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Slomo

03-11-2006, 12:37 PM

Good riddance!

Sec24Row7

03-11-2006, 12:41 PM

Marklar MM

03-11-2006, 12:44 PM

jochhejaam

03-11-2006, 12:53 PM

Believe to be of natural causes. He had a heart condition.
Wouldn't that necessitate having a heart?

Marklar MM

03-11-2006, 01:00 PM

Wouldn't that necessitate having a heart?

He had a black heart.

velik_m

03-11-2006, 01:16 PM

Good riddance!

i can already see all locked up in Haag going "It was all Milosevic's fault! He told me to do that...".

ObiwanGinobili

03-11-2006, 01:39 PM

about friggin time!!
was it natural? I almost wish he did off himself.

or firing squad.

Slomo

03-11-2006, 01:40 PM

i can already see all locked up in Haag going "It was all Milosevic's fault! He told me to do that...".Probably.

But him being alive would not have changer anything since they would have ended accusing each other in order to confuse the real issues (what he was a master of anyway).

Vashner

03-11-2006, 01:57 PM

Suicide?

It's funny how big leaders who have been stripped of everything so often kill themselves in jail, but Joe Schmo with a 3rd grade education can live out a full life term without capping himself.

Weird.

edit: hrrrm apparently natural causes. Sure we will hear more later.

Cause our jails are full of drugs and systems. This guy was in Solitary.

He was no push over... lol this was one tough SOB.

Manu'sMagicalLeftHand

03-11-2006, 04:29 PM

Too bad it was a heart condition and not something long and painful as cancer...

SoCalSpursFan

03-11-2006, 05:45 PM

Hopefully they don't have the internet in the afterlife...I don't think he would be pleased with this thread!

Trainwreck2100

03-11-2006, 11:36 PM

He died one week after the star witness who testified against him commited "suicide". This can only be the work of ninjas

velik_m

03-12-2006, 03:47 AM

Too bad it was a heart condition and not something long and painful as cancer...

wow that's a lot of hate... what did he ever do to you?

zeleni

03-12-2006, 04:20 AM

I know something he done to Srebrenica.. and Slovenia's economy...and to Croatia, and offcourse to poor Serbia.

Damn, that was a good-doing fellow if I ever saw one.

R.I.P. Freeman Gentlefuck

(that would be a word-by-word translation of his name)

Slomo

03-12-2006, 04:22 AM

wow that's a lot of hate... what did he ever do to you?WTF? This is like asking why someone hates Hitler or Stalin. And just for the record he would have deserved to experience at least a fragment of the suffering he inflicted on others.

zeleni

03-12-2006, 04:27 AM

WTF? This is like asking why someone hates Hitler or Stalin. And just for the record he would have deserved to experience at least a fragment of the suffering he inflicted on others.

Hey, don't bring Stalin into this. Stalin is much worse, for he is a communist. And communists are about now the worst thing since since bread dipped in shit got served on the plate.

So Milosevic si now somewhere in the middle of Hitler and Stalin. Bless him.

Slomo

03-12-2006, 05:12 AM

Hey, don't bring Stalin into this. Stalin is much worse, for he is a communist. And communists are about now the worst thing since since bread dipped in shit got served on the plate.

So Milosevic si now somewhere in the middle of Hitler and Stalin. Bless him.Milosevic was the secretary general (leader) of the Serb Comunist Party before becoming president of Serbia (a post that could only be held by high ranking comunist officials). He was married to Mirjana Markovic one of the most influencial figures in the Serb Comunist party who is widely considered to be instrumental to Milosevic's rapid rise to power.

Although I agree Stalins body count is bigger, this two criminals come from the same school of thoughts.

zeleni

03-12-2006, 07:52 AM

Milosevic was the secretary general (leader) of the Serb Comunist Party before becoming president of Serbia (a post that could only be held by high ranking comunist officials). He was married to Mirjana Markovic one of the most influencial figures in the Serb Comunist party who is widely considered to be instrumental to Milosevic's rapid rise to power.

Although I agree Stalins body count is bigger, this two criminals come from the same school of thoughts.

I was kidding!

Milosevic is not a communist, he is a nationalist without any vision for Serbia. He disassebled a fictional federacy (Yugoslavia) with his expansionism. He killed socialism in Yugoslavia and replaced it with national states...an idea that existed just before the WWII.

He demolished the whole region. Yugoslavia had a bad economy. Now they have Srebrenica in the middle of Bosnia.

Vashner

03-12-2006, 03:57 PM

People don't care.. As long as Bush is the bad guy they can get there rocks off..

Forget that fact that he's taking out tugs and Saddam..

The enemy is Bush... Saddam and Milosevic.. hey they killed a few thousand in mass graves.. big deal.. Bush wanted to wiretap people!

Bush is the war criminal not Saddam, Milosevic and Hitler.

ChumpDumper

03-12-2006, 04:40 PM

If we don't care why did we post about it?

And you're the only guy who has brought up Bushie here.

So defensive....

MannyIsGod

03-12-2006, 07:23 PM

I was kidding!

Milosevic is not a communist, he is a nationalist without any vision for Serbia. He disassebled a fictional federacy (Yugoslavia) with his expansionism. He killed socialism in Yugoslavia and replaced it with national states...an idea that existed just before the WWII.

He demolished the whole region. Yugoslavia had a bad economy. Now they have Srebrenica in the middle of Bosnia.
You probably dont want to lecture a very intelligent Slovenianon Yugoslavian history.

Vashner

03-12-2006, 08:42 PM

Hey sorry to troll on your thread man I just wanted to make a point.

My air force is what took out Milosevic not peace protestors. The blood on my hands from the Combat Edge G force system when after the F15 E's drop a pickel and pull back 7 g's my bladder is pushing blood up into there heads. Yes I am an Amerikkan war criminal.

:)

ChumpDumper

03-12-2006, 09:00 PM

Actually, he lost an election and resigned in the face of the protests that resulted when he tried to sabotage the results and the loss of support of his army. Google "Bulldozer Revolution" after the meds wear off.

hendrix

03-12-2006, 10:19 PM

zeleni

03-13-2006, 04:02 AM

You probably dont want to lecture a very intelligent Slovenianon Yugoslavian history.

Inteligent history? There is no such thing...

Sec24Row7

03-13-2006, 11:45 AM

Interesting... Non prescribed drug found in his system...

Hook Dem

03-13-2006, 11:53 AM

Nbadan

03-13-2006, 03:18 PM

It now appears Milosevic's death needs further examination...

Milosevic died of heart attack, UN says, but questions remain

THE HAGUE (AFP) - Former Yugoslav leader Slobodan Milosevic died of a heart attack, the UN war crimes court said, but refused completely to rule out a poisoning theory as it prepared his body for release.

...

Earlier, Dutch NOS television reported that recent analyses had discovered "foreign substances" in Milosevic's blood. It said that they neutralized the effects of medication he was prescribed for blood pressure and heart problems.

Milosevic's legal advisor Zdenko Tomanovic said Sunday the former strongman had addressed a letter to the Russian foreign ministry saying he feared he was being poisoned after receiving a medical report indicating large amounts of a drug for tuberculosis or leprosy in his blood.

"Milosevic pointed out that during the last five years he had never used any such antibiotics, especially since he had never had leprosy or tuberculosis or any kind of infectious disease except for the flu," Tomanovic said.

...

Yahoo News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060313/wl_afp/warcrimesyugomilosevic;_ylt=AheTKLnpW7rLFjF1uGu8rV TGK7IF;_ylu=X3oDMTBjMHVqMTQ4BHNlYwN5bnN1YmNhdA--)

Nbadan

03-13-2006, 03:21 PM

Milosevic took wrong medicine to escape UN court: expert 32 minutes ago

THE HAGUE (AFP) - Slobodan Milosevic gave himself a drug that neutralised his heart medicine, an expert who examined his blood alleged as the former Yugoslav president's family pushed for a state funeral in his homeland.

"I am sure he took the medicine himself because he wanted a one-way ticket to Moscow" for treatment, Dutch toxicologist Donald Uges told AFP, a day after an official autopsy concluded Milosevic died of a heart attack.

"That is why he took rifampicin," he said, although he could not prove his claim.

Rifampicin is a powerful antibiotic used to treat leprosy or tuberculosis which Uges said countered the effects of Milosevic's heart medication.

The University of Groningen toxicologist said he had examined Milosevic's blood two weeks ago at the request of Dutch doctors who wanted to know why his blood pressure was not dropping despite medication.

Word is the Geneva trial of Milosevic was going about as smoothly as the U.S. trial of Zacarius Moussaoui.

Slomo

03-13-2006, 03:37 PM

Milosevic took wrong medicine to escape UN court: expert 32 minutes ago

Word is the Geneva trial of Milosevic was going about as smoothly as the U.S. trial of Zacarius Moussaoui.What Geneva trial?

And the escape through medicine theory seems to be the most popular right now. Just waiting for Milosevic's supporters spin.

Nbadan

03-13-2006, 03:39 PM

Just waiting for Milosevic's supporters spin.

What Milosevic supporters? He was an SOB, but even the devil deserves his day in court.

Nbadan

03-13-2006, 03:53 PM

..and don't take my word about the trial, watch the prosecution choke yourself. (http://hague.bard.edu/video.html)

Slomo

03-13-2006, 04:36 PM

What Milosevic supporters? He was an SOB, but even the devil deserves his day in court.I guess you don't get it in your news coverage but there have been quite a few people (mainly in Serbia) who are outraged by how he was treated and accusing the EU and US of killing him............

I'll bet you anything they'll spin it into a conspiracy (actually the weirdest rumour going around the Serbian internets right now is that he's nor really dead :lol )

Slomo

03-13-2006, 04:38 PM

..and don't take my word about the trial, watch the prosecution choke yourself. (http://hague.bard.edu/video.html)You mentioned the GENEVA trial - not the trial at the Hague (different city and different country) - I thought you were maybe refering to one of several international lawsuit that have been brought up against Serbia and Milosevic.

Nbadan

03-13-2006, 05:38 PM

(different city and different country)

Damn!!

That's what I get for taking Geography with Mr. Bennish. :pctoss

Speaking of which, this kid who filed the complaint against Bennish, Sean Allen sure seems to be sucking up on all the attention from the Rush and Insannity crowd..

http://extras.mnginteractive.com/live/media/site36/2006/0302/20060302_120622_ol02student1.jpg
I hope he's proud of his attack on Free Speech in the Classroom

MannyIsGod

03-13-2006, 06:16 PM

I forgot the word "on" in my previous post.

CosmicCowboy

08-02-2016, 10:18 AM

Damn. That's one of the antibiotics I take for my knee.

boutons_deux

08-02-2016, 10:30 AM

Damn. That's one of the antibiotics I take for my knee.

also, always research any antibiotic to see if it's ototoxic. I know lady whose life was "saved" but the antibiotics severely impaired her hearing, and damaged her semicircular canals so badly she can barely walk due to loss of balance. So now her "life" is damaged due to lack of mobility and withdrawal from social interactions due to near-deafness.

SpursforSix

08-02-2016, 11:05 AM

also, always research any antibiotic to see if it's ototoxic. I know lady whose life was "saved" but the antibiotics severely impaired her hearing, and damaged her semicircular canals so badly she can barely walk due to loss of balance. So now her "life" is damaged due to lack of mobility and withdrawal from social interactions due to near-deafness.

You have a link on that? I just finished 2 weeks of two different antibiotics and over the last couple of days, one of my ears periodically seems like it's clogged up.

boutons_deux

08-02-2016, 11:27 AM

You have a link on that? I just finished 2 weeks of two different antibiotics and over the last couple of days, one of my ears periodically seems like it's clogged up.

sounds like ototoxicity, temporary or permanent.

lots of hits for "antibiotics drugs ototoxicity"

and search "<your antibiotic> ototoxicity"

RandomGuy

08-19-2016, 03:34 PM

Here's another one.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/slobodan-milosevic-the-killing-of-an-innocent-man/5541534

I'm going to copy and paste it in case it goes off-line as sometimes happens.
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Slobodan Milosevic: The Killing of an Innocent Man

International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia in The Hague quietly acknowledged the innocence of former president of Serbia and Yugoslavia Slobodan Milosevic (http://www.pravdareport.com/world/europe/22-08-2011/118812-milosevic-0/). Ten years after the very suspicious death of the Serbian leader in a Dutch prison, the 1,300th page of the 2,000-page document on the case of Radovan Karadzic, the Bosnian Serb leader, acknowledged that Milosevic had not committed crimes against humanity, nor had he organized any mass killings or deportations of Croats and Bosnians. In other words, it was an innocent man who died in a UN prison. French journalist Dimitri De Koshko was working in Yugoslavia at the time of Milosevic’s arrest. Koshko was closely following the parody of the trial in The Hague. In an interview with Pravda.Ru, Dimitri De Koshko talked about circumstances of the possible murder of the Serbian leader in prison.Today, we are talking about the trial in The Hague that has seen its legal ending only now. Milosevic was posthumously and very quietly acquitted by the Tribunal.I’m a journalist and I can not judge on the legal side of the case, but I can assure you that a whole sea of lies was created to destroy Milosevic. His name was stained in the era of the Dayton Accords, in 1995, during Bill Clinton’s presidency. The American administration used to have its own approach to the problem. The US used to be most interested in Bosnia-Herzegovina and the three main ethnic groups that had entered into civil strife there, namely the Croats, the Bosnians and the Serbs. The massacre that erupted in that region was especially brutal.
http://pravda-team.ru/eng/image/article/6/4/6/58646.jpegAP photo

One can say that an entire ocean can be reflected in a drop of water. All elements of the Yugoslavian conflict (http://www.pravdareport.com/news/world/09-10-2001/33943-0/) could be found in the republic of Bosnia-Herzegovina. Milosevic was strongly opposed to the division of the territory.Milosevic continued to insist on his position even when he was taken into custody for the trial in The Hague, where he died ten years ago. It should be noted that he died under very strange circumstances.Without his knowledge, Milosevic was given a drug that neutralized the effect of the medicines against high blood pressure that the Serbian leader was taking. This is absurd, but the Dutch government refused to share details of Milosevic’s treatment. According to the data made available through Wikileaks, it turns out that the judges in The Hague were discussing details of Milosevic’s treatment with employees of the US Embassy in the Netherlands. This is a direct violation of medical confidentiality. It turns out that Milosevic did not know what medications he was taking in prison. All this is strange, to say the least.Ten years ago, Milosevic was charged with genocide against Albanians. He refused to acknowledge that he was involved in the crime. According to the Court, 250,000 Albanians were killed in Kosovo. FBI agents and agents from other, so-called Western democracies (http://www.pravdareport.com/world/americas/25-07-2016/135116-war_with_russia-0/), went to Kosovo to investigate. Those people found no traces of mass graves there. They did find the remains of Serbs and Roma tortured by the so-called Kosovo Liberation Army. The latter used to enjoy NATO’s full support at the time.Let us not forget that all those terrible events began with the bombings of Yugoslavia, at NATO’ own initiative. It turns out that Milosevic had not succumbed to the provocations. When the judges failed to prove Milosevic’s guilt, they switched to Bosnia. I must say here that Milosevic’s position was very different from that of Karadzic. Milosevic’s entire life was very closely connected with the principles of the so-called “Yugoslav socialism.” He had been following those principles in Yugoslavia and in his native land, Serbia. At that time, Serbia was the only republic of the former Yugoslavia, where there was no ethnic cleansing. This comes contrary to what my dear colleagues from Western publications were saying.Additionally, everyone ignores the fact that the Serbs were expelled from Krajina (Croatia) in a brutal way. I mean the crimes committed by pro-Croat Nazi gangs. By the way, they use the same techniques in the East of Ukraine now. It just so happens that the world will learn the truth about the current events in Ukraine in about a decade. The West, including Western media, used to be silent about Iraq and then about Libya. They did not say anything about the blatant crimes that were committed in Yugoslavia (http://www.pravdareport.com/world/europe/24-03-2009/107289-yugoslavia-0/).Milosevic was acquitted on the 1,303rd page of the document against former head of the Croatian Serbs, Radovan Karadzic. One needs to bear in mind the fact that the position of Milosevic was very different from that of Karadzic. Yet, the Western media was hysterically screaming about their common guilt. Western journalists used to call Milosevic another Hitler, but Milosevic had never built any form of dictatorship in his country. Yet, the journalists had to follow the mainstream, to build their careers. Independent journalists would be accused of working for Milosevic. Nowadays, they accuse us, independent journalists, of working for Putin.We saw the hanging of Saddam Hussein and then the lynching of Muammar Gaddafi. It appears that the crimes that the West has committed during the last 10-15 years were part of the plan to destabilize the state of affairs in the world.”We were all following the course of the USA. One should give then-French President Jacques Chirac credit for refusing to follow the Americans in Iraq. As for Gaddafi, he was a dictator, but he managed to reconcile different tribes in his country to ensure peaceful life for people.Now the USA is obsessed with the idea to topple Bashar Assad, who is a member of the Alawite minority. Assad is the key to the rights of minorities in Syria, even though his rule does have certain dictatorial traits.Now the West has to deal with refugees from Somalia, Ethiopia, Eritrea, a whole region of central Africa and Afghanistan. These days, we can see the Western media demonizing Russia, just like they were demonizing Milosevic and Serbia.

Is there any bit of propaganda you *don't* swallow, hook, line and sinker?

FuzzyLumpkins

08-20-2016, 05:09 PM

An objective person has neither an a priori incredulity, nor a naive willingness to believe. I've been reading your posts for years and you have an a priori incredulity when you see alternative info and a naive willingness to believe when you see the official version of things. Actually, I think you privately believe the alternative version too but you're a paid sophist* trying to discredit the alternative version.

I think the alternative version makes more sense so if I had to stake my life on which version reflected reality, I'd go with the alternative version; the mainstream press has no credibility. Read the info on mainstream sources here.
http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=37&p=4731597&viewfull=1#post4731597

It's still second-hand info though so I haven't taken a rock-solid stand; I can change my stand if some new info comes up from a credible source.

I watched these two videos a few years ago. They help put things in perspective so they can be understood. If you just watch and read the official US version, it's just confusing but somehow we're the good guys.

The Weight of Chains | Težina lanaca (2010)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=waEYQ46gH08

TalkingStickTV - Michael Parenti - The U.S. War on Yugoslavia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEzOgpMWnVs

I've only watched the first few minutes of this one but it looks promising. It's by the same person who did the first above one; that's why I'm posting it without having watched all of it.

Kosovo: Can You Imagine? | Boris Malagurski (2009)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nHWsWOgtiw

*
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nHWsWOgtiw)http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html
(http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html)https://cultureofawareness.com/2012/09/26/disinformation-campaign-exposure-confessions-of-a-paid-disinformation-poster/
(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nHWsWOgtiw)

Nobody watches your youtubes or reads your walls of text.