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angel_luv
01-31-2006, 11:29 PM
Just heard on the news, Pop said they aren't looking to move anyone- we're gonna go with what we have. He mentioned big guys in particular.

Whoosh! :elephant

Kori Ellis
01-31-2006, 11:30 PM
Just so you know, they said that last season before trading Malik. Almost those exact words.

angel_luv
01-31-2006, 11:31 PM
And time! :depressed

I was afraid that was coming. I wish it wasn't from you Kori. I believe you.

timvp
01-31-2006, 11:31 PM
Just heard on the news, Pop said they aren't looking to move anyone- we're gonna go with what we have. He mentioned big guys in particular.

Whoosh! :elephant

Damn, that means the Spurs just traded someone. With that wording, I'm guessing a tall Slovenian.

Thanks for the scoop.

Trainwreck2100
01-31-2006, 11:31 PM
Just so you know, they said that last season before trading Malik. Almost those exact words.

So he wouldn't do the same thing twice, that's not CIA. I say we're moving a little guy. Bye bye Melvin Sanders

angel_luv
01-31-2006, 11:32 PM
Stop it you guys! :pctoss

boutons_
01-31-2006, 11:33 PM
Pop and RC have said the phone rings every day.
THERE's always something going on, whether Pop and RC are looking for a trade or not.

milkyway21
01-31-2006, 11:34 PM
fine with me. just stay healthy.

BTW, speaking of trades, heard Minny is talking swap between KG and Pierce of Celtics. they are just clearing some salary cap. how true is the news? KG n Boston?

Trainwreck2100
01-31-2006, 11:36 PM
fine with me. just stay healthy.

BTW, speaking of trades, heard Minny is talking swap between KG and Pierce of Celtics. they are just clearing some salary cap. how true is the news? KG n Boston?

Why would they do another trade from the same team.

Solid D
01-31-2006, 11:37 PM
fine with me. just stay healthy.

BTW, speaking of trades, heard Minny is talking swap between KG and Pierce of Celtics. they are just clearing some salary cap. how true is the news? KG n Boston?

Rumor started at the Cheers bar.

angel_luv
01-31-2006, 11:38 PM
Damn, that means the Spurs just traded someone. With that wording, I'm guessing a tall Slovenian.

Thanks for the scoop.


In the WOAI teaser, they showed a clip of Nazr.

Peter
01-31-2006, 11:41 PM
I think the Spurs are pretty much locked into moving Mohammed, if they move a big. I don't see them going into the summer with only Oberto signed past this season. If they found a deal that sent them back a big for Rasho that might change the scenario though.

ZStomp
01-31-2006, 11:43 PM
Don't believe everything you read and/or see on TV Angel...don't be so gullible. :)

ZStomp
01-31-2006, 11:44 PM
fine with me. just stay healthy.

BTW, speaking of trades, heard Minny is talking swap between KG and Pierce of Celtics. they are just clearing some salary cap. how true is the news? KG n Boston?


who's trying to clear some salary cap?

angel_luv
01-31-2006, 11:45 PM
I heard Pop say it... it was a sound bite from the Pop Show ( I think)

ZStomp
01-31-2006, 11:50 PM
Pop or not....don't believe everything u see/read on TV....whether it has to do with Spurs, sports, politices, entertainment..etc..etc..etc...

Brutalis
01-31-2006, 11:52 PM
This just in...... Rasho and a conditional first round in 2009 traded to Phoenix for Amare Stoudemire.

T Park
01-31-2006, 11:55 PM
^^ Yeah, I wish.

Brutalis
01-31-2006, 11:59 PM
ESPN.com :)

baseline bum
02-01-2006, 12:00 AM
fine with me. just stay healthy.

BTW, speaking of trades, heard Minny is talking swap between KG and Pierce of Celtics. they are just clearing some salary cap. how true is the news? KG n Boston?

:lmao

Wally, KG, and KandiAss reunion tour in Boston? :lol

angel_luv
02-01-2006, 12:03 AM
Oooooooh Nooooooooooo! :wow
I just heard the rest of the sound bite. Pop said if someone calls with a deal that will make us better he will listen to it.

But he maintains they are not actively looking.

angel_luv
02-01-2006, 12:07 AM
http://www.ticket760.com/cc-common/podcast.html
8:25 mark- Jan 31/ Part 1- For those who want to hear.

MannyIsGod
02-01-2006, 12:10 AM
Cia.

milkyway21
02-01-2006, 12:19 AM
who's trying to clear some salary cap?Celtics. But i think this is not going to be soon, but for the summer. So Wally and KG might reunite-in Boston ? Weird.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/5295014

Detroit News
The News is speculating that Boston is clearing salary space as a possible precursor to a summer trade that could see the Celtics and Timberwolves swap superstars Paul Pierce and Kevin Garnett.

TDMVPDPOY
02-01-2006, 12:35 AM
trade rasho to the sonics for evans

ace3g
02-01-2006, 12:45 AM
no trade nazr to the sonics for evans if anything

Aggie Hoopsfan
02-01-2006, 12:53 AM
:lol at the original post. Someone get angel a CIA Pop decoder ring. There's a trade coming before the end of the week given that language.

Darrin
02-01-2006, 12:59 AM
fine with me. just stay healthy.

BTW, speaking of trades, heard Minny is talking swap between KG and Pierce of Celtics. they are just clearing some salary cap. how true is the news? KG n Boston?

That makes zero sense. Wally, Kandi, and KG couldn't do it in Minnesota, why would they do it in Boston? If KG goes to Boston, I'll color my hair green and legally change my name to the green goblin.

T Park
02-01-2006, 12:59 AM
Remember last year Pop said that the team wasn't doing anything what so ever.

Poof, Malik is on tv crying about leaving.

Darrin
02-01-2006, 01:00 AM
:lol at the original post. Someone get angel a CIA Pop decoder ring. There's a trade coming before the end of the week given that language.

Why do you call him CIA?

Trainwreck2100
02-01-2006, 01:03 AM
Why do you call him CIA?

There's never any leaks or info on Front office moves. IE our draft pick and the Malik trade nobody saw coming.



Edit(people saw the trade coming, but we had no warning)

Darrin
02-01-2006, 01:05 AM
There's never any leaks or info on Front office moves. IE our draft pick and the Malik trade nobody saw coming.



Edit(people saw the trade coming, but we had no warning)

Okay. Who could he pick up - Vladimir Radmonovic?

timvp
02-01-2006, 01:07 AM
Why do you call him CIA?

Who wants to explain?

angel_luv
02-01-2006, 01:07 AM
:lol at the original post. Someone get angel a CIA Pop decoder ring. There's a trade coming before the end of the week given that language.


How about instead you get me another Championship ring with the current team. :angel

Trainwreck2100
02-01-2006, 01:08 AM
Who wants to explain?

I gave him the short version.

exstatic
02-01-2006, 06:03 AM
Oooooooh Nooooooooooo! :wow
I just heard the rest of the sound bite. Pop said if someone calls with a deal that will make us better he will listen to it.

But he maintains they are not actively looking.

That's pretty much always his position. No news here, keep moving.

ShoogarBear
02-01-2006, 09:38 AM
Who wants to explain?

If Pop when shooters go, so was CIA.

TwoHandJam
02-01-2006, 09:54 AM
I gave him the short version.
You left out the fact where Pop was in the armed forces previously and actually considered a career with the CIA.

1Parker1
02-01-2006, 09:55 AM
If Pop when shooters go, so was CIA.


:lmao :lmao

Johnny_Blaze_47
02-01-2006, 10:10 AM
If Pop when shooters go, so was CIA.

Get refuel!

Slo spurs fan
02-01-2006, 12:50 PM
If Pop when shooters go, so was CIA.
I miss Ducks :depressed

angel_luv
02-01-2006, 12:58 PM
Where did he go?

Jimcs50
02-01-2006, 12:59 PM
I think the Spurs are going to make a trade of some sort.

angel_luv
02-01-2006, 01:02 PM
Any specific speculation?

PM5K
02-01-2006, 01:02 PM
Who ever really knows what the Spurs are doing?

Either way I'm not totally satisfied with our center position and I don't think the Spurs should be either, from a production standpoint and from a contract standpoint.

Worst case scenario is I play one guy or the other a lot of minutes, maybe they can get something done that way...

ducks
02-01-2006, 01:03 PM
Where did he go?

ducks gets very busy nov thru end of feb do to 130,000 going to yuma

angel_luv
02-01-2006, 01:05 PM
Ah there you be. Nice to see you.

smeagol
02-01-2006, 01:07 PM
If Pop when shooters go, so was CIA.
That is one of the funniest things el Pato has ever said :lol

spurster
02-01-2006, 01:08 PM
Besides what others have already said, CIA also refers to the misinformation you get from Pop and the Spurs front office. If they say one thing, you can look for them to do something else. And every so often, they actually do what they say just to keep everyone honest.

ShoogarBear
02-01-2006, 01:15 PM
That is one of the funniest things el Pato has ever said :lol

The funniest is that he never actually said it:

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6285&goto=nextoldest

Old School Chic
02-01-2006, 01:33 PM
Don't worry, Angel. Rumor has It that they are going to get rid of someone who used to be with Denver. :lol



http://www.brentbarbour.com/nuggets/vanexel23_thumb.jpg

Trainwreck2100
02-01-2006, 01:35 PM
Don't worry, Angel. Rumor has It that they are going to get rid of someone who used to be with Denver. :lol



http://www.brentbarbour.com/nuggets/vanexel23_thumb.jpg

That would put a black mark on free agency for us.

zeleni
02-01-2006, 01:50 PM
Playoff roster is how long?

I still do not know who should go on inactive players list.
NVE is so ...different that he should be useful when other guys fail to concentrate. NVE SHOULD stay with the Spurs. But Beno seems to be more capable to cover TP's behind on regular season's nights.

What do you think?

Bruno
02-01-2006, 02:12 PM
Playoff roster is how long?

I still do not know who should go on inactive players list.


It's 12 players, Marks should go on the inactive list.
If Spurs don't make move, the playoff roster will be : Parker, NVE, Udrih, Manu, Barry, Bowen, Finley, Duncan, Horry, Oberto, Rasho and Nazr.

My point of view :
The more likely player to be traded before the deadline are Barry and Nazr.
Rasho, Beno and oberto can too be traded.
Duncan, Parker, Manu, Bowen, Finley, NVE, Horry and Marks won't be traded.

But we never know with CIA Pop.

Despot
02-01-2006, 02:14 PM
[QUOTE=PM5K]Either way I'm not totally satisfied with our center position and I don't think the Spurs should be either, from a production standpoint and from a contract standpoint.[QUOTE]

My thoughts exactly, and you said it the best possible way. The frustrating thing is that the abilities one of them is good at, the other SUCKS at. There is NO way Pop is happy with the center position, our offense and defense sways too much when they are substituted with each other.

I know I will get hammered for thinking this way, but one of our weakest links is our offense, and having two starters that are offensive liabilities could wind up hurting us against Detroit. OK, I know Bowen leads or is among the lead leaders in 3 point %, and has improved his offensive game, he is averaging 7 points a game, but his scoring will go down in the playoffs, and I am ok with that, the problem is having a second liability in Rasho who gets 4 points in the first minute of the game and then goes 0-fer the rest of the game.

Peter
02-01-2006, 02:20 PM
You don't need much scoring from the 5 spot in the Spurs offense, but you do need offensive rebounding and a presence in the paint.

grjr
02-01-2006, 02:29 PM
Playoff roster is how long?



I think each team is limited to 78 feet total when players are laid end to end. This means Marks will have to be inactive since he is too tall.

AI-square
02-01-2006, 02:29 PM
How about Rasho for the Sixers' 7m trade exception?

velik_m
02-01-2006, 02:37 PM
It's 12 players, Marks should go on the inactive list.
If Spurs don't make move, the playoff roster will be : Parker, NVE, Udrih, Manu, Barry, Bowen, Finley, Duncan, Horry, Oberto, Rasho and Nazr.


you think 3rd string pg is more important than another big? (6 more fouls...)

nkdlunch
02-01-2006, 02:39 PM
NVE for food coupons

Peter
02-01-2006, 02:42 PM
How about Rasho for the Sixers' 7m trade exception?

Throw in a 2nd rounder and a Dr. J autograph and you have yourself a deal.

Bruno
02-01-2006, 02:45 PM
you think 3rd string pg is more important than another big? (6 more fouls...)

Yes. We played last season with 5 bigs, the only guy against who a 6th big can be usefull is a Shaq in good shape : he isn't in good shape and if we reach the final, Detroit will likely be our opponent.
NVE has randomly some troubles with his elbow. If it happens during playoff we won't have any backup PG. Manu can play PG ( like against Detroit last year) but it's not a great solution when you have only 4 swingmen.

Horry For 3!
02-01-2006, 02:51 PM
trade rasho to the sonics for evans
Evans is a PF

AI-square
02-01-2006, 02:57 PM
Throw in a 2nd rounder and a Dr. J autograph and you have yourself a deal.

Yeah we got 2 2nd rounders from New Orleans anyway. Too bad they won't do it though.

Kori Ellis
02-01-2006, 03:02 PM
Evans is a PF

Also Evans also only makes $1.1M.

ShoogarBear
02-01-2006, 03:12 PM
The frustrating thing is that the abilities one of them is good at, the other SUCKS at.

Is this SUCKS in the Korean sense?

Peter
02-01-2006, 03:21 PM
For Evans to be a Spur it would take something like Marks plus a 2nd rounder or Beno as well as the Spurs to be willing to not pare down salary.

Jimcs50
02-01-2006, 03:59 PM
Any specific speculation?


I hope we trade for Richard Jefferson.

angel_luv
02-01-2006, 04:15 PM
I like Richard Jefferson but who would you trade for him?

Peter
02-01-2006, 04:23 PM
I don't like Jefferson at his price. I'm also not sure we'd be willing to part with anything Jersey likes.

ChumpDumper
02-01-2006, 04:46 PM
The Spurs worked out Ime Udoka (http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/ime_udoka/index.html) and Luke Schenscher (http://www.nba.com/dleague/playerfile/luke_schenscher/index.html) recently. Udoka was a no-brainer since Manu was out, but Schenscher is a center -- not going to help anyone this year but interesting nonetheless. I wonder if Aaron Miles was with the Flyers yet when we worked them out.

Link. (http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=1180)

I also hope that RC at least cast an eye at James Lang when he was here. He's producing really well since he took Pape Sow's place in Arkansas. I shudder to think what he could do with his athleticism if he were 20 pounds lighter. He's only 22, in think there's time for him to really get it together.

pistolpete
02-01-2006, 04:55 PM
all i got to say is we might want to think about trading brent barry for someone who is more consistant from the outside. as for trading nazi mohammed i think it would be a bad idea. he is a good big man to have on the squad. he can score when you PLAY him.

pistolpete
02-01-2006, 05:02 PM
It's 12 players, Marks should go on the inactive list.
If Spurs don't make move, the playoff roster will be : Parker, NVE, Udrih, Manu, Barry, Bowen, Finley, Duncan, Horry, Oberto, Rasho and Nazr.

My point of view :
The more likely player to be traded before the deadline are Barry and Nazr.
Rasho, Beno and oberto can too be traded.
Duncan, Parker, Manu, Bowen, Finley, NVE, Horry and Marks won't be traded.

But we never know with CIA Pop.


you hit this one on the head!!!!!!! but i would keep mohammed because he can get some points and some boards.........

angel_luv
02-01-2006, 07:45 PM
For my peace of mind, this post is the last time I am going to talk about spurs trades till
(God forbid) one happens.

I hope we make it through the deadline with everyone in tact, but the following is my list of keepers in order of priority.

I purposely excluded Timmy, Gino, and Tony because there is no way they are getting traded.

From number three on, I tried to factor in basketball implications along with my personal feelings.

1)Rasho Nesterovic
2)Beno Udrih
3)Robert Horry
4)Bruce Bowen
5)Brent Barry
6)Sean Marks


7)Nick Van Exel
8)Fabricio Oberto
9)Michael Finley
10)Melvin Sanders
11)Nazr Mohammed

Nephets
02-01-2006, 08:33 PM
We should trade for Zaza Pachulia.

King
02-01-2006, 09:44 PM
From number three on, I tried to factor in basketball implications along with my personal feelings.

1)Rasho Nesterovic
2)Beno Udrih
3)Robert Horry
4)Bruce Bowen
5)Brent Barry
6)Sean Marks


7)Nick Van Exel
8)Fabricio Oberto
9)Michael Finley
10)Melvin Sanders
11)Nazr Mohammed

Bowen would be right at the top - and why Marks at 6? Why Finley all the way down at 9?

Peter
02-01-2006, 09:55 PM
Rasho at #1?! Goodness.

angel_luv
02-02-2006, 12:58 AM
Bowen would be right at the top - and why Marks at 6? Why Finley all the way down at 9?


Even though one is 6 and the other is 9 they're actually a lot closer than that. I really like them both.

And as I said before, my first and foremost preference is to not part with anybody.


Rasho at #1?! Goodness.


We must not have met. :lol

SequSpur
02-02-2006, 01:04 AM
Even though one is 6 and the other is 9 they're actually a lot closer than that. I really like them both.

And as I said before, my first and foremost preference is to not part with anybody.

We must not have met. :lol

Stick to the Club.

Slo spurs fan
02-02-2006, 03:27 AM
Stick to the Club.
Stick to the bowling.

veronicamae
02-02-2006, 10:34 AM
I hope they never trade anyone for Stoudemire. He's been out the entire season, and who knows if/when he'll ever really be ready to play again, with that knee surgery he had a few months ago. That would be a potential waste of a playable player.

romsey31
02-02-2006, 11:19 AM
Seeing that the Spurs are trying to cut cost a great trade for them would be :
Indiana Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Jonathan Bender
7-0 SF from Picayune Memorial (HS)
5.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 10.5 minutes
Incoming
Beno Udrih
6-3 PG from Slovenia (Foreign)
3.1 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 6.6 minutes
Nazr Mohammed
6-10 C from Kentucky
4.7 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 13.7 minutes
Change in team outlook: +2.8 ppg, +2.9 rpg, and +0.8 apg.


San Antonio Trade Breakdown
Outgoing
Beno Udrih
6-3 PG from Slovenia (Foreign)
3.1 ppg, 0.8 rpg, 1.5 apg in 6.6 minutes
Nazr Mohammed
6-10 C from Kentucky
4.7 ppg, 4.1 rpg, 0.3 apg in 13.7 minutes
Incoming
Jonathan Bender
7-0 SF from Picayune Memorial (HS)
5.0 ppg, 2.0 rpg, 1.0 apg in 10.5 minutes
Change in team outlook: -2.8 ppg, -2.9 rpg, and -0.8 apg.



Successful Scenario
Due to Indiana and San Antonio being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Indiana and San Antonio had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.


Bender is about to retire which would save the Spurs about 6-9 million. Not sure how much his contract was but it was around 9 mill I think.

wildbill2u
02-02-2006, 11:29 AM
In the WOAI teaser, they showed a clip of Nazr.

A trade for Nasr might account for the fact that he's been getting a lot more minutes lately. Showcasing him for another team?

wildbill2u
02-02-2006, 11:31 AM
How about Nazr to the Blazers for Prybilla...er...Prybzyla...er...that tall white guy?

zeleni
02-02-2006, 12:46 PM
That would be too beautiful.