News Ian Mahinmi [Archive] - Page 2

Spurologist

06-07-2006, 08:43 PM

If the spurs bring him in this year, Im afraid he'll turn out like Darko. I think he needs another two years to develop I mean he's only 19, and he has a whole lot of upside to him.

How old was Tony when he was brought along. A point guard no less. I will trust the spurs management on this one.

THE SIXTH MAN

06-07-2006, 08:51 PM

How old was Tony when he was brought along. A point guard no less. I will trust the spurs management on this one.
So just because Tony did it all of our euro players will to? I think the front office feels like they should wait to.

THE SIXTH MAN

06-07-2006, 08:52 PM

Tony started at age 19. Turned out bad, didn't it?
Chill thats just my opinion. :smokin

nbascribe

06-07-2006, 08:53 PM

Difference between Tony and Ian is that Parker was playing pro ball at age 15 or 16 already. Ian was just a kid that was tall.

You can't compare the two. Parker came in and ran the show his rookie year. Ian doesn't have that kind of maturity.

picnroll

06-07-2006, 08:54 PM

genghisrex

06-07-2006, 10:46 PM

If the spurs bring him in this year, Im afraid he'll turn out like Darko. I think he needs another two years to develop I mean he's only 19, and he has a whole lot of upside to him.
If the Spurs bring Ian in next season, it will be because Pop and RC believe that he can contribute. If Pop wants Ian now, he'll play him now. The Spurs have a different power structure than in Detroit where Dumars wanted Darko, but Brown and then Flip refused to play him.

Spurologist

06-07-2006, 11:00 PM

So just because Tony did it all of our euro players will to? I think the front office feels like they should wait to.

If he excels in the Summer League like Tony, he might be worth a look.

I have yet to see some quality highlights of his entire game

MannyIsGod

06-07-2006, 11:42 PM

Hmmm, I woudln't be so sure about Petro being worse than Nazr or Rasho. I only saw him play a few times this season but I was very impressed with his athleticism and his shot blocking ability.

Cant_Be_Faded

06-08-2006, 12:13 AM

Even if Ian has no muscle, how could he possibly be that fucking much worse than our current centers? The kid can jump and the day 50 retired, I always thought we just needed a guy to get putbacks....and Ian can JUMP...even if he was as stupid as nazr, that's still better than rasho cuz he can jump

muscle can be added in 3/4 a year if you work out like no other....how can he be so completely unready?

Bruno

06-08-2006, 03:28 AM

Parker started at a young age and was tutored in basketball at INSEP, the French institute for sports where Diaw, Pietrus and Petro trained. I believe Mahinmi took up the game late and never was part of the INSEP program. Apples and oranges.

Agree and the difference with parker is that big men ask more time to develop than guards.

Hmmm, I woudln't be so sure about Petro being worse than Nazr or Rasho. I only saw him play a few times this season but I was very impressed with his athleticism and his shot blocking ability.

Eye of the beholder.
When you look at Petro, you seek positive things because he is 20 years old rookie.
When you look at Rasho/Nazr, you are fed up with their weaknesses.
Petro has made a good season for a rookie but he is still very raw and has made tons of mistakes.

I doubt they bring him unless they see a lot of quick progress, they can't find a suitable situation in Europe or they think defensively he could give them critical help against certain matchups, i.e., Nowitzki.

it's my POV too.

MannyIsGod

06-08-2006, 03:36 AM

Good point Bruno. I am very fed up with our current centers so that makes others look better.

boutons_

06-08-2006, 08:13 AM

"makes others look better."

yep, it's so easy for the fans to think "let's get <whoever> as any step up from Rasho/Nazr" but I'm sure the Spurs staff aren't susceptible to such traps.

Robertas looks like significant, sufficient step up who is also within reach of the Spurs.

Nazr out and Robertas in would just about make my summer cake. Another new big like Reggie Evans would be icing.

I'm going with Beno as backup PG, since Pop wasted a year of Beno's development and the Spurs' time with Nick. Still need another backup PG for when Tony or Beno are out hurt/sick.

I wonder if the Spurs ownership group feels like paying for surrounding Tim with real help as he enters the ending phase of his career? Or, will do they think "profits first, and we got 3 Titles being frugal, why stop being frugal now?"

ducks

06-09-2006, 08:30 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Lg9oOzGQU
this is suppose to be a current highlights of him.

picnroll

06-09-2006, 08:41 AM

Well he's shown definite improvement. He made that dribble drive across the lane and dunk this time without falling on his .

JUUOT

06-09-2006, 08:46 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Lg9oOzGQU
this is suppose to be a current highlights of him.

sweet!!! good job duck

Bruno

06-09-2006, 09:01 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_Lg9oOzGQU
this is suppose to be a current highlights of him.

Thanks.
In fact, it's just from one game against Paris (played 03/18/2006, Ian : 14 pts, 13 rbds, 3 blocks). I posted the video in march (STB'TV 30) but the link doesn't work anymore and the quality of your link is better.

ducks

06-09-2006, 09:03 AM

thanks for the date bruno I had no idea it was that recent

3 blocks and 13 rebounds wow :elephant

ducks

06-09-2006, 09:08 AM

damm it had 22 views 30 minutes ago now it has 78
looks like spur fans are looking at it!

Bruno

06-09-2006, 09:09 AM

3 blocks and 13 rebounds wow :elephant

and 7 turnovers :lol

ducks

06-09-2006, 09:11 AM

7 :depressed

well even duncan gets that many once it a blue moon

leemajors

06-09-2006, 09:18 AM

he looks very quick. i would like to be able to see him against a little more formidable competition.

picnroll

06-09-2006, 09:23 AM

Number 15 for PBR is Volcic Bernd who's listed at 205 cm. Number 14 is Pecherov who is listed at 210 cm. Hard to get an exact read but he looks closer to Bernd's height than Paecherov's.

SPARKY

06-09-2006, 09:24 AM

Man, pick and rolls with him and TP all day long. :smokin

SPARKY

06-09-2006, 09:29 AM

It's time to bring him over. TD doesn't have time to wait.

SPARKY

06-09-2006, 09:32 AM

I wonder if the Spurs ownership group feels like paying for surrounding Tim with real help as he enters the ending phase of his career? Or, will do they think "profits first, and we got 3 Titles being frugal, why stop being frugal now?"

My gut feeling is the latter, but at some point this becomes TP's team. They just need some of their picks currently in Europe to pan out. That's the easiest way to build a team's talent base. Javtokas, Scola, Mahinmi, Sanikidze, and Karaulov could go a long way to keeping this team in the league's elite for a long time.

Extra Stout

06-09-2006, 09:34 AM

It's time to bring him over. TD doesn't have time to wait.
Bringing him over won't magically make him a mature, NBA-ready player. If he's brought prematurely, it slows down his development because he won't get playing time, thus taking even more of the time TD doesn't have to wait.

SPARKY

06-09-2006, 09:43 AM

Bringing him over won't magically make him a mature, NBA-ready player. If he's brought prematurely, it slows down his development because he won't get playing time, thus taking even more of the time TD doesn't have to wait.

I'm aware of that. My point is that you might as well start the NBA learning process for him now instead of hoping that somehow staying in the French league is going to benefit him that much more. The Spurs have already brought him over after their season ended last month for a looksee so perhaps they are thinking along those lines.

Extra Stout

06-09-2006, 09:55 AM

I'm aware of that. My point is that you might as well start the NBA learning process for him now instead of hoping that somehow staying in the French league is going to benefit him that much more. The Spurs have already brought him over after their season ended last month for a looksee so perhaps they are thinking along those lines.
He has to be developed to a certain point before he has a chance to be successful in the NBA. He's not going to start the NBA learning process as the last man off the bench.

SPARKY

06-09-2006, 10:00 AM

Extra Stout

06-09-2006, 10:14 AM

I wouldn't be so sure. A season spent working on weight training, practicing against Tim Duncan and the rest of the bigs , working with Engelland on his shooting, and perhaps a cameo would go a long way towards his development.

Mahmini does not need to be on the Spurs' roster for the Spurs to be involved in his development. They have been so since they drafted him.

He can do weight training in Europe. The Spurs have not revolutionized the concept of the weight room in their SA facility. He can work out in SA some this summer, then the Spurs can develop a regimen for him, and work with his French coaches to ensure he follows through.

There is little practice time during an NBA season, so he wouldn't have much time to glean anything from Duncan or the other bigs.

Mahmini has a lot more to learn about the game than perimeter shooting form, so a specialist like Engelland is not the best coach for him. What he needs most of all is playing time, which he can get right now in Europe, but not in San Antonio.

SPARKY

06-09-2006, 10:16 AM

Gin N Juice

06-09-2006, 10:17 AM

Reminds me of Dave when he first entered the league.

Extra Stout

06-09-2006, 10:31 AM

He's not going to find better competition in France than in the Spurs' practice facility. Yes, it's better to have the weight training done with the team and as for the shooting, what's wrong with a bigman who can shoot a J like a guard?
The Spurs do not practice much during the regular season because of the demands of the schedule. So the "better competition" isn't going to do him any good because he's not going to get many opportunities to play against it in between the plane flights, hotel stays, and night spent in warmups on the bench.

Much of the weight training is done during the offseason, and there's no reason Mahmini can't partake in that without having to be on the 2006-07 roster.

It would be very nice to have a big man who can shoot a J like a guard. I would not be very nice to have a big man who can't play the game of basketball except for shooting a J like a guard, because he was shoved onto an NBA bench before he had to chance to develop.

Who knows, Mahmini might have Jermaine O'Neal upside. Why are you advocating repeating Portland's mistake with him?

The NBA season does not give much of an opportunity to groom young players who aren't going to be in the regular rotation. I suppose you could argue for throwing Mahmini to the wolves and making him the first big off the bench regardless of whether he can handle it, and just cross your fingers that he figures it out. There will be consequences for that in the win-loss column, and in team chemistry.

Mr. Body

06-09-2006, 10:36 AM

All he'll get in the NBA next year that he can't get in Europe is tired from all the travel.

Move him to the next league in France and get him used to the next level of competition, especially as by all appearances the Spurs will already have one new big, maybe two, with Scola, to work into the team philosophy.

SPARKY

06-09-2006, 10:40 AM

Then they can send him to Austin. He'll face better talent there than in France.

velik_m

06-09-2006, 10:42 AM

Then they can send him to Austin. He'll face better talent there than in France.

not if he plays in Euroleague team. Euroleague>NBDL

Russ

06-09-2006, 10:53 AM

Reminds me of Dave when he first entered the league.
He carries himself and moves the same way Dave did. I can see him having the same strengths and weaknesses (not to imply that he'll be as good as Dave, of course).

He fits the template that Dave created for playing next to Duncan -- athletic, no need for the ball, shot blocker, quick defender. Unfortunately, nether Rasho, nor Nazr, nor Oberto has fit that mold yet -- although Nazr teased by looking awful close a few times.

Mr. Body

06-09-2006, 11:15 AM

He also seems to catch the ball fairly well down low. The non-Nazr decent hands.

Rogbok

06-09-2006, 11:30 AM

Mr. Body

06-09-2006, 11:40 AM

I am leaning towards wanting him here now instead of later. In the early months of the season, Pop should give him enough playtime to develop, even if it means some loses. From the sounds of it, he mainly needs to work on his body. He sounds like he picks things up fairly quick and so I think he would come along fine in learning the system and the NBA.

I guess my mind might be changed if he does not play well in the summer leagues or the WC depending on which one he ultimately ends up at.

I'd be for it, too, if Javtokas wasn't coming over.

Especially if Scola comes over, too, there's no time for him to play.

We shouldn't get too greedy on this guy. He'll be good, but you can actually stunt him a little by bringing him over. Let him develop on a team with no great expectations, let him develop his post moves in peace. He's only 19 or 20, right?

Rogbok

06-09-2006, 11:44 AM

I'd be for it, too, if Javtokas wasn't coming over.

Especially if Scola comes over, too, there's no time for him to play.

We shouldn't get too greedy on this guy. He'll be good, but you can actually stunt him a little by bringing him over. Let him develop on a team with no great expectations, let him develop his post moves in peace. He's only 19 or 20, right?

Well, I am not sold that Javtokas and/or Scola are coming over yet. There has been nothing that I have read so far that says one or both of them are going to be with the Spurs next year. I do agree that if both of them come over then we should leave Ian over there to grow some more, but if only one is coming, I might be inclined to still bring him over. Of course, if he shows a lot during summer league or the WC, then I would say bring him over now.

leemajors

06-09-2006, 12:12 PM

the best thing ian can do right now is be on the court as much as possible. that's not gonna happen in san antonio next year.

Mr. Body

06-09-2006, 12:19 PM

Well, I am not sold that Javtokas and/or Scola are coming over yet. There has been nothing that I have read so far that says one or both of them are going to be with the Spurs next year. I do agree that if both of them come over then we should leave Ian over there to grow some more, but if only one is coming, I might be inclined to still bring him over. Of course, if he shows a lot during summer league or the WC, then I would say bring him over now.

I agree with that reasoning, but everything I've seen has Javtokas coming over. It seems a done deal to me.

Scola is another thing. My feeling is he's a Spur next year. Regardless, he'll be in the NBA, if not in SA.

If only Javtokas comes, then I'd think about Mahinmi already. But all else equal, for his own development, I think having him in France for another year or two is best.

SpursChampsIII

06-09-2006, 01:14 PM

Looking at that video, I see no reason to leave him in Europe. Quick feet, good hands, looks pretty quick too. If you surround him with better players, he will be better. Send him to the summer leagues and the NBADL for a short time, then bring him on in. I'll bet he is already better than Oberto, and for the size/length we need to add to the team, probably a better option than Scola.

timvp

06-09-2006, 01:19 PM

Nice video.

Mahinmi can get up, no question. He still looks pretty skinny ... but so did 99% of successful PF/C projects at 19.

With the Spurs currently working him out, I think it'll be tough not to bring him over if he's playing well. I know they want to keep him in Europe, but they also know that they need to win now.

It'll probably come down to free-agency. If they can go out and get a couple quality bigs and a Long Three, then it'll be a lot easier to keep Mahinmi in France.

Kori Ellis

06-09-2006, 01:25 PM

I haven't been that impressed with any Mahinmi video yet. I'm not saying he's not good or won't be good. But he just looks like a skinny, athletic highschool kid who is better than the players around him. He looks raw -- really raw. Does he have any offensive game outside dunks, layups and putbacks? I see why they say he's a couple years away from being NBA ready. I guess we'll see more of him against almost-NBA talent in summer league.

I'm torn about bringing him over. Nothing develops players more than in-game action. And I don't think he'd see any minutes on the Spurs. So in that sense, he should stay overseas. But I wouldn't mind him bringing him over because I think practicing against NBA players would do him a lot of good.

ducks

06-09-2006, 01:40 PM

dunks make highlights not outside shots

not sure if he can shot outside or not though but dunks make highlights

Kori Ellis

06-09-2006, 01:46 PM

Well I've seen game film, not just highlights.

ducks

06-09-2006, 01:53 PM

if that is the case he and spurs need to pick a few spots on the court where he can hit a outside shot and practice that. kind of like bowen in the corner for a three

Kori Ellis

06-09-2006, 01:57 PM

I don't want him to become an outside shooter. It's just that he's not going to be able to just dunk all day in the NBA. He is going to have to develop some shots around the basket .. a hook, a short turnaround, etc.

Bruno

06-09-2006, 02:14 PM

Well I've seen game film, not just highlights.

From a recent game ?

ducks

06-09-2006, 02:35 PM

well that is one advantage of bringing him over
he will not be able to just dunk on duncan!

texasqb2

06-14-2006, 05:09 PM

I got no problem if he only does dunks, layups, or putbacks just as long as he does it a lot in games.

clubalien

06-15-2006, 03:38 PM

dunks and putbacks

isn't that nazrs game?

oh except nazr has the 20 pump fake move.

what was amare's game with SUns athltic dunks? but he started to devlop a shot too.

Bruno

06-15-2006, 03:45 PM

The best choice for Mahinmi next year is Pau-Orthez.
They have a new coach (Gordie Herbert) who is very good to help young players. ian will play the euroleague too if he signs with them.

Lately, Pau's owner has said thay won't sign Mahinmi but with this new coach, there are a new hope. Gordie herbert is too an assistant coach for Spurs during summer leagues.
euroleague + good coach + coach close to Spurs : perfect situation for Ian.

strangeweather

06-15-2006, 05:47 PM

Bruno

06-15-2006, 06:14 PM

Are there any updates on where he might land? When is it likely to settle out?

No real news, only rumors for the moment.
I will do a breakdown between teams sunday when we will know wich team will play the euroleague/uleb cup.

Bruno

06-18-2006, 12:28 PM

Le Mans has won the french championship (BTW, Bokolo is a beast).

Le Mans and Pau-Orthez are qualified for the euroleague.
Nancy and Strasbourg are qualified for the uleb cup.

Mahinmi should sign with one of these four teams. Le Mans and Pau-Orthez are the most likely destinations for him.

T Park

06-18-2006, 12:49 PM

develop the kid over in america.

even if all he can do is rebound dunk and make 5 foot hook shots, bring him over.

exstatic

06-18-2006, 01:45 PM

I think the Spurs are dead set on only a one year deal for Ian in France. If they can find a coaching staff that they like for one of the four Euroleague/ULEB cup teams, and a one year deal, they'll let him ripen for another year. If none of the Euroleague/ULEB cup teams are willing to meet their terms, they may bring him over. I can't see how playing for a lower tier team would help his development.

JUUOT

06-22-2006, 08:55 AM

It is now official that Ian will not play with Asvel next year.

The two destinations of choice seem to be Le Mans and Pau Orthez. (just as bruno pointed out before) the agent acknoledged probabilities are high on this two clubs.

http://www.20minutes.fr/articles/2006/06/22/Lyon_Basket_Mahinmi_boude_l_Asvel_Ruzic_se_tate.ph p

Aggie Hoopsfan

06-22-2006, 08:56 AM

I still say they should bring him over. Let him work in practice against Tim Duncan every day, then send him up to Austin every night to play with the Toros. He'd get a lot more experience than playing over in Europe.

Bruno

06-24-2006, 12:12 PM

Reports in Le Havre local newspaper said that Mahinmi has signed with Pau Orthez yesterday.
It's the best place for him : he will play the euroleague and the coach is very good to help young players and is close to Spurs (he is assistant coach for us during summer leagues).

picnroll

06-24-2006, 12:18 PM

Wonder what changed. Didn't you say they weren't interested in him because he was more interested in his own development than in the team? Will he get playing time with Pau?

polandprzem

06-24-2006, 12:22 PM

Wonder what changed. Didn't you say they weren't interested in him because he was more interested in his own development than in the team? Will he get playing time with Pau?

That's the question I want to have answer on.

Bruno

06-24-2006, 12:28 PM

Wonder what changed. Didn't you say they weren't interested in him because he was more interested in his own development than in the team? Will he get playing time with Pau?

They get a new coach since. The new coach (Gordie Herbert) is maybe the best in France and he should have ask to get a lot of power on the players' signing before signing with pau. Since he is close to Spurs, Spurs have maybe ask him to take Mahinmi.

For the playing time, they haven't finished to sign players. I think that he will mainly play center and split playtime with Hiram Fuller (a quite good american player).

picnroll

06-24-2006, 12:33 PM

Wonder if Sanikidze might end on Pau too. Is Sankidze good enough if he comes back healthy to play for them? He put up decent numbers in limited minutes as an 18-19 year old for Dijon.

Bruno

06-24-2006, 12:50 PM

Wonder if Sanikidze might end on Pau too. Is Sankidze good enough if he comes back healthy to play for them? He put up decent numbers in limited minutes as an 18-19 year old for Dijon.

Pau has still signed a starting SF. If he can be the backup SF but he won't get a lot of time and Pau is in negociation with another one.

picnroll

06-24-2006, 01:00 PM

Well I read it as a positive sign in Mahinmi's development and potential. Regardless of that coach's, ties to the Spurs organization, the only way he's going to take on Mahinmi in an important role in a higher league is if he thinks that Mahinmi can deliver. That coach is not going to risk his career and reputation without confidence Mahinmi can get the job done.

SPARKY

06-24-2006, 01:02 PM

Things seem to have been quiet in re Sanikidze. Hmmm...

timvp

06-24-2006, 02:11 PM

It'll be interesting to see what kind of stats Mahinmi can put on with them. Isn't this the team that Johan Petro played with? If so, I believe he didn't play much.

JUUOT

06-26-2006, 08:22 AM

The rumor is getting bigger and bigger and as announced by bruno:

Now that Pau recruited herbert as a coach who has relationship with spurs, lequipe said Ian should sign with Pau. the only other team on the short list is le Mans but he would have less playing time. http://lequipe.fr/Basket/20060626_113516Dev.html

A club with playing time and in euroleague and a coach that knows spurs well and their system...What more can you ask??? The spurs farm system at its BEST

SPARKY

06-26-2006, 08:23 AM

What more? Bring him over now. TD doesn't have time to wait.

Bruno

06-26-2006, 09:11 AM

http://lequipe.fr/Basket/20060626_113516Dev.html

Salut JUUOT.
An interesting thing in this article is that Pau's GM said he will get playtime and that he will play PF and C.
Few times ago, he has said he wasn't interested in Mahinmi because he was focused on his personal project before a team project and in this interview, he said that Pau is the best choice for his personal project. :lol

A club with playing time and in euroleague and a coach that knows spurs well and their system...What more can you ask??? The spurs farm system at its BEST

Agree and this coach is perfect for young players : a lot of hard practising, know BB well, you can make mistakes during games as long as you play hard and good defense.

BTW, Ian has played yesterday with french second NT against Venezuela. France has won but I haven't the boxscore. I only know that Mahinmi has scored 11 points.

picnroll

06-26-2006, 09:16 AM

I guess it's time to change the thing under my name to Mahinmi in "07.

wildbill2u

06-26-2006, 10:57 PM

Bruno

06-27-2006, 02:58 AM

I guess it's time to change the thing under my name to Mahinmi in "07.

Yep, it's time to do it.

Ian has signed an one year contract with Pau Orthez.

Some details :

- Ian has chosen Pau-Orthez over Le Mans because of Pau's coach (Gordon Herbert) project for Mahinmi.

- Ian has ever thought to sign with Spurs this summer but they have said him that he should stay one more year in France.

- To play Euroleague is the next step of his carreer.

- Pau's GM say that Spurs have pushed him to sign with Pau thru the coach (who is an assistanat coach for Spurs during summer leagues).

- He doesn't fear to be in the same case than Petro (fex playtime) because the coach isn't the same than for Petro and because he isn't petro.

- Ian will play PF and C. Pau's other C is Hiram Fuller (he has played some minutes in NBDL and Kori has maybe heard of him because he played with Noel Felix at Fresno State). Pau's other PF are Michael Bauer (who played with Humphries with Minesswota) and a french guy (either Victor Samnick or Thierry Rupert). They have too a young and talented player : Ludovic Vaty but he won't get playtime next year (he is born in november 1988).

timvp

06-27-2006, 03:06 AM

Hiram Fuller is a pretty good player. He was on a Spurs summer league team a couple years ago. He's borderline NBA talent and an NBA quality rebounder, so it'll be good to be able to compare Mahinmi's numbers to his next season.

Thanks for the info, Bruno. Any idea how man minutes he can expect next season? Is he still planning to play for the Spurs' summer league team this summer?

Thanks.

Bruno

06-27-2006, 03:23 AM

Any idea how man minutes he can expect next season?

No, but Pau's GM has used playtime as an argument for Mahinmi to chose pau over Le mans.
Two things are sure : he will have more games than last year (between 55 and 65 for this year while he has played less than 40 games last year), he will practise a lot : Herbert's practising are known to be long an hard.

Is he still planning to play for the Spurs' summer league team this summer?

I think that it will depend on if he is called to play with the french NT. For the moment he is playing with the french NT second team and he is doing well. He played some games until August 2nd and we will know on August 3rd if he will play for the french NT.

Kori Ellis

06-27-2006, 03:25 AM

Pau's other C is Hiram Fuller (he has played some minutes in NBDL and Kori has maybe heard of him because he played with Noel Felix at Fresno State).

He's one of Noel's closest friends. He was with the Wizards in preseason last year I believe. I met him at summer league when I met Noel. He's a nice guy.

Kori Ellis

06-27-2006, 03:29 AM

It's interesting that Hiram is going to play center. He's a little bit shorter than Noel and chubbier. I'd guess he's around 6'8/260.

Bruno

06-27-2006, 06:03 AM

It's interesting that Hiram is going to play center. He's a little bit shorter than Noel and chubbier. I'd guess he's around 6'8/260.

They list him at 6'9"/278lbs on Pau website.
Don't know how it's accurate. 278lbs is a lot, maybe he has eaten too much fois gras and cassoulet :lol (these recipes come from Pau's area).

picnroll

06-27-2006, 07:08 AM

It would be nice for Kori and LJ to get to see him in Utah but it would be an awesome statement of potential if he were to impress enough to play for the French national team.

A little sad but it sounds good for Ian's development so please change to Mahinmi in '07.

JUUOT

06-27-2006, 07:50 AM

just saw this. good news. hope we will be able to see some of the games.

ducks

06-27-2006, 12:18 PM

cool one year NO BUYOUT :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant

Kori Ellis

06-27-2006, 02:18 PM

They list him at 6'9"/278lbs on Pau website.
Don't know how it's accurate. 278lbs is a lot, maybe he has eaten too much fois gras and cassoulet :lol (these recipes come from Pau's area).

Well if he's 278, then he's fatter than I thought. :lol I thought he was 265 maximum. He's not quite 6'9 because he's just a little shorter than Noel.

T Park

06-27-2006, 02:31 PM

Playing another year in europe is a total waste of Duncan's, Mine, and every fan's time.

Bullshit and horrible move...

Mr. Body

06-27-2006, 02:34 PM

Playing another year in europe is a total waste of Duncan's, Mine, and every fan's time.

Bullshit and horrible move...

No, it's not. He's absolutely not ready yet.

MoSpur

06-27-2006, 02:35 PM

Playing one year in Europe against quality competition is a great move.

picnroll

06-27-2006, 09:19 PM

Interview with Mahinmi
link (http://www.europeanprospects.com/)

Mahinmi to Pau
by xtf_no4 @ 2006-06-27 - 20:50:14
It is now official, Ian Mahinmi signed a 1-yr contract with Pau-Orthez. Here is a translation that he gave to the French Daily Newspaper l'Equipe.

L'EQUIPE : Why did you chose Pau ?
Ian Mahinmi : I had to chose between Pau and Le Mans. In the beginning, I had a preference for Le Mans. I took some time, and the coach change in Pau made me think about my choice. What made me change my opinion were the discussions with the new coahc, Gordon Herbert. I do not going to say what he told me, but he explained me the project he prepared for me and this convinced me. His speech convinced me.

L'EQUIPE : The fact, that he works with the Spurs had some impact?
Ian Mahinmi : Yes, of course, this eased it. At one moment, I thought, this is the right moment to go directly to sign with the Spurs, as they are going to rejuvenate their team. But they told ée to stay one more season in Europe and play with the best.

L'EQUIPE : The Euroleague will be a huge change for you...
Ian Mahinmi : It is rellay important to play on that level. It corresponds exactly to what I planned to go for.

L'EQUIPE : The exemple of Johan Pétro, who did not play a lot in the Euroleague with Pau, did that made you reflect about your decision?
Ian Mahinmi : It is clear that I always said, that I did not want to live what Johan lived. But we are different, and the situation is different. The coach is not the same anymore.

ChumpDumper

06-27-2006, 09:22 PM

Let's hope we ge someone better than Ian this summer.

timvp

06-27-2006, 09:36 PM

Sounds like Mahinmi is '07 is a given. Only things that could change that are injury or if he just bombs out.

Beer is Good

06-27-2006, 09:45 PM

Ian needs more time to develop. I wish he was ready now, but it just seems like he isn't. The main thing the Spurs need for this next season is to make sure Timmy sees limited minutes until the playoffs similar to this year. I really wish all of our key players that are in the WC were not playing this summer. Especially Manu - get some damn rest and come back next season on fire. That's what I feel.

picnroll

06-28-2006, 09:03 AM

Looks like Pau's not resigning their starting small forward. I know Bruno said that Sankidze wouldn't likely go there because he wouldn't get minutes. Maybe this changes things. Ludden says Sankidze's going overseas and this level competion would be good if he's got the game.

From the article discussing Mahinimi in l'Equipe.

Pau, meanwhile, have announced the departure of small forward Laurent Foirest, who had been at the club for three seasons.

The 32-year-old France international, who was included in the provisional 12-man squad for the FIBA World Championship, failed to reach an agreement on his contract renewal.

Foirest wanted a two-year extension whereas the club only offered him a one year deal.

"We can consider that he is going to leave," admitted club president Pierre Seillant.

"He wanted a contract extension that we could not give him."

Bruno

06-28-2006, 10:06 AM

Looks like Pau's not resigning their starting small forward. I know Bruno said that Sankidze wouldn't likely go there because he wouldn't get minutes.

In fact they still have signed another starting SF (Ricardo Greer, a dominican player, quite good even if he is undersized). They wanted to sign Foirest as backup SF.
They can sign Sanikidze as backup SF but I think that's it's unlikely.

TDMVPDPOY

06-28-2006, 10:18 AM

ducks

06-28-2006, 10:42 AM

greg odens has proved nothing in the nba
should be a star though

polandprzem

06-28-2006, 11:11 AM

is mahinmi the answer to big ball after 2007? i think the nba is goin to make small ball obsolete, when the big guyz in the 2007 draft come out. greg oden class. mahinmi is the answer to the dwight howards, greg odens

Might be.

Well Oden has a potential, Howard is absolutely no doubt future machine, Amare can be back to preovius, still you can play small ball with these guys.]

All I know that we have absolutely no clue who Mahimini will become. None.

Ninja-Defense

06-28-2006, 03:43 PM

I trust RC and CIA Pop so if they think he's not ready then so be it...

JUUOT

06-29-2006, 03:08 PM

France A' team finsihed their first friendly tournament by loosing against italia.

Ian played well racking up 12 points. he scored 11 in the first game and 4 in the second (no boxscore available). But the report says he was showing his potential well. However he left the game before the end hurt...

Turiaf (LA lakers) did not play. He is clearly the french boss in the paint and has 90% chance to play with the A team in the worlds. it is good for Ian to be groomed with ronnie.

Kori Ellis

06-29-2006, 03:10 PM

But the report says he was showing his potential well. However he left the game before the end hurt...

Any word what type of injury or how bad?

exstatic

06-29-2006, 07:48 PM

Playing another year in europe is a total waste of Duncan's, Mine, and every fan's time.

Bullshit and horrible move...
Premature Exageration...

You do realize that he is still SO young that he would not have been eligable for this year's draft had he not come out last year?

Rushing a player will get you Bender knees or Amare knees. Let him percolate over in the Euroleague this year, and build up his stamina playing 60 something games. At 19, his bone plates haven't even closed yet. He's still a growing boy.

If the Spurs added only warm bodies with pulses, they will be in the WCFs for the next 4 years, and will win their share. Only that stupid seeding anomaly prevented it this year.

Quadzilla99

06-29-2006, 07:52 PM

TDMVPDPOY

06-29-2006, 07:57 PM

i wonder is he any better than darko at the same age?

JUUOT

06-29-2006, 09:16 PM

Any word what type of injury or how bad?

no idea. he had some trouble with ankles at the end of the season at le havre. It is a friendly tournament and the A' team. Since there is no detail in the report i think it was just an alarm and since the game was out of reach the coaching staff decided to protect him and get him out. No need to take risks!

For example Turiaf did not dress for the game but there are no report he is hurt. Explanation seems to be that he is already in for the A team and they try to test the others.

So no worries for now, we will know more when they play their next game

Kori Ellis

06-29-2006, 09:21 PM

Thanks for the info, as always.

JUUOT

06-29-2006, 09:33 PM

So i checked their program,

30 Juin à 22h45 : France - Chine
01 Juillet à 20h30 : Italie - France
02 Juillet à 22h00 : France - Japon

He could possibly rest against china but should play at least in a game if it is not a bad injury. If he does not play his chances to make the A team would be minimal...really hard competition to get in.

polandprzem

06-30-2006, 08:43 AM

Premature Exageration...

You do realize that he is still SO young that he would not have been eligable for this year's draft had he not come out last year?

Rushing a player will get you Bender knees or Amare knees. Let him percolate over in the Euroleague this year, and build up his stamina playing 60 something games. At 19, his bone plates haven't even closed yet. He's still a growing boy.

If the Spurs added only warm bodies with pulses, they will be in the WCFs for the next 4 years, and will win their share. Only that stupid seeding anomaly prevented it this year.

:tu

He is frickin not ready at all. He would sit the entire NBA season just practicing and that not helping in fast developing.
I'm concerner he will not be ready for the next two years. The big guys always needs more time to "grow up" (basketball wise)

Bruno

07-01-2006, 04:47 PM

Mahinmi injury wasn't serious, he has played tonight against Italy (I don't know if he has played against China) and scored 12 points.

exstatic

07-01-2006, 05:00 PM

i think pop and buford are going to bring ian in. I think the are sand bagging when they say he is not ready.......when will he be ready.....when we are absolutly sure he will be a star....we will never no that.......I think he's with the team at the start of the season.

Of course, since this is a free country, you are free to think what you want, but you do realize that he has signed a contract for next year with Pau Orthez? Since FIBA and the NBA have recognized each other's contracts a long while back, this means he isn't coming.

picnroll

07-01-2006, 06:37 PM

Mahinmi injury wasn't serious, he has played tonight against Italy (I don't know if he has played against China) and scored 12 points.
What was the final score Bruno? I guess no boxscores.

Bruno

07-01-2006, 06:54 PM

What was the final score Bruno? I guess no boxscores.

Italy 94
France 88

ITALY: Cavaliero 6, Maresca 0, Di Giuliomaria 11, Brkic 9, Pecile 7, Garri 17, Ghiacci 2, Boscagin 11, Michelori 10, Di Bella 16, Malaventura 5, Crosariol 0.

FRANCE: Darrigand 8, Amagou 1, Sangare 11, Ferchaud 13, Badiane 2, Adjiwanou 0, Mahinmi 12, Mipoka 10, Brun 12, Soliman 0, Turiaf 17.

picnroll

07-01-2006, 06:59 PM

No rebounds or blocks I guess. Any idea if Mahinmi has a shot at the national team after his play so far?

Bruno

07-01-2006, 07:06 PM

No rebounds or blocks I guess. Any idea if Mahinmi has a shot at the national team after his play so far?

Very unlikely.
Turiaf will be selected ahead of Mahinmi. (and maybe Petro too)
Spurs can ask too to the french coach not to select Mahinmi if they want to see him playing in summer league instead of being an end of the bench guy in NT.
French staff has decided to work with NBA teams and select players only if the NBA team agrees

Final answer on july 3rd.

Bruno

07-03-2006, 06:01 AM

Mahinmi has scored 16 points against japan yesterday.

French coach has given the NT list today. Mahinmi hasn't been selected. As awaited, Petro and Turiaf get last spots for bigmen. He has finished to play with a french NT for this summer and he is now free to pratice in SA and to play summer league.

TDMVPDPOY

07-03-2006, 06:06 AM

JUUOT

07-03-2006, 09:03 AM

He had his chance and played it well. he had 2 really good tournament with the A' team being the third or fourth best scorer of the team. Turiaf is a better choice.

The reason we should be happy though is that few month ago when Ian was on the TP show he said the plan was to play with the under 20 europe tournament this summer. But he had a chance to play with the big guys. That is a proof of his advanced development.

I hope he comes to summer league instead of finally playing for the french under 20. i want to see what he can do here with SA...

picnroll

07-03-2006, 10:41 AM

It will be nice to get first hand reports on Mahinmi from SL but he likely would have probably gotten more out of scrimmaging with the French national team in preparation for the WCs, even if he sat at the end of the bench in tournaments, than playing in the SL. The difference will hopefully be made up by his working out with Duncan and others in San Antonio over the summer.

Bruno

07-03-2006, 10:48 AM

The reason we should be happy though is that few month ago when Ian was on the TP show he said the plan was to play with the under 20 europe tournament this summer. But he had a chance to play with the big guys. That is a proof of his advanced development.

I hope he comes to summer league instead of finally playing for the french under 20. i want to see what he can do here with SA...

If you remember well, Mahinmi said too that french staff has decided that either you play with the senior or with the junior but not both like TP did in the past.
The U20 team has almost finished his friendly games and it's higly unlikely that Mahinmi play with them while he has missed all the tactical work they have done to be ready for the U20 euro. Mahinmi will play for the Spurs summer league team.

timvp

07-03-2006, 02:49 PM

Last night on Instant Replay on KSAT they had an interview with Mahinmi. It was pretty old but it showed some game footage. The thing that strikes me about him is the lower half of him is so skinny. He still has to gain 20 pounds at least to become a regular NBA player.

In his interview he acted very Spur-like and seems to be a good kid. A teammate (American Tony Stanley) had some good things to say about him. He called him "super, super athletic" and said he had a huge heart and passion for the game.

It'll be interesting to see how Mahinmi develops in the next year. From his video, he looks like he's has Steven Hunter type potential.