Pistons Vs Lakers

[spursparker9]

:elephant go kobe! beat the pistons

[Banks91]

nope, dont want that at all. Need the lakers to lose as much as possible so houston can sneak into the playoffs.

[1Parker1]

nope, dont want that at all. Need the lakers to lose as much as possible so houston can sneak into the playoffs.

That's crazy, who would you rather have Homecourt advantage against...Dallas or the Pistons in the Finals?

[spursparker9]

det 19 , lakers 14

[mavsfan1000]

The lakers will get owned.

[1Parker1]

Lakers do suck....

[sanman53]

Think the Pistons will play their bench some tonight? Or think their starters play their usual minutes?

[spursparker9]

kobe is very quiet with 5 points....
kobe, please explode and beat the pistons.... ^_^

[mavsfan1000]

Prince owns Kobe. It is a fact.

[spursparker9]

rasheed already scored 12pts

[spursparker9]

kobe can will to victory!!!

[1Parker1]

Prince owns Kobe. It is a fact.

You mean like Diop owns Duncan? :angel

[Brutalis]

You mean like Diop owns Duncan? :angel
owned.

[spursparker9]

kobe with 13pts in the 1st quarter

[1Parker1]

Prince owns Kobe. It is a fact.

:lol Nice job jinxing him by the way. Kobe goes on to score 10 straight points :)

[Sec24Row7]

Prince owns kobe like Al Gore invented the Internet

[1Parker1]

It's like the Lakers become non-existent when Kobe is on the bench.

[spursparker9]

dammit, kobe is in foul trouble

[1Parker1]

Holy Shit, Billups is insane....he's raining 3's...

Lamar Odom is having a good game though...too bad the rest of the team sucks and Kobe is in foul trouble.

[Rummpd]

Go LAKERS - can't believe I just said that! They are not intimidated by the Pistons.

[missmyzte]

dammit, kobe is in foul trouble
Foul trouble? He only has 3 fouls ...

Lakers are up 86-78 with 9:24 left in the game

Go Lakers Go!!!!!!

[1Parker1]

:elephant Please don't screw up this lead Lakers!

[ShoogarBear]

Lakers have just scored 18 straight. Up by 8 with about 9:00 left.

[Warlord23]

18-0 run by the Lakers .. most of that with Kobe on the bench.

Odom is putting on a show .. 21 pts/9 ast/4 rbs .. 8-13 shooting

[ShoogarBear]

Lamar Odom is just going off. 21 points and 9 assists.

[timvp]

Prince is the player who misses Larry Brown the most. LB ran a whole lot of plays for him and took advantage of his size. Flip has turned him into a jumpshooter.

[orhe]

lamar odom O_O O_O

[1Parker1]

Great, Lakers screwing up the lead...

[timvp]

Pistons win this one by 10+

[1Parker1]

Pistons win this one by 10+


:lol That's what I was thinking...

[missmyzte]

Great, Lakers screwing up the lead...
They always do, you stopped being surprised after a while

[orhe]

nah i say lakers win this one :)
i'm a big odom fan hehe

[Pinto Bean]

Whats the score

[1Parker1]

They always do, you stopped being surprised after a while


aww, Kobe's not looking so good in the 4ths o far, aside from that dunk. Maybe Odom can save you guys.

[1Parker1]

85-92 Lakers

[Pinto Bean]

Go Lakers

[circles_eternal]

goo lakers! 94-89 LA

[missmyzte]

aww, Kobe's not looking so good in the 4ths o far, aside from that dunk. Maybe Odom can save you guys.
Kobe has a sinus infection that moved into his chest, plus this is the 2nd game on a back-to-back and he scored 42 points last night (while being sick).
The rest of the guys need to step up, like Lamar is doing.

[Nocioni]

Noooooooooooooooo

[Horry For 3!]

Odom has 5 fouls

[Pinto Bean]

Never thought id want LA to win >.>

[FreshPrince22]

Tayshaun had better have a broken leg. Dude has been absolutely awful the last 2-3 months. He's costing us games now.

[efrem1]

Hopefully the Pistons wore out the Fakers tonight for SA to take them down.

[Warlord23]

Pistons have allowed Lakers to shoot .520 today :wtf

[Rummpd]

Pistons look mortal on this road trip - escaped last night will they tonight - lets hope not!

[1Parker1]

Pistons take waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too many 3's.

[Pinto Bean]

Would be nice if Ben Wallace elbowed Kobe in the nose and broke it. Maybe then we wouldnt have to worry about a Kobe 50 point game

[missmyzte]

Hopefully the Pistons wore out the Fakers tonight for SA to take them down.
Do the Spurs need the Lakers to be worn down in order to win?

[missmyzte]

Would be nice if Ben Wallace elbowed Kobe in the nose and broke it. Maybe then we wouldnt have to worry about a Kobe 50 point game
Wow, that's pure class right there.

</sarcasm>

[Tanya]

Wow Lakers are playing TEAM BASKETBALL tonight?
Unbelievable!!! Wow~~

[FreshPrince22]

ballgame

[timvp]

Tayshaun had better have a broken leg. Dude has been absolutely awful the last 2-3 months. He's costing us games now.

If Flip would run a play for him at least once a week, I think you'd see improved results.

[spursparker9]

lakers please win...

[reader]

Do you think the Pistons starting 5 has been playing too many minutes. I know none of them have missed a game.

[1Parker1]

GO LAKERS! :elephant 92-100 56 seconds left.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Would be nice if Ben Wallace elbowed Kobe in the nose and broke it. Maybe then we wouldnt have to worry about a Kobe 50 point game
:rolleyes

[thekingrobert]

i hate cheering for the lakers but when they are playing pistons i will cheer loud and gladly do it 8 point game 56 secs, GO FAKERS GO

[Solid D]

The Spurs are pulling for the Lakers but studying what they do. The Lakers will have it in their heads to pull off the double thrill against the top shelf Monday night.

[efrem1]

The Spurs are pulling for the Lakers but studying what they do. The Lakers will have it in their heads to pull off the double thrill against top shelf.

Agreed.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Oh well...looks like another loss.

Tonights difference was Odoms stellar performance, and Tay's not so stellar job.

Good job Lakers.

[missmyzte]

Fans are chanting MVP! MVP! MVP!

102-92 with 45.5 seconds left

Lakers are gonna win!

[Horry For 3!]

Lakers up by 10 pts now with 45.5 secs left

[spursparker9]

detroit won't get 70wins afterall

[ShoogarBear]

Odom is hardly Mr. Consisitency, but the Lakers are tough when he plays like this.

[thekingrobert]

shhhh pistons, yup its the spurs knocking at your door

[timvp]

Fans are chanting MVP! MVP! MVP!

102-92 with 45.5 seconds left

Lakers are gonna win!

Lamar Odom has had a good year but not that good. :)

[Horry For 3!]

Pistons 48-11
Spurs 46-12

[Rummpd]

Pistons are mortal. The race is on for the best record and history favors the Spurs with their fast finishes if Duncan condition does not worsen!

[mavsfan1000]

The Spurs are now the best team in the league. I'll admit it.

[Kori Ellis]

So the Pistons lost to Denver, then almost lost to the lowly Sonics, then lost to the Lakers.

Are there problems?

[missmyzte]

Lamar Odom has had a good year but not that good. :)
Silly, Kobe is the MVP! :lol

[Spurologist]

detroit won't get 70wins afterall

that was out of the question weeks ago.

[FreshPrince22]

Now they're making it look like a blowout by fouling and shooting quick bricks.

[Tanya]

This road trip finally ends. The pistons will have three days off, get some rest and please watch tapes and find out that's happening with this team.

[timvp]

So the Pistons lost to Denver, then almost lost to the lowly Sonics, then lost to the Lakers.

Are there problems?

Prince isn't involved offensively. That has led to some forced shots and a decline in defense.

[Horry For 3!]

Lakers won by 11

[1Parker1]

Odom is hardly Mr. Consisitency, but the Lakers are tough when he plays like this.


Exactly. As great as Kobe is, you know he's going to get his. But when Odom's game is on...he usually has a great all-around game, with not just the points, but also the rebounding and assists.

BTW, is this stat really true: Billups 4-12 from 3point land. He really attempted 12 three pointers?! :wow

[Horry For 3!]

Spurs 1.5 games back from Pistons

[hussker]

Silly, Kobe is the MVP! :lol

MVP =
MOUNTAIN
VAGINAL
PROBE

[1Parker1]

Prince isn't involved offensively. That has led to some forced shots and a decline in defense.

I read a quote by him recently where he flat out said that it's hard for the rest of the team to get their offense going when Billups and Hamilton dominate the ball so much. Sounded like there was some friction going on there....

[timvp]

Odom is hardly Mr. Consisitency, but the Lakers are tough when he plays like this.

Hopefully Odom gets traded in the offseason. He's a fun player to watch ... but his game doesn't mesh well with Kobe.

[missmyzte]

MVP =
MOUNTAIN
VAGINAL
PROBE

Kobe just led the Lakers to back-to-back wins scoring 42 points one night and 40 points the next night, one of the opposing teams being the team with the best record in the NBA ...
and he did it while having a sinus infection, he's sick as a dog.

That's an MVP

[infinite styles]

My night is complete now with Duncan going for 22, UNC beating Duke and a Pistons L.

But on the real looks like all those minutes the starters are playing for Det. is starting to catch up.

[hussker]

Kobe just led the Lakers to back-to-back wins scoring 42 points one night and 40 points the next night, one of the opposing teams being the team with the best record in the NBA ...
and he did it while having a sinus infection, he's sick as a dog.

That's an MVP


Kobe raped a girl in Colorado,

THAT is an MVP!

[timvp]

I read a quote by him recently where he flat out said that it's hard for the rest of the team to get their offense going when Billups and Hamilton dominate the ball so much. Sounded like there was some friction going on there....

Well Flip runs about 75% of the set plays for Hamilton. The Pistons had a killer play under LB where Prince would set a low screen and then postup right around the basket.

I haven't seen them run that play once this year.

[Spurologist]

So the Pistons lost to Denver, then almost lost to the lowly Sonics, then lost to the Lakers.

Are there problems?

Flip's freestyle offense looks to be backfiring right now. They seem to be taking too many jump shots as someone mentioned especially 3s. Sheed rarely goes inside. I don't think I have seen hamilton drive for a layup. Billups is in love with pullup/dribble 3. Prince is just free lancing out there. Big Ben is probably the only one attacking the basket.

When those jump shots aren't falling and they keep taking them, you are going to lost more often than not.

[myhc]

can someone please explain to me how the Pistons can be 3rd in points per game allowed at 89.2 but be more middle of the pack in opponent FG% allowed at 44.5%?

[Solid D]

It gets tiring on the road. The Lakers play well enough defensively to beat anybody on a given night. The Pistons just didn't have it in the 4th qtr. and keeping up with Kobe isn't easy to do even when you're rested.

Spurs fans shouldn't get all giddy and stuff. The Spurs got next against a confident team, now.

[Spurologist]

Kobe raped a girl in Colorado,

THAT is an MVP!

please pull your head out of your ass and make an actual arguement why kobe isn't the MVP. How about Steve Nash is playing better.

[infinite styles]

can someone please explain to me how the Pistons can be 3rd in points per game allowed at 89.2 but be more middle of the pack in opponent FG% allowed at 44.5%?

Efficient offense will equal less shots for the opponent. Therefore creating lower scoring.

[missmyzte]

Kobe raped a girl in Colorado,

THAT is an MVP!
Really? Show me the jury verdict. Unless you were in the room with them .....

[cs100]

Flip's freestyle offense looks to be backfiring right now. They seem to be taking too many jump shots as someone mentioned especially 3s. Sheed rarely goes inside. I don't think I have seen hamilton drive for a layup. Billups is in love with pullup/dribble 3. Prince is just free lancing out there. Big Ben is probably the only one attacking the basket.

When those jump shots aren't falling and they keep taking them, you are going to lost more often than not.


Exactly. I think this is a good example of Flip not being able to make adjustments during a game like Pop can. Ben had a bad rebounding game by only getting 5 rebounds. But yes, the Pistons take way too many jumpers. I've heard the argument from Piston fans that even though they take alot of jumpers, they tighten up their defense when the game is close. Well it didn't work this time.

Pistons are mortal after all.

[1Parker1]

can someone please explain to me how the Pistons can be 3rd in points per game allowed at 89.2 but be more middle of the pack in opponent FG% allowed at 44.5%?


I believe they lead the league in PPG at about 102 and also they lead the league in point differential at around 8.2 per game.

[hussker]

please pull your head out of your ass and make an actual arguement why kobe isn't the MVP. How about Steve Nash is playing better.


Please go up a few posts...before chastising...

Arigato

(Why is this in the SAS forum and not the NBA forum anyway?)

[Warlord23]

It gets tiring on the road. The Lakers play well enough defensively to beat anybody on a given night. The Pistons just didn't have it in the 4th qtr. and keeping up with Kobe isn't easy to do even when you're rested.

Spurs fans shouldn't get all giddy and stuff. The Spurs got next against a confident team, now.

True. Especially since Duncan is not back to normal and Kwame Brown is supposedly making an impact with his man defense in the low post. Our guard penetration and outside shooting will be key. And Bowen will have to do a number on Kobe.

[timvp]

(Why is this in the SAS forum and not the NBA forum anyway?)

Cuz Spurs be chasing da 'stons.

[Rummpd]

"This road trip finally ends. The pistons will have three days off, get some rest and please watch tapes and find out that's happening with this team."


It is called coming back to earth - the Pistons are still a formidable team but were never as fearsome as the media or many made them out to be.

They are the same team as last year, with a coach who still has proved nothing.

Respect the Pistons highly yes - fear them no, if Spurs health same or better, and especially if they get home court advantage - no worries it would be a great series that could go either way but my money remains on the Spurs.

[Mr. Body]

The amount of threes they shot (20 between R. Wallace and Billips) had to do with fatigue. Long road trip. Back to back. Their lack of bench will hurt in the long run.

[missmyzte]

Arigato
Do Itashimashite .... Totemo baka :rolleyes

[last_train]

flip saunders showed before that he couldn't give the necessary intensity for the championship to his team. that was the main reason behind minnesota's first-round failures. and this year when the play-off time when the tough ones succeed comes, i'm sure saunders and detroit will fail again.
and today i saw that derek anderson joined miami's rotation and contributed to the victory against atlanta. now miami's second five is payton - d. anderson - s. anderson - walker - mourning. i think miami will be a more dangerous opponent for us at the playoffs.

[reader]

can someone please explain to me how the Pistons can be 3rd in points per game allowed at 89.2 but be more middle of the pack in opponent FG% allowed at 44.5%?

Pace of the game, they have fewer possessions, but are allowing an average number at the F/G % rate.

Pace of game factors in for Phoenix, they allow 100 some such points, but their opponents 44.3 F/G % is a bit better than Detroit.

[Marklar MM]

flip saunders showed before that he couldn't give the necessary intensity for the championship to his team. that was the main reason behind minnesota's first-round failures. and this year when the play-off time when the tough ones succeed comes, i'm sure saunders and detroit will fail again.
and today i saw that derek anderson joined miami's rotation and contributed to the victory against atlanta. now miami's second five is payton - d. anderson - s. anderson - walker - mourning. i think miami will be a more dangerous opponent for us at the playoffs.


:king

[Solid D]

Really? Show me the jury verdict. Unless you were in the room with them .....

Hussker...that's pretty unforgiving for a guy from Nebraska. :lol

Nebraska football coach Tom Osborne suspended defensive star Christian Peter for just one exhibition game after he was twice accused of rape, once convicted and several more times accused of sexual assault, and, also, of "disturbing the peace, trespassing, urinating in public, refusing to comply with the order of a policeman, threatening to kill a parking attendant, and possessing alcoholic beverages while under the age of 21.

Now let's talk about Lawrence Phillips, a superstar running back to whom Osborne gave second, third and fourth chances, despite his no contest plea to tossing his girlfriend down a stairwell, in addition to numerous other accusations of assault, sexual and otherwise. Since he's left Nebraska, the guy's life has been one long arrest record.

Pot meet Kettle. :lol

[Amuseddaysleeper]

1) We're actually 2.5 games if you consider that the spurs dont have the tie breaker vs pistons, so in terms of the standings we have to look at it that way cuz tying the pistons in the W-L department wont get us hca

2) The pistons are struggling in rebounding massively. the toughness inside they once had is all but gone. i'm really confused at the way they're playing. the defense has slipped and they arent hustling on the boards like they used to. I'm sure they'll use the 3 days to clear their heads and come back firing on chicago


its nice to see that the spurs at least have a slight chance of getting hca in the playoffs now though there are still a decent amount of games to go! :spin

[Leetonidas]

48-11, 46-12. :)

[Brutalis]

Hats off to the Lakekobeshow. I hate them with passion but damn if I wasn't rooting for them tonight.

Thanks, Los Angeles Kobes.

[infinite styles]

Seems like with the amount of threes that the Pistons shoot they consequently negate one of their biggest assets in offensive rebounding. Long shots usually turn into long rebounds and with Wallace mainly inside the lane on most possessions that eliminates his toughness on the offensive glass.

[Leetonidas]

If the Spurs played the Pistons right now, who would win?

(Not really right now, let's say Tuesday)

[mikejones99]

Home team is favored by 3.5

[Amuseddaysleeper]

If the Spurs played the Pistons right now, who would win?

(Not really right now, let's say Tuesday)

Pistons, as "mediocre" as they are playing right now, a hobbled TD and a semi hurting manu isn't gonna come close to beating detroit right now. detroit seems to be playin down to the competition lately like the spurs do as well sometimes but detroit will get up for the spurs more so than anyone else, which is why as long as td isn't 100% as well as manu we're gonna have a long uphill especially without hca if we play detroit in the finals

[JamStone]

Pistons sucked in the second half. Just a really poor performance in that second half.

Bad loss, but forget it, move on, get ready for Chicago Tuesday.

[SequSpur]

Fuck the Pistons.

What happened to the 70 win season?

Same ol Flippy shit.

[Brutalis]

The way Detroit is playing lately doesn't match half the intensity SA and DAL is playing with at all. So a game between the two wouldn't be close really.

[Brutalis]

Fuck the Pistons.

What happened to the 70 win season?

Same ol Flippy shit.
I really hope Pistons fans wait to see what happens before they open their mouth about Flip considering San Antonio has seen this guy for years and years. They have no idea ... it's make or break with this guy.

[FreshPrince22]

The way Detroit is playing lately doesn't match half the intensity SA and DAL is playing with at all. So a game between the two wouldn't be close really.

Even though I think the Pistons would "Get up" for the Spurs, I agree. If the Pistons went into the game like it was just another game they would get their asses handed to them. They just don't seem to care right now. :sleep

[hussker]

Hussker...that's pretty unforgiving for a guy from Nebraska. :lol

Nebraska football coach Tom Osborne suspended defensive star Christian Peter for just one exhibition game after he was twice accused of rape, once convicted and several more times accused of sexual assault, and, also, of "disturbing the peace, trespassing, urinating in public, refusing to comply with the order of a policeman, threatening to kill a parking attendant, and possessing alcoholic beverages while under the age of 21.

Now let's talk about Lawrence Phillips, a superstar running back to whom Osborne gave second, third and fourth chances, despite his no contest plea to tossing his girlfriend down a stairwell, in addition to numerous other accusations of assault, sexual and otherwise. Since he's left Nebraska, the guy's life has been one long arrest record.

Pot meet Kettle. :lol

1) NAH, not really...this is a thread where someone calls out MVP in NBA, nothing at all to do with College Football...by the wat, those guys were all punished and rightfully so, but that should likely be in the College Sports Forum.

2) As far as reference to verdicts, you are right...

And OJ didn't kill his ex-wife either...lala land...gotta love it...

and all you LAKER apologists too...sweet!!!

[Brutalis]

Even though I think the Pistons would "Get up" for the Spurs, I agree. If the Pistons went into the game like it was just another game they would get their asses handed to them. They just don't seem to care right now. :sleep

That's how we all felt about the games vrs. Detroit in early season. We don't "get up" for games, we keep one level of concentration and go with it but those games were fucking pathetic. It was like we didn't even care to win moreless even want to keep it close. We had zero care in the world at the time and right now seems like the 100% oppisite.

As all Spurs fans know, first half of the season Spurs are one team, the Feb or March after is another. Every stinkin year.

[SequSpur]

Even though I think the Pistons would "Get up" for the Spurs, I agree. If the Pistons went into the game like it was just another game they would get their asses handed to them. They just don't seem to care right now. :sleep

yeah.. thats a good argument.

the spurs have dropped 8 games to the Eastern Conference, so point well taken.

[JamStone]

The way Detroit is playing lately doesn't match half the intensity SA and DAL is playing with at all. So a game between the two wouldn't be close really.


Last three Spurs road games:

2/24 v. Memphis 83-80 win
2/15 v. Philadelphia 100-103 loss
2/13 v. Cleveland 87-101 loss

[Brutalis]

Last three Spurs road games:

2/24 v. Memphis 83-80 win
2/15 v. Philadelphia 100-103 loss
2/13 v. Cleveland 87-101 loss

You sir, are one ignorant puppy.

[JamStone]

You sir, are one ignorant puppy.

Care to explain?

[Brutalis]

Where the fuck was your point kid? There wasn't one.

You're either jealous of the typical Spurs onslaught in the 2nd half of the season.
...trying to get yourself owned by several posters
... no telling.

Your point was what? SA isn't playing the best basketball in the NBA right now?

Drugs are bad.

[Leetonidas]

Last three Spurs road games:

2/24 v. Memphis 83-80 win
2/15 v. Philadelphia 100-103 loss
2/13 v. Cleveland 87-101 loss

And the Spurs are 10-2 and their last 12 road games.

[JamStone]

I'm sorry you couldn't get my point, and I have to spell it out for you. Road games in the NBA are not easy to win. The Pistons are not playing great basketball right now, but the last two losses were on the road against Western Conference playoff teams. The Spurs lost two of their last three road games. My point ... even for the elite teams in the league, road games are hard to win in the NBA. How much intensity are the Spurs playing with when they get blown out by a Cleveland Cavalier team?

There is my point.

I do not do drugs. I don't even drink alcohol anymore. I stay sober. You stay a bitter person for whatever reason. Do you have to always be so confrontational and angry? How bad do you need a hug?

What posters are going to "own" me? And, am I supposed to be scared or ashamed if I get "owned" anonymously on an internet messageboard? Your act is pretty tired.

[Brutalis]

Lost 2 of the last 3 on the Rodeo Road trip. Let's see the Suns go 10-2 in that span or better.... yeah right.

Bitter? Yes. Over gay ass stupid comments by some ignorant poster I stay bitter.

Position: Volatile Forward

Refer to TexasBalla as the 2nd one to own you.

EzPz

[JamStone]

Your point was what? SA isn't playing the best basketball in the NBA right now?



Actually my point was to disagree with your statement: "The way Detroit is playing lately doesn't match half the intensity SA and DAL is playing with at all. So a game between the two wouldn't be close really."

Seeing, how even though the Spurs are 10-2 in their last 12 road games, those TWO LOSSES occurred in their last three road games, are they really playing the "best basketball in the NBA right now?

Miami and Phoenix are both 9-1 in their last 10 games, respectively. I could argue they are both playing better basketball than the Spurs. But, that's not my point.

And, how is telling me that the Spurs are 10-2 in their last 12 games "owning" me when it doesn't refute the fact that they loss 2 of their last 3 road games? It doesn't change that fact. You're seriously dense.

[cs100]

Lost 2 of the last 3 on the Rodeo Road trip. Let's see the Suns go 10-2 in that span or better.... yeah right.

Bitter? Yes. Over gay ass stupid comments by some ignorant poster I stay bitter.

Position: Volatile Forward

Refer to TexasBalla as the 2nd one to own you.

EzPz


Why are you so hateful? The posters were just stating facts of our losses. This is basketball. There really is no need for namecalling.

Sorry, this is just my opinion. Take it or leave it. Your choice.

[Brutalis]

Oh shut the fuck up and come back when you decide to make sense of things.

Answer: Don't open your mouth and revert to other means of some point you never made to begin with.

[Brutalis]

Why are you so hateful? The posters were just stating facts of our losses. This is basketball. There really is no need for namecalling.

Sorry, this is just my opinion. Take it or leave it. Your choice.
:) It's okay. Me and him have done this several times before.

[Leetonidas]

Actually my point was to disagree with your statement: "The way Detroit is playing lately doesn't match half the intensity SA and DAL is playing with at all. So a game between the two wouldn't be close really."

Seeing, how even though the Spurs are 10-2 in their last 12 road games, those TWO LOSSES occurred in their last three road games, are they really playing the "best basketball in the NBA right now?

Miami and Phoenix are both 9-1 in their last 10 games, respectively. I could argue they are both playing better basketball than the Spurs. But, that's not my point.

And, how is telling me that the Spurs are 10-2 in their last 12 games "owning" me when it doesn't refute the fact that they loss 2 of their last 3 road games? It doesn't change that fact. You're seriously dense.

Are Miami and Phoenix 9-1 in their last 10 road games? (That's a serious question)

[Brutalis]

:lmao

[JamStone]

Are Miami and Phoenix 9-1 in their last 10 road games? (That's a serious question)


No. Last 10 games overall. Not specifically last 10 ROAD games.

[Leetonidas]

No. Last 10 games overall. Not specifically last 10 ROAD games.

I'm not trying to be an ass, but what was the whole point of your post before?

[Leetonidas]

Yeah winning on the road is hard, but I don't understand that because the Spurs lost two of three and 2 of 10 overall that proves it...I'm not following you.

[JamStone]

I'm not trying to be an ass, but what was the whole point of your post before?


Well, Brutalis made a comment that if the Pistons played the Spurs right now, it wouldn't even be a close game. My initial post was all based on Brutalis' post that the Spurs are playing so much better than the Pistons that it wouldn't even be close if the two teams played right now.

The Pistons just went on a three game road trip and lost two games ON THE ROAD. Brutalis was insisting that the Spurs are playing at a much better level than the Pistons that it wouldn't even be close. I just listed the Spurs' last three road games to compare to the last three Pistons road games, to show that it is not indicative of how good either team is.

Pistons are definitely not playing their best basketball right now. But, to see the two losses, against Denver and the Lakers, and then make a claim that Detroit couldn't even make a game close against San Antonio is just silly, to be frank. I listed the Spurs last three road games to make that point. Perhaps I should have spelled it out in the initial post.

[Tanya]

"This road trip finally ends. The pistons will have three days off, get some rest and please watch tapes and find out that's happening with this team."


It is called coming back to earth - the Pistons are still a formidable team but were never as fearsome as the media or many made them out to be.

They are the same team as last year, with a coach who still has proved nothing.

Respect the Pistons highly yes - fear them no, if Spurs health same or better, and especially if they get home court advantage - no worries it would be a great series that could go either way but my money remains on the Spurs.

I never thought the spurs should have fear when facing the pistons eventhough the pistons have blowned them out twice this year. The spurs are the best team. The pistons are close but they are not better than the spurs. That's why the HCA is so important this year. The pistons are overrated because they are not unbeatable. Now you really can see they are only humans and they play like shit when they are tired. Don't call that excuses. DAL only played two road games in the entire Feb. The pistons have been keep playing back to backs one set after another after the all star break, with no more than one day rest during those back to backs. It's a horrible Feb for them. I wish they can come out fresh after three day rests.

[TDMVPDPOY]

very dissapointed in the pistons, was hopin them to stomp the fakers, and then spurs have 2 upcomin games against them, wouldve pushed them fakers out of the playoff picture, and kome can kissed goodbye of this seasons mvp

[Sense]

The lakers will get owned.


Look at your credibility.

[mavsfan1000]

Well the Pistons are losing their credibility by performances like this. They better wake the fuck up.

[toosmallshoes]

Looks like Flip Saunders is bringing his usual "dominate in the regular season, underachieve in the postseason" mentality to Detroit. Can't wait for the playoffs to watch Detroit lose in the first round with Flip.

[aaronstampler]

flip saunders showed before that he couldn't give the necessary intensity for the championship to his team. that was the main reason behind minnesota's first-round failures. and this year when the play-off time when the tough ones succeed comes, i'm sure saunders and detroit will fail again.
and today i saw that derek anderson joined miami's rotation and contributed to the victory against atlanta. now miami's second five is payton - d. anderson - s. anderson - walker - mourning. i think miami will be a more dangerous opponent for us at the playoffs.


That's crazy talk. Nobody on Miami plays any D except their backup center. We can get any shot we want against them all day long. We gotta work for points against the Pistons. I think Detroit might sweep the Heat.

[aaronstampler]

Any discussion about who's the best team or who's playing the best from Mavs, Suns, or Heat fans is absurd. There are two contenders in the NBA, until further notice, the Spurs, and the Pistons, end of list.

The Spurs and the Pistons know they can beat any of those other three teams whenever they have to, without breaking too much of a sweat. They don't play defense. They don't have the will to do it for 48 minutes. They just don't.

[FreshPrince22]

Well the Pistons are losing their credibility by performances like this. They better wake the fuck up.

credibility to who? credibility is for teams that haven't won shit. Aka Mavs, Suns, Heat, etc.

[jochhejaam]

Well the Pistons are losing their credibility by performances like this. They better wake the fuck up.
That's a poor take mavsfan1000, view the following thread specifically post #4.


http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=36007

[leemajors]

Well the Pistons are losing their credibility by performances like this. They better wake the fuck up.

lakers played inspired ball, odom had 9+ assists, kobe had 40. they can beat anyone playing like that. pistons had a bad night closing down the lane, it happens.

[JamStone]

Even with his 40, Kobe wasn't the difference in the game. Kobe was still great, but he really didn't force too many shots. He was in foul trouble in the second and third quarter. And, the Lakers made their best run with Kobe on the bench. Lamar Odom and Smush Parker and believe it or not Kwame Brown's offensive rebounding while Kobe was being rested was the the main difference in the game.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Any discussion about who's the best team or who's playing the best from Mavs, Suns, or Heat fans is absurd. There are two contenders in the NBA, until further notice, the Spurs, and the Pistons, end of list.

The Spurs and the Pistons know they can beat any of those other three teams whenever they have to, without breaking too much of a sweat. They don't play defense. They don't have the will to do it for 48 minutes. They just don't.

That's right it all ends with The Spurs vs Pistons. The Pistons are worn out lots of back to backs most in the nba. They will get a few off days and come back strong on Wed I bet my V Bookie cash. :smokin

[picnroll]

Pistons, after the disappointment of the playoffs, came out of the gates with end of season/playoff intensity. Other teams came out of the gates with beginning of the season intensity. Now it's end of season and the other teams are moving it up a gear and the Pistons don't have a higher gear to go to. There still a top team but they're not head and shoulders above other top teams as it was pictured until the all-star break. They are on a par with the other two or three top teams who happen to all reside in the West.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

Pistons, after the disappointment of the playoffs, came out of the gates with end of season/playoff intensity. Other teams came out of the gates with beginning of the season intensity. Now it's end of season and the other teams are moving it up a gear and the Pistons don't have a higher gear to go to. There still a top team but they're not head and shoulders above other top teams as it was pictured until the all-star break. They are on a par with the other two or three top teams who happen to all reside in the West.

Trust me they are coasting a little right now they have another gear just like the spurs do.

[Leetonidas]

very dissapointed in the pistons, was hopin them to stomp the fakers, and then spurs have 2 upcomin games against them, wouldve pushed them fakers out of the playoff picture, and kome can kissed goodbye of this seasons mvp

Are you even a Spurs fan? You know we're only one game behind Detroit now, right?

[Marklar MM]

Are you even a Spurs fan? You know we're only one game behind Detroit now, right?


LOL. You are 2 1/2 games behind son. We hold the tiebreaker, which is good for 1 game.

[Peter]

LOL. You are 2 1/2 games behind son. We hold the tiebreaker, which is good for 1 game.

Then 2 back in the loss column with a little over a fourth of the season to go.

[picnroll]

Trust me they are coasting a little right now they have another gear just like the spurs do.
They better kick it up soon then or they'll be starting the Finals on the Western Finals winners homecourt. Point is they are on a par with Western Conference elite unlike what everyone was saying in Jan. We saw the Pistons at their absuolute best in Nov - Jan. We haven't seen the Spurs at their absolute best yet in all likelihood.

[Peter]

So the Pistons are regressing now while the Spurs are building towards playing their best ball at the end of the season and on into the playoffs. Yep, the Pistons are a Flip Saunders-coached team.

[Vinnie_Johnson]

So the Pistons are regressing now while the Spurs are building towards playing their best ball at the end of the season and on into the playoffs. Yep, the Pistons are a Flip Saunders-coached team.

You nailed it I sure hope we can still make the playoffs but even if we do we will never get by the mighty Heat. :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[picnroll]

No. You'll walk past the Heat. Then you'll meet a tough, battle tested Western conference team.

[ABDENOUR POWER]

No. You'll walk past the Heat. Then you'll meet a tough, battle tested Western conference team.

....and grind them into the dirt.

:drunk

[last_train]

That's crazy talk. Nobody on Miami plays any D except their backup center. We can get any shot we want against them all day long. We gotta work for points against the Pistons. I think Detroit might sweep the Heat.

although they have the best record in the nba right now, detroit has been losing their defensive identity since the start of the season. maybe their defense is still better than miami but heat has an opposite trend as riley gives huge amount of confidence to his team and they have a far better bench than detroit right now. many teams can not find a good outside defender whereas miami has two in posey and shandon anderson. to me, detroit's only advantage against spurs is they have 6-11 rasheed wallace to defend duncan instead of 6-8 udonis haslem. but when we compare this to riley's far greater ability of winning in the playoffs than saunders and miami's depth, heat will be more dangerous. that's what i wanted to explain.