Spurs and Sprewell??

[ploto]

...While the Spurs can only sign Thomas if the Bulls release him, there is one notable swingman still available on the free-agent market: Latrell Sprewell.

Popovich had a good relationship with Sprewell when both were in Golden State. When the Spurs discussed trying to trade for Sprewell three summers ago, assistant coach P.J. Carlesimo said he would have no problem reuniting with the player who choked him.

"He's a fantastic competitor," Popovich said. "We've talked about him, and he's somebody I've thought about for a long time. But at this point we're not sure if taking on another person even makes sense or if he'd even be willing to do something like that."

Horry out: One reason the Spurs might try to add another player is their concern over Robert Horry's health.

Horry's hip was bothering him after Tuesday morning's shootaround, scrapping Popovich's plan to play him against Seattle.

The Spurs think Horry's hip injury is related to the lower abdominal strain that has limited him to four games since Jan. 16.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/sports/basketball/nba/spurs/stories/MYSA022206.8C.BKNspurs.notebook.12d9861e.html

[SenorSpur]

Adding Spree would create a logjam at the swing spot, with Barry, Finley and Gino.

[PM5K]

Spree can play forward..

[T-Pain]

i forgot all about sprewell. i think he could be a great contributor, but im afraid he'll cause some problems.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Screw Spree, didn't he screw over PJ in Minnesota?

[Despot]

He had said that if he can not find a team willing to pay him what he wanted, he would think about signing with a contender for the vet min later in the season.

[Despot]

Screw Spree, didn't he screw over PJ in Minnesota?

They kissed and made up.

[milkyway21]

He had said that if he can not find a team willing to pay him what he wanted, he would think about signing with a contender for the vet min later in the season.then, let's not add another player before trading deadline. If Horry's abdominal strain and hip's not better at the start of the playoffs, sign Spree for a 10-day contract, then if he shows some positive help for the team extend for another 10-days. Just like Big Dogg.

or is this a bad idea? :rolleyes

[SenorSpur]

Screw Spree, didn't he screw over PJ in Minnesota?

Yes he did. Let him try and feed his family by other means.

[ChumpDumper]

Spree wouldn't roll out of bed for a 10-day.

[Despot]

then, let's not add another player before trading deadline. If Horry's abdominal strain and hip's not better at the start of the playoffs, sign Spree for a 10-day contract, then if he shows some positive help for the team extend for another 10-days. Just like Big Dogg.

or is this a bad idea? :rolleyes

I really can't see spree signing a 10 day contract, that would be beneath him.
I'm sure a few teams would offer him the vet min. anyway, not sure if the contenders would though. I'm not saying I want him, but if we do sign someone else, Thomas and Spree are not bad choices.

The attractive thing about Spree, is that he would give us someone with an edge, something I think we need.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

I really can't see spree signing a 10 day contract, that would be beneath him.
I'm sure a few teams would offer him the vet min. anyway, not sure if the contenders would though. I'm not saying I want him, but if we do sign someone else, Thomas and Spree are not bad choices.

The attractive thing about Spree, is that he would give us someone with an edge, something I think we need.


By edge, I think you mean Idiot

[mikejones99]

Detroit or Dallas should sign him, they need bench help.

[T-Pain]

i completley forgot about spree. i wonder what hes doing right now

[KEDA]

BTW it was in Golden State where Spree CHOKED P J.

absolutley not!

NO WAY!!!

I would be areiously pissed if Spree came here, he is a piece of shit that ruined the locker room of Minnesota, and I dont want that here, 10 day contract or not.

[smeagol]

3 . . . 2 . . .1 seconds to sequ´s "Lets get Spree, he is a stud!"

[ducks]

spree>>>>>>>>>>>>>barry

[ObiwanGinobili]

Spree wouldn't roll out of bed for a 10-day.

Mr. Unemployed can kiss my ass.

[Manu'sMagicalLeftHand]

Is Spree even trainning? How is his physical condition?

[Joepa]

I don't think Spree is a bad guy. Sure, he has a big mouth, overvalues his skills, and choked a coach once. But, he's regarded as an otherwise good teammate who plays hard and contributes.

He was pretty dern good on those TWolves teams.

[alamo50]

:rolleyes

[WalterBenitez]

How much could SPurs offer him, you know ... he have a family

[Sportman]

I think he could create troubles inside this team. All people know about his bad behavior and that´s something for any team if they want to get a championship. Besides spurs in that position has a lot of players, barry, manu, finley. I think spurs doesnt need another players.

[Peter]

Considering that the Spurs are carrying only 4 swings, adding Spree wouldn't be a bad idea. I'd prefer Thomas, but Spurs fans need to get off their high horse, for lack of a better term.

Spree and Pop have a mutual admiration society that goes back to Spree's rookie year. Pop's tried to get him in a Spurs uniform for damn near a decade now. Spree's not going to ruin team chemistry, much like adding Glenn Robinson and Nick Van Exel did not.

If Spree's down with taking the vet min and sporadic minutes for the rest of the season, welcome.

[MoSpur]

I really don't know how I would feel if Spree came to town. It doesn't matter though. The Spurs front office are going to do what they feel will benefit the team. If adding Spree benefits the team, I am all for it. I think we have plenty of bigs that do a good job. I don't think Tim Thomas would do too much for our team. I honestly think that Spree would help now that I think about it.

[pache100]

We don't need that kind of trouble...Sprewell is just another

http://i1.tinypic.com/oa81ur.gif

[Joepa]

I don't know how we would afford Tim Thomas. He's got a 13m+ contract, if I recall correctly.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Mr. Unemployed can kiss my ass.

I think he'd have to take a number, judging from the pic :lol

It couldn't hurt the Spurs to pick up someone capable of playing some minutes at the 3.

[Peter]

I don't know how we would afford Tim Thomas. He's got a 13m+ contract, if I recall correctly.


If he's waived, his price becomes much less.

[nkdlunch]

fuck him. there is a reason why he's still jobless

[Peter]

There was a reason why Glenn Robinson was out of a job too.

[midgetonadonkey]

Fuck Spree and bring back Big Dog.

[ObiwanGinobili]

I think he'd have to take a number, judging from the pic :lol

It couldn't hurt the Spurs to pick up someone capable of playing some minutes at the 3.

what ever + he may give us on court would be cancelled out an run over by the - he would give us in the lockeroom (re: morale, attitude, etc etc)

he's far from DRobesque> I'm not expecting every Spur to be exactly like DRob.. but at least our current players are within sight of those standards. Sprechokewell would need 5 days and a map.

[Peter]

what ever + he may give us on court would be cancelled out an run over by the - he would give us in the lockeroom (re: morale, attitude, etc etc)

How do you know? Glenn Robinson was supposedly a malcontent. Ditto for Van Exel. PS...DRob was down with Spree coming to SA back in the day after he massaged PJ's neck.




he's far from DRobesque> I'm not expecting every Spur to be exactly like DRob.. but at least our current players are within sight of those standards. Sprechokewell would need 5 days and a map.

NVE is a choir boy?

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

BTW it was in Golden State where Spree CHOKED P J.

Supposedly, Spree talked negatively to Garnett about PJ, and thats one of the reasons PJ wasn't hired in Minnesota.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

what ever + he may give us on court would be cancelled out an run over by the - he would give us in the lockeroom (re: morale, attitude, etc etc)

he's far from DRobesque> I'm not expecting every Spur to be exactly like DRob.. but at least our current players are within sight of those standards. Sprechokewell would need 5 days and a map

Everyone said the same things about:

Stephen Jackson
Glenn Robinson
Nick Van Exel

Two got rings and the third's working on it :/

[Peter]

I'm also not that clear on why Spurs fans continue to hold every player to the DRob standard. DRob was pals with Rocket Rod during and after his stint in SA, for example. It's also not like any of the Spurs' big 3 have a squeaky clean personal life, if you want to hold them to that standard. All 3 have had live in girlfriends, for example.

[nkdlunch]

There was a reason why Glenn Robinson was out of a job too.

bigdogg was a bench warmer. Why the hell would we get Spree for this kind of job when we could get a guy who would be actually useful.

we would just be giving him a free championship ring w/front row seats to the finals. fuck that he don't deserve that

[Peter]

bigdogg was a bench warmer. Why the hell would we get Spree for this kind of job when we could get a guy who would be actually useful.

If Thomas isn't available, what's left?




we would just be giving him a free championship ring w/front row seats to the finals. fuck that he don't deserve that

Glenn Robinson was worthwhile in SA. He certainly came in handy in the Denver series as well as Game 1 of the Finals last postseason.

[nkdlunch]

if by worthwile you mean a body w/6 fouls to give yes he was. there are many players that could do that job. we don't necesarily need sprewell for that. fuck him.

[pache100]

It's also not like any of the Spurs' big 3 have a squeaky clean personal life, if you want to hold them to that standard. All 3 have had live in girlfriends, for example.

LIVE IN GIRLFRIENDS?????? How does that make you a bad person or a troublemaker?

YIKES! We all in trouble!

[Joepa]

That's why it's hard to compare to DRob because he was the ultimate definition of squeaky clean.

[Streakyshooter08]

Sorry if it has already been asked but when is the deadline teams can sign players for the playoffs? Thanks...

[Peter]

LIVE IN GIRLFRIENDS?????? How does that make you a bad person or a troublemaker?

YIKES! We all in trouble!


Well, that's the point. If we want to start expecting every Spur to be a saint then plenty have fallen short. Maybe we should get rid of them.

[Peter]

Sorry if it has already been asked but when is the deadline teams can sign players for the playoffs? Thanks...


March 1st, I believe.

[Peter]

That's why it's hard to compare to DRob because he was the ultimate definition of squeaky clean.

Well, then perhaps Spurs fans should stop expecting every player to meet that.

[Peter]

if by worthwile you mean a body w/6 fouls to give yes he was. there are many players that could do that job. we don't necesarily need sprewell for that. fuck him.


He brought more than 6 fouls in those games, as well as provided scoring in some late regular season games.

You never know when injuries might hit in the postseason. I'd rather that Pop had a Spree on his bench than an empty seat.

[Streakyshooter08]

March 1st, I believe.

Thanks!

[pache100]

Well, that's the point. If we want to start expecting every Spur to be a saint then plenty have fallen short. Maybe we should get rid of them.

You're way off base. Living with your girlfriend is a far cry from trying to kill your coach by choking him.

LIVE IN GIRLFREINDS?

[cheguevara]

It's also not like any of the Spurs' big 3 have a squeaky clean personal life, if you want to hold them to that standard. All 3 have had live in girlfriends, for example.

:lmao :lmao what are you, 95 years old or something?

[pache100]

:lmao :lmao what are you, 95 years old or something?

Exactly!

:blah :lol :drunk

[rayray2k8]

I think we have plenty of swing men to go around.. so i say no to spree..

[ObiwanGinobili]

I'm also not that clear on why Spurs fans continue to hold every player to the DRob standard. DRob was pals with Rocket Rod during and after his stint in SA, for example. It's also not like any of the Spurs' big 3 have a squeaky clean personal life, if you want to hold them to that standard. All 3 have had live in girlfriends, for example.


ok.
now your jumping of fthe deepend.
a live in girlfriend is nothing comapred to choking your coach.. not once but 2 times within 30 minutes... and punching him.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Stephen Jackson
Glenn Robinson
Nick Van Exel

These guys reps are nothing compared to Ron Artest.
even added together.

I firmly believe that Ron's bad mojo is enough to smother all the good mojo we have going on. ie; Rodman

Where as our good mojo more than compensated & infact converted the 3 bad mojo's mentioned.

[Despot]

These guys reps are nothing compared to Ron Artest.
even added together.

I firmly believe that Ron's bad mojo is enough to smother all the good mojo we have going on. ie; Rodman

Where as our good mojo more than compensated & infact converted the 3 bad mojo's mentioned.

Wow, it took 3 pages for someone to mention Artest. Did you mean to mention him??

[ObiwanGinobili]

Wow, it took 3 pages for someone to mention Artest. Did you mean to mention him??

LOL!
I meant to say Spreewell & Artest but I'm thinking faster then I'm typing and I'm also nursing the baby at the same time.....

so things get muddled. :lol

[Despot]

LOL!
I meant to say Spreewell & Artest but I'm thinking faster then I'm typing and I'm also nursing the baby at the same time.....

so things get muddled. :lol


:drool

[Despot]

:drool at the thought of getting Sprewell and Artest, not the nursing thing. :oops

Just had a flash of what having them would have been like. For some reason alot of people think Spre has no talent left.

[KEDA]

Im sorry, I just cant see Spree in the silver and black.

I was all for Big Dog, and was a huge Sjax fan when he was here, but Spree is a piece of trash compared to those two.

I would be seriously unhappy if we signed Latrene to a contract, even a contract like Big Dog had.

[texasqb2]

I love how everyone is saying NOT to sign Spree to the VET MIN b/c he would cause problems. Hell anyone with Spree's resume, you'd be stupid not to offer the vet min to. What do we have to lose? If he complains or causes trouble, put him on IR or tell him to go home. I can't believe some of you are not all over signing Spree or Thomas. Get some basketball sense.

[MoSpur]

I love how everyone is saying NOT to sign Spree to the VET MIN b/c he would cause problems. Hell anyone with Spree's resume, you'd be stupid not to offer the vet min to. What do we have to lose? If he complains or causes trouble, put him on IR or tell him to go home. I can't believe some of you are not all over signing Spree or Thomas. Get some basketball sense.

My thoughts exactly. Its not like the Spurs are going to offer him a multi-year deal. If (key word) the Spurs sign him, it will be for the remainder of the year. Thats it.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

I love how everyone is saying NOT to sign Spree to the VET MIN b/c he would cause problems. Hell anyone with Spree's resume, you'd be stupid not to offer the vet min to. What do we have to lose? If he complains or causes trouble, put him on IR or tell him to go home. I can't believe some of you are not all over signing Spree or Thomas. Get some basketball sense.

Are you the GM for the Portland Trailblazers with all that basketball sense?

[ChumpDumper]

Spree wouldn't be a problem. He loves Pop and knows what to expect from him.

Howevah.

He's completely superfluous at this point. Had we not gotten Finley we might have picked him up long ago, but not now.

[Mixability]

All 3 have had live in girlfriends, for example.

:lmao

OH NO, NOT LIVE IN GIRLFRIENDS!!!!!

:pctoss

:lol

[texasqb2]

Are you the GM for the Portland Trailblazers with all that basketball sense?

well explain to me how signing Spree to the vet min is bad.

[Rescueone]

I love how everyone is saying NOT to sign Spree to the VET MIN b/c he would cause problems. Hell anyone with Spree's resume, you'd be stupid not to offer the vet min to. What do we have to lose? If he complains or causes trouble, put him on IR or tell him to go home. I can't believe some of you are not all over signing Spree or Thomas. Get some basketball sense.

Exactly my thought!! Would everyone want him to go to...let's say Dallas and do some damage to the Spurs in the second round? Just by getting him off the market helps the Spurs people! Wise Up! Besides, Barry isn't actually having a good year. He has done about the same as Spree this year for the Spurs (not a damn thing)! Manu is still hurting, Horry isn't playing and Finley and Nick aren't living up to their potential. It's a no-brainer to me! If Spree comes in and contributes right away, everyone will forget his past. If he comes in and acts up, he goes on IR. It makes perfect sense to me!
The Spurs bench could use a shot in the arm. Not scoring for 10-15 mins is getting old, and so is going 2 for 17. Spree can light it up! Just what the Spurs are missing off the bench. Get it done!

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

well explain to me how signing Spree to the vet min is bad.

Spurs need a Long 3, not another 2 guard. Plus I'm sure that if he'd sign for the Vet min, he'd already be on a roster, this guy cares more about $$ than winning a championship.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Exactly my thought!! Would everyone want him to go to...let's say Dallas and do some damage to the Spurs in the second round? Just by getting him off the market helps the Spurs people! Wise Up! Besides, Barry isn't actually having a good year. He has done about the same as Spree this year for the Spurs (not a damn thing)! Manu is still hurting, Horry isn't playing and Finley and Nick aren't living up to their potential. It's a no-brainer to me! If Spree comes in and contributes right away, everyone will forget his past. If he comes in and acts up, he goes on IR. It makes perfect sense to me!
The Spurs bench could use a shot in the arm. Not scoring for 10-15 mins is getting old, and so is going 2 for 17. Spree can light it up! Just what the Spurs are missing off the bench. Get it done!

I would love for him to go to Dallas, let him be their problem and not ours.

[cheguevara]

Spurs need a Long 3, not another 2 guard. Plus I'm sure that if he'd sign for the Vet min, he'd already be on a roster, this guy cares more about $$ than winning a championship.

bingo. Horry is hurt, we need a body in case he can play limited minutes. I'm not even sure we even gonna use Finley in the playoffs, so Spree is out of the question. Plus if we were to get a championship, I don't wanna see Spree get one he is a materialistic piece of shit.

[pache100]

well explain to me how signing Spree to the vet min is bad.

Let's see...how to simplify this...ok, here goes....

WE-----DON'T-----NEED-----HIM!

We don't need his drama. We don't need his violence. We don't need his disruption. We don't need his diahrea mouth. We surely don't need his hungry family. And, most of all, we don't even need his rusty skills right now. Sprewell has not played at all this year. He would not be worth the investment of money or time the Spurs would have to put into him, even if I thought he would not upset the chemistry of this team to the point of distraction.

WE-----DON'T-----NEED-----HIM!

In a perfect world in a perfect situation, maybe...but poor old Spre is not perfect by a long shot. It's not worth the risk to me.


I would love for him to go to Dallas, let him be their problem and not ours.

:tu

Let Avery find somebody to cornrow his hair.

[Joepa]

Surprised Isaiah hasn't signed this guy to a max contract.

[Dunc]

No way in hell will the Spurs sign him. Neither will the Pistons. The Mavs might. Wouldn't hurt to be 11-deep, right?

[cheguevara]

We should take DRob out of retirement just for the playoffs.

[boutons_]

Spree is finished. The Spree now is not the Spree of the 90s. He would add nothing to the Spurs or anybody else.

[MoSpur]

Let's see...how to simplify this...ok, here goes....

WE-----DON'T-----NEED-----HIM!

We don't need his drama. We don't need his violence. We don't need his disruption. We don't need his diahrea mouth. We surely don't need his hungry family. And, most of all, we don't even need his rusty skills right now. Sprewell has not played at all this year. He would not be worth the investment of money or time the Spurs would have to put into him, even if I thought he would not upset the chemistry of this team to the point of distraction.

WE-----DON'T-----NEED-----HIM!

In a perfect world in a perfect situation, maybe...but poor old Spre is not perfect by a long shot. It's not worth the risk to me.



:tu

Let Avery find somebody to cornrow his hair.

Calm down. How is signing Spree for the rest of the season a risk? If he acts up you sit him. He if plays really good...well...good. Don't make it complicated. The Spurs front office is smart and won't sign him if they felt he would hurt the team.

[pache100]

Calm down. How is signing Spree for the rest of the season a risk? If he acts up you sit him. He if plays really good...well...good. Don't make it complicated. The Spurs front office is smart and won't sign him if they felt he would hurt the team.

I wasn't talking to you and I don't need to calm down. I was answering a direct question and I made my point. I don't have anything else to say about it, I gave my reasons. We disagree. Let it go.

[Peter]

If Spurs fans think living in sin isn't a big deal, their hypocrisy is even moreso. Think DRob's down with that?

It never fails, Spurs fans freak out about a player because he has a less than sterling rep, yet after he becomes a Spur then he's as pure as the driven snow.

[Peter]

ok.
now your jumping of fthe deepend.
a live in girlfriend is nothing comapred to choking your coach.. not once but 2 times within 30 minutes... and punching him.


Pop's cool with it. I guess he's lacking class too, eh?

[Rescueone]

I would love for him to go to Dallas, let him be their problem and not ours.

No, he would be the Spurs problem one way or the other! He would light it up against our second team if he were to go to Dallas! Don't you get it? You want to lose to Dallas in the second round?

[cheguevara]

Sprewel would be useful for only 1 thing. hooking up our boys's rides :rolleyes
http://www.arluckpromotions.com/images/sprewell.312.jpg

[cheguevara]

Pop's cool with it. I guess he's lacking class too, eh?

maybe Pop needs a good deal on rims

[MoSpur]

I wasn't talking to you and I don't need to calm down. I was answering a direct question and I made my point. I don't have anything else to say about it, I gave my reasons. We disagree. Let it go.

I think you are talking to me when you post here because I can read it. Anyway, you're right we disagree and no big deal.

[ObiwanGinobili]

Really.
quote where Pop said :"I'm cool with Spree choking PJ. It's all good". link please.
Pop may be a spree fan, and he may be friendly with him. But I doubt he approved of that particular incident. You can disagree with a friends behavior. It's possible.

[pache100]

If Spurs fans think living in sin isn't a big deal, their hypocrisy is even moreso. Think DRob's down with that?

Yeah, I think he is. I have never heard him judge anyone for their living situation. I think he pretty much leaves the judging of morals stuff up to God. True Christians do.


It never fails, Spurs fans freak out about a player because he has a less than sterling rep, yet after he becomes a Spur then he's as pure as the driven snow.

Not liking someone because they think they've watched them for years and think are trouble (or for any other reason) is far from "freaking out because he has a less than sterling reputation". As for thinking any of the Spurs are "pure as the driven snow"...I have never heard anyone here say that. Link?

[Vashner]

I don't think it will happen. We don't need him.

[Peter]

Really.
quote where Pop said :"I'm cool with Spree choking PJ. It's all good". link please.
Pop may be a spree fan, and he may be friendly with him. But I doubt he approved of that particular incident. You can disagree with a friends behavior. It's possible.


Pop tried to get him at least 3 times after that incident. Apparently he's not too worked up about it.

[Peter]

Not liking someone because they think they've watched them for years and think are trouble (or for any other reason) is far from "freaking out because he has a less than sterling reputation". As for thinking any of the Spurs are "pure as the driven snow"...I have never heard anyone here say that. Link?

Yeah, your post.

[Rescueone]

Who's on the market as a long three can we get? Wasn't Evans on our summer league team?

[pache100]

Yeah, your post.

Which one specifically? I have NEVER said nor insinuated any Spur was "pure as the driven snow".

(for the record, your remark didn't make sense anyway)

[cheguevara]

Which one specifically? I have NEVER said nor insinuated any Spur was "pure as the driven snow".

that's typical Peter response, translation is: I'm hallucinating again

[ObiwanGinobili]

"apparently".

so if your intrested in signing a player then you are automatically A++ 100% in agreement with all of thier past actions??

I know Pop has wanted Spree. That does not infer that he is "cool with" Spree choking PJ. I think the only person who thought that was a good idea was Spree.
Pop has just let it go. As has PJ.

[pache100]

that's typical Peter response, translation is: I'm hallucinating again

I want to know what he's talking about. I have never said that, never read that. If he says I have, he's lying.

[Peter]

"apparently".

so if your intrested in siginging a favor then you are automatically A++ 100% in agreement with all of thier past actions??

I know Pop has wanted Spree. That does not infer that he is "cool with" Spree choking PJ. I think the only person who thought that was a good idea was Spree.
Pop has just let it go. As has PJ.


Wha? I just said that it's not an item that apparently did not lead Pop to not want to bring him in. Fairly clear, I thought.

[ObiwanGinobili]

I want to know what he's talking about. I have never said that, never read that. If he says I have, he's lying.


I'm starting to think he extrapolates what he thinks you mean from what you actually post to better fit how he would like to respond.

[Peter]

that's typical Peter response, translation is: I'm hallucinating again


As opposed to your typical non-response and hanging on my nuts at every turn.

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

No, he would be the Spurs problem one way or the other! He would light it up against our second team if he were to go to Dallas! Don't you get it? You want to lose to Dallas in the second round?

If Latrell Spreewell is the guy who beats you, I have a feeling you weren't meant to win a championship anyways

[ObiwanGinobili]

Wha? I just said that it's not an item that apparently did not lead Pop to not want to bring him in. Fairly clear, I thought.

you said Pop was cool with it. And then insinuated thaqt I thought that made him low class.
Even tho class had never been mentioned in this discussion earlier or since.

[Peter]

I'm starting to think he extrapolates what he thinks you mean from what you actually post to better fit how he would like to respond.


You and your cohorts have claimed that because of Spree's "baggage" the Spurs shouldn't bring him in.

[ObiwanGinobili]

If Latrell Spreewell is the guy who beats you, I have a feeling you weren't meant to win a championship anyways


:lmao
quote worthy. :fro

[pache100]

I'm starting to think he extrapolates what he thinks you mean from what you actually post to better fit how he would like to respond.

I think you just hit the nail on the head.

Note to self: Update "Ignore" list.

[ObiwanGinobili]

You and your cohorts have claimed that because of Spree's "baggage" the Spurs shouldn't bring him in.

yes.
I am not Pop.
<------------------- see? no pock marks.

[Peter]

you said Pop was cool with it. And then insinuated thaqt I thought that made him low class.
Even tho class had never been mentioned in this discussion earlier or since.


Again, apparently Pop doesn't have a problem with what he did in the past.

[ObiwanGinobili]

And Pop is not every player on our team.

[Peter]

yes.
I am not Pop.
<------------------- see? no pock marks.


Right. Who's the head coach?

[pache100]

If Latrell Spreewell is the guy who beats you, I have a feeling you weren't meant to win a championship anyways


http://i1.tinypic.com/oaros0.gif

[Peter]

And Pop is not every player on our team.


Right. He just happens to coach them, have a significant say in who he coaches and he used to be GM.

[Peter]

I think you just hit the nail on the head.

Note to self: Update "Ignore" list.


When you can't respond...

[cheguevara]

Right. Who's the head coach?

who's the head case? (spree)

[Peter]

who's the head case? (spree)


Pop doesn't seem to think that's so.

[pache100]

When you can't respond...

I DID respond. You are the one who cannot give me a link to your quote of what I did not say.


Pop doesn't seem to think that's so.

Ay-yi-yi...it's a freakin' broken record.

And, now...I'm going to the control panel.

[cheguevara]

of course pop is not gonna admit that on national media!! duh get real

[Bruno]

I don't want Spree.
I rather have Beno or Barry at the end of the bench than Spree.

[Peter]

I DID respond. You are the one who cannot give me a link to your quote of what I did not say.

And, now...I'm going to the control panel.


Adios, baby.

[Peter]

of course pop is not gonna admit that on national media!! duh get real

Pop's tried to trade for him.

[cheguevara]

Pop's tried to trade for him.

well sorry to disapoint u but Spree won't be in a Spur uniform now or ever.

[Peter]

well sorry to disapoint u but Spree won't be in a Spur uniform now or ever.

Now he doesn't even have to trade for him.

[Rescueone]

If Latrell Spreewell is the guy who beats you, I have a feeling you weren't meant to win a championship anyways

Let's just hope those words don't come back to bite the Spurs in the Ass in the second round! Spree is a true scorer! Even if he hasn't played this year, he's well rested and waiting for a team to call. He'll light it up once he gets on the floor! It's not like Barry has done anything. Barry can't play D, and he can't score, and makes millions to sit his ass on the bench. He should give back his salary for doing nothing all year! He has robbed the team!

[cheguevara]

Spree is a true scorer! Even if he hasn't played this year, he's well rested and waiting for a team to call. He'll light it up once he gets on the floor!

:lmao :lmao good stuff

[Rescueone]

:lmao :lmao good stuff

Do you know BBall?

[cheguevara]

no, but I know comedy and your stuff is great :lol

[Rescueone]

no, but I know comedy and your stuff is great :lol
Then you're in the wrong forum and you can't comment on something you don't know shit about!

[Kori Ellis]

Pop has tried to get Spree every time that he's been available over the years. He'll likely continue to do so. If they can't land Tim Thomas, I can imagine Spree here for the minimum (if he'll take it).

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Let's just hope those words don't come back to bite the Spurs in the Ass in the second round! Spree is a true scorer! Even if he hasn't played this year, he's well rested and waiting for a team to call. He'll light it up once he gets on the floor! It's not like Barry has done anything. Barry can't play D, and he can't score, and makes millions to sit his ass on the bench. He should give back his salary for doing nothing all year! He has robbed the team!


And this season he's still done a whole lot more than Spree. Kinda makes you go hmmmmmm??

[cheguevara]

Then you're in the wrong forum and you can't comment on something you don't know shit about!

u either. go do stand up or someshit

[Rescueone]

And this season he's still done a whole lot more than Spree. Kinda makes you go hmmmmmm??

No the Spurs should go hmmmmmmmmm

[Rescueone]

u either. go do stand up or someshit
O.K. I will give it a try.....in the mean time tune into the Ticket 760 A.M. Pop is coming on to talk about this topic in a few minutes. I guess we'll see who knows what in a matter of minutes

[Peter]

While we're on the subject of current Spurs as fine upstanding citizens...


The league on Wednesday slapped Nick Van Exel with a seven-game suspension and an NBA-record $25,000 fine for the incident during the Nuggets' 98-91 victory Tuesday. Van Exel shoved referee Ron Garretson onto the scorer's table following Van Exel's second technical foul. The ejection carries an additional, automatic fine of $1,000. Van Exel was arguing a call with Garretson during a timeout and received a technical foul with 3:23 left in the game. Van Exel argued briefly near the scorer's table and was slapped with a second technical, calling for an automatic ejection. Van Exel began to walk away from Garretson, but then suddenly turned back and pushed the referee onto the scorer's table. Johnson stepped between the two and held Garretson while Van Exel was restrained by a team official.


source (http://www.cracksmoker.com/NBA/NBA%20Van%20ExelN.htm)



Firstar Bank has sued Denver Nuggets guard Nick Van Exel, saying he fraudulently claimed he couldn't afford to pay his $19,000 credit-card balance.

The former University of Cincinnati standout, who signed a $50 million contract with the Nuggets last year, refused to comment. He referred questions to his lawyer, Scott Boatman, who said Friday that the issue is “largely a misunderstanding.”

“We are close to working this out and I anticipate it being done by next week,” Mr. Boatman said.

The suit, filed Friday in Hamilton County Common Pleas Court, alleges that a representative claimed Mr. Van Exel “lacked the financial ability to make full payment” on the $19,000 balance on his platinum Visa card.

A Firstar employee, unaware that Mr. Van Exel was a professional athlete, accepted a $12,000 check in settlement of the account.

The check was received Aug. 23, 20 days after Mr. Van Exel signed his Nuggets contract guaranteeing $50.5 million over five years.

The bank contends Mr. Van Exel's representative was obliged to inform it of Mr. Van Exel's position.

However, Mr. Boatman said that at the time of the settlement, Mr. Van Exel was still unsigned and had no way of knowing he would sign with any professional basketball team.


source (http://www.enquirer.com/editions/2000/03/04/loc_firstar_bank_takes.html)



Three other former Bearcats - Nick Van Exel, Damon Flint and Ruben Patterson - have also been accused of violence. Flint's case was dismissed, Patterson was not indicted by a grand jury, and Van Exel never faced charges, but his ex-girlfriend told Sports Illustrated that he grabbed her by the throat and threw her down when he was at Trinity Valley (Texas) Community College.

source (http://www.cincypost.com/sports/1998/viol082598.html)

[nkdlunch]

NVE didn't try to choke his coach during practice + doesnt have the stupidest quote in NBA history "feed my children..."

NVE > Spree

[MoSpur]

So is spree coming? When Pop jokes like the way he is now, it makes you think. That's the way he was when NVE came.

[Peter]

NVE didn't try to choke his coach during practice + doesnt have the stupidest quote in NBA history "feed my children..."

NVE > Spree


Right. He just body checked a ref into the scorer's table and tried to choke an ex gf. Then, of course, there's Cancun...

[Rescueone]

So is spree coming? When Pop jokes like the way he is now, it makes you think. That's the way he was when NVE came.
I know, I bet he's on his way for his physical by now!

[MoSpur]

I know, I bet he's on his way for his physical by now!

I doubt it, but it sounds fishy.

[timvp]

Most people who have followed the Spurs since before they were champions knows that Sprewell will one day be a Spur. It's just a matter of when. Spree is Pop's favorite player of all-time, so don't be stunned when the Spurs bring him in.

Would I sign Spree now? Of course.

Neither Finley nor Barry are exactly tearing it up. Giving them some competition can't hurt. Sprewell is a guy who will go out and play his hardest and isn't afraid to mix it up. You can't say that about Finley or Barry.

Spree :tu

Thomas :tu

The Spurs have been searching for The Long Three. Thomas is a picture perfect TLT.

:smokin

[Budkin]

The way Pop was talking it sounds like Spree is coming.

[Peter]

I like Thomas more at this point because the Spurs could use some size at the 3. Plus, he has good range on his shot, is athletic, is a good slasher and he's just now turning 29.

That being said, Spree wouldn't be a bad fit. The Spurs have a spot open in their roster for a 5th swing. Pop finally gets his man.

[BigVee]

The more bodies to throw at Dirk and Howard, contest the McDeyss jumper, chase Rip around a screen, guard Billups in crunch time the better.

[Peter]

I know, I bet he's on his way for his physical by now!

If I had to guess, I'd say that Spree is on his way if the Spurs can't sign Thomas.

[Peter]

I'd also guess that Thomas goes to NJ. He can get more minutes there and Kidd would help make him look good enough to start scaring up some serious $ in the offseason. He's only 29. Now's not the time in his career to start playing for championships on small contracts.

[timvp]

Thomas would also be decent Horry insurance. If Horry isn't 100% in the playoffs, Thomas could fit a similar role in a pinch.

It's good to see that the Spurs realize they need another swingman. Although, they should have thought about this when they let Devin Brown walk. Right now they'd kill for a bench player who could hit shots and bring it defensively.

[Peter]

Well, I guess the braintrust read the forum and decided that retaining Brown was simply a luxury.

[ChumpDumper]

True. The only thing we have going for us is Newman and a better chance at a ring. TT would automatically get Wright's spot in the rotation and then some.

[texasqb2]

Thomas would also be decent Horry insurance. If Horry isn't 100% in the playoffs, Thomas could fit a similar role in a pinch.

It's good to see that the Spurs realize they need another swingman. Although, they should have thought about this when they let Devin Brown walk. Right now they'd kill for a bench player who could hit shots and bring it defensively.

Devin Brown blows, just ask the Jazz

[Peter]

What the Spurs would likely offer Thomas would be the MLE for two seasons after this one and a short term big payday after that. I don't see the Spurs going long term on a deal for a role playing swing. Maybe they would opt to guarantee more if they projected him as the eventual starter.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't think Thomas' production in NY merited an MLE deal. Remember there is a slight possibility of buying out Scola this summer too. I suppose it would depend on TT's performance.

[Peter]

Devin Brown blows, just ask the Jazz

He's produced for them this season when he's gotten the minutes.

[texasqb2]

What the Spurs would likely offer Thomas would be the MLE for two seasons after this one and a short term big payday after that. I don't see the Spurs going long term on a deal for a role playing swing. Maybe they would opt to guarantee more if they projected him as the eventual starter.

I don't imagine Thomas or Spree getting a contract lasting longer than the end of the season. If they produce, they will get more money elsewhere, and I don't think we can off the MLE til Finley's contract runs out or Oberto's or however we used it.

[texasqb2]

He's produced for them this season when he's gotten the minutes.

He's shooting under 30% from behind the arc, more TOs than assists, 7.7 a game and he's been starting (well 9 games).

[leemajors]

I don't imagine Thomas or Spree getting a contract lasting longer than the end of the season. If they produce, they will get more money elsewhere, and I don't think we can off the MLE til Finley's contract runs out or Oberto's or however we used it.

i think we split the MLE this year, but you would have to ask Chump to be positive.

[Peter]

I don't imagine Thomas or Spree getting a contract lasting longer than the end of the season. If they produce, they will get more money elsewhere, and I don't think we can off the MLE til Finley's contract runs out or Oberto's or however we used it.


Sure, the initial contract would only be for the remainder of this season.

The Spurs will have the MLE this coming offseason. Finley and Oberto's contracts run past this season. You don't lose the MLE if you used it last offseason. That's the LLE.

[Kori Ellis]

He's shooting under 30% from behind the arc, more TOs than assists, 7.7 a game and he's been starting.

He rarely starts. He's only started 9 games all season. He averages 7.7 ppg in 20 minutes.

[Peter]

He's shooting under 30% from behind the arc, more TOs than assists, 7.7 a game and he's been starting.


He just dropped 25 on the Lakers the game before last. He fit well in SA as the primary reserve swing. Damn well.

[ChumpDumper]

I think we're out of MLE this season - Finley and Oberto.

[texasqb2]

He's shooting under 30% from behind the arc, more TOs than assists, 7.7 a game and he's been starting (well 9 games).

Here's a quote from John Hollinger's column.

Meanwhile, Brown left as a free agent for Utah but forgot to take his game with him. The 6-foot-5 swingman is shooting a career-low 39.8 percent and has nearly doubled his turnovers from a year ago in similar minutes. It's been so bad that he was passed over for a start this week in favor of Milt Palacio.

[Peter]

I don't think Thomas' production in NY merited an MLE deal. Remember there is a slight possibility of buying out Scola this summer too. I suppose it would depend on TT's performance.


I don't know. It was pretty solid. Not star level but definitely not chopped liver. It doesn't seem like much of a stretch that a solid showing in the last couple of months of this season might tempt a GM to put some money into the 29 year old.

[ChumpDumper]

Looking at Devin's game log, he's been pretty sporatic no matter the minutes. He did fit in well here, but you don't give a guy $2.5 million for the express purpose of sitting on the IR for a season.

[Peter]

I think we're out of MLE this season - Finley and Oberto.


True. I was trying to comprehend the post above about having to wait until their contracts ended or some such. Thomas or Sprewell would get the prorated vet min in SA.

[Peter]

Looking at Devin's game log, he's been pretty sporatic no matter the minutes. He did fit in well here, but you don't give a guy $2.5 million for the express purpose of sitting on the IR for a season.


Well, compare how Brown performed when he was the backup swing versus what the Spurs have now.

[ChumpDumper]

I don't know. It was pretty solid. Not star level but definitely not chopped liver. It doesn't seem like much of a stretch that a solid showing in the last couple of months of this season might tempt a GM to put some money into the 29 year old.His production was on a definite skid. Again, I think the Spurs would give Tau another ring before calling TT's agent -- but as we both said it would depend on his performance.

[Peter]

I think Tau's a lost cause for now. That buyout has 2 more years on it, IIRC.

[ChumpDumper]

Well, compare how Brown performed when he was the backup swing versus what the Spurs have now.Well, show me any free agent who was signed for $2.5 million with the express purpose of riding the IR.

[ChumpDumper]

I think Tau's a lost cause for now. That buyout has 2 more years on it, IIRC.But the biggest reason Tau took such a hard line on Scola was that they had to qualify to stay in Euroleague based in part on their performance this season. That has been accomplished.

[Peter]

NJ does have the hometown thing going for it with Thomas too. Oh well, you never know. If Thomas fit in SA I don't think they balk at giving him a decent deal. Pop's wanted him before. He fits a need, etc.

[Peter]

But the biggest reason Tau took such a hard line on Scola was that they had to qualify for Euroleague again based in part on their performance this season. That has been accomplished.


And they still have a deal with a $13.5 mil NBA escape clause. No rush.

[ChumpDumper]

And they still have a deal with a $13.5 mil NBA escape clause. No rush.But if they can get something now as opposed to nothing later -- who knows?

[Peter]

Well, show me any free agent who was signed for $2.5 million with the express purpose of riding the IR.


They've paid guys more to go away.

[ChumpDumper]

They've paid guys more to go away.They were already under contract. If you can't think of a free agent signed for $2.5 million with the intent to ride the IR, just say so.

[Peter]

But if they can get something now as opposed to nothing later -- who knows?


The now is that they have Scola still on their team. I can't see them moving too far off that figure. So Scola would still have to get a hefty deal from the Spurs, especially when taxes are considered.

[ChumpDumper]

The now is that they have Scola still on their team. I said it was a slight possibility.And they'll get no compensation when he leaves.
So Scola would still have to get a hefty deal from the Spurs, especially when taxes are considered. But you were just talking about a full MLE deal for Thomas. That would be pretty hefty as well.

[Peter]

They were already under contract. If you can't think of a free agent signed for $2.5 million with the intent to ride the IR, just say so.


They've paid more to achieve their objectives in the past. They've signed players before to ride IR. Marks isn't usually sitting for cheap. Plus you have the option to play Brown and let someone else sit if the current cast isn't cutting it. Based on what I've seen this season, that's not too far fetched.

[Peter]

And they'll get no compensation when he leaves.


Sure, but they have him now and 2 years left on that buyout. They can afford to wait a little. It's not like Scola can offer them $2 mil and be done with it.



But you were just talking about a full MLE deal for Thomas. That would be pretty hefty as well.

Yeah, for two seasons. Scola would need one past three.

[ChumpDumper]

They've paid more to achieve their objectives in the past. They've signed players before to ride IR.But they haven't signed a free agent for $2.5 million with the intent of sitting them on the IR. I couldn't find any team that has.
Marks isn't usually sitting for cheap.He absolutely is. The league pays half his salary for chrissakes.
Plus you have the option to play Brown and let someone else sit if the current cast isn't cutting it.So we IR the $5 million/yr man with 2 more years on his deal. Brilliant.

[ChumpDumper]

Sure, but they have him now and 2 years left on that buyout. They can afford to wait a little. It's not like Scola can offer them $2 mil and be done with it.How about 7? It's not like he's scheduled to make $14 million from Tau the next two seasons.
Yeah, for two seasons. Scola would need one past three.But you said you would promise TT a bigger payday after that. What would the tax consequences of that be?

[Peter]

But they haven't signed a free agent for $2.5 million with the intent of sitting them on the IR.


Assuming the intent was there. Again, this season has shown why that might not have been so.




I couldn't find any team that has.He absolutely is.


So the Spurs are paying him to sit. The Spurs have paid guys more to leave.




The league pays half his salary for chrissakes.So we IR the $5 million/yr man with 2 more years on his deal. Brilliant.

Well, they've paid guys more to go away. Would you rather the Spurs had a player who was good enough to beat him for a rotational spot or not?

[Peter]

How about 7? It's not like he's scheduled to make $14 million from Tau the next two seasons.


Unless someone comes up with the cash he's stuck there. Taxes plus buyout would wipe out about 75% of a MLE deal for 3 years, if not more.




But you said you would promise TT a bigger payday after that. What would the tax consequences of that be?


Promise? Feh, this is the NBA.

[ChumpDumper]

Assuming the intent was there.No one can tell me that anyone expected more than 4th swing spot for Devin. Considering we already had a $5 million man there, spending more made no sense.
So the Spurs are paying him to sit. The Spurs have paid guys more to leave.I understand you couldn't think of a free agent so signed. It's ok.
Would you rather the Spurs had a player who was good enough to beat him for a rotational spot or not?It's not what I want -- it's what makes sense. After Finley was signed, getting Devin for anything more than the minimum -- effectively having $10 million of salaries fighting for the fourth swing spot -- made no sense.

[ChumpDumper]

Unless someone comes up with the cash he's stuck there.So you've negotiated buyouts before? No one has ever taken a loan to pay one or paid in installments?
Promise? Feh, this is the NBA.You said you'd pay him more after the initial contract. Must not have been thinking about the tax then. I suppose real GMs would.

[baseline bum]

I was willing to give Spree a second chance after the PJ incident, and he became one of my favorite players. However, there is no way I want him in San Antonio now after the way he wrecked the TimberWolves last season. Minny should have been a title contender, but he single-handedly ruined that team.

[pache100]

I was willing to give Spree a second chance after the PJ incident, and he became one of my favorite players. However, there is no way I want him in San Antonio now after the way he wrecked the TimberWolves last season. Minny should have been a title contender, but he single-handedly ruined that team.

:tu

There's lots of kinds of "trouble"; Spre pretty much knows about and practices all of them.

[boutons_]

Spree can't shoot for shit anymore. He's done.

No trade today is gonna fix Tim's PF.

[WalterBenitez]

But the biggest reason Tau took such a hard line on Scola was that they had to qualify to stay in Euroleague based in part on their performance this season. That has been accomplished.

No Offense, but I think it was a mix of a stupid agent and youth of Scola

[pache100]

No Offense, but I think it was a mix of a stupid agent and youth of Scola

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[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Thomas would be ideal, Sprewell wouldn't be the end of the world I guess, though I wouldn't want the Spurs to have anything to do with that dope finally getting a ring.

[Despot]

Most people who have followed the Spurs since before they were champions knows that Sprewell will one day be a Spur. It's just a matter of when. Spree is Pop's favorite player of all-time, so don't be stunned when the Spurs bring him in.

Would I sign Spree now? Of course.

Neither Finley nor Barry are exactly tearing it up. Giving them some competition can't hurt. Sprewell is a guy who will go out and play his hardest and isn't afraid to mix it up. You can't say that about Finley or Barry.

Spree :tu

Thomas :tu

The Spurs have been searching for The Long Three. Thomas is a picture perfect TLT.

:smokin

You could not have said it better. The discussion should have ended with that.