up or move.

Vashner
01-31-2006, 10:17 PM
STFU Poser...

Don't fuck with a bunch of drunk San Antonio cowboy's fans without there game...

Despot
02-02-2006, 09:36 PM
UNFUCKING BELIEVABLE.......Is there only going to be one game in the daytime???

Damn Communists!!

DisgruntledLionFan#54,927
02-02-2006, 09:54 PM
UNFUCKING BELIEVABLE.......Is there only going to be one game in the daytime???

Damn Communists!!


There is going to be three games on Thanksgiving; the two normal afternoon games and then the added night game...

Guru of Nothing
02-02-2006, 10:15 PM
Cowboy fan since 197X; I would not even consider paying to watch them, even on Thanksgiving. The emotional tie is simply dead, but that is just me - I suspect I am in the minority.

Despot
02-02-2006, 10:28 PM
There is going to be three games on Thanksgiving; the two normal afternoon games and then the added night game...


woooohh....much better. Could care less bout the Boys, just did not want to waste Thanksgiving TV on the lumberjack competion on ESPN.

Vashner
02-02-2006, 11:07 PM
Lumberjacks.... are you gay?

COWBOYS and turkey!!

Peter
02-03-2006, 12:38 AM
Cowboy fan since 197X; I would not even consider paying to watch them, even on Thanksgiving. The emotional tie is simply dead, but that is just me - I suspect I am in the minority.


I can see that. JJ is just grasping at straws every year. Parcells is good enough to at least give the fan base the hope of making the postseason. With Aikman, Smith and Irvin you had homegrown talent. Now it's just whoever, save for the few bright spots. It's artificial. It's like the Knicks. No matter how shitty the team does the franchise is still making $ hand over fist. Oh well, fuck it, that's my stream of consciousness view on the Cowboys. Whatever happened to Crazy Ray?

Peter
02-03-2006, 12:39 AM
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scott
02-04-2006, 11:03 AM
Looks like quite a few people jumped the gun... the turkey day game will be on network TV, just as always.

http://dallascowboys.com/news.cfm?id=322F6294-FDF0-89F3-3090A97A7D8A075F

Super Notes: Tagliabue Saves Thanksgiving


DETROIT - Not to worry about changing your Thanksgiving Day football watching tradition.

The Dallas Cowboys will continue to play in their traditional 3 o'clock time slot, according to NFL commissioner Paul Tagliabue.

There have been several reports over the past two weeks claiming the Cowboys and Redskins would kick off the NFL Network's Thanksgiving night TV schedule this year, which would lend national appeal to the network's foray into broadcasting NFL regular-season games.

But when delivering his state of the union address here Friday at Super Bowl XL, Tagliabue, without directly being asked, shot down the stories that have been suggesting otherwise.

When talking about the NFL's new Thursday-Saturday TV schedule, which will be instituted late in the season, Tagliabue touched an additional game being played on Thanksgiving, saying, "Although the (Thursday-Saturday) package in some years will kick off on Thanksgiving night, we will continue to have the traditional Dallas and Detroit games on CBS and Fox. We'll have another game in a different city as the opening - as the third game on Thanksgiving - and our goal there would be to start a new tradition, which is to have a third game on Thanksgiving that would rotate around to different cities in the league who have been anxious for many years to host games."

Many Cowboys fans have been expressing concerns about the Thanksgiving Day game being played at night on the NFL Network since cable providers in many cities still don't subscribe to the league's network. But from the start, when the NFL first came up with the idea for a third Thanksgiving Day game, Cowboys owner Jerry Jones said he had no interest in giving away his 3 o'clock time slot to play in the night game.

Cowboys spokesman Rich Dalrymple said Jones has always wanted to maintain the tradition of the Thanksgiving game, which has been played at Texas Stadium for the past 30 consecutive years and has become part of the team's lore.

The 2006 NFL schedule will not be released until late March or early April. But since the game will be on Fox this year, prime opponents for the holiday game would seem to be Tampa Bay or one of the NFC East teams. The Cowboys have not played Tampa Bay at Texas Stadium since the 2001 season opener, losing with rookie quarterback Quincy Carter starting, 10-6. That was the only time the Bucs have played at Dallas since 1990, when the teams played home and away.

Vashner
02-04-2006, 01:05 PM
lol 3rd game.

Ok folks watch our 2 games... watch our commercials..

then PAY again.. to watch our commercials for a 3rd game.. cause we didn't make enough money for Jerry Jones so we need that pay thing.

P.S. San Antonio you guys really suck no NFL team for little po dunk small town like yours.

Signed, Commish Tag.

my2sons
02-05-2006, 10:17 PM
its a great opportunity for the NBA to put on some thanksgiving specials on free tv....get ready for some neck car racing

scott
02-05-2006, 10:51 PM
You guys truely fail to grasp the concept of pay-per-view, don't you? These games are not "pay-per-view" - they are cable games, no different than ESPN games. And they are games that would previously not been available to anyone in the area unless you had Sunday Ticket.

hussker
02-05-2006, 11:21 PM
Basically, this thread is irrelavant...
Bye Bye...OH

And Don't fuck with the 12th Man (ref SB XL)

Kori Ellis
02-05-2006, 11:54 PM
You guys truely fail to grasp the concept of pay-per-view, don't you? These games are not "pay-per-view" - they are cable games, no different than ESPN games. And they are games that would previously not been available to anyone in the area unless you had Sunday Ticket.

:lol

I was just reading this thread for the first time wondering why everyone was talking about pay-per-view.

my2sons
02-06-2006, 07:40 PM
You guys truely fail to grasp the concept of pay-per-view, don't you? These games are not "pay-per-view" - they are cable games, no different than ESPN games. And they are games that would previously not been available to anyone in the area unless you had Sunday Ticket.

last i heard time warner still had not decided if it would be part of their basic cable package or a higher priced package, so in a sense it is pay per view.