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02-11-2006, 07:31 PM
Heat seek turnaround against Pistons
By STEVEN WINE, AP Sports Writer
February 11, 2006

MIAMI (AP) -- Practice had just ended for the Miami Heat, and as forward Antoine Walker discussed their woeful record against the NBA's elite, Shaquille O'Neal quietly came up from behind and began pouring water onto the back of his teammate's neck.

Walker stood up with a jolt, and O'Neal flashed his trademark grin -- a sign there's life left in the Heat.

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One might wonder after their most recent game, a 112-76 meltdown Thursday at Dallas. The Heat's most lopsided loss this season left them 0-7 against the league's four top teams, magnifying the importance of Sunday's home game against the Detroit Pistons.

"We have the best team in the league coming in here," O'Neal said Saturday. "We have to do everything right, especially in our building. It's going to be an exciting place Sunday, and we look forward to stepping up to the challenge."BULL SHIT SPURS ARE CHAMPS TELL PROVEN OTHERWISE

That would be a breakthrough, because such challenges have typically brought out the worst in the Heat. They have 0-2 records against Dallas, Phoenix and San Antonio -- the best of the West -- and lost their only previous game against the Pistons in December.

Miami is 1-9 versus the other division leaders, with the only win over New Jersey in the first week of the season.

"It's a little bit discouraging, but it's something we can't dwell on," O'Neal said. "We have to realize guys are going to play way above their heads when they play us. We have to find a way to match their effort."

The Heat lead the Southeast Division at 30-20, but they've seldom played like the potential title contenders they were touted to be when the season began.

Miami was eliminated by Detroit in last year's Eastern Conference finals, and many envision the playoffs going the same way again -- if the Heat advance that far.

"We haven't played very well against the top teams in the league, and everybody believes they know what's going to happen to us come April," Walker said. "Sunday is a big game for our confidence -- to get a win against a quality team."

A victory over Detroit would indeed be noteworthy. Despite a two-game losing streak earlier this month, the Pistons are off to their best start ever and have the NBA's best record at 41-8.

They expect a strong effort from the Heat.

"We know it's going to be a playoff atmosphere," Detroit's Rasheed Wallace said. "We only played them once, and we can't sit here and brag and have a chip on our shoulder like, 'We put them out last year and we beat them early this year.' Because you can be beat on any given night in this league."

As the Heat prepared for Detroit, the Dallas disaster was still on their minds. Miami committed 19 turnovers and looked awful on defense, struggling to keep up with the Mavericks in the half court.

"We got killed," Walker said. "We have to improve against the good teams. We're very frustrated with it. On Sunday we get a chance to correct that."

The Heat went through a major roster shakeup last offseason, then lost O'Neal for 18 games because of a sprained ankle and changed coaches in December when Pat Riley replaced Stan Van Gundy. Guard Jason Williams has battled injuries all season, and now center Alonzo Mourning is recovering from the flu, leaving his availability Sunday in question.

O'Neal believes the Heat have another gear and will soon shift into it.

"It's a long season," he said. "We know what we have to do. We just have to go out and do it and stop talking about it."

Beginning Tuesday, only two of the Heat's next 16 opponents are above .500. Such a soft stretch may help them pad their record, but to prove they can beat the elite, they need a win Sunday.

AP Sports Writer Travis Reed in Orlando contributed to this report.

FreshPrince22
02-11-2006, 07:58 PM
You gotta win more than 1 game to prove you're "elite".

GO SPurs Go
02-11-2006, 08:06 PM
The heat suck balls, theres no fucking way they're passing the second round, much less sweeping it like last year. As someone who lives in Miami and has season tickets (no I'm not lying I just like to watch games) I can tell you that Reilly really screwed up the team last year. Walker and Posey are a fucking disaster and Williams is out half the time. Kapono doesn't do shit and Payton is already so old he's probably monopausic. But hey, who cares, GO SPURS GO

baseline bum
02-11-2006, 09:16 PM
Miami is the worst 2-seed I've ever seen. This team would easily be a first round out in the West. Antonie Walker is so perfect for screwing up teams that look like they're on the verge of greatness (see the 2003 Mavs).

ABDENOUR POWER
02-11-2006, 10:35 PM
Miami will win sunday. They are going to be busting their asses to try to prove they can beat an elite team .... this game means a lot more to Miami than it does to Detroit.

1Parker1
02-11-2006, 10:53 PM
They have 0-2 records against Dallas, Phoenix and San Antonio -- the best of the West -- and lost their only previous game against the Pistons in December.


Ouch, that's a really bad stat to have. Not to mention they've even split the season series against the 8th seed in the West...the Lakers :lol

1Parker1
02-11-2006, 10:54 PM
Miami will win sunday. They are going to be busting their asses to try to prove they can beat an elite team .... this game means a lot more to Miami than it does to Detroit.

Yea, that's what I'm thinking. Pistons will end up crushing them in the postseason, should the two teams meet anyways.

reader
02-12-2006, 12:52 AM
I think Wade has become delusional, check these comments.

Wade said the blowout loss to Dallas didn't shake his confidence.

``In any locker room, you feel [like you can beat those teams]. The only thing about those teams is that they are as good as they are going to get. We're not close to being as good as we can get."

He really believes that these "elite" teams are not improving, not building confidence in themselves, that they cannot refine their offense and defense as the season progresses?

I guess no one told Wade that the Suns beat them, twice, without Amare Stoudemire? I believe the Suns have some room for improvement when Stoudemire returns.

Way to know your competition, as though the Spurs, Dallas and Detroit have peaked.

Darrin
02-12-2006, 01:56 AM
Miami will win sunday. They are going to be busting their asses to try to prove they can beat an elite team .... this game means a lot more to Miami than it does to Detroit.

I think this game is important to the Pistons, but not because of the opponent. The Pistons are 4-3 in the seven games since their 11-game win streak ended. It would be great if the Pistons could get this game, and the one against New Jersey just to carry some momentum into the All-Star Break.

But in terms of playing the Heat specifically, yes, this is a much more important matchup for them. Just as it was more important for the Pistons when they played the Spurs this season.

jochhejaam
02-12-2006, 04:12 AM
Miami will win sunday. They are going to be busting their asses to try to prove they can beat an elite team .... this game means a lot more to Miami than it does to Detroit.

Detroit's players are confident and have a lot of pride and I believe they want it just as much as the Heat's players.
I think the Dallas game meant much more to the Heat than the Mavs and the outcome was still one-sided. That "the game means more" in and of itself isn't going to be enough to carry them to victory over the Pistons either IMO.
Confidence>Desperation


Shake that pessimism Abs. :lol

Trainwreck2100
02-12-2006, 04:20 AM
One game can really launch them in the right direction, in 99 the Spurs won at Arco, and didn't look back. That being said Heat will prob lose.

Spurologist
02-12-2006, 05:16 PM
One game can really launch them in the right direction, in 99 the Spurs won at Arco, and didn't look back. That being said Heat will prob lose.

correct

CubanMustGo
02-12-2006, 05:50 PM
Crap, Miami has closed to w/i three with 3:45 left.

King
02-12-2006, 05:57 PM
Chauncey Billups is un-freaking-believable

Horry For 3!
02-12-2006, 06:07 PM
Heat :tu

SAtown
02-12-2006, 06:08 PM
Wade is un-freaking-believable.

Low End Specialist
02-12-2006, 06:11 PM
Wade outplayed everyone who on that court without a doubt. Awesome games all around this Sunday. :)

Marklar MM
02-13-2006, 03:08 PM
Maybe Saunders will play Delfino more...he is a better fucking defender than Prince.