Hugo Chavez Taunts Condolence [Archive]

Nbadan

02-20-2006, 01:41 AM

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“Don’t mess with me Condoleezza. Don’t mess with me, girl,” Chavez said during his weekly Sunday broadcast, sarcastically offering her a kiss and jokingly referring to her as “Condolence.”

The warning comes days after Rice described Venezuela as one of the “biggest problems” for the Western Hemisphere and promised to develop regional alliances as part of an “inoculation” strategy to expose what the State Department calls anti-democratic behavior in Venezuela.

Chavez, a former soldier turned populist leader, has promised to create socialist revolution in Venezuela and promote regional integration in Latin America to roll back U.S.-supported economic reforms.

The State Department says Chavez is using the nation’s bountiful oil wealth to meddle in the affairs of neighboring countries, and has slammed him for boosting ties to U.S. foes like Cuba and Iran.

MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9924691/print/1/displaymode/1098/)

From another article:

Venezuela's President Hugo Chavez is one of the biggest dangers facing Latin America, Washington has said.
US secretary of state Condoleezza Rice said Mr Chavez was trying to influence others away from democracy, and called for a united front against him.

President Chavez responded by accusing the US of aggression, saying "world opinion is with Venezuela".

Addressing a congressional hearing on Thursday, Ms Rice accused Mr Chavez of leading a "Latin brand of populism that has taken countries down the drain".

BBC News (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4723902.stm)

"brand of populism that has taken countries down the drain"

:lol

Condolense should check the books again. Maybe she was looking at the U.S. books under the current WH? Venezuela has a multi-billion dollar surplus that it is investing internally.

cecil collins

02-20-2006, 03:03 AM

:lol

Condolense should check the books again. Maybe she was looking at the U.S. books under the current WH? Venezuela has a multi-billion dollar surplus that it is investing internally.
So starts the propaganda to demonize Venezuala as a national threat. People are so damn afraid of socialism because they are so damn in love with money.

Nbadan

02-20-2006, 03:08 AM

So starts the propaganda to demonize Venezuala as a national threat. People are so damn afraid of socialism because they are so damn in love with money.

Oh, it's been going on for along time. Venezuela's rich are as right as they are here, even more so, and they would love to lead another coupt' against Chavez with the aid of the U.S...

xrayzebra

02-20-2006, 11:18 AM

Oh yes, lets have another Socialist dictator. Everyone knows they are so
wonderful, just look what Castro has done for Cuba. He is now going to
change the constitution there so he can stay in office.....yeah, he such a nice
guy.

RandomGuy

02-20-2006, 03:56 PM

Chavez is an idiot with an ego that is a bit too big for his britches...

BIG DADDY JOSH

02-20-2006, 05:27 PM

Russia Attacks from our west
the middle eastern enemies from our east
and now venenzuela from the south
............... i see another WW in the making.....

xrayzebra

02-20-2006, 05:30 PM

Russia Attacks from our west
the middle eastern enemies from our east
and now venenzuela from the south
............... i see another WW in the making.....

We are in one now, in case you don't know. Have been since 9/11.
Most of it is unseen. Especially to the dimm-o-craps and supporters.

Nbadan

02-20-2006, 05:31 PM

Russia Attacks from our west
the middle eastern enemies from our east
and now venenzuela from the south
............... i see another WW in the making.....

There are already 7 war fronts involving U.S troops in the war on terror. It's alarming that we have not instituted a draft.

Winnipeg_Spur

02-20-2006, 07:03 PM

We are in one now, in case you don't know. Have been since 9/11.
Most of it is unseen. Especially to the dimm-o-craps and supporters.

http://simpsonloft.com/alfaperso/albums/2/barlowbirch.jpg

So, my friends, let's just junk those Dumbocrats and their bleeding-heart smellfare program.

smeagol

02-20-2006, 07:18 PM

I've said it once and I will say it a million times.

Chavez is an Idiot (capital I).

Americans supporting Chavez simply boggles my mind.

You should try living under socialism. Not fun, I tell ya.

smeagol

02-20-2006, 07:18 PM

People are so damn afraid of socialism because they are so damn in love with money.

That I can agree with.

BigZak

02-20-2006, 07:29 PM

It's alarming that we have not instituted a draft.

:lol

BigZak

02-20-2006, 07:30 PM

I've said it once and I will say it a million times.

Chavez is an Idiot (capital I).

Americans supporting simply boggles my mind.

You should try living under socialism. Not fun, I tell ya.

your preaching to the free.

exstatic

02-20-2006, 07:34 PM

smeagol

02-20-2006, 10:00 PM

It doesn't really matter what WE think. He is popular with his people.

50% of the country loves him, 50% hates him. Not sure that is the best definition of "popularity".

Nbadan

02-20-2006, 11:51 PM

50% of the country loves him, 50% hates him. Not sure that is the best definition of "popularity".

I would say the breakdown is closer to 70% like versus 30% dislike. Just happens that the 30% dislike own most of the money (assets).

MaNuMaNiAc

02-21-2006, 12:36 AM

Oh, it's been going on for along time. Venezuela's rich are as right as they are here, even more so, and they would love to lead another coupt' against Chavez with the aid of the U.S...
Dan... nevermind. Yet again you comment on shit you have ABSOLUTELY no clue about. Ever lived under a socialist regime, on such as Chavez? You think Venezuela's economy is booming?? THEY PRODUCE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!! All of Venezuela's money comes from oil. Right now, everyone's happy because oil prices are sky high, but wait 'till the prices go down, and they will. Chavez is going to have a hard time explaining to his "voters" that he flushed the country down the toilet.

You're as ignorant as they come, and the worst part is you actually think you know shit. http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif Incredible

Vashner

02-21-2006, 01:18 AM

Condi will strap on her black high heel boots and step on his fuckn chicken neck throat.

Then she will bite off his head and shit down his neck...

gtownspur

02-21-2006, 02:51 AM

I would say the breakdown is closer to 70% like versus 30% dislike. Just happens that the 30% dislike own most of the money (assets).

Socialism is fine, in some areas. Dont let Chavez be your posterboy for socialism.

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

02-21-2006, 03:47 AM

MaNuMaNiAc

02-21-2006, 03:51 AM

Chavez isn't socialist for christ sake, he is a populist. That means he has no "right or wrong" moral, or "left or right" ideas, everything he does is to keep and build power.

His rhetoric is based on Latin American independency, a strong anti-US posture, and communist social and economical politics. Of course in the real world he sells oil to the best offer no matter where the money comes from, as any capitalist would do.
My bad, you're exactly right, he's not a socialist, he is a populist

xrayzebra

02-21-2006, 10:12 AM

^^He is a Socialist, and a racist too by American standards. Referring to
Ms. Rice as "girl". Like calling a black man: boy. He is a tin horn dictator in the
making.

Hook Dem

02-21-2006, 10:36 AM

Dan... nevermind. Yet again you comment on shit you have ABSOLUTELY no clue about. Ever lived under a socialist regime, on such as Chavez? You think Venezuela's economy is booming?? THEY PRODUCE ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!! All of Venezuela's money comes from oil. Right now, everyone's happy because oil prices are sky high, but wait 'till the prices go down, and they will. Chavez is going to have a hard time explaining to his "voters" that he flushed the country down the toilet.

You're as ignorant as they come, and the worst part is you actually think you know shit. http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif Incredible
WELL SAID !!!! ....but 'ol Dan ain't gonna like it. :lol :lol :lol

BIG DADDY JOSH

02-21-2006, 01:40 PM

We are in one now, in case you don't know. Have been since 9/11.
Most of it is unseen. Especially to the dimm-o-craps and supporters.

the meaning of war sure has changed........................

hendrix

02-21-2006, 03:19 PM

I've said it once and I will say it a million times.
Chavez is an Idiot (capital I).
Americans supporting Chavez simply boggles my mind.
You should try living under socialism. Not fun, I tell ya.

what socialist country did you lived in?

cecil collins

02-21-2006, 03:32 PM

^^He is a Socialist, and a racist too by American standards. Referring to
Ms. Rice as "girl". Like calling a black man: boy. He is a tin horn dictator in the
making.
Where in your example is there racism? Sexism, sure, but I don't see racism.

You should try living under socialism. Not fun, I tell ya.
A good number of people would say the same about capatilism.

Americans supporting Chavez simply boggles my mind.
I wouldn't call myself a supporter, but I think that in a country with resources such as Venezuala, socialism can be a good thing. Capatilists would just hoard all the income from it and a larger number of people would be terribly poor. I don't really know how it is for the people in the country, and would be open to any first hand info. Also, I would hate to see another war just because they are not capatilists. Fuck the domino theory. If the system sucks so bad, why would so many dominoes fall. Rich white people are just afraid of losing control of their third world cash cows.

implacable44

02-21-2006, 04:06 PM

I would say the breakdown is closer to 70% like versus 30% dislike. Just happens that the 30% dislike own most of the money (assets).

oh did you just get back from conducting that poll ?

Funny how the socialists - these self-appointed leaders of this form of government live high on the hog while the commoners suffer. of course Castro wants to change the constitution and Chavez - who might be the biggest idiot on the planet- writing checks his behind can't cash promotes this type of government - it keeps him semi-popular with the people - he still can wallow in the state of corruption he thrives in catering to those with lots of money who he deems worthy to participate in this corruption and the people who are less educated think it is wonderful that Chavez entitles them to health care - food - etc when in reality he is stealing all of the peoples money.

implacable44

02-21-2006, 04:08 PM

Where in your example is there racism? Sexism, sure, but I don't see racism.

A good number of people would say the same about capatilism.

I wouldn't call myself a supporter, but I think that in a country with resources such as Venezuala, socialism can be a good thing. Capatilists would just hoard all the income from it and a larger number of people would be terribly poor. I don't really know how it is for the people in the country, and would be open to any first hand info. Also, I would hate to see another war just because they are not capatilists. Fuck the domino theory. If the system sucks so bad, why would so many dominoes fall. Rich white people are just afraid of losing control of their third world cash cows.

How do you think those people are living now under Chavez?

nkdlunch

02-21-2006, 04:12 PM

goddamm i'm gonna have nightmares tonight
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v313/Bush_Eats_Beef/GRRRRR2.jpg

smeagol

02-21-2006, 04:23 PM

what socialist country did you lived in?
I never said I did.

Living in Argentina in the 70s and 80s is as close as I got.

xrayzebra

02-21-2006, 05:51 PM

Where in your example is there racism? Sexism, sure, but I don't see racism.

A good number of people would say the same about capatilism.

I wouldn't call myself a supporter, but I think that in a country with resources such as Venezuala, socialism can be a good thing. Capatilists would just hoard all the income from it and a larger number of people would be terribly poor. I don't really know how it is for the people in the country, and would be open to any first hand info. Also, I would hate to see another war just because they are not capatilists. Fuck the domino theory. If the system sucks so bad, why would so many dominoes fall. Rich white people are just afraid of losing control of their third world cash cows.

Call a black man "boy" and see what he says/does to you. Smart butt.

gtownspur

02-22-2006, 12:12 AM

what socialist country did you lived in?

You should awnser your own question.

cecil collins

02-22-2006, 04:36 AM

Call a black man "boy" and see what he says/does to you. Smart butt.
Never tried it, it must be an old white guy thing. Besides that, he is from Venezuala. He hasn't experienced the racial division(white/black) that you did.

MaNuMaNiAc

02-22-2006, 05:01 AM

Never tried it, it must be an old white guy thing. Besides that, he is from Venezuala. He hasn't experienced the racial division(white/black) that you did.
Yo cecil, have you ever been to Venezuela?

cecil collins

02-22-2006, 05:15 AM

Yo cecil, have you ever been to Venezuela?
No sir.

MaNuMaNiAc

02-22-2006, 06:32 AM

No sir.
Then how do you know what Chavez has experienced? or any other Venezuelan for that matter? If you people are going to advocate Chavez's dictatorship (because that is what it is) then I suggest you try a live under his government for a while, say like hmm... I don't know, 8 years, and then see if you still speak so well about populism or socialism.

hendrix

02-22-2006, 10:17 AM

I never said I did.

Living in Argentina in the 70s and 80s is as close as I got.

What???
OK, I accept that the first period of Alfonsin (president 1983-1989) was a little bit center-left... just a little bit. But that was mainly beacuse we came from the dictatorship of the 76-83 and to me, most of the things that could be considered "lefty" were fair enough (Military Junta trials, etc, etc).
Peron during the begining of the 70s.... we all know thats populism, like Chavez. Could be considered as "lefty" by most right-wingers, so no surprise there.

I know you didnt mean Argentina as a socialist country (although you are saying "as close as i got"), so this answer is mainly to gtownspur. He knows shit about Argentina.

velik_m

02-22-2006, 10:48 AM

You should try living under socialism. Not fun, I tell ya.

I disagree - living under socialism was much fun! :angel

Peter

02-22-2006, 10:52 AM

Chavez is an idiot with an ego that is a bit too big for his britches...

Can't disagree.

Peter

02-22-2006, 10:54 AM

It doesn't really matter what WE think. He is popular with his people.

Something to think about. If there WERE a model under which socialism could work, it would be in a country with a money tree, i.e. oil exports.

Right, socialism "works" when there is a significantly private market for their primary export.

101A

02-22-2006, 11:13 AM

Right, socialism "works" when there is a significantly private market for their primary export.

:lol

Translation: Socialism can work in ONE country when there are other, rich, capitilist countries who want to buy crap from the Socialist country!! What happens if all the countries are socialist and there ARE NO rich ones?? :spin

nkdlunch

02-22-2006, 11:17 AM

the popular masses of Venezuela are with Chavez, that's a fact no matter how the US wants to twist it. So Chavez is rightfully in power. Now, he might be secretly eliminating his opponets, that is most likely true, but this thing happens all the time all over the world.

yes he does have a big mouth and acts like a fool, but that doesn't make venezuela part of axis of evil :rolleyes get real.

Nbadan

02-22-2006, 01:36 PM

Right, socialism "works" when there is a significantly private market for their primary export.

I agree, look at China. Socially, people are still as repressed as ever, but wages are so low that in a NAFTA-filled, free market world economy they will easily out-produce any other country. This is the real danger in China’s growing dominance.

xrayzebra

02-22-2006, 03:20 PM

No Dan, once again you are wrong. It is the size of their armed forces. And
ambitions for world dominance.

hendrix

02-22-2006, 07:16 PM

No Dan, once again you are wrong. It is the size of their armed forces. And ambitions for world dominance.

By the way, you are not looking thru a glass... that's a mirror.

RandomGuy

02-22-2006, 07:39 PM

Chavez isn't socialist for christ sake, he is a populist. That means he has no "right or wrong" moral, or "left or right" ideas, everything he does is to keep and build power.

His rhetoric is based on Latin American independency, a strong anti-US posture, and communist social and economical politics. Of course in the real world he sells oil to the best offer no matter where the money comes from, as any capitalist would do.

One of the more accurate assessments.

His threats to cut off the biggest buyer of his oil are hot air. He has made a lot of promises to keep himself in power and wouldn't be able to pay for those promises if he did that.

smeagol

02-23-2006, 06:08 AM

By the way, you are not looking thru a glass... that's a mirror.
:lol

nkdlunch

02-23-2006, 11:22 AM

By the way, you are not looking thru a glass... that's a mirror.

:lmao

:owned

cheguevara

02-23-2006, 12:40 PM

By the way, you are not looking thru a glass... that's a mirror.

mhuhhahauahauahuahahahahahah!!!!

gtownspur

02-23-2006, 12:55 PM

By the way, you are not looking thru a glass... that's a mirror.

It's better to look thru a mirror and not a gun barrel, but i guess you don't see the horror in Argentina becoming New Venezuela.

Well, i hope you dont wet your argentinian panties over our supreme power. Why should we invade you?

If you dont care what's going on in venezuela, and you dismiss political assasinations as ok because they happen all the time, then i should expect you to wear knee pads and bow to the US because we're a superpower and according to you we're practicing imperialism, which must i remind you happens all the time.

So if you dont care about dictators oppressing dissidents, you shouldn't give a rats ass about a country oppressing that very same dictator, unless you think that leftist ideology is the evil twin of poetic justice.

But go ahead. Just because a populist dictatorship is somewhat close to your leftist ideology, you don't have to support as if it's the only thing carry water for your pathetic viewpoint.

cheguevara

02-23-2006, 01:01 PM

:lol looks like hendrix hit a sensitive area

gtownspur

02-23-2006, 01:04 PM

looks like hendrix can suffice by himself and doesnt need your pathetic cheerleading efforts.

cheguevara

02-23-2006, 01:24 PM

yes mama

gtownspur

02-23-2006, 01:27 PM

Your right, tu, si mamas.

cheguevara

02-23-2006, 01:31 PM

Your right, tu, si mamas.

yeah mamo only your mama's

gtownspur

02-23-2006, 01:33 PM

you forgot to add "y mamo tu papas."

cheguevara

02-23-2006, 01:34 PM

you forgot to add "y mamo tu papas."

tu papas muy chiquito :lol

gtownspur

02-23-2006, 01:36 PM

but picoso enough for you amigo.:lol

cheguevara

02-23-2006, 01:42 PM

:lol

MaNuMaNiAc

02-23-2006, 02:08 PM

It's better to look thru a mirror and not a gun barrel, but i guess you don't see the horror in Argentina becoming New Venezuela.

Well, i hope you dont wet your argentinian panties over our supreme power. Why should we invade you?

If you dont care what's going on in venezuela, and you dismiss political assasinations as ok because they happen all the time, then i should expect you to wear knee pads and bow to the US because we're a superpower and according to you we're practicing imperialism, which must i remind you happens all the time.

So if you dont care about dictators oppressing dissidents, you shouldn't give a rats ass about a country oppressing that very same dictator, unless you think that leftist ideology is the evil twin of poetic justice.

But go ahead. Just because a populist dictatorship is somewhat close to your leftist ideology, you don't have to support as if it's the only thing carry water for your pathetic viewpoint.
Say what?? http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif I couldn't understand what the hell he was saying. Can anybody elaborate?