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The_Game
02-23-2006, 03:33 PM
IM listening to Rick Barry on 680 KNBR San Francisco and he just said that his son called him and the Spurs told him he wasnt going on the plane with them...that all he said, said a trade will probably happen..more to come.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
02-23-2006, 03:34 PM
Brent Barry for Tim Thomas anyone?

Dunc
02-23-2006, 03:35 PM
Crazy shit that

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 03:35 PM
You are obviously quoting someone -- so who said that they heard it on the radio?

Peter
02-23-2006, 03:35 PM
Brent Barry for Tim Thomas anyone?


If you can find $10 mil more in salaries that the Spurs can send out without gutting the team, sure.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
02-23-2006, 03:36 PM
If you can find $10 mil more in salaries that the Spurs can send out without gutting the team, sure.

ah true, i forgot thomas is getting paid so much

The_Game
02-23-2006, 03:36 PM
You are obviously quoting someone -- so who said that they heard it on the radio?

A very good poster who is normally very truthful about trades.

50 cent
02-23-2006, 03:37 PM
Interesting...

50 cent
02-23-2006, 03:37 PM
A very good poster who is normally very truthful about trades.
A posted from where?

rayray2k8
02-23-2006, 03:37 PM
A very good poster who is normally very truthful about trades.
:shootme
yea i bet

timvp
02-23-2006, 03:37 PM
Don't buy it. :td

Peter
02-23-2006, 03:38 PM
Assuming so, it'd be interesting to see what they got back. If they don't get a swing then Spree or Thomas better be on their way because they'd have absolutely no depth at the swing spots. Barry hasn't been that great in SA, but he knows the system now and opponents always have to respect his shot.

50 cent
02-23-2006, 03:38 PM
They might have been shopping him, but most likely couldn't find a good deal.

timvp
02-23-2006, 03:38 PM
Someone is going for the Jimcs50 thread of the day.

Peter
02-23-2006, 03:39 PM
Someone is going for the Jimcs50 thread of the day.

That's what I'm feeling.

The_Game
02-23-2006, 03:39 PM
A posted from where?

insidehoops.com

Streakyshooter08
02-23-2006, 03:39 PM
I don't believe it. Who would be interested in taking Barrys contract. Maybe if you throw in Scola but i highly doubt it...

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
02-23-2006, 03:39 PM
Don't buy it. :td

Well, I think the spurs would be flying out today. So whoever started this rumor did their homework

rayray2k8
02-23-2006, 03:40 PM
insidehoops.com
I should have known!!! :rollin

Peter
02-23-2006, 03:40 PM
In addition, next season the Spurs would have his expiring contract to shop around...or just let it expire.

The_Game
02-23-2006, 03:40 PM
Someone is going for the Jimcs50 thread of the day.

I'm only posting something that was posted elsewhere and thought i should let people know

don't shoot the messenger.

Trainwreck2100
02-23-2006, 03:40 PM
Someone is going for the Jimcs50 thread of the day.

???

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 03:40 PM
I'm only posting something that was posted elsewhere and thought i should let people know

don't shoot the messenger.


It's okay. Thanks for posting it.

Peter
02-23-2006, 03:41 PM
At least there was some kind of source given, though it's word of mouf.

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 03:42 PM
The reason I doubt it's true is because Brent Barry doesn't like his dad enough to call him and tell him something right away :lol

Despot
02-23-2006, 03:42 PM
I don't believe it. But I would be sad to see him go.

Spurminator
02-23-2006, 03:42 PM
http://www.knbr.com/listenNow.html

You can listen here if you think he might repeat it...

xcoriate
02-23-2006, 03:43 PM
Jimcs is a bad man and an evil dentist

Fabbs
02-23-2006, 03:43 PM
Barry did a very good job both in the WCFs vs Phx and Finals vs Detroit.

Barry Haters can get bent.

rayray2k8
02-23-2006, 03:43 PM
I check it out, and it has nothing in insidehoops that mentions brent barry..

Peter
02-23-2006, 03:44 PM
It's a possibility that the Spurs told him to wait because they were talking trade, though nothing materialized.

The_Game
02-23-2006, 03:44 PM
I meant on the message board

rayray2k8
02-23-2006, 03:45 PM
I meant on the message board
well fuck man, say something!

midgetonadonkey
02-23-2006, 03:45 PM
It's a bunch of caca.

unstandable
02-23-2006, 03:46 PM
Some of the posters on this Warrior board heard the same thing (search for Barry on the page):

http://forums.warriorsworld.net/main/

ro_50
02-23-2006, 03:46 PM
Dont some teams make trade announcements even after the trade deadline has passed because of the paperwork.

I remember that happened in the 1994 trade deadline swap of Danny Manning-Dominique Wilkins.

The_Game
02-23-2006, 03:46 PM
well fuck man, say something!

It should of been obvious when I said a very good POSTER"

BigVee
02-23-2006, 03:47 PM
Maybe he is being saved for Golden State.

Peter
02-23-2006, 03:47 PM
Dont some teams make trade announcements even after the trade deadline has passed because of the paperwork.

I remember that happened in the 1994 trade deadline swap of Danny Manning-Dominique Wilkins.


Yep. All they have to do is inform the league that they are in serious talks and then they are given additional time to complete the deal. The league still has to approve the deal, of course. This is probably why the "deadline" was moved up this year.

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 03:48 PM
Dont some teams make trade announcements even after the trade deadline has passed because of the paperwork.

I remember that happened in the 1994 trade deadline swap of Danny Manning-Dominique Wilkins.

Yes. Many trades get announced after the deadline. They just have to get the preliminary paperwork to the league office by the deadline.

Manu20
02-23-2006, 03:48 PM
I check it out, and it has nothing in insidehoops that mentions brent barry..

http://p089.ezboard.com/finsidehoopsfrm1.showMessageRange?topicID=69639.to pic&start=1&stop=20

Horry For 3!
02-23-2006, 03:48 PM
Some of the posters on this Warrior board heard the same thing (search for Barry on the page):

http://forums.warriorsworld.net/main/
That board they are saying Barry traded for Fisher....

ro_50
02-23-2006, 03:49 PM
I know Pop is a big fan of D Fisher.

He tried to get him a few summers ago and I heard he even offered him a contract.

Mixability
02-23-2006, 03:49 PM
That board they are saying Barry traded for Fisher....

I'm sure EVERYONE would like that! :lol

cheguevara
02-23-2006, 03:50 PM
That board they are saying Barry traded for Fisher....

what??

timvp
02-23-2006, 03:50 PM
Some of the posters on this Warrior board heard the same thing (search for Barry on the page):

http://forums.warriorsworld.net/main/

:wow

I apologize to The Game.

Ladies and Gentlemen, let the thread begin.

Fabbs
02-23-2006, 03:50 PM
That board they are saying Barry traded for Fisher....

:spin Yeah right we're gonna have 5 pt guards now. Only way that would work is if we in turn sent D Swisher to ???? for another player.

timvp
02-23-2006, 03:50 PM
Barry for Fisher I'd do in a second.

The_Game
02-23-2006, 03:50 PM
0.4

Horry For 3!
02-23-2006, 03:51 PM
Barry's trade didn't go through, i'm listening now.

Taco
02-23-2006, 03:51 PM
Rick Barry said the trade did not go through

rayray2k8
02-23-2006, 03:51 PM
rick barry just said the trade didnt go through..

cheguevara
02-23-2006, 03:51 PM
mmmmm

Oh, Gee!!
02-23-2006, 03:51 PM
Can Beno go with Barry?

Horry For 3!
02-23-2006, 03:51 PM
Rick Barry just said Brent is still with the Spurs because the trade didn't go through.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
02-23-2006, 03:51 PM
Barry for Fisher I'd do in a second.

Doesn't make sense for G.State, they already got their own Brent Barry Clone in Mike Dunleavy

ShoogarBear
02-23-2006, 03:52 PM
So, if true, the Spurs picked up a contract with an extra 2 years and $17 million?

EDIT: n/m, everyone saying it didn't go through now.

midgetonadonkey
02-23-2006, 03:52 PM
Did he say why it didn't go through?

rayray2k8
02-23-2006, 03:52 PM
okay so its time to close this thread

The_Game
02-23-2006, 03:52 PM
oh well

at least it was legit for a while

Warlord23
02-23-2006, 03:52 PM
Fisher? Damn, hope that's not true. I'd rather have a passive-shooting but unselfish Barry rather than that no-defense chucker.

Horry For 3!
02-23-2006, 03:52 PM
Did he say why it didn't go through?
No. He just said it didn't go through.

Despot
02-23-2006, 03:52 PM
That board they are saying Barry traded for Fisher....


no..... please no......

maybe they just want him for stunts....like for fans to shoot him with a paintball gun in the crotch....

Horry For 3!
02-23-2006, 03:52 PM
Rick Barry just said Brent is still with the Spurs because the trade didn't go through.

Trainwreck2100
02-23-2006, 03:52 PM
So now he gets a day off, good for him

ShoogarBear
02-23-2006, 03:53 PM
Fisher? Damn, hope that's not true. I'd rather have a passive-shooting but unselfish Barry rather than that no-defense chucker.

Fisher? No defense? What league you been watching?

ro_50
02-23-2006, 03:53 PM
wow, close call.

That would have been outrageous if it went down.

Horry For 3!
02-23-2006, 03:53 PM
So it must have been Barry for Fisher, I am guessing.

midgetonadonkey
02-23-2006, 03:54 PM
maybe Pop called Rick Barry and threatened his life so he can keep his mouth shut until it's finalized.

timvp
02-23-2006, 03:54 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, this thread is now finished :)

Peter
02-23-2006, 03:54 PM
Barry for Fisher? I'd do it but Fisher's contract ends in like 2019.

Despot
02-23-2006, 03:54 PM
maybe Pop called Rick Barry and threatened his life so he can keep his mouth shut until it's finalized.

That's what i'm thinking.

ChumpDumper
02-23-2006, 03:55 PM
Barry for Fish is a laugher. Maybe that was Mullin's counter, but I don't see the Spurs asking for that.

MoSpur
02-23-2006, 03:56 PM
Fisher can hit the big shot. Like in .4 seconds. I like it.

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 03:56 PM
So, did he NOT get on the plane and now he didn't get traded?

That's kind of funny.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
02-23-2006, 03:57 PM
So, did he NOT get on the plane and now he didn't get traded?

That's kind of funny.

Pretty sick early april fools joke

Trainwreck2100
02-23-2006, 03:57 PM
Hopefully this lights a fire under his ass`

timvp
02-23-2006, 03:58 PM
Knowing the Spurs, they tried to trade Barry for an expiring contract.

Spurminator
02-23-2006, 03:59 PM
Man... that trade fell through faster than you can catch, turn and shoot.

BigVee
02-23-2006, 03:59 PM
So, did he NOT get on the plane and now he didn't get traded?

That's kind of funny.
This ought to do wonders for his morale/confidence.

Peter
02-23-2006, 03:59 PM
Knowing the Spurs, they tried to trade Barry for an expiring contract.


Maybe Manute Bol's contract is still lying around...

ChumpDumper
02-23-2006, 03:59 PM
Why would it have to be Golden State anyway?

ploto
02-23-2006, 04:00 PM
Knowing the Spurs, they tried to trade Barry for an expiring contract.
Certainly not Fisher's.

Peter
02-23-2006, 04:00 PM
Why would it have to be Golden State anyway?


Prob because it came from the Warriors' flagship station.

ploto
02-23-2006, 04:01 PM
Why would it have to be Golden State anyway?
I asked the same thing. His dad just happens to be in SF.

MoSpur
02-23-2006, 04:01 PM
Barry knows himself he hasn't produced. He's even said it himself. The only reason I'd want Barry to stay is because he is a great locker room guy. He hasn't caught on to the offensive system. He seems hesistant when he has the opportunity to shoot. I guess he'd rather pass to Tony, Manu, or Tim and not get looked at for missing a scoring opportunity.

unstandable
02-23-2006, 04:01 PM
It wouldn't have been to Golden State. It was on SF radio because that's where Rick Barry works. Golden State fans were just hoping that the deal was for Derek Fisher.

dknights411
02-23-2006, 04:02 PM
Man... that trade fell through faster than you can catch, turn and shoot.

10 bucks says that it only took .4 seconds to kill the deal.

ChumpDumper
02-23-2006, 04:02 PM
But Rick didn't know, he just called the station - doesn't he live in the bay area?

Aggie Hoopsfan
02-23-2006, 04:03 PM
That one fell through because another one is going through ;)

Peter
02-23-2006, 04:03 PM
But Rick didn't know, he just called the station - doesn't he live in the bay area?


He's apparently a host on the station.

ChumpDumper
02-23-2006, 04:03 PM
My money's on Harpring, just because I could get a kluby.

Spurminator
02-23-2006, 04:03 PM
He hosts a show on that station, Chump.

dknights411
02-23-2006, 04:04 PM
That one fell through because another one is going through ;)

Great more speculation. Didn't the deadline pass like an hour ago?

Peter
02-23-2006, 04:05 PM
Any deal w/the Warriors probably fell through when Nesterovic was offered for Murphy.

FromWayDowntown
02-23-2006, 04:07 PM
Moving Barry would seem to be a necessary step in any move to acquire either Tim Thomas or Latrell Sprewell. If that's what the Spurs have in mind, I doubt that they were offering much resistance in any negotiations; though I'm sure they weren't (aren't) going to take a hideous contract back.

Peter
02-23-2006, 04:10 PM
Moving Barry would seem to be a necessary step in any move to acquire either Tim Thomas or Latrell Sprewell. If that's what the Spurs have in mind, I doubt that they were offering much resistance in any negotiations; though I'm sure they weren't (aren't) going to take a hideous contract back.


Hmmm...I think the Spurs would add Spree or Thomas regardless of what happens with Barry. I do agree that Barry would be moved for a shorter contract.

MoSpur
02-23-2006, 04:11 PM
Oh Well. No Use In Talking About It Now. It Fell Through I Guess.

FromWayDowntown
02-23-2006, 04:12 PM
Hmmm...I think the Spurs would add Spree or Thomas regardless of what happens with Barry. I do agree that Barry would be moved for a shorter contract.

I could see that having Barry around wouldn't necessarily be an impediment to acquiring those guys, but I'd think the optimal decision would be to move a wing to reduce the clutter before bringing in one of those guys.

50 cent
02-23-2006, 04:14 PM
There is no way the Spurs would add that much salary for Brent (talking about Fisher). We all know they would be looking for an expiring contract or a young SF.

Peter
02-23-2006, 04:14 PM
I could see that having Barry around wouldn't necessarily be an impediment to acquiring those guys, but I'd think the optimal decision would be to move a wing to reduce the clutter before bringing in one of those guys.

Well, they only have 4 swings and Pop's had no problem kicking Barry to the curb.

cheguevara
02-23-2006, 04:15 PM
Man... that trade fell through faster than you can catch, turn and shoot.

which means more than .4 seconds right?

timvp
02-23-2006, 04:17 PM
Barry for a Tariq Abdul-Wahad type contract is probably what the trade was about. Perhaps it was for Olivier Saint-Jean...

FromWayDowntown
02-23-2006, 04:18 PM
Barry for a Tariq Abdul-Wahad type contract is probably what the trade was about. Perhaps it was for Olivier Saint-Jean...

:lol

Abdul-Wahad has the same ridiculous contract as Saint-Jean.

spurster
02-23-2006, 04:23 PM
So this amounts to the Spurs wanting to trade Brent and the Warriors wanting to trade Fisher, but one of the teams not wanting what they would get.

Fisher was clutch, but he's aged too much now. A fourth PG is little too much, too.

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
02-23-2006, 04:24 PM
Where was it said that the trade was for fisher?? I thought that was just a G.State fans rumor

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 04:25 PM
I don't think Rick Barry ever said who it was supposedly for, right?

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
02-23-2006, 04:26 PM
I don't think Rick Barry ever said who it was supposedly for, right?

Thats what I thought

Peter
02-23-2006, 04:27 PM
I don't think Rick Barry ever said who it was supposedly for, right?


The Warriors speculation was due to Rick announcing it on a SF AM station.

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 04:31 PM
The Warriors speculation was due to Rick announcing it on a SF AM station.

That's where he works. Where else could he have announced it?

Peter
02-23-2006, 04:32 PM
That's where he works. Where else could he have announced it?


I'm not faulting the man, but that seems to be the only foundation for the Barry to GS rumor.

Brutalis
02-23-2006, 04:33 PM
The trade deadline has passed. Why is this still going?

Despot
02-23-2006, 04:35 PM
For trades to be considered past the deadline, do the basics of the trade have to be given to the L before the original deadline?? Or could they call up right now with a new trade and ask for more time?

timvp
02-23-2006, 04:35 PM
The trade deadline has passed. Why is this still going?

:lol @ the trade deadline virgin

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 04:35 PM
For trades to be considered past the deadline, do the basics of the trade have to be given to the L before the original deadline??

Some paperwork has to be submitted that they are working on something and then they can be granted an extension.

timvp
02-23-2006, 04:36 PM
You'll see a couple more trades trickle down. The Malik trade wasn't finish until a couple hours after the deadline, IIRC.

Brutalis
02-23-2006, 04:36 PM
uh?

Nowhere does it say anything about an extension on any site that's trustworthy.

Despot
02-23-2006, 04:37 PM
uh?

Nowhere does it say anything about an extension on any site that's trustworthy.

Just because the media does not know about it doesn't mean it hasn't been submitted to the League office.

Brutalis
02-23-2006, 04:38 PM
Your point?

Aggie Hoopsfan
02-23-2006, 04:39 PM
uh?

Nowhere does it say anything about an extension on any site that's trustworthy.

About the best advice I could give you would be to shut up and trust those of us who have been through it before for a couple of years running.

Despot
02-23-2006, 04:42 PM
Your point?

That some people think that every trade that will happen will have been announced by the trade deadline.

spurs=bling
02-23-2006, 04:43 PM
You'll see a couple more trades trickle down. The Malik trade wasn't finish until a couple hours after the deadline, IIRC.
:depressed

Brutalis
02-23-2006, 04:43 PM
I guess I'll take ya'lls word for it.

Brutalis
02-23-2006, 04:45 PM
BARRY AND RASHO, GO GO GO

spurs=bling
02-23-2006, 04:48 PM
BARRY AND RASHO, GO GO GO
:pctoss :pctoss :depressed :depressed :pctoss :pctoss

i'll let the smilies do the talking.

Brutalis
02-23-2006, 04:49 PM
I hope the Rasho fans can face the facts that he's just soft and not helping the Spurs much like he should be. If he gets traded it's his own fault.

Despot
02-23-2006, 04:57 PM
BARRY AND RASHO, GO GO GO

Well said

Trainwreck2100
02-23-2006, 05:05 PM
Because the trade was announced, Brent Barry will be a Spur for awhile. CIA.

dknights411
02-23-2006, 05:06 PM
Because the trade was announced, Brent Barry will be a Spur for awhile. CIA.

Does that mean he WAS traded?

Brutalis
02-23-2006, 05:11 PM
its too quiet around here for something not to be up...

Peter
02-23-2006, 05:11 PM
NBA TV just gave a trade rundown with no mention of Barry.

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 05:14 PM
Oh well.

Good try, Spurs :lol

I'm just wondering if he was on the charter flight or not. I think it's funny if he had to fly separately.

Peter
02-23-2006, 05:15 PM
Picking up Spree for nothing would probably be a better basketball move than anything they could've landed for Barry. Picking up Thomas would be even better.

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 05:17 PM
Another meaningless trade (just noting it):

Philadelphia 76ers President Billy King announced today that the team has traded forward Lee Nailon and a 2006 second round pick to the Cleveland Cavaliers in exchange for a conditional second round pick in the 2006 NBA Draft.

Also ..

ESPN's Marc Stein has learned that Flip Murray has been sent to Cleveland in exchange for Mike Wilks and $500,000 cash.

ro_50
02-23-2006, 05:18 PM
Nailon gets traded every year.

Mixability
02-23-2006, 05:20 PM
ESPN's Marc Stein has learned that Flip Murray has been sent to Cleveland in exchange for Mike Wilks and $500,000 cash.

To be traded for another player plus cash must be a hit to your self esteem. For your talent to be priced 1/2 mil lower than another player must suck.

spurs_fan_in_exile
02-23-2006, 05:23 PM
To be traded for another player plus cash must be a hit to your self esteem. For your talent to be priced 1/2 mil lower than another player must suck.

When I was younger I thought that when a trade like this happened the traded player would show up for practice carrying a brief case full of cash. Kind of like a big drug deal.

SpursWoman
02-23-2006, 05:25 PM
When I was younger I thought that when a trade like this happened the traded player would show up for practice carrying a brief case full of cash. Kind of like a big drug deal.


They don't? :oops
























:lmao

CubanMustGo
02-23-2006, 05:29 PM
uh?

Nowhere does it say anything about an extension on any site that's trustworthy.

"The NBA trade deadline has passed, but we still expect deals."

Source: www.espn.com

Peter
02-23-2006, 05:29 PM
In other news, White Shadow is on NBA TV.

Despot
02-23-2006, 05:32 PM
In other news, White Shadow is on NBA TV.
What about Brent?

ro_50
02-23-2006, 05:33 PM
Brent Barry would be the perfect character for a new version of the White Shadow.

Peter
02-23-2006, 05:33 PM
What about Brent?


No, not that white shadow.

Despot
02-23-2006, 05:39 PM
No, not that white shadow.

Oh, because he is white......and when he's on the court, he's not really there....ya' know, kinda like a shadow.

mikejones99
02-23-2006, 05:42 PM
Where did Malik Rose go?

AlamoSpursFan
02-23-2006, 05:51 PM
I'll bet if the wizard didn't turn himself into a prince, the trade would've gone through...

:lol

Shelly
02-23-2006, 05:57 PM
In other news, White Shadow is on NBA TV.


I love that show! How can you not like a show that has a character named Salami?

dknights411
02-23-2006, 06:03 PM
I love that show! How can you not like a show that has a character named Salami?

Growing Pains had a character named Bonner. It still sucked however. (the show, not the character)

Mr. Peabody
02-23-2006, 06:22 PM
Growing Pains had a character named Bonner. It still sucked however. (the show, not the character)

It think his name was Boner.

http://www.geocities.co.jp/Hollywood-Miyuki/4181/cast/Boner.jpg

leemajors
02-23-2006, 06:28 PM
it was boner. family ties was a much better show, it actually has my favorite drug episode where michael j fox gets all hopped up on meth studying for class. right above cosby show where they find a joint in theo's textbook...

Mr. Peabody
02-23-2006, 06:29 PM
The Ticket said the deal was for Mike Dunleavy. Interesting.

Crookshanks
02-23-2006, 06:30 PM
Brent was on the charter to Memphis - I think his dad was mistaken about the whole thing!

Despot
02-23-2006, 06:34 PM
Brent was on the charter to Memphis - I think his dad was mistaken about the whole thing!

Pop, is that you?

Solid D
02-23-2006, 06:36 PM
Soooooo....if Brent did get on the plane, does that mean he might get traded to Memphis?

:smokin

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 06:37 PM
The Ticket said the deal was for Mike Dunleavy. Interesting.

I called Don Harris about the rumor when it came up here and he was trying to find out who it was for.

So I guess that answers that.

timvp
02-23-2006, 06:37 PM
The Ticket said the deal was for Mike Dunleavy. Interesting.

:vomit

Thank God that trade didn't go down. All the Spurs need is a more wussified version of Brent Barry with a giant contract.

PM5K
02-23-2006, 06:37 PM
I just wish they would trade Rasho back to Solvenia...

timvp
02-23-2006, 06:42 PM
Barry for Dunleavy straight up doesn't look like it works. I wonder what the deal was.

Either way, Dunleavy not the Spurs is a plus.

angel_luv
02-23-2006, 06:43 PM
I would have been so mad if Brent got traded. I can't wait until tomorrow. This is my least favorite day of the year.

ploto
02-23-2006, 06:45 PM
Barry for Dunleavy straight up doesn't look like it works. I wonder what the deal was.


Dunleavy makes little sense. It wasn't even necessarily GS.

No offense to Don, but he believed Pop yesterday when he said the Spurs weren't looking to trade.

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 06:46 PM
http://www.ticket760.com

Click Listen Live.

After the commercial break, Don Harris is coming back with the scoop on it.

Mr. Peabody
02-23-2006, 06:46 PM
Barry for Dunleavy straight up doesn't look like it works. I wonder what the deal was.

Either way, Dunleavy not the Spurs is a plus.

Well, the guys on the Ticket were speculating that it was Dunleavy. It may not have been.

timvp
02-23-2006, 06:48 PM
Dunleavy makes little sense. It wasn't even necessarily GS.

No offense to Don, but he believed Pop yesterday when he said the Spurs weren't looking to trade.

The Spurs are usually pretty honest AFTER the trade deadline about what they were trying to do.

adidas11
02-23-2006, 06:48 PM
Any update on this yet?

ploto
02-23-2006, 06:48 PM
Brent was on the charter to Memphis - I think his dad was mistaken about the whole thing!
The deal supposedly fell through. He would still have had time to then catch the plane. I am sure they don't leave for that short of a flight before 2 PM.

ploto
02-23-2006, 06:49 PM
The Spurs are usually pretty honest AFTER the trade deadline about what they were trying to do.

But the Spurs haven't said anything-- that I know of.

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 06:50 PM
But the Spurs haven't said anything-- that I know of. Same station reported wrong before on Kidd.

I don't know if Don confirmed it was the Warriors/Dunleavy.

Just listen live now - they are going to be talking about it after the commercial break.

Someone here said the Ticket guys (Vex/Walter) were just speculating about Dunleavy.

Despot
02-23-2006, 06:51 PM
Dunleavy makes little sense. It wasn't even necessarily GS.

No offense to Don, but he believed Pop yesterday when he said the Spurs weren't looking to trade.

I have my reservations about it being GS also. I'm just wondering if too much was put into it being announced on a SF radio station. Dunleavy just doesn't seem right either, but hell, what do I know.

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 06:54 PM
Don just said only what we know here.

Rick said on his show that Brent called him this morning and told him that he wasn't going to Memphis that he was told not to go to the plane, etc.

Then Rick speculated that it might be to Golden State.

Then right before the Spurs boarded, Rick reported that the deal was called off.

Brent got on the plane and went to Memphis.

So all other speculation by Walter, Vex and anyone else on it being with the Warriors, for Dunleavy, whatever, is just speculation.

Despot
02-23-2006, 06:57 PM
Maybe they were trying to get in on the four team trade. /speculation

texbumTHElife
02-23-2006, 07:00 PM
Maybe they were trying to get in on the four team trade. /speculation


If this is the case then the deal isnt officially dead yet I would think. That much paper work would leave a lot of doors open...

ploto
02-23-2006, 07:02 PM
No one with the Spurs is talking- huh? I have someone I can sometimes get scoop out of and can't get anything out of him either.

angel_luv
02-23-2006, 07:04 PM
No one with the Spurs is talking- huh? I have someone I can sometimes get scoop out of and can't get anything out of him either.


What do you make of that?

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 07:04 PM
They must have been damn close for them to tell Barry not to go to the plane. I wonder what exactly made it (whatever it was) fall through.

ploto
02-23-2006, 07:05 PM
They must have been damn close for them to tell Barry not to go to the plane. I wonder what exactly made it (whatever it was) fall through.
You and me both.

angel_luv
02-23-2006, 07:08 PM
They must have been damn close for them to tell Barry not to go to the plane. I wonder what exactly made it (whatever it was) fall through.


Poor Brent. He didn't have a very fun day.

I am guessing we've heard all the details we are getting. Sound accurate?

ploto
02-23-2006, 07:08 PM
What do you make of that?
Don Harris said he talked to his sources- got info about everyone being on the plane, etc, but he didn't answer anything about who it might have been for. I think if I remember correctly, 2 years ago we found out Malik almost went for Thomas through NY media and not SA or the Spurs. And even last year, I believe we found out the Knicks wanted Rasho for NAzr through NY sources.

ploto
02-23-2006, 07:09 PM
Poor Brent. He didn't have a very fun day.

I am guessing we've heard all the details we are getting. Sound accurate?
Someone from the other side may spill the beans.

timvp
02-23-2006, 07:11 PM
Poor Brent. He didn't have a very fun day.

Perhaps Brent wanted to get traded.

Bruno
02-23-2006, 07:12 PM
Can a deal still happen or is it totally over ?

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 07:13 PM
Can a deal still happen or is it totally over ?


If they have some paperwork turned into the league office and they are still working on it, then it can happen. It doesn't seem like that's the case.

But I guess anything is possible.

Bruno
02-23-2006, 07:14 PM
Thanks

SequSpur
02-23-2006, 07:39 PM
Rasho is still on the plane because he has to unload all the luggage and drive the cab to the hotel.

ALVAREZ6
02-23-2006, 07:42 PM
:wtf

:wtf

:wtf



What happened?

Brutalis
02-23-2006, 07:43 PM
Barry for Dunleavy would have been awesome.

Aggie Hoopsfan
02-23-2006, 07:57 PM
Dunleavy's a fucking scrub, I would have gone Ghostal if this went through :td

ShoogarBear
02-23-2006, 08:08 PM
Dunleavy is only in his third year. He definitely made a mistake by leaving college early, then going to a bad team where he probably hasn't been getting much good coaching, but I don't know why a lot of people have given up on him.

If the Spurs had gotten him, the worst case scenario is he's Hedo II (which is arguably not much different from Barry), and the best case scenario is a long term solution at the 3.

His contract is the only thing that would have given me pause.

SoCalSpursFan
02-23-2006, 08:12 PM
Mikey D? Not sure he would have been a good addition...

I expected a lot out of him this year...picked him on most of my fantasy teams...yea...needless to say I am last in most of my leagues.

I blame it all on Mike D.

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 08:14 PM
Dunleavy was just Vexler/Pasacrita speculation.

I'm guessing the supposed trade wasn't even with Golden State.

Que Gee
02-23-2006, 08:32 PM
Dunleavy was just Vexler/Pasacrita speculation.

I'm guessing the supposed trade wasn't even with Golden State.

It was to the Hornets...it fell through and its not going to happen...(obviously)

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 08:35 PM
It was to the Hornets...it fell through and its not going to happen...(obviously)

Where did you hear it was to the Hornets?

Que Gee
02-23-2006, 08:36 PM
Where did you hear it was to the Hornets?

Contacts...
:spin

timvp
02-23-2006, 08:36 PM
Hornets have cap room.

That explains it.

Probably Barry and a pick for token player.

Kori Ellis
02-23-2006, 08:37 PM
Contacts...
:spin

Sweet!

Thanks for the info.

timvp
02-23-2006, 08:37 PM
If it was for JR Smith, that would have been one heck of a steal.

However, I'm guessing perhaps someone like Nachbar or Butler or someone like that.

timvp
02-23-2006, 08:40 PM
I knew Que Gee was related to Brent Barry.

:)

ploto
02-23-2006, 08:41 PM
When I saw the Hornets deal with the Nets I wondered if we had tried to get Boki- a long 3 who can shoot, but I know they wanted a big man in return.

Que Gee
02-23-2006, 08:41 PM
If it was for JR Smith, that would have been one heck of a steal.

However, I'm guessing perhaps someone like Nachbar or Butler or someone like that.

Ya, JR would have been nice.

ploto
02-23-2006, 08:43 PM
Ya, JR would have been nice.

He's a reasonable guess since a lot of people thought he would get traded today and he didn't. I also speculated on Boki because he DID get traded and I would just love to see all the heads explode with Rasho, Beno, and Boki all on this team!!!.

timvp
02-23-2006, 08:45 PM
Ya, JR would have been nice.

Does your contact say JR was involved?

Que Gee
02-23-2006, 08:46 PM
I knew Que Gee was related to Brent Barry.

:)


Well, I actually want JR :lol

Que Gee
02-23-2006, 08:47 PM
Does your contact say JR was involved?

No, I have no idea who it was for specifically, they just heard it was to the Hornets.

timvp
02-23-2006, 08:51 PM
It better not come out that the Spurs were about to get JR Smith and then Rod Thorn baller blocked the Spurs AGAIN and came in and got another deal done with the Hornets instead.

Rod Thorn would be public enemy number one. JR Smith on the Spurs would have been a great piece for the future. Imagine a player with Kobe like potential.

:pctoss

GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI
02-23-2006, 08:52 PM
It better not come out that the Spurs were about to get JR Smith and then Rod Thorn baller blocked the Spurs AGAIN and came in and got another deal done with the Hornets instead.

Rod Thorn would be public enemy number one. JR Smith on the Spurs would have been a great piece for the future. Imagine a player with Kobe like potential.

:pctoss


Wasn't it the Hornets who got screwed on the Kobe deal?

timvp
02-23-2006, 09:00 PM
Wasn't it the Hornets who got screwed on the Kobe deal?

Exactly.

:smokin






P.S.

Where is Vlade when you need him?

Peter
02-23-2006, 09:07 PM
I like Dunleavy. I don't like Dunleavy with 4 years and $40 mil left on his deal. I imagine the Spurs feel the same way.

If it was the Hornets, then the Spurs were probably looking to dump Barry for nothing so they'd get under the lux tax threshold. Then they could sign Spree or Thomas to be their 4th swing. To that end, I bet that Spree to SA is a sure thing if the Spurs can't get Thomas. At this point the cost of signing a vet player for the remaining 29 or so games plus the lux tax hit is not that great.

Peter
02-23-2006, 09:09 PM
It better not come out that the Spurs were about to get JR Smith and then Rod Thorn baller blocked the Spurs AGAIN and came in and got another deal done with the Hornets instead.

Rod Thorn would be public enemy number one. JR Smith on the Spurs would have been a great piece for the future. Imagine a player with Kobe like potential.

:pctoss


Thorn has hung on the Spurs' nuts before (ie Nonad).

Leetonidas
02-23-2006, 09:11 PM
Just thinking about JR Smith with the Spurs makes me happy in my pants.

Peter
02-23-2006, 09:12 PM
My guess is that it was Barry for Nachbar or Barry for a 2nd round pick in 2012.

Leetonidas
02-23-2006, 09:14 PM
So it's pretty safe to say that unless we get Spreewell (which I actually think we will) or Tim Thomas, we're not aquiring anyone else?

Peter
02-23-2006, 09:18 PM
So it's pretty safe to say that unless we get Spreewell (which I actually think we will) or Tim Thomas, we're not aquiring anyone else?

Probably, unless someone else of value hits the waiver wires before March 1st.

Peter
02-23-2006, 09:31 PM
Also, every indication is there that the Spurs are not enthused with Barry. Maybe it's not enough to lead them to sign a Sprewell for the remainder of the season plus incur the lux tax penalty, but double the vet min prorated for close to 1/4th of the season is not a huge expense. Given that his name has come up and judging by Pop's public comments, it does seem like he's on his way if they can't land Thomas. Trying to move Barry cements that, IMO. :hat

Despot
02-23-2006, 09:51 PM
Man...Why do I feel so disapointed?

Peter
02-23-2006, 09:56 PM
Man...Why do I feel so disapointed?

I wouldn't be. At best the Spurs were going to move Barry for Nachbar. More likely they were going to move him for nothing. Barry is better than nothing at this point.

Despot
02-23-2006, 10:05 PM
I wouldn't be. At best the Spurs were going to move Barry for Nachbar. More likely they were going to move him for nothing. Barry is better than nothing at this point.

I agree, I didn't really want anyone to get traded. On the hand, I still feel that this team needs help.

Peter
02-23-2006, 10:08 PM
I agree, I didn't really want anyone to get traded. On the hand, I still feel that this team needs help.

To me, the help the team needs is up front. The Spurs still don't really have anyone up front to consistently help TD on the glass. The closest is Mohammed. Now that Pop has him back in the starting lineup that might improve, but a Reggie Evans, for example, would have been quite nice.

mookie2001
02-23-2006, 10:14 PM
clandestino said he heard from his friend who works at the hospital

Despot
02-23-2006, 10:18 PM
It's like Pop has a rule. If the media finds out any details about a deal before it is inked, he nixes the deal.

mookie2001
02-23-2006, 10:19 PM
or nurses with conservative friends^

Slinkyman
02-23-2006, 10:21 PM
I agree, I didn't really want anyone to get traded. On the hand, I still feel that this team needs help.

i'm pretty sure we'll pick up someone (Thomas or Spree) soon, more then anything we just need to get healthy. If we get Manu, Tim and Horry at close to 100% we'll be fine, if horry or even manu isn't 100% by the playoffs it would be nice to have Thomas or Spree

aaronstampler
02-23-2006, 11:23 PM
Man, sorry, I might be in the minority here, but I am just disgusted by what I'm reading on these boards. I can't believe everyone here is clamoring for Sprewell and Thomas. It's like all the championships have made y'all spoiled and you forgot what it means to be a Spurs fan, and how WE'RE DIFFERENT than all the other organizations in sports.
Maybe I have a polyanna attitude toward the Spurs, maybe I'm naive, but I'd like to think that this organization places as much (if not more) importance to a player's character and his off the court behavior as his play on the court. I thought this organziation learned from its mistakes of the past, like Rodman.
I have to say that as a Spurs fan, I'm almost more proud of what our team represents than our on the court success. Our players don't act like clowns or jackasses after every made or missed basket, they don't rack up technicals, they don't get featured in controversial stories on ESPN, and for the most part, they take less money than market value to play here. Hell, we're even leading the charge to make the NBA a global league, which I love. My favorite sports article of all time was the one Ric Bucher wrote about our team prior to last season's playoffs,

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16870&highlight=work+play

because I think it summed up what it's like to be a Spur and what a priviledge it is to root for them. We have the best thing going in all of sports, even more so than the Patriots, because after we win championships, our players don't spend the next three months telling the media how humble and disrespected they are, and our coach doesn't criticize other teams' players on The Tonight Show.
Getting either Sprewell or Thomas would go against everything this organization stands for. First off, getting Sprewell would be a complete slap in the face to PJ. Sure, his public comments might say he's okay with it, but it's public posturing. And also, Spree is D-U-N done. He sucked last year. Second, Thomas is making 14 mil this year, but refused to play hard because he was unhappy with his situation. Just gross. And I've never been impressed with his play, either. I can't believe anyone, least of all us, would want these guys. If winning titles is more important to Spurs fans than anything else, I guess I'm not a real Spurs fan. To borrow a phrase from Larry Brown, I'd rather "win the right way."

Brodels
02-23-2006, 11:44 PM
Man, sorry, I might be in the minority here, but I am just disgusted by what I'm reading on these boards. I can't believe everyone here is clamoring for Sprewell and Thomas. It's like all the championships have made y'all spoiled and you forgot what it means to be a Spurs fan, and how WE'RE DIFFERENT than all the other organizations in sports.
Maybe I have a polyanna attitude toward the Spurs, maybe I'm naive, but I'd like to think that this organization places as much (if not more) importance to a player's character and his off the court behavior as his play on the court. I thought this organziation learned from its mistakes of the past, like Rodman.
I have to say that as a Spurs fan, I'm almost more proud of what our team represents than our on the court success. Our players don't act like clowns or jackasses after every made or missed basket, they don't rack up technicals, they don't get featured in controversial stories on ESPN, and for the most part, they take less money than market value to play here. Hell, we're even leading the charge to make the NBA a global league, which I love. My favorite sports article of all time was the one Ric Bucher wrote about our team prior to last season's playoffs,

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16870&highlight=work+play

because I think it summed up what it's like to be a Spur and what a priviledge it is to root for them. We have the best thing going in all of sports, even more so than the Patriots, because after we win championships, our players don't spend the next three months telling the media how humble and disrespected they are, and our coach doesn't criticize other teams' players on The Tonight Show.
Getting either Sprewell or Thomas would go against everything this organization stands for. First off, getting Sprewell would be a complete slap in the face to PJ. Sure, his public comments might say he's okay with it, but it's public posturing. And also, Spree is D-U-N done. He sucked last year. Second, Thomas is making 14 mil this year, but refused to play hard because he was unhappy with his situation. Just gross. And I've never been impressed with his play, either. I can't believe anyone, least of all us, would want these guys. If winning titles is more important to Spurs fans than anything else, I guess I'm not a real Spurs fan. To borrow a phrase from Larry Brown, I'd rather "win the right way."

Your outlook is certainly interesting, but it doesn't jive with what the current reality is. The Spurs are like any other team. The leadership will bring in players who they think can help the team win. That's been shown time and time again.

Pop has been trying to get Spree for years. Glenn Robinson, at the very least, is a criminal, wifebeater, and has traditionally been a malcontent. The team had no qualms there, and he ended up really helping. The team openly pursued Jason Kidd, another wife beater. Van Exel intentionally attacked a ref when he disagreed with a call, resulting in a long suspension. Pop had no trouble bringing him in.

Those are just some examples since the Rodman era. I'm sure that others here would be happy to provide additional examples.

The Spurs are just like any other team in that regard. They do what they feel is necessary to win and make money. David Robinson may have clouded your judgement in this regard, but don't be fooled just because the Spurs have had many, many great guys. The team will still pursue malcontents and criminals if it seems like it's in the best interests of the organization.

Guru of Nothing
02-23-2006, 11:54 PM
Man, sorry, I might be in the minority here, but I am just disgusted by what I'm reading on these boards. I can't believe everyone here is clamoring for Sprewell and Thomas. It's like all the championships have made y'all spoiled and you forgot what it means to be a Spurs fan, and how WE'RE DIFFERENT than all the other organizations in sports.
Maybe I have a polyanna attitude toward the Spurs, maybe I'm naive, but I'd like to think that this organization places as much (if not more) importance to a player's character and his off the court behavior as his play on the court. I thought this organziation learned from its mistakes of the past, like Rodman.
I have to say that as a Spurs fan, I'm almost more proud of what our team represents than our on the court success. Our players don't act like clowns or jackasses after every made or missed basket, they don't rack up technicals, they don't get featured in controversial stories on ESPN, and for the most part, they take less money than market value to play here. Hell, we're even leading the charge to make the NBA a global league, which I love. My favorite sports article of all time was the one Ric Bucher wrote about our team prior to last season's playoffs,

http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16870&highlight=work+play

because I think it summed up what it's like to be a Spur and what a priviledge it is to root for them. We have the best thing going in all of sports, even more so than the Patriots, because after we win championships, our players don't spend the next three months telling the media how humble and disrespected they are, and our coach doesn't criticize other teams' players on The Tonight Show.
Getting either Sprewell or Thomas would go against everything this organization stands for. First off, getting Sprewell would be a complete slap in the face to PJ. Sure, his public comments might say he's okay with it, but it's public posturing. And also, Spree is D-U-N done. He sucked last year. Second, Thomas is making 14 mil this year, but refused to play hard because he was unhappy with his situation. Just gross. And I've never been impressed with his play, either. I can't believe anyone, least of all us, would want these guys. If winning titles is more important to Spurs fans than anything else, I guess I'm not a real Spurs fan. To borrow a phrase from Larry Brown, I'd rather "win the right way."


Valid points.

Remember when Horry threw a towel at his coach's face?

Peter
02-23-2006, 11:58 PM
Valid points.

Remember when Horry threw a towel at his coach's face?


Man, I forgot that one. Remember when TD said fuck the league over the dress code? How about when Jack brought the Spurs back in Game 6 of the '03 WCF or was hitting those 3s in Game 6 of the '03 Finals?

Leetonidas
02-23-2006, 11:58 PM
Valid points.

Remember when Horry threw a towel at his coach's face?

:lol

Leetonidas
02-24-2006, 12:00 AM
Man, I forgot that one. Remember when TD said fuck the league over the dress code? How about when Jack brought the Spurs back in Game 6 of the '03 WCF or was hitting those 3s in Game 6 of the '03 Finals?

Remember when Tim tackled Jack Nies and threw him on the ground? :lol

Brodels
02-24-2006, 12:01 AM
I forgot about Horry. Lol...

But seriously, what about Ron Mercer?

Peter
02-24-2006, 12:02 AM
Since Jack beat up some fans at The Palace, do we have to give back the '03 title?

ChumpDumper
02-24-2006, 12:07 AM
I would've tried to get on the tail end of the "mega" trade and get Brian Skinner from Portland for Barry.