KG to the Knicks?

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link (http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/39251/20060221/garnett_to_the_big_apple/) Garnett To The Big Apple?
21st February, 2006 - 10:51 pm
Christopher Reina/RealGM - A source close to the participants in the talks told Christopher Reina late Tuesday night that New York and Minnesota are in serious and ongoing discussions about a deal which would send Kevin Garnett to the Knicks in exchange for Penny Hardaway and Channing Frye. Isiah Thomas, who has called Frye untouchable all season, is willing to give up the sought after rookie to land the future Hall of Famer.

Garnett has made it clear to the front office that should he be dealt, he wants to go to New York and that wish will be fulfilled if the Timberwolves decide to end the KG era and begin to rebuild. They reportedly respect Garnett and all that he has done for both the franchise and the area not to trade him to his preferred team.

The question of if the Wolves want to move on without Garnett will be the deciding factor in whether a trade gets completed before Thursday.

This deal delayed last week's Knicks discussions with the Magic regarding Steve Francis and it is why it will be Jamal Crawford and Maurice Taylor going to Orlando for their first time, instead of Hardaway’s second. That deal is all but complete, but Orlando is waiting to see if Denver returns to the table before the deadline.

If the Wolves choose to retain Garnett, the Knicks will turn to Denver and Kenyon Martin, a player that Larry Brown covets. [READ]

[E20]

The Wolves would get fucked with that trade................

[Solid D]

That's whack.

[ducks]

I WANT FRYE
that trade ONLY makes sence for the wolves IF THEY GET PICKS ALSO

[T-Pain]

The Wolves would get fucked with that trade................


no doubt in my mind the wolves will be fucked

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Curry
KG
Marbury
Francis

Would be interesting.

[Budkin]

KG for Hardaway and Frye? Man that would be just about the worst trade of all time I'd have to say. Poor Wolves.

[picnroll]

Kncks have no picks left after the Curry trade. Stern would love KG in NY

[Pistons < Spurs]

Wow.

[milkyway21]

I would love KG playing with the Knicks. It's about time for KG to move on. Leave Minny.

Torture the East.

[Solid D]

"Can't find my checkbook. Hope you don't mind I pay you in change."

http://us.movies1.yimg.com/movies.yahoo.com/images/hv/photo/movie_pix/fox_searchlight/napoleon_dynamite/jon_heder/jon_heder.jpg

[ShoogarBear]

Man, this trade would be a reason to bring this out again:

http://www.humorweb.no/bilder/kermit_spank_bunny.gif

[E20]

Frye's number seem good for a 2nd year player, but I don't know what Mchale would see in him in that would = a KG type player. Anfernee Hardaway is getting new injuries everyday, so he doesn't really count. Anybody have contract figures?

[exstatic]

Curry
KG
Marbury
Francis

Would be interesting.

If they get KG, they're not getting Francis. Penny is the contract ballast in both prospective trades....

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If they get KG, they're not getting Francis. Penny is the contract ballast in both prospective trades....

From the article

This deal delayed last week's Knicks discussions with the Magic regarding Steve Francis and it is why it will be Jamal Crawford and Maurice Taylor going to Orlando for their first time, instead of Hardaway’s second. That deal is all but complete, but Orlando is waiting to see if Denver returns to the table before the deadline.

[milkyway21]

so KG and Marbury playing together again, right?

[ducks]

wolves need to rebuild
and the sixers need to trade ai and get something for him
wolves have no chance at winning a title without a blockbuster trade
wolves said they were one piece away from winning it all
and they do this trade?
they must not believe that

kg is useless late in games he is mr not clutch

[MisterWhodat]

Everyone keeps saying the Wolves should do it out of respect, but they have to get something out of it!

[Leetonidas]

I think Minnesota would get some picks. They need to start rebuilding in Minny.

[milkyway21]

I think Minnesota would get some picks. They need to start rebuilding in Minny.i suggest tanking it this yr than get the 1st pick/1st round in the next draft? :lol

[ChumpDumper]

Wolves should try to get rid of Jaric at the same time if they are going to keep Casey. As it is they won't get quite enough cap room trading only KG to make it worthwhile.

[SequSpur]

dude, the twolves aren't going to trade KG....

That would be fuckin stupid.

[Leetonidas]

i suggest tanking it this yr than get the 1st pick/1st round in the next draft? :lol

That would be a good idea! :spin

I would love to see wolves009's reaction to that one.

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Maybe Wolves are trying to get set up for a shot at Greg Oden.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=2754~302~261&teams=16~16~18

Trade Machine says it's a go.

[ShoogarBear]

Larry Brown's head would explode, I think.

[Pistons < Spurs]

If New York pulls off both of these trades, their lineup could look like this:


1-Francis >>> N Robinson
2-Marbury >>> Q Richardson >>> Qyntel Woods
3-J Rose >>> D Lee >>> T Ariza
4-Garnett >>> D Lee >>> J Butler
5-Curry >>> James >>> J Butler

That starting 5 could pretty damn good........if there wasn't so many issues/ego's...especailly w/ Starbury and Francis. And How would LB coach all of these characters?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

If New York pulls off both of these trades, their lineup could look like this:


1-Francis >>> N Robinson
2-Marbury >>> Q Richardson >>> Qyntel Woods
3-J Rose >>> D Lee >>> T Ariza
4-Garnett >>> D Lee >>> J Butler
5-Curry >>> James >>> J Butler

That starting 5 could pretty damn good........if there wasn't so many issues/ego's...especailly w/ Starbury and Francis. And How would LB coach all of these characters?

Can't do it. Penny's the bait for the Knicks.

[Dunc]

Rare priviledge to see an NBA team get raped.

[milkyway21]

That would be a good idea! :spin

I would love to see wolves009's reaction to that one.he'll love it :D

i think he won't mind changing his loggin name to :knicks009 from wolves009.

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Can't do it. Penny's the bait for the Knicks.


Taylor + Crawford for Francis works.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=165~837~255&teams=19~19~18

[exstatic]

Taylor + Crawford for Francis works.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/traderesult?players=165~837~255&teams=19~19~18

Penny's contract is ending. Those other shitty ones aren't and no one wants to take on Zeke's mistakes.

[SequSpur]

Like the Wolves want to load up another Larry Brown team.

[ChumpDumper]

Penny's contract is ending. Those other shitty ones aren't and no one wants to take on Zeke's mistakes.I believe Crawford/Taylor was floated in Florida Today. Of course, they might deal with Denver, but that package might be more attractive than 3 more years of Franchise.

[SouthernFried]

Is Penny Hardaway still alive?

I remember him as being the next Jordan or Kobe...then, he just like...fell off the earth.

[Pistons < Spurs]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/39254/20060222/francis_trade_to_new_york_likely/

The current proposal, according to the person, would send guard Jamal Crawford, forward Maurice Taylor and possibly the swingman Trevor Ariza to Orlando. The Knicks would obtain Francis and forward Pat Garrity.

Penny Hardaway's expiring contract, which the Knicks have sought to use in a number of potential deals, would not be included in the Francis trade.

[Dunc]

Actually, wasn't Kobe the next Penny? Penny was good in what, 94-95-96? And Kobe broke into the league in 97, right?

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

What's Minnesota trying to do? Top how bad they got raped for trying to give Joe Smith an under-the-table deal?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/39254/20060222/francis_trade_to_new_york_likely/

The current proposal, according to the person, would send guard Jamal Crawford, forward Maurice Taylor and possibly the swingman Trevor Ariza to Orlando. The Knicks would obtain Francis and forward Pat Garrity.

Penny Hardaway's expiring contract, which the Knicks have sought to use in a number of potential deals, would not be included in the Francis trade.

Holy God...the league IS biased towards the Knicks.

[SouthernFried]

Actually, wasn't Kobe the next Penny? Penny was good in what, 94-95-96? And Kobe broke into the league in 97, right?

Hey, I'm old. What happened a decade ago seems like yesterday. What happened yesterday...I don't remember at all ;)

[Despot]

This would be a first for Isiah. He would actually get the better of the deal, what are the odds that he'll screw it up?

[Peter]

Every season one-third of the NBA media coverage is about how the Knicks are going to land every star player under the sun for nothing. The other two-thirds are about what Kobe just said about Shaq and vice versa.

[polandprzem]

dude, the twolves aren't going to trade KG....

That would be fuckin stupid.

Yup - with KG they are the contenders

[Rynospursfan]

No way the TWolves trade KG for cap space, not going to happen.

[Peter]

No way the TWolves trade KG for cap space, not going to happen.


Perhaps not cap space, but fiscal sanity. He's at $18 mil per this season and that's going up by a couple of mil next season and the two after that. That's a rather large amount for one player, especially when that player isn't exactly a guarantee for making the postseason, as last season and this one attest.

[JamStone]

Kncks have no picks left after the Curry trade. Stern would love KG in NY


Knicks have two first round picks in this upcoming draft, San Antonio's (Nazr trade) and Denver's first round via Toronto (Antonio Davs / Jalen Rose trade). Isiah could use either or both in a trade. Neither is restricted from being dealt.

[Peter]

Knicks have two first round picks in this upcoming draft, San Antonio's (Nazr trade) and Denver's first round via Toronto (Antonio Davs / Jalen Rose trade). Isiah could use either or both in a trade. Neither is restricted from being dealt.


I will say that the Wolves deserve to lose picks if they give Garnett up for next to nothing.

[Despot]

Minnesota Home Attendance
Games 27
Total 432,104 Rank 20
Average 16,003 Rank 25
Percentage 86.7 Rank 20

KG isn't helping the organization as a ticket seller, and the franchise is not winning with him as their guy. At $18 Mil, it's not unthinkable that they would move him. I just wonder how much lower the attendance will go.

[ca®lo]

for once. isiah will make a good deal if ever that pushes thru./

[Despot]

Do picks have monetary value to balance out trades?

Example:
Player A $5 Mil -FOR- Player B $3.5 Mil + 1st Rd Pick $1 Mil?

[ChumpDumper]

Do picks have monetary value to balance out trades?

Example:
Player A $5 Mil -FOR- Player B $3.5 Mil + 1st Rd Pick $1 Mil?Nope.