Where are the Finley haters now?! [Archive]

reader

03-07-2006, 12:47 AM

I have the Lakers broadcasters, even they had to stop their Kobe praise for a moment, to talk about Finley, but just for a moment.

edit...

Oh - My - Word. They actually called Finley, Player of the Game. I thought it was impossible for anyone but Kobe to be player of the game in LA.

mavsfan1000

03-07-2006, 12:49 AM

Yeah Finley gets hot once in a while. The playoffs will be different though as he hasn't done anything at that time.

SequSpur

03-07-2006, 12:51 AM

Yeah Finley gets hot once in a while. The playoffs will be different though as he hasn't done anything at that time.

Thanks for your insight. Does Mavtalk close at 5pm or something?

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

03-07-2006, 12:51 AM

Yeah Finley gets hot once in a while. The playoffs will be different though as he hasn't done anything at that time.

Don't worry, there's Duncan, Ginobili, Horry, Parker, Mohammed, Van Exel...just pick which one will hit the shot that will knock your team out.

Tek_XX

03-07-2006, 12:51 AM

:lol

Where were you when he wasn't. Don't get me wrong i want to see him do well but do we have to play this game

ChumpDumper

03-07-2006, 12:52 AM

Yeah Finley gets hot once in a while. The playoffs will be different though as he hasn't done anything at that time.As long as Cuban's checks don't bounce.

Mike says thanks for another $194,000 tonight!

Aggie Hoopsfan

03-07-2006, 12:54 AM

Yeah Finley gets hot once in a while. The playoffs will be different though as he hasn't done anything at that time.

Even if he's off we'll still have more than enough to beat your piece of shit team.

2centsworth

03-07-2006, 12:55 AM

As long as Cuban's checks don't bounce.

Mike says thanks for another $194,000 tonight!
that's sick, 194k per game.

angel_luv

03-07-2006, 12:55 AM

Way to go, Birthday Boy! :)

Sec24Row7

03-07-2006, 12:56 AM

Mavericks :lol

I think I felt a bump on the right side of the car. Manu you see anything?

Josh810

03-07-2006, 01:00 AM

Yeah Dallas gets hot once in a while. The playoffs will be different though as they haven't done anything at that time.

slayermin

03-07-2006, 01:03 AM

Thanks for your insight. Does Mavtalk close at 5pm or something?

:rollin

exstatic

03-07-2006, 01:03 AM

Glad he's finally hitting some shots. Isn't that what we are paying him for? Is he over 40% for season FG% yet?

He's never going to be my favorite Spur...

Obstructed_View

03-07-2006, 01:04 AM

It sure took Finley a while to wash the loser off of him. The soap must be better in Phoenix.

loveforthegame

03-07-2006, 01:05 AM

I wanna see his stats since the All-Star break.

I just caculated the minutes, fg, 3pt, ft, and pts for you.

23min, 5-10, 4-6, 0-0, 14pts
27min, 3-12, 1-5, 4-4, 11pts
20min, 0-4, 0-1, 0-1, 0pts
23min, 8-8, 5-5, 1-2, 22pts
25min, 5-9, 1-3, 4-6, 15pts
21min, 3-8, 1-2, 2-2, 9pts
26min, 8-11, 5-6, 0-1, 21pts

165min (24), 32-62 fg (51.6%), 17-28 3pt (60.7%), 11-14 ft (79%), 92 pts (13)

timvp

03-07-2006, 01:08 AM

I just caculated the minutes, fg, 3pt, ft, and pts for you.

23min, 5-10, 4-6, 0-0, 14pts
27min, 3-12, 1-5, 4-4, 11pts
20min, 0-4, 0-1, 0-1, 0pts
23min, 8-8, 5-5, 1-2, 22pts
25min, 5-9, 1-3, 4-6, 15pts
21min, 3-8, 1-2, 2-2, 9pts
26min, 8-11, 5-6, 0-1, 21pts

165min (24), 32-62 fg (51.6%), 17-28 3pt (60.7%), 11-14 ft (79%), 92 pts (13)

Nicely done. I was about to go see for myself.

If Finley can have a game or two like this in each playoff series, that'd be outstanding.

:smokin

loveforthegame

03-07-2006, 01:08 AM

Glad he's finally hitting some shots. Isn't that what we are paying him for? Is he over 40% for season FG% yet?

He's never going to be my favorite Spur...

He's 40.1% after tonight.

mavsfan1000

03-07-2006, 01:10 AM

Should I bring out the stats of Finley in the playoffs the last 2 years? :lol

SequSpur

03-07-2006, 01:11 AM

Should I bring out the stats of Finley in the playoffs the last 2 years? :lol

Should I remind you that you're annoying?

You had your chance, your team lost, so go away.

Thank you.

timvp

03-07-2006, 01:12 AM

Should I bring out the stats of Finley in the playoffs the last 2 years? :lol

How about 2002 when he averaged 25 and 7?

ChumpDumper

03-07-2006, 01:12 AM

Should I bring out the stats of Finley in the playoffs the last 2 years? :lolHey, it isn't his fault he had no one playing inside to get him open.

Kori Ellis

03-07-2006, 01:13 AM

Should I bring out the stats of Finley in the playoffs the last 2 years? :lol

Here's his career playoff numbers
41.4 mpg
.417 FG
.382 3FG
.851 FT
5.2 rpg
17.8 ppg

I'll take it. Maybe if your gimmick of a coach didn't play him 42mpg, his shooting percentage wouldn't have been a little low.

Johnny_Blaze_47

03-07-2006, 01:13 AM

Should I bring out the stats of Finley in the playoffs the last 2 years? :lol

Should I bring out the Mavs playoff results for the past, oh, let's say forever?

maxpower

03-07-2006, 01:14 AM

Should I bring out the stats of Finley in the playoffs the last 2 years? :lol
Burn your own team just to bring down a player...now that's what I call a mavs fan. :lol

SequSpur

03-07-2006, 01:15 AM

damn....

mavsfan1000 is gettin his ass handed to him.

timvp

03-07-2006, 01:16 AM

Oh and go look at Dirk's playoff stats from last year. It'd be nice if your bigman could hit over 40% from the field :lol

Obstructed_View

03-07-2006, 01:16 AM

Should I bring out the stats of Finley in the playoffs the last 2 years? :lol
It's funny that he's only a loser when he's in Dallas.

ChumpDumper

03-07-2006, 01:17 AM

Oh and go look at Dirk's playoff stats from last year. It'd be nice if your bigman could hit over 40% from the field :lolThat was obviously Erick Dampier's fault.

mavsfan1000

03-07-2006, 01:18 AM

Hey at least we got one of our losers off the team. Now we just need to work with the other to fix his game. :lol

timvp

03-07-2006, 01:18 AM

That was obviously Erick Dampier's fault.

Maybe Dirk can blame this short playoff run on Jason Terry again...

timvp

03-07-2006, 01:19 AM

Hey at least we got one of our losers off the team. Now we just need to work with the other to fix his game. :lol

Dirk is a loser?

I guess he is learning.

:smokin

Obstructed_View

03-07-2006, 01:21 AM

Hey at least we got one of our losers off the team. Now we just need to work with the other to fix his game. :lol
If Nash and Finley are any indication it looks like the recipe for making a Maverick a winner is to put him on another team.

2centsworth

03-07-2006, 01:22 AM

Dallas is a nice team and most fans would love to have a team like the mavs. Just we in SA are a little spoiled with all the championship parties and if the mavs are our biggest threat then I'll begin to plan the next one.

Buddy Holly

03-07-2006, 01:22 AM

Can I say it again?????

OWN'D!!!!

SequSpur

03-07-2006, 01:22 AM

If Nash and Finley are any indication it looks like the recipe for making a Maverick a winner is to put him on another team.

Nash hasn't won crap either, except an MVP award which should've went to someone else.

picnroll

03-07-2006, 01:23 AM

Yeah Finley gets hot once in a while. The playoffs will be different though as he hasn't done anything at that time.
He just have to have one or two hot games per series. Duncan, Parker and Manu can carry the rest. Unlike when he was with the Mavs Finley has more than just chokers surrounding him.

timvp

03-07-2006, 01:25 AM

Nash in his final year with Mavs had a horrible playoffs. He averaged 13.6 points and shot less than 40% from the field. After leaving Big _, Nash averaged 23.9 points, 11.3 assists and shot 52% from the field.

Against the Mavs, Nash averaged 30.3 points, 12 assists and shot 55% from the floor.

Oops.

:smokin

Obstructed_View

03-07-2006, 01:27 AM

The Spurs won't be relying on Finley to bail their ass out of the fire every single game and then turn on him if he doesn't succeed often enough.

mavsfan1000

03-07-2006, 01:28 AM

I think Nash and Finley finally decided to stop going to bars. :lol

koopa

03-07-2006, 01:35 AM

Yeah Finley gets hot once in a while. The playoffs will be different though as he hasn't done anything at that time.

kinda like dirk right?

Cant_Be_Faded

03-07-2006, 01:36 AM

finley sucks

Dre_7

03-07-2006, 02:24 AM

Where were you when he wasn't. Don't get me wrong i want to see him do well but do we have to play this game

You can go back thru all my posts. I was supporting Fin and saying he would pick it up by playoff time, even when he was shooting 30%.

Dre_7

03-07-2006, 02:25 AM

Oh, and living in Wisconsin, I am a little biased toward the past pro athlete ever to come out of the University of Wisconsin. :D So I have and will always be a Finley fan. Its just multiplied now that he is on my favorite pro team.

Louie Vega

03-07-2006, 04:05 AM

Yeah Finley gets hot once in a while. The playoffs will be different though as he hasn't done anything at that time.

You sound like a bitter man talking about his ex. Of course you would say something like that.

MI21

03-07-2006, 07:49 AM

Michael Finley > Jerry Stackhouse

Rummpd

03-07-2006, 08:14 AM

The most over-rated thing about Stackhouse is his high own opinion of his crybaby, bad decision making down the stretch self. I mean he was going to be the next Jordan according to his proclamations right?

Best thing about Stackhouse - gives me a full hat trick to despise on the Mavs in Cry Baby (MVP of the owner category) Cuban and Keith soft as charmin Horn.

TDMVPDPOY

03-07-2006, 08:18 AM

mavsfans should blame rasho for the mavs desmise

5ToolMan

03-07-2006, 09:05 AM

Should I bring out the stats of Finley in the playoffs the last 2 years? :lol

Dont bother, as they are meaningless as you. Fin won't be sinking with Squirk and the rest of the Mavs school of losers. He will be swimming with the playoff sharks of the NBA.

The difference in the two enviroments is huge! I know you are a little slow, but perhaps you will understand when you see it ... again in June. :smokin

50 cent

03-07-2006, 10:53 AM

Should I bring out the stats of Finley in the playoffs the last 2 years? :lol

Should we bring out Dirk's stats from last year's Playoff series?

I'm pretty sure he led the Mavs on the 'pointing his finger and blaming other teammates' stat, but that's about it.

:lmao

SenorSpur

03-07-2006, 10:59 AM

Glad he's finally hitting some shots. Isn't that what we are paying him for? Is he over 40% for season FG% yet?

He's never going to be my favorite Spur...

Same here. No one has ever questioned Fin's ability and talent. It's his consistency that I've often questioned. Too often with the MAvs, he came up empty when clutch shots were sorely needed.

I'm glad his finding his rhythm. I'll be more convinced when I see him knock down these shots consistently in the playoffs. Still like to see him go to the hole a couple of times too.

pache100

03-07-2006, 10:59 AM

Hey at least we got one of our losers off the team. Now we just need to work with the other to fix his game. :lol

Yes, and please tell Mark Cuban..."Thanks!!!!!" for those big ol' fat checks he keeps sending to Fin.

1Parker1

03-07-2006, 11:11 AM

Key it up Finley, I wasn't the impressed earlier in the season, but you've been coming up lately! :tu

easjer

03-07-2006, 11:23 AM

Meh. I'm not a Finley hater, but I'm not his #1 fan either. I didn't really want to sign him or NVE, and as far as I'm concerned, they've borne me out on that. I'm happy enough to have them when they are making shots and doing well, but I really hate when they revert to their old selves and take bad shots repeatedly.

As with nearly everyone but Tony and Timmy (who are my favs) I can take or leave nearly anyone, depending on how they are playing in any given game.

NCaliSpurs

03-07-2006, 11:39 AM

Has anyone noticed that Finley is actually pretty energetic on Defense? He is looking younger as time has gone on. Or am I completely imagining this?

DDS4

03-07-2006, 11:42 AM

Has anyone noticed that Finley is actually pretty energetic on Defense? He is looking younger as time has gone on. Or am I completely imagining this?

He has to. No D, no PT. Plus, less minutes on the court, he can spend on D.

Peter

03-07-2006, 11:58 AM

The moral of this story is that if an opponent seeks to stymie Duncan and keep Parker out of the lane, there will be scoring opportunities for the enterprising vet.

Jackson has been the only coach to manage to defeat the Spurs in a postseason series since they've moved to the motion offense. I guess it's a little trickier when you don't have Shaq and Malone patrolling the paint.

SenorSpur

03-07-2006, 12:00 PM

Has anyone noticed that Finley is actually pretty energetic on Defense? He is looking younger as time has gone on. Or am I completely imagining this?

Yeah, and Don Nelson claimed for years the guy couldn't play D. Of course, it's a matter of effort and desire.

Peter

03-07-2006, 12:04 PM

Nelson couldn't coach defense if he was paid to do so. Oh wait, he was...

pache100

03-07-2006, 12:07 PM

Has anyone noticed that Finley is actually pretty energetic on Defense? He is looking younger as time has gone on. Or am I completely imagining this?

Both the Thompson brothers were saying last night that they think Finley is finally "getting it". They think he is finally figuring out the Spurs system and getting more used to his role on defense. From my point of view, I think his new-found overall maturity began when he realized if he wants a ring, he has to play Pop's way...and requested to come off the bench versus starting, saying that he thinks he's more effective that way. That was really big for a guy like Finley. Yes, I think he does look different. I don't know that I think it's younger, just more comfortable, happier, more at home in his own skin. And, yes, definitely more energetic.

I was never a Finley hater. I didn't like him, but it was because of stuff he did to us when we played against him (a la Robert Horry). Nothing personal. I didn't want them to sign him, either, but after they did, I didn't have any problem accepting him as a Spur. I'm still working on Nick.

polandprzem

03-07-2006, 12:29 PM

pache100 if vanx will be playing better and better you will accept him?

newbiefan

03-07-2006, 12:49 PM

23min, 5-10, 4-6, 0-0, 14pts
27min, 3-12, 1-5, 4-4, 11pts
20min, 0-4, 0-1, 0-1, 0pts[I]
23min, 8-8, 5-5, 1-2, 22pts
25min, 5-9, 1-3, 4-6, 15pts
21min, 3-8, 1-2, 2-2, 9pts
26min, 8-11, 5-6, 0-1, 21pts

must not have been wearing his "lucky" jordans

Jimcs50

03-07-2006, 12:54 PM

Numbers for March

24.0 mins 16-28 .571 7-11 .636 6-8 .750 0.3 0.0 1.0 0.3 0.3 2.3 2.7 1.7 15.0 pts

:smokin

pache100

03-07-2006, 01:36 PM

pache100 if vanx will be playing better and better you will accept him?

Absolutely. Actually, I have sort of accepted him; I guess that's why I allow myself to be disappointed in him.

texasqb2

03-07-2006, 02:20 PM

Should I bring out the stats of Finley in the playoffs the last 2 years? :lol

That's not fair, Finley hasn't played in that many playoffs rounds :-)

SAGambler

03-07-2006, 02:30 PM

Has anyone noticed that Finley is actually pretty energetic on Defense? He is looking younger as time has gone on. Or am I completely imagining this?

I think someone noted earlier in this thread that maybe had Finley not played 42mpg in Dallas, he may not have been worn out come playoff time.

Ithink you are right about him being more energetic. It may be because he's only putting in 20 some minutes a game. Or it may be, he sees that elusive ring at the end of the rainbow.. Something he may of dreamed of in Dallas, but knew was only a dream. Now it a reality. That could energize anyone.

I, too, was one of those that was worried about signing Finley, mainly due to his inconsistant playoff games in Dallas. I certainly knew the talent was there, and hoped he would come in and be what I knew he could be. Finally that is starting to show. I think Sean even mentioned last night that now his teammates are comfortable with him, and even look for him to knock down those shots. That tells me he has now fit into this teams concept. And I'm not surprised that it took him a half season to do that. Championship teams don't just accept newbies. They have to earn a place in the rotation. And the have to earn their teammates respect. Looks like Fin has accomplished both those things.

Cant_Be_Faded

03-07-2006, 02:34 PM

finley blowwwws
lets see him score more than 10 points consistently

NCaliSpurs

03-07-2006, 02:39 PM

finley blowwwws
lets see him score more than 10 points consistently

:angel

His average is 9.9. So I don't think your quote means much.

ShoogarBear

03-07-2006, 02:43 PM

The Spurs have their best record ever at this point in the year.

This despite Duncan and Manu having subpar seasons. Why?

Some of the credit, of course, goes to Tony's breakout performance, but it's not like he's been the second coming of Isiah. Bruce, has been solid, of course, but that's not enough of a reason either.

It's the depth. Everyone else has spent extended time both in the "sucking" and "making key contributions" category: Finley, NVE, Nazr, Rasho, Brent, Horry, Beno, Marks. For every one of those guys, you can find at least 1 or 2 games where they were a key to a win. For example, Barry did almost nothing all year, but then picked it up just just when we were really having productivity problems from Manu and NVE.

Not one of them has impressive stats. So I find it funny when somebody says "X sucks", because you could say that about any of them at one time or another during the year. Yeah, it would be better if we had 1 or 2 guys we could consistently count on. And for the playoffs, I think we absolutely will need that. So far, though, it's working.

mavsfan1000

03-07-2006, 03:18 PM

I'm waiting for the Finley who can't shoot over 40% to return. Gotta love his 3-12 type of nights. heh?

kskonn

03-07-2006, 03:25 PM

I'm waiting for the Finley who can't shoot over 40% to return. Gotta love his 3-12 type of nights. heh?

well if 3-12 means he wil shoot 10-12 some nights then I can except that because that means he is consistent with his shot selection. Really that is one thing the spurs have lacked, an out side shooter who would consistently take the open shots and not let the misses effect his aggresiveness.

kskonn

03-07-2006, 03:27 PM

Finley was also creating a lot more of his own shots in dallas, instead of getting wide open looks fed to him from the post like he is now. Of course he is going to be inconsistent on fade aways and runners but on wide open jump shots I think he will be ok.

leemajors

03-07-2006, 03:36 PM

I'm waiting for the Finley who can't shoot over 40% to return. Gotta love his 3-12 type of nights. heh?

maybe he won't since his team has a consistent low post threat as well as 2 other teammates who teammates clog the lane for. he may come back, but maybe he is settling in to his role as a spot up shooter who consistently gets open looks.

MoSpur

03-07-2006, 03:41 PM

Finley is having a good stretch right now. I am excited about his. Manu had a great game last night and Tim has had two in a row. The Spurs are starting to peak. I just hope they win all this week.

2centsworth

03-07-2006, 03:42 PM

I'm waiting for the Finley who can't shoot over 40% to return. Gotta love his 3-12 type of nights. heh?
does it really matter? Spurs beat the mavs with vinny del negro, steve kerr, and derek anderson. They surely will beat them with Finley off the bench, shoot they might beat them with my fat butt of the bench.:lol

GoSpurs21

03-07-2006, 04:50 PM

leemajors

03-07-2006, 04:58 PM

Nelson couldn't coach defense if he was paid to do so. Oh wait, he was...

i think some of the bucks teams coached by don nelson had one of the top ranked defenses at the time. then again, that was a long time ago.

mavsfan1000

03-07-2006, 05:14 PM

Nelson used to care about defense but when got older he cared very little and instead went the opposite direction in run and gun stuff.

grjr

03-07-2006, 05:35 PM

I always thought that Finley was the one Mav that actually tried to play some defense back in the day. Mostly towrds the end of games though.

mavsfan1000

03-07-2006, 06:06 PM

I always thought that Finley was the one Mav that actually tried to play some defense back in the day. Mostly towrds the end of games though.
Now that is funny. Finley never played defense when he was with Dallas.

Obstructed_View

03-07-2006, 06:23 PM

I always thought that Finley was the one Mav that actually tried to play some defense back in the day. Mostly towrds the end of games though.
I first noticed Fin when he played for the Suns. He came in and stuck to Jordan like gum on his shoe for the game. It was a great defensive performance, especially by a young player who might have been so awed by Jordan that he wouldn't be able to play with him. Finley did indeed play defense when he played for the Mavericks, even after Nelson's abandonment of defense from a team standpoint. Finley's defense really went to hell in his final year with the team, when he put off surgery and the Mavericks fans suddenly decided he was a useless player. Don Nelson inherited a defensive team in Milwaukee and turned them into an offensive at the expense of defense team that couldn't get it done in big games. He did the same for Dallas.

leemajors

03-07-2006, 06:28 PM

Jordan did state at one point that Finley was one of the top players in the league, but that was around his first retirement or shortly after. He was also a regular at Jordan's infamous summer workouts.

wildbill2u

03-07-2006, 06:39 PM

:lol

Waiting in the wings with the NAZR haters and Barry haters. And the TP haters and the Gino haters and the worst of all, Tim Duncan haters. And I won't even mention the Pop haters or FO haters who long for a streak of losing games so they can predict Armageddon for the Spurs season.

All you have to do is have one bad or average game and these 'fans' come out of the woodwork.