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Nbadan
02-12-2006, 04:59 AM
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President Bush shaking hands in 2001 with Chief Raul Garza of the Kickapoo tribe of Texas. In the background at left is the lobbyist Jack Abramoff; Karl Rove, the president's top adviser, is at the right.


WASHINGTON, Feb. 11 — After weeks in which the White House has declined to release pictures of President Bush with Jack Abramoff, the disgraced lobbyist, the first photograph to be published of the two men shows a small, partly obscured image of Mr. Abramoff looking on from the background as Mr. Bush greets a Texas Indian chief in May 2001.

By itself, the picture hardly seems worthy of the White House's efforts to keep it out of the public eye. Mr. Abramoff, a leading Republican fund-raiser who pleaded guilty last month to conspiring to corrupt public officials, is little more than a blurry, bearded figure in the background at a gathering of about two dozen people.

But it provides a window, albeit an opaque one, into Mr. Abramoff's efforts to sell himself to Indian tribes as a man of influence who could open the most secure doors in Washington to them. And it leaves unanswered questions about how Mr. Abramoff and the tribal leader, whom he was trying to sign as a client, gained access to a meeting with the president on the White House grounds that was ostensibly for a group of state legislators who were supporting Mr. Bush's 2001 tax cut plan.

The White House confirmed the authenticity of the photograph. It was provided to The New York Times by the Indian chief, Raul Garza of the Kickapoo tribe of southwest Texas. Mr. Garza, who is under indictment on federal charges of embezzling money from his tribe, said he was eager to demonstrate that he had "nothing to hide" in his dealings with the White House and Mr. Abramoff.

A lawyer for Mr. Garza said Mr. Abramoff arranged for the chief to attend the meeting, in a conference room in the Eisenhower Executive Office Building adjacent to the White House. The meeting took place at a time when the lobbyist was seeking a contract to represent the 800-member tribe and its casino, which was producing hundreds of thousands of dollars a month in revenue. Mr. Abramoff never got the contract.

It is not clear what contact, if any, Mr. Abramoff had with Mr. Bush during the 20 minutes or so that the session lasted.

Mr. Garza said he had been offered money from news organizations to reproduce the photograph, which also shows in partial profile Karl Rove, the president's top political adviser, at the May 9, 2001, meeting. The chief did not seek payment from The Times for the photo or two others in which he appears with Mr. Bush.

The picture was taken by a White House photographer.

The president's spokesman, Scott McClellan, said Friday that the presence of the lobbyist and Mr. Garza at the meeting, which was organized to thank a group of state legislators who supported the president's 2001 tax cut program, did not suggest that Mr. Abramoff had any special influence at the White House.

NY Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2006/02/12/politics/12lobby.html?_r=1&oref=login)

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Murphy
02-12-2006, 11:05 AM
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid also took money from Abramoff

xrayzebra
02-12-2006, 11:06 AM
^^They don't count. They are dimm-o-craps. They cant be influenced.

exstatic
02-12-2006, 11:44 AM
^^They don't count. They are dimm-o-craps. They cant be influenced.

Not quite correct. Taking money from any lobbyist is not a crime. Taking money in return for actions is. It's not that they can't be influenced, it's that, as the minority party in a partisan time, they HAVE no influence. A bill sponsored by a Democrat has about as much chance of being passed in the current climate as you have of being admitted to MENSA.

George W Bush
02-12-2006, 12:33 PM
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Hey, there's my friend.

gtownspur
02-12-2006, 01:57 PM
Not quite correct. Taking money from any lobbyist is not a crime. Taking money in return for actions is. It's not that they can't be influenced, it's that, as the minority party in a partisan time, they HAVE no influence. A bill sponsored by a Democrat has about as much chance of being passed in the current climate as you have of being admitted to MENSA.


Wrong!

Being the Minority party wont sheild you from violating ethics laws. That's why they're ethics laws and not handicap laws for the winners.

George W Bush
02-12-2006, 02:12 PM
ethics laws

I hate ethnics.

God Bless America :tu

Vashner
02-12-2006, 02:45 PM
LOL so? There is a picture of Jessie Jackson, Bill Clinton, Hillary etc with Bush...

Does that mean anything? No.. millions of people try or have tried to get a picture with the president. The guy was a lobbyist...

B I G F U K I N G deal....

Look at pic of a lobbyist and a president...

Patheic fishing this is all you got?

The only thing I hear is how Reid is tied to this guy big time.. how does that help ya'll?

IT FUCKING DOESNT YOU LOOK LIKE a bunch of barbie collecting fucking crybabies..

Yonivore
02-14-2006, 09:37 AM
Time Magazine has released photo #2:


http://www.blogsforbush.com/images/bush_jack.jpg
Bush (with the red arrow pointing at him) is in Crawford, TX, while Jack Abramoff (with the orange arrow pointing at him) is in Washington D.C.

Shocking... absolutely shocking.

Johnny_Blaze_47
02-14-2006, 09:47 AM
Time Magazine has released photo #2:


http://www.blogsforbush.com/images/bush_jack.jpg
Bush (with the red arrow pointing at him) is in Crawford, TX, while Jack Abramoff (with the orange arrow pointing at him) is in Washington D.C.

Shocking... absolutely shocking.

Whoever you are, you have to admit that was funny.

JoeChalupa
02-15-2006, 11:32 AM
Time Magazine has released photo #2:


http://www.blogsforbush.com/images/bush_jack.jpg
Bush (with the red arrow pointing at him) is in Crawford, TX, while Jack Abramoff (with the orange arrow pointing at him) is in Washington D.C.

Shocking... absolutely shocking.

Brahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!! You crack me up!!! :lol


That reminds of the satellite pics of the WMD's!! :lol

SA210
02-15-2006, 11:54 AM
President Bush and Jack Abramoff met before

David Shuster reports on unpublished photos of the duo

By David Shuster
MSNBC Correspondent
MSNBC
Updated: 1:28 p.m. ET Feb. 13, 2006


It was two weeks ago when President Bush publicly tried to distance himself from Jack Abramoff, the Republican lobbyist who has pled guilty to conspiracy and corruption charges.

GEORGE W. BUSH, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: You know, I frankly don't even remember having my picture taken with the guy. I don't know him.

But according to Abramoff in an email to Kim Eisler of “Washingtonian Magazine” and reported by “The Washington Post” Abramoff said that Bush, “has one of the best memories of any politician I have ever met. The guy me in almost a dozen settings and joked with me about a bunch of things, including details of my kids.”

Eisler says Abramoff was the source of his exclusive report last month that there are at least five photographs of the president and Abramoff together.

When the story broke, White House officials said Abramoff and President Bush only interacted at holiday parties.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: We acknowledge that he attended some Hanukkah receptions.

And President Bush downplayed the significance of any photographs pointing to social interactions with reporters.

BUSH: Having my picture taken with someone doesn't mean that, you know, I'm a friend with him or know him very well. I've had my picture taken with you at holiday parties.

But Eisler has told colleagues that none of the Abramoff-Bush photos he saw at Abramoff's house were from holiday parties.

According to Eisler, one shows the president shaking hands with Abramoff at a fund-raising reception to the Corcoran Gallery of Art. Another shows Abramoff's wife with Laura Bush, and another photograph allegedly shows the president with Abramoff inside the old executive office building.

Jack Abramoff raised $100,000 for the Bush-Cheney reelection campaign, and Abramoff has told friends he was on the list of fund-raisers invited to a barbecue three years ago at the president's Texas ranch.

The latest “Washington Post” poll shows 76 percent of Americans believe the president should disclose all White House contacts and photographs with Abramoff.

But administration officials say the president's position has not changed.

BUSH: I mean, there are thousands of people that come through and get their pictures taken. I'm also mindful that we live in a world in which those pictures will be used for pure political purposes.

Politics though is why the White House takes these photos to begin with.

Four years ago the White House gave this picture of the president taken on 9-11 to the Republican National Committee so the photo could be copied and sold in a Republican campaign fund-raiser.

The tape from Jack Abramoff, however, has also reached a top Democrat. Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid acknowledges writing letters to help Indian tribes, and Reid's staff discussed gambling legislation with Abramoff's lobbying firm during a three year period when the firm gave Reid $68,000 in donations.

But Reid's office says the actions were to protect the interest of Nevada, and a spokesman said, quote, “Senator Reid never met Jack Abramoff and never has taken contributions from him.”

At the White House where Abramoff did meet President Bush, the sharp exchanges between the press corps and the press secretary continues.

SCOTT MCCLELLAN, WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY: I think as the president also indicated, he's taken at least five photos with many people in this room at the annual holiday reception. And so I think you need to put this in context.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Would he still then be saying that he does not remember meeting Abramoff on a dozen occasions? :lmao

MCCLELLAN: You heard directly from the president on this matter.

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: But we haven't. We heard him say he didn't know him. We didn't know there were as many meetings as this at that time.

MCCLELLAN: Keep going. Go ahead.

While McClellan would like the subject to change, the questions may keep coming. A court hearing is coming up for former White House procurement official charged in the Abramoff scandal.

And even Republicans on Capitol Hill say the administration's refusal to detail Abramoff's access is leaving the impression the White House has something to hide.

© 2006 MSNBC Interactive

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Ocotillo
02-15-2006, 03:04 PM
Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid also took money from Abramoff

Actually, they did not. Check FEC records.

xrayzebra
02-15-2006, 03:20 PM
Actually, they did not. Check FEC records.

Your right, they took it from people Abramhoff told to contribute. :lol

Ocotillo
02-15-2006, 03:48 PM
Your right, they took it from people Abramhoff told to contribute. :lol

Records show that contributions to Democratic elected officials declined once Abramoff took over their lobbying efforts. If Abramoff was directing the tribes on who to give money to, it wasn't Pelosi and Reid.