Charlotte 74, Phoenix 68 AT HALFTIME

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Charlotte
Name Min FG 3Pt FT Off Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF Pts
G. Wallace 14 3-8 0-0 1-1 2 6 2 2 0 0 3 7
J. Jones 18 6-8 4-4 0-0 0 4 3 0 0 0 0 16
P. Brezec 13 4-8 0-0 4-4 2 6 0 0 0 0 1 12
R. Felton 20 7-12 1-2 1-1 0 1 2 2 0 0 2 16
M. Carroll 20 6-8 2-2 1-1 1 4 0 1 2 0 2 15
B. Knight 11 1-5 0-0 0-0 0 1 8 0 2 0 1 2
B. Robinson 4 0-1 0-0 2-2 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 2
K. Rush 9 2-6 0-2 0-0 0 2 0 0 1 1 1 4
K. Burleson 1 0-0 0-0 0-0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0
Totals 110 29-56 7-10 9-9 5 25 15 5 5 1 12 74
Percentages: .518 .700 1.000 Team Rebounds: 2
Phoenix
Name Min FG 3Pt FT Off Reb Ast TO Stl Blk PF Pts
R. Bell 20 6-10 1-3 0-0 1 2 1 1 0 0 1 13
S. Marion 22 7-10 2-3 4-5 4 13 2 1 0 1 1 20
B. Diaw 14 2-4 0-0 2-2 2 4 2 0 0 0 3 6
L. Barbosa 18 2-5 0-1 2-2 0 2 2 1 1 0 1 6
S. Nash 16 5-9 2-3 4-4 0 2 4 4 0 0 0 16
E. House 8 1-3 1-2 0-0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 3
J. Jones 11 0-5 0-1 2-2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2
P. Burke 5 1-4 0-0 0-0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 2
Totals 114 24-50 6-13 14-15 7 25 11 8 2 1 8 68
Percentages: .480 .462 .933 Team Rebounds: 2
Game Info
Technical Fouls: None
Officials: Michael Smith, Monty Mccutchen, Steve Javie

[JMarkJohns]

They aren't missing a shot from downtown. 7-10. Carroll hit one falling out of bounds and Jones nailed a 26-foot turnaround "jumper".

Suns will be without Thomas for 4-8 weeks due to a stress fracture in his foot.

Bad loss their.

Amare could be back within two weeks, but the Suns can't win vs. San Antonio or Dallas without Thomas and Stoudemire.

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Amare Is Back In 2 Weeks Wow

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If Thomas Can Not Play For 8 Weeks Amare Should Just Sit Out Tell Next Year

[JMarkJohns]

If Amare thinks he can go, then he should give it a shot. Right now, if Thomas only misses 5-6 weeks, then he could be back for the playoffs. He can't run, but with his boot (after a few weeks) he can stand and shoot jumpers to keep his range.

If Amare doesn't feel comfortable, then yeah, shut things down.

Grant is due back in March as well, but the Suns can't count on him.

[JMarkJohns]

Felton has hit two dribble, dribble, dribble pull up 25+ threes in a row. Both with a hand in his face. The TV commentators are saying he should get whiplash more often.

Serisouly, he's unconsious. 11-17 field, 4-5 range.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Amare in two weeks = ruined career

[JMarkJohns]

He's been out from surgery for over the four month prognosis. In two weeks it will have been over five months. Remember, his case was a minor procedure in a non-load-bearing area of cartilage.

It's a risk, to be sure, but Amare has said he'll return only in his time. He's not going to sacrafice the future on the altar of the immediate. If Amare says he's ready to go, I'll trust him.

Who knows, but an injury can and will occur any time, whether in be this season or next.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

He's gonna be Vince Carter

[JMarkJohns]

Lmao

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Amare Said He Would Not Come Back Unless He Was 100%

[JMarkJohns]

Correction. He said better than last year and at 110%.

[FreshPrince22]

Marion already with a 30/20 with over 8 minutes to go. Wow...

[SequSpur]

February

[JMarkJohns]

February

True, but it's very close to March :)

[dimsah]

True, but it's very close to March :)
and yet so far from June:fro

[JMarkJohns]

and yet so far from June:fro

So then why the hell was the date brought in? :blah

[dimsah]

So then why the hell was the date brought in? :blah
lighten up man. I'm just messin with ya.

[JMarkJohns]

Who said I wasn't messin' with ya first? :D

I know the Suns aren't winning this year. I'm a realist. I'm just here for the hell of it!

[dimsah]

One of these teams is going to get 100 shots from the floor. Unbelievable!

[JMarkJohns]

Field
Charlotte: 49-100
Phoenix: 48-96
3-Point
Charlotte: 11-20
Phoenix: 10-26
Free Throw
Charlotte: 12-15
Phoenix: 30-32

Marion finishes with 31 points, 24 rebounds... 75 points, 39 rebounds in the last two games.

[Horry For 3!]

Marion 31 pts 24 rebs :lmao

[mavsfan1000]

Marion is a monster. He is the real MVP of the suns.

[JMarkJohns]

Marion is a monster. He is the real MVP of the suns.

I wouldn't go that far. When Nash doesn't play, the Suns offense doesn't click. Sometimes it survives, like tonight, but most times Nash is the one to carry.

[mavsfan1000]

Yeah true but Nash does get help. Nash didn't help Marion get 24 rebounds unless effort has to do with scoring. Dampier is an example of a player who needs to score to put out the effort on the boards.

[Pistonfan1]

Marion is a monster. He is the real MVP of the suns.

Yeah I guess that other guy who dominated the Mavs in the playoffs last year and running a team who is the 3rd seed without their dominant big man and dealing with 4-5 new players is a good role player and not a superstar :rolleyes .

[JMarkJohns]

Yeah true but Nash does get help. Nash didn't help Marion get 24 rebounds unless effort has to do with scoring. Dampier is an example of a player who needs to score to put out the effort on the boards.

OK then...

Nash = Offensive MVP
Marion = Defensive MVP

What are the Suns known for?

[mavsfan1000]

Yeah so all those extra offensive rebounds and scoring opportunities without a play was done by Nash? Marion is the man and Nash is good to but not the MVP of the league.

[JMarkJohns]

My guess is that we'll have to agree to disagree.

Ya know, they were originally traded for each other (Nash for the #9 in '99).

Funny, Ironic, whatever...

Marion is the man. He's one of my favorite Suns all time. He's not their MVP, however.

[Pistonfan1]

Yeah so all those extra offensive rebounds and scoring opportunities without a play was done by Nash? Marion is the man and Nash is good to but not the MVP of the league.

Not good enough to be MVP????? :lol If you take Nash away from this team they dont even win 30 games. Marion is a damn good player but Nash runs that team. Marion helps with the boards and the scoring but Nash distributes the ball with his driving and dishing. I know he is an ex-mav and that he sent you guys on a fishing trip but saying Nash isnt superstar/MVP material is just pure hate. He is the best PG in the game and my vote to win the MVP again.

[mavsfan1000]

I guess I could say the same thing about Josh Howard. Dirk might put up the most impressing stats but Howard does all the little things to make Dirk and the rest of the team better.

[mavsfan1000]

Not good enough to be MVP????? :lol If you take Nash away from this team they dont even win 30 games. Marion is a damn good player but Nash runs that team. Marion helps with the boards and the scoring but Nash distributes the ball with his driving and dishing. I know he is an ex-mav and that he sent you guys on a fishing trip but saying Nash isnt superstar/MVP material is just pure hate. He is the best PG in the game and my vote to win the MVP again.
He doesn't play defense. Marion makes up for his weaknesses. Of course you are too stupid to see that. You got your head up your ass and see things only one way. The fact is Marion is just as important to the suns as Nash.

[leemajors]

He doesn't play defense. Marion makes up for his weaknesses. Of course you are too stupid to see that. You got your head up your ass and see things only one way. The fact is Marion is just as important to the suns as Nash.

spurs showed that when bowen severely limited his production in wcf last year. i dunno if he is as important, but he is vital to their success.

[mavsfan1000]

Shut down Marion's production and the suns are weak. The spurs were smart in putting Bowen on Marion and put Duncan on Q. The mavs should've put Howard on Marion and Dirk on Q but I guess Avery is inexperienced.

[T Park]

The mavs should've put Howard on Marion and Dirk on Q but I guess Avery is inexperienced.

No, its called having no confidence in a zero defense team.

[mavsfan1000]

Dude I gave you stats of the mavs defense. It isn't great but it isn't "zero defense team" like you said. The mavs are even better this year on defense and that alone should be a threat to your teams chances of advancing.

[Warlord23]

Wow, can't believe there are still peeps who underrate Nash's importance to the Suns. Last year these people claimed that Amare was the real MVP of the Suns; this year they're anointing Marion?? LMAO!

Consider the facts for a while: in 2002-03, Marion, Amare, Joe Johnson and Marbury played the entire season (no injuries), and the Suns won 44 games and the 8th seed.

2003-04: Marion and JJ were mostly healthy (79 and 82 games respectively), but Amare missed 27 games and Marbury missed 48 games. The result: the Suns stumbled to a mere 29 wins.

2004-05: Nash and Q join the team. Compared to the team of 2 years ago, basically Nash and Q replace Marbury and Penny (who was still a serviceable 10 ppg scorer). The team goes from 44 games to 62 and the 1st seed. You think Marion was the difference-maker? Not a chance. And the people who claimed that Amare's improvement was the sole difference-maker can go ahead and explain how the Suns are on pace to win 56 games without Amare. Or is it because of the "improvement" of Boris Diaw? :lol. Bottomline: Marbury/Marion/Amare/JJ = 44 wins, while Nash/Marion/Diaw/Bell = on pace for 56.

Sure, one can spin a story full of coincidental happenings such as Amare's rapid intrinsic improvement (i.e. no help from Nash), and Diaw's miraculous improvement, and Q-Rich having one extraordinary year before tanking for the Knicks etc etc. The much more plausible explanation is that Nash is really the difference-maker, and has made the game so much easier for teammates by putting them in easy positions to score.

Marion, Diaw, Bell are all having career years with Nash. Q had his only decent year with Nash. Amare made a gigantic leap when Nash arrived on the scene. Coincidence? I think not. Nash is far and away the mvp of the league this year; same as last year.

[Pistonfan1]

Wow, can't believe there are still peeps who underrate Nash's importance to the Suns. Last year these people claimed that Amare was the real MVP of the Suns; this year they're anointing Marion?? LMAO!

Consider the facts for a while: in 2002-03, Marion, Amare, Joe Johnson and Marbury played the entire season (no injuries), and the Suns won 44 games and the 8th seed.

2003-04: Marion and JJ were mostly healthy (79 and 82 games respectively), but Amare missed 27 games and Marbury missed 48 games. The result: the Suns stumbled to a mere 29 wins.

2004-05: Nash and Q join the team. Compared to the team of 2 years ago, basically Nash and Q replace Marbury and Penny (who was still a serviceable 10 ppg scorer). The team goes from 44 games to 62 and the 1st seed. You think Marion was the difference-maker? Not a chance. And the people who claimed that Amare's improvement was the sole difference-maker can go ahead and explain how the Suns are on pace to win 56 games without Amare. Or is it because of the "improvement" of Boris Diaw? :lol. Bottomline: Marbury/Marion/Amare/JJ = 44 wins, while Nash/Marion/Diaw/Bell = on pace for 56.

Sure, one can spin a story full of coincidental happenings such as Amare's rapid intrinsic improvement (i.e. no help from Nash), and Diaw's miraculous improvement, and Q-Rich having one extraordinary year before tanking for the Knicks etc etc. The much more plausible explanation is that Nash is really the difference-maker, and has made the game so much easier for teammates by putting them in easy positions to score.

Marion, Diaw, Bell are all having career years with Nash. Q had his only decent year with Nash. Amare made a gigantic leap when Nash arrived on the scene. Coincidence? I think not. Nash is far and away the mvp of the league this year; same as last year.


:tu Thank you. But it should not be a shocker that Mav fans will disagree with that because Nash is a former Mav who torched them last May. It is okay to hate the guy for proving himself as a legit elite superstar in this league especially after he left your team and was the reason your team didnt advance a year ago.

[mavsfan1000]

Take Marion out of the suns lineup and all the suns are is jump shooting, no defense, no offensive rebounding, no energy players, and etc. I think people are underestimating Marion's importance. The suns would be crap with either player out but when they are both playing than the suns are good.

[ALVAREZ6]

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