All-Star Starters announced

[T-Pain]

well after all speculation that he wasnt gonna start, turns out hes gonna start after all, way to go Timmy.

im suprised TMac is startin over KG

[Kori Ellis]

Was it officially announced?

[T-Pain]

Was it officially announced?

yes ma'am, just a minute ago

[Vashner]

Ice it down Timmy!

[T-Pain]

Im excited Tim will start, you cant take him for granted. its better to see a spur in there than not at all

[Bruno]

http://www.nba.com/allstar2006/allstar_game/starters_060202.html

EAST FORWARDS
LeBron James (Clev) 2,207,697
Jermaine O’Neal (Ind) 1,291,836
Rasheed Wallace (Det) 866,932
Chris Webber (Phi) 584,579
Grant Hill (Orl) 482,336
Tayshaun Prince (Det) 481,652
Paul Pierce (Bos) 441,218
Chris Bosh (Tor) 352,033
Richard Jefferson (NJ) 307,771
Dwight Howard (Orl) 299,876

EAST GUARDS
Allen Iverson (Phi) 2,062,206
Dwyane Wade (Mia) 1,499,664
Vince Carter (NJ) 1,294,373
Chauncey Billups (Det) 717,006
Jason Kidd (NJ) 594,352
Richard Hamilton (Det) 474,895
Gilbert Arenas (Wash) 453,971
Steve Francis (Orl) 438,892
T.J. Ford (Mil) 210,570
Gary Payton (Mia) 191,424

EAST CENTERS
Shaquille O'Neal (Mia) 2,192,542
Ben Wallace (Det) 1,234,687
Zydrunas Ilgauskas (Clev) 244,322
Andrew Bogut (Mil) 209,705
Michael Olowokandi (Bos) 147,110
Nenad Krstic (NJ) 144,871
Jeff Foster (Ind) 143,911
Samuel Dalembert (Phi) 115,793
Jamaal Magloire (Mil) 112,597*
Eddy Curry (NY) 105,974
Raef LaFrentz (Bos) 88,065

WEST FORWARDS
Tracy McGrady (Hou) 1,818,932
Tim Duncan (SA) 1,518,796
Kevin Garnett (Minn) 1,479,386
Pau Gasol (Mem) 662,916
Dirk Nowitzki (Dal) 626,083
Ron Artest (Sac) 502,886
Carmelo Anthony (Den) 458,410
Elton Brand (LAC) 442,056
Shawn Marion (Pho) 285,505
Amaré Stoudemire (Pho) 270,109

WEST GUARDS
Kobe Bryant (LAL) 2,271,631
Steve Nash (Pho) 1,818,230
Manu Ginobili (SA) 900,935
Ray Allen (Sea) 693,892
Tony Parker (SA) 646,739
Baron Davis (GS) 416,811
Jason Richardson (GS) 303,362
David Wesley (Hou) 280,296
Mike Bibby (Sac) 266,378
Sam Cassell (LAC) 242,456

WEST CENTERS
Yao Ming (Hou) 2,342,738
Marcus Camby (Den) 859,086
Mehmet Okur (Utah) 494,261
Chris Mihm (LAL) 276,556
Brad Miller (Sac) 222,383
Erick Dampier (Dal) 211,342
Chris Kaman (LAC) 182,017
Kurt Thomas (Pho) 116,529
Lorenzen Wright (Mem) 110,446
Joel Przybilla (Por) 62,581

[T-Pain]

East
LeBron James, CLE
Jermaine O'Neal, IND
Allen Iverson, PHI
Dwyane Wade, MIA
Shaquille O'Neal, MIA


West
Tracy McGrady, HOU
Tim Duncan, SA
Steve Nash, PHX
Kobe Bryant, LAL
Yao Ming, HOU

NBA.com just released the official All-Star 2006 website. Pretty cool.
http://www.nba.com/allstar2006/

[thispego]

damn, no way ginobili could be selected... could he?

[T-Pain]

wow, i didnt think manu would come close, now its all up to the coaches.

[ace3g]

he always has a chance to make it, like yao ming, manu has 2 countries voting for him(Argentina/USA)

[spurschick]

I still think that the coaches will go for Tony over Manu this year.

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah I don't think Manu has a chance. Tony will have to contend with Ray Allen, Jason Richardson, Baron Davis and maybe others for the last couple guard spots.

[T-Pain]

hey my two threads just converged, never had that happen before

[Kori Ellis]

hey my two threads just converged, never had that happen before

:)

Yeah I figured it was better if they were merged.

[Dre_7]

How is KG not starting??? He has a Gold freakin Medal!!!!!! Tim only has a bronze! WTF?!?!?!?!?!

[sa_butta]

I would think Tony deserves it over Manu this year.

[T-Pain]

:)

Yeah I figured it was better if they were merged.


thats cool, i thought timmy deserved his own thread but whatevers to the best interest of the forum is fine with me! :spin

[milkyway21]

no offense to Manu but, I'd take Tony over him this yr. Tony deserves it.

and TMac starting over KG? whoaa!
But I'm not surprised Tmac leads the votes.

BTW, when Timmy had more votes than KG once, KG got so excited in the All-Star, played well and won the MVP.
There was one media saying maybe it was the 2nd place of West forwards votes that gave the extra energy:lol

[spurschick]

How is KG not starting??? He has a Gold freakin Medal!!!!!! Tim only has a bronze! WTF?!?!?!?!?!

It's fan voting. Medals have nothing to do with it.

[T-Pain]

no offense to Manu but, I'd take Tony over him this yr. Tony deserves it.


i cant choose, they both deserve it.

[birdy219]

When will we find out about Tony?

Congratulations, Timmy!! There are still some intelligent fan voters out there. :elephant

[ShoogarBear]

How is KG not starting??? He has a Gold freakin Medal!!!!!! Tim only has a bronze! WTF?!?!?!?!?!

:lol

[spurschick]

As Brent Barry put it, Manu gets injured getting out of the car these days. If he went to All-Star weekend, he would probably get temporarily blinded by a flashbulb or something. :lol

[T-Pain]

When will we find out about Tony?

Congratulations, Timmy!! There are still some intelligent fan voters out there. :elephant

next thursday on TNT

[TheTruth]

great news. timmy is the man.

[T-Pain]

great news. timmy is the man.


2-time MVP, 3-time Finals MVP, 2000 All-Star Co-MVP (Shaq) - Hell yeah hes the man

[FreshPrince22]

So who starts instead of Jermaine? Is it the next leader in votes?

[T-Pain]

So who starts instead of Jermaine? Is it the next leader in votes?

good question

[Kori Ellis]

So who starts instead of Jermaine? Is it the next leader in votes?


As far as I know it's not the next leader in votes, it's a coaches' decision. Jermaine still has to go to the All-Star game and participate in all the media stuff, etc.

[TMTTRIO]

Manu's been too injury prone this year while Tony's had an awesome season so far. At least it'll be a good time for Manu to get 100% healed and ready for the second part of this season. We're going to need him ready for the playoffs instead.

[T-Pain]

too bad chauncy isnt starting, i thought he deserved it

[FromWayDowntown]

As far as I know it's not the next leader in votes, it's a coaches' decision. Jermaine still has to go to the All-Star game and participate in all the media stuff, etc.

I think the coaches vote for the next 7, and then from that bunch, a replacement is selected and the Commissioner is then permitted to select a 13th player. I seem to recall a few years ago that a similar situation allowed Vlade Divac to play in the All-Star Game. Someone got hurt and Stern was permitted to choose a replacement. He may be guided by who the fans voted for, or who the players voted for, but I think it's Stern's decision.

[Brutalis]

How's it look for TP and Manu?

And what record will Duncan break in the ASG? 8 consecutive starts?

[FromWayDowntown]

Here's a link to a story to support my last post:

Stern Names Divac to Replace O'Neal (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nba/01allstar/2001-02-07-vlade.htm)

[Brutalis]

Here's a link to a story to support my last post:

Stern Names Divac to Replace O'Neal (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nba/01allstar/2001-02-07-vlade.htm)
Is that a joke?

[Kori Ellis]

Is that a joke?

It's from five years ago.

[milkyway21]

I have a question:

name any other player aside from Duncan who played in the All-Star game in their rookie yr. Duncan was invited, right? LeBron wasn't, if I remember correctly.

[Kori Ellis]

Here's a link to a story to support my last post:

Stern Names Divac to Replace O'Neal (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/nba/01allstar/2001-02-07-vlade.htm)

Yeah I remember something about that. But Divac didn't start, did he? Didn't someone the coaches named start, or did Vlade?

[Brutalis]

So Jerm is injured isnt he? Shaq refuses to goto the ASG or something? I r le confused.

[FromWayDowntown]

Yeah I remember something about that. But Divac didn't start, did he? Didn't someone the coaches named start?

Yes. But I think that's the point. The replacement for Jermaine won't be Rasheed, who is the next-highest vote getter; the replacement starter will be one of the forwards voted-in by the coaches -- if Rasheed is voted in by the coaches, he'll probably start. If Rasheed isn't voted in by the coaches, Stern might appoint him to the All-Star team anyway.

[Kori Ellis]

So Jerm is injured isnt he? Shaq refuses to goto the ASG or something? I r le confused.

We are talking about how Jermaine O'Neal is injured and how the coaches will pick 7 players for the reserves and then Stern will pick players to replace any of the injured starters.

[Brutalis]

We are talking about how Jermaine O'Neal is injured and how the coaches will pick 7 players for the reserves and then Stern will pick players to replace any of the injured starters.
LMAO @ no Piston starters. I bet Sheed or BWall gets the nod over Jerm.

[Bruno]

I have a question:

name any other player aside from Duncan who played in the All-Star game in their rookie yr. Duncan was invited, right? LeBron wasn't, if I remember correctly.

David Robinson
Shaq

[milkyway21]

Yes. But I think that's the point. The replacement for Jermaine won't be Rasheed, who is the next-highest vote getter; the replacement starter will be one of the forwards voted-in by the coaches -- if Rasheed is voted in by the coaches, he'll probably start. If Rasheed isn't voted in by the coaches, Stern might appoint him to the All-Star team anyway.Rasheed doesn't want to participate in the All-Star...he'd rather go to the beach and have cocktails with his wife :lol

[milkyway21]

David Robinson
Shaqdeserving.

thanks much!v :D

[NZHayden]

yeah good stuf for timmy, hope tony can make it to

[DieMrBond]

Don't forget, though, that Commissioner Stern will be selecting a player to replace the injured Jermaine O'Neal after the reserves are chosen. East coach Flip Saunders will decide who actually starts in O'Neal's place, but Le Commish has the final say when it comes to filling out the roster.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=stein_marc&id=2317012

Thats from Marc Steins latest article on who he thinks should be the subs for the all star game. Just thought that might help?

[Kori Ellis]

Thats from Marc Steins latest article on who he thinks should be the subs for the all star game. Just thought that might help?

Interesting that he picks Parker and Paul as the reserve guards.

[milkyway21]

my ohh my there are still a lot of potentials in the West

just for forward position:
KG
Marion
Dirk
Pau

[DannyT]

[QUOTE=Bruno][URL]


WEST GUARDS
Kobe Bryant (LAL) 2,271,631
Steve Nash (Pho) 1,818,230
Manu Ginobili (SA) 900,935


damn i feel bad
i feel like we failed manu
he was just votes away from makin it
but i DO think he will get selected by avery both he and parker
but maybe im just a wishful thinker

[Bruno]

he was just votes away from makin it
but i DO think he will get selected by avery both he and parker
but maybe im just a wishful thinker

He is far from Nash.
It's not Avery who will select the bench players but all the coaches.
It's unlikely that Manu will be selected this year. (too much injuries) :depressed
For parker, finger crossed : he deserves it but he isn't a lock.

[Kori Ellis]

He is far from Nash.

True. I don't get why people keep saying Manu was close. Nash had him more than doubled up. He wasn't close at all.

[spurster]

I see the Spurs getting at least two All-Stars after 2 titles in the last 3 years. I would bet on Tony if there was a vBookie.

[JMarkJohns]

my ohh my there are still a lot of potentials in the West

just for forward position:
KG
Marion
Dirk
Pau

Swap Pau with Brand and name Pau as backup center.

Carmelo is getting jobbed, but oh well. He's not better than any single player mentioned, nor had the impact.

If someone of the starters or reserves sits out, then I see Carmelo being named.

I'd make Parker and Ray Allen the two guards with either Davis or Richardson being the injury replacement.

[T-Pain]

I see the Spurs getting at least two All-Stars after 2 titles in the last 3 years. I would bet on Tony if there was a vBookie.
me too

[yeahone]

go timmy make us proud tony will join you on the squad soon

[milkyway21]

Swap Pau with Brand and name Pau as backup center.

..yeah, how dumb of me to forget Brand.:D


:tu

[angel_luv]

I missed the announcement. :depressed

Was having dinner with my mom. :princess

Way to go Timmy! :elephant

[1Parker1]

Damn, T-Mac and Kobe on the same floor with Nash feeding them the ball and Tim Duncan in the middle? West is sick. :)

[angel_luv]

Damn, T-Mac and Kobe on the same floor with Nash feeding them the ball and Tim Duncan in the middle? West is sick. :)


Too bad they always play so sloppy at all stars. It looks so good on paper and then I watch and sigh :rolleyes

Darn Pop and the fundamental basketball he taught me! :lol

[Viva Las Espuelas]

hey, if the west is sucking avery can always pick the nazi to bitch out everybody. he's pretty good at that.

[koopa]

i hate china now, yao doesn't desevre to even be on the roster, and tmac has been injured to much to even be in the starting lineup, this is why fans shouldn't be allowed to vote anymore

[Darrin]

well after all speculation that he wasnt gonna start, turns out hes gonna start after all, way to go Timmy.

im suprised TMac is startin over KG

No surprises here, if you've been looking at the voting. I think it's a disservice to the West list T-Mac as a forward and not a guard because T-Mac should a reserve, and KG should be starting. If it's not T-Mac, then Ray Allen's probably the best shooting guard out west in terms of the individual players. He doesn't deserve it this season over the forwards like Pau Gasol, Elton Brand, and Shawn Marion. That extra forward spot would come closer to assuring all of them make it.

This is exactly how I thought the voting would go down as soon as I saw the ballot. I expect Tony Parker to be named as a reserve for the West, Billups, Hamilton, and Ben Wallace to be named in the East.

[polandprzem]

The best (by coaches decision) of those 7 guys selected to the bench will be the starter. Someone who replace jarmaine will be on the bench probably (coaches decision)

[milkyway21]

if only Yao's not voted as starter on center we could have Tim playing center then include KG, Brand, & Dirk as forwards in the West.

but you just can't stop the billion people from China to vote for their idol. then, snubbing Yao when Houston's hosting this event.

well, good luck to Tony Parker.

and Billups, too! they deserve the All-Star recognition

BTW, Pops said he'll try to talk to AJ to give Tim limited minutes in the All-Star game(again).

his exact words were:


Popovich doesn't have any worries about Johnson trying to tire Duncan in the game.

Johnson "knows I know where he lives," Popovich said, laughing, "so he won't try to overplay Timmy."

[TDMVPDPOY]

when you guys say a billion voters from china voted yao, then wtf does he only have close to 2million votes only?? i think there is a right per vote for china.....seriously KG punkd by duncan hahhahaha go timmay

[FoxMulder]

he always has a chance to make it, like yao ming, manu has 2 countries voting for him(Argentina/USA)

:lol here we are 33 million people. minus than a quarter have Internet, and even I forgot to vote!!

No chances, most of the votes comes from elsewhere than Arg. This year Manu is getting less attention than past year...

[FoxMulder]

As Brent Barry put it, Manu gets injured getting out of the car these days. If he went to All-Star weekend, he would probably get temporarily blinded by a flashbulb or something. :lol


Tony deserves over Manu...

And I still think Manu needs to rest and get heal of all of his injuries... All Star is just Circus...

Playoffs is the real deal...

2006 Back to Back

[polandprzem]

It's good that the game will be in Houston it gicves the spurs players more time not to travel for exaple to Toronto.

[Sportman]

People i seriously ask you, do you prefer to watch manu playing in the all star gamer or winning another championship and almost getting a MVP??

EASY answer, dont you think?

[SpursWoman]

It's fan voting. Medals have nothing to do with it.


I think he was poking fun at wolves009 ... and his insistance that an Olympic Gold Medal is >>>>>>>>>> 2 Regular Season MVP's, 3 NBA Championships & 3 Finals MVP's. Therefore KG >>>>>>>> TD. :lol



WTG, Timmy! :elephant

[nkdlunch]

Too bad they always play so sloppy at all stars. It looks so good on paper and then I watch and sigh :rolleyes



Just like team USA in the Olympics.


Manu is not gonna be an allstar, he didn't play as much. There's too many good players in the West. Parker deserves it and he will be there. Or else Dough Collins won't be attending.

[smeagol]

Tony will go. Even the TNT announcers were pimping him. :tu

[Duncan21]

nice one timmy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mixability]

True. I don't get why people keep saying Manu was close. Nash had him more than doubled up. He wasn't close at all.

Glad to see you did your part Argentine Mafia.....

:pctoss

[milkyway21]

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/basketball/nba/img9206321.jpg
let's forget Tony Parker this time(i have the feeling he'll be invited).
So,in the above pic who you think deserves Houston invitation as reserves-WC team?

[JMarkJohns]

All deserve it, but because Camby's missed a significant amount of the season, I'd say he's passed over.

Nash, Parker
Bryant, Allen
McGrady, Marion
Duncan, Brand, Dirk, Garnett
Yao, Pau

If any frontcourt player gets injured or sits out, then Carmelo gets the spot. If any guard goes out, then I think Richardson, Davis or Bibby gets the spot. Of the three, I think Bibby is the most deserving from a numbers standpoint.

[manu]

what happens if steve nash gets shot or brakes his own ankle or something.......then would manu start on his place since he got the 3RD BEST amount of votes in the guard position?

[Darrin]

what happens if steve nash gets shot or brakes his own ankle or something.......then would manu start on his place since he got the 3RD BEST amount of votes in the guard position?

Wow, I just went through this discussion on a Pistons board; I thought the rules were common knowledge. The Commish appoints a replacement. Stern doesn't have to choose another guard, he doesn't work off of the fan voting. Steve Nash will still be listed as a part of the 2006 All-Star team, even though he didn't play. Avery Johnson would choose who would start in Nash's place.

Recent replacements:

Elton Brand for Shaquille O'Neal in 2001-02.
Antonio Davis for Theo Ratliff in 2000-01.
Latrell Sprewell for Grant Hill in 2000-01.

[Darrin]

http://images.sportsline.com/u/photos/basketball/nba/img9206321.jpg
let's forget Tony Parker this time(i have the feeling he'll be invited).
So,in the above pic who you think deserves Houston invitation as reserves-WC team?

WC reserves:

G - Tony Parker
G - Chris Paul
F - Dirk Nowitzki
F - Elton Brand
C - Pau Gasol
W - Carmelo Anthony
W - Shawn Marion

Jipped:

KG: I love da Kid, my favorite non-Piston in the NBA, but your Conference is loaded with forwards, and your team sucks.

[JMarkJohns]

Pau is listed as a center.

[Darrin]

Pau is listed as a center.

Thanks. I changed the post.

[JMarkJohns]

Gutsy call on Carmelo over KG. It should probably be that way, I just don't think Carmelo is to the point where he can knock out an MVP from an All-Star game.

Oh how I wish China and Houston didn't have thir heads up their asses and fingers on the vote button in reguards to Yao. McGrady has played more and better when playing, so I'll excuse it, but Yao, this year, is a joke. He's missed close to half the season and is not better than Pau. Switch Duncan to center, and add Carmelo as the extra forward. Oh well...

[Kori Ellis]

WC reserves:

G - Tony Parker
G - Chris Paul (I don't think he'll get it but he should)
F - Dirk Nowitzki
F - Kevin Garnett
C - Pau Gasol
W - Elton Brand
W - Shawn Marion

Carmelo deserves to go because he has great stats and his team is winning, but I think he'll be the odd man out.

They'll probably give Ray Allen the second guard spot, but they shouldn't -- Sonics suck.

[milkyway21]

WC reserves:

G - Tony Parker
G - Chris Paul (I don't think he'll get it but he should)
F - Dirk Nowitzki
F - Kevin Garnett
C - Pau Gasol
W - Elton Brand
W - Shawn Marion

Carmelo deserves to go because he has great stats and his team is winning, but I think he'll be the odd man out.

They'll probably give Ray Allen the second guard spot, but they shouldn't -- Sonics suck.

C - Pau Gasol :tu

..before i forget, may i know how many vacant spots they need to fill in for each WC/EC teams?

[Darrin]

C - Pau Gasol :tu

..before i forget, may i know how many vacant spots they need to fill in for each WC/EC teams?

2 Guards, 2 Forwards, 1 center, and 2 wild cards (any position).


In the East, Jermaine O'Neal definitely has to be replaced; he will not play. Allen Iverson may have to sit out, but that's less certain.

[Slo spurs fan]

Where the FUCK is Rasho???
He should be 2nd center in west team. :smokin

[polandprzem]

WTF?
Is Camby out of the game?

[boutons_]

Marcus Camby has the same problem as Manu, misssed a lot of games due to injury, has only started playing again in the past week or so.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/marcus_camby/index.html

... only 28 games played in 05/06 out of 48 Nuggets games.
He has certainly had All-Star numbers.