Wizards up against detroit

[Spurologist]

by 10. 4:44 second quarter. Don't hold your breath though.

[jochhejaam]

Still down 6 at the half.
Delk with 12 first half points.

[Dunc]

Delk is on fire. 12 points in 9 minutes in the 2nd. Strange to get that kind of help from the bench, lol.

[Dunc]

Did something happen to Tay? Why did he only play 7 minutes in the first half? Of all games for him not to get minutes, it's gotta be one where he's playing well, lol.

[FreshPrince22]

Wizards are on fire. 7 of 11 from three point range. Arenas and Butler aren't missing from the perimeter. Tony Delk is saving our asses. This guy is going to be a beast once he learns the system.

[SlasherX]

Bench is playing great, so flip decided to stay with bench for once.

[FreshPrince22]

Did something happen to Tay? Why did he only play 7 minutes in the first half? Of all games for him not to get minutes, it's gotta be one where he's playing well, lol.


He played 12 minutes.

[DarkReign]

Only down by 6.

IMO, the Wiz cannot keep this shooting% this high. Its pretty sick to watch. They are just making everything.

[jochhejaam]

He played 12 minutes.
ESPN Boxscore shows 7 mins played for Tay but their stats are off at times.

Pistons hit 22-38 fg's and still down by 6

[FreshPrince22]

ESPN Boxscore shows 7 mins played for Tay but their stats are off at times.

Pistons hit 22-38 fg's and still down by 6

Yea, it's gotta be off. Delfino came in for Tayshaun at the break between quarters. Then Mo came in for Delfino after 6 minutes or so. Not sure why Mo played at all though. Delfino was playing solid and so was Tayshaun. Mo doesn't have the best Bball IQ. Commiting stupid touch fouls when they're in the penalty, biting on every pump-fake. If he's not shooting the 3 well or dunking, he's not doing much out there at all.

[Dunc]

He played 12 minutes.

Ok, sounds a little better. I didn't listen to all of the first quarter, and the Yahoo Gamechannel had the wrong number. Kinda nice Flip kept the bench rolling in there.

[Marklar MM]

ESPN Boxscore shows 7 mins played for Tay but their stats are off at times.

Pistons hit 22-38 fg's and still down by 6
NBA.com has the worst in game box score stats.

[Dunc]

NBA.com has the worst in game box score stats.

Yeah, that's why I use Yahoo. They're usually pretty good.

[FreshPrince22]

OK... If the Wizards are gonna make those shots everynight, they will be champs. :lol Wiz are 9 of 13 from three point range

[1Parker1]

:lol Great...sounds like another pre-jinxing game thread!!!

[Dunc]

They're starting to play like us. Take every open 3, lol. If they keep staying out, watch out. They'll be in trouble :D

[reader]

All-Star Arenas feels snubbed by Flip

Steve Aschburner, Star Tribune

Check out Gilbert Arenas' stats line in the Washington Wizards' boxscore against Detroit Saturday night. If it was big, this might explain why.

Arenas, a member of the Eastern Conference All-Star squad last month in Houston, apparently took it very personal when coach Flip Saunders played him for only 9 minutes, 51 seconds in the showcase game. Arenas scored one point, missing all four of his shots.

So now the Wizards guard has a vendetta against Saunders and the Pistons.

Saunders has shrugged off the sore feelings, noting that the East squad was heavy with guards and that one of his Pistons, Richard (Rip) Hamilton, logged only 13 minutes.

"Maybe Rip doesn't want to play for me anymore, I don't know," Saunders said.

http://www.startribune.com/511/story/299682.html

[Spurologist]

Arenas is the self proclaimed "Eastern Conference Assasin" because of the all star snub

[FreshPrince22]

More threes from the Wizards. 11 of 17.

Antonio Daniels is a 17% shooter from there and he is 2 of 2. son of a bitch...

[Dunc]

Lol, this is ridiculous!! Everybody and their mother are hitting 3s right now!

[Marklar MM]

Lol, this is ridiculous!! Everybody and their mother are hitting 3s right now!

Pistons should throw in Delk...he is the only one who could hit a three. He could join the 3 point barrage of the Wizards.

[Spurologist]

Pistons look like school girls out there and Billups hits a 3.

[efrem1]

There is hope for HCA yet!

[Dunc]

Pistons should throw in Delk...he is the only one who could hit a three. He could join the 3 point barrage of the Wizards.

Nah, we don't need 3s. We just need to beat em up down low. Their 3s will stop falling, and if they don't, it won't matter anyway, lol.

[Spurologist]

I think picking up Delk is probably the worst/only bad decision Joe Dumars has made. Detroit goes from being a great defensive team to simply average.

[Dunc]

I think picking up Delk is probably the worst/only bad decision Joe Dumars has made. Detroit goes from being a great defensive team to simply average.

Because of the addition of a backup guard? Explain please.

87-76 Whiz

[FreshPrince22]

Another three. Career high in threes made for Butler.

[Spurologist]

Tayshaun's a bitch. He gets the ball stolen from him and shoves Butler out of the way. Foul on Butler. Go figure.

[Marklar MM]

Tayshaun's a bitch. He gets the ball stolen from him and shoves Butler out of the way. Foul on Butler. Go figure.


I don't think they called a foul on Butler. Out of bounds.

[FreshPrince22]

I think picking up Delk is probably the worst/only bad decision Joe Dumars has made. Detroit goes from being a great defensive team to simply average.

Delk's D is very good. Miles better than Arroyo. Arroyo is one of the worst defenders in the league.

[FreshPrince22]

Tayshaun's a bitch. He gets the ball stolen from him and shoves Butler out of the way. Foul on Butler. Go figure.

There was no foul but.... 1st, Butler smacked his arm stealing it, and 2nd, Butler flopped.

[Spurologist]

Delk's D is very good. Miles better than Arroyo. Arroyo is one of the worst defenders in the league.

My eyes must be deceiving me then. Over-rated? He must have lost a step or two.

[ABDENOUR POWER]

This is ridiculous.

[Marklar MM]

My eyes must be deceiving me then. Over-rated? He must have lost a step or two.


This whole team must suck at defense the way Washington is scoring.

[Spurologist]

There was no foul but.... 1st, Butler smacked his arm stealing it, and 2nd, Butler flopped.

So when elbow is locked in and extends to move the opposing player, it's a flop on the other player. Please. The ball rightly out of bounds as you say. No need to shove. Ball ball.

[Spurologist]

For pistons watching the game. RIP just made sportscenter

[Dunc]

Well, I wouldn't wanna be Charlotte tomorrow, lol.

[Spurologist]

Well, I wouldn't wanna be Charlotte tomorrow, lol.

:lol The game is over before it even starts.

[Dunc]

Am I a bad fan if I stop listening to this game and go watch the Red Wings? Lol

[JamStone]

Wizards are awesome when they're hitting their outside shot.

Serious butt-whipping on the Pistons.

[Marklar MM]

For pistons watching the game. RIP just made sportscenter

:) He really broke his ankles...not.

Although ESPN will probably show this so called "Ankle Break", which was actually Rip sliding on the floor to recover to his man who changed direction.

[Marklar MM]

Am I a bad fan if I stop listening to this game and go watch the Red Wings? Lol

Fuck no. The Wings will probably win that game.

[Dunc]

Red Wings time.

[smeagol]

At the beginning of the season we were blown away by a Wizards team that simply could not miss.

It happens.

If DET loses, our mishap with the LAL will hurt even more.

[FreshPrince22]

My eyes must be deceiving me then. Over-rated? He must have lost a step or two.

It's Gilbert Arenas. He makes everyone look like a bad defender. I seem to remember him absolutely lighting up the Spurs earlier in the year. Scoring 43 points on 15 of 20 FGs.

[spursparker9]

100-82 wizards lead. 8 min to go

[DarkReign]

Well, I am not one to panic, but this is 3 games in a row where the Pistons have been severly outplayed. Some would like to blame the Wiz's hot shooting.

Me? I blame this pathetic excuse for a defense. Arenas drives uncontested to lane for 3 dunks. Tom "Im scrubbin it up" Thomas is slashing past our bigs for reverse layups regularly. Finally, Caron Butler is a fucking all-star tonight.

Im so sick and fucking tired of hearing this bullshit about teams having an anomoly game. No, the Pistons are slipping. Slipping badly. Slipping ugly.

They went from one of the best teams I have ever seen play, to an above average team. Not great, just above average.

Man, I hope they can 'flip the switch' for the playoffs. If they dont, Im serious when I say....Fire Flip. He rode the backs of these players all season. Now that they have hit a funk, its on the coach to get em out of it. So far, he is failing miserably.

[1Parker1]

Damn, Wiz have 100 points already and there's still 8 minutes left in the 4th.

Stupid Spurs...if they hadn't lost a lot of the gimme games this season, they could have beat out the Pistons for HCA! The loss to the Lakers and Clipps is even more magnified now that the Pistons appear to have lost tonight :(

[Pistons < Spurs]

Pistons suck. Time to trade Ben and Chauncey.


:rolleyes

Oh well. A little discouraging to see this tonight. But give credit to the Wizards. They came to play, and we didn't.

8:00 minutes left...anything can still happen :rolleyes LOL probably not. This one's over!

[Spurologist]

It's Gilbert Arenas. He makes everyone look like a bad defender. I seem to remember him absolutely lighting up the Spurs earlier in the year. Scoring 43 points on 15 of 20 FGs.

Last year he shot like 15% or something against the spurs. Yes, when Arenas is on, he's unguardable. However, Delk is gambling way too much and not moving his feet like a good defender.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Where is Ben tonight? In the first half, he had 0 rebounds.....

as of now, he only has 4.

[Marklar MM]

I wish we could untrade Darko right now. He could probably pick up 5 fouls for the rest of the game and get a few boards, maybe a couple points like he use to do for us.

[1Parker1]

Well, I am not one to panic, but this is 3 games in a row where the Pistons have been severly outplayed. Some would like to blame the Wiz's hot shooting.

Me? I blame this pathetic excuse for a defense. Arenas drives uncontested to lane for 3 dunks. Tom "Im scrubbin it up" Thomas is slashing past our bigs for reverse layups regularly. Finally, Caron Butler is a fucking all-star tonight.

Im so sick and fucking tired of hearing this bullshit about teams having an anomoly game. No, the Pistons are slipping. Slipping badly. Slipping ugly.

They went from one of the best teams I have ever seen play, to an above average team. Not great, just above average.

Man, I hope they can 'flip the switch' for the playoffs. If they dont, Im serious when I say....Fire Flip. He rode the backs of these players all season. Now that they have hit a funk, its on the coach to get em out of it. So far, he is failing miserably.

:lol The Pistons have not "turned off" anything like you said. I've said it earlier and I'll say it again. Pistons success in the first half of the season was magnified by the awesome play of Rip Hamilton and Chauncey Billups...however what Flip failed to do when he "opened up" the Pistons new found offense...was that he hasn't tried to include guys like Tayshaun Prince, McDyess, and even Rasheed into that offensive flow. That's why when either Rip or Billups has a bad game, the rest of the team suffers. Prince, especially, suffered from this.

[spursparker9]

105-84 wizards lead...look its over!

[DarkReign]

what...a...fucking....joke (or choke)

[Spurologist]

wow. I have never seen the pistons get out worked this badly. Charlotte is going to need divine intervention to even lose by 10.

[FreshPrince22]

The best part about getting blown out. MAXIELL TIME!

[Marklar MM]

The best part about getting blown out. MAXIELL TIME!

This use to be Darko's time to shine. :(

[1Parker1]

The best part about getting blown out. MAXIELL TIME!

:lol Formerly known as DARKO TIME!

[DarkReign]

Im out. Game over. Thank God we have the Red Wings. At least they round into form late in the season, not in October when it doesnt make a bit of fucking difference.

[Pistons < Spurs]

MAXIELL w/ a TO!!!!!! YAY!!!!!

[FreshPrince22]

Arenas in against the end of our bench to inflate his stats. YAY!

[Pistons < Spurs]

time to listen to the Florida / Fayetteville game and see how the rooks are doing in the NBDL.

[picnroll]

Pistons pull a Spurs vs LA aginst the Wiz tonight. Nights like these you wonder if the Spurs or Pistons will eithr get a wiff of the finals.

[Spurologist]

Arenas in against the end of our bench to inflate his stats. YAY!

It's more like to rub it in Flip's face for the all star snub. Did you that dance or whatever the hell that dance was. That's probably a clue.

[1Parker1]

Pistons pull a Spurs vs LA aginst the Wiz tonight. Nights like these you wonder if the Spurs or Pistons will eithr get a wiff of the finals.

:lol Very true.

Oh well, it's nice to know that the Pistons have some chinks in their armor and aren't quite as unbeatable as they looked earlier in the season. Like someone else said, I almost feel bad for whoever the Pistons play next...I predict an ass whooping. Just like I predict an ass-whooping of the Rockets tommorow :)

[JamStone]

Teams can look great when they're hitting their shots. Wizards definitely played better. But, it became a blowout when they started hitting everything they threw up at the net. Disappointing loss for the Pistons, but great shooting by the Wizards, Arenas and Butler especially.

[Pistons < Spurs]

Ben Wallace:
32 minutes 4 rebounds 2 assists 3 points 0 steals 0 blocks


I think it's time for his wife to remind him once again that he needs to bring it!

[picnroll]

Teams can look great when they're hitting their shots. Wizards definitely played better. But, it became a blowout when they started hitting everything they threw up at the net.
Yeah, but it was in part the Pistons unreal outside shooting early in the year that made them look invicible. Now their shooting has fallen back closer to earth.

[efrem1]

:lol Very true.

Oh well, it's nice to know that the Pistons have some chinks in their armor and aren't quite as unbeatable as they looked earlier in the season. Like someone else said, I almost feel bad for whoever the Pistons play next...I predict an ass whooping. Just like I predict an ass-whooping of the Rockets tommorow :)

With McGrady out for five weeks, both the Spurs and Pistons should win manana. It's a banker.

[Spurologist]

Yeah, but it was in part the Pistons unreal outside shooting early in the year that made them look invicible. Now their shooting has fallen back closer to earth.

Good point. Tonight, almost everything the pistons threw up was a jump shot. Their only majority inside player had 3 pts and 4 rbds. Sheed and Hamilton are often useless out there without their jump shot.

[JamStone]

Yeah, but it was in part the Pistons unreal outside shooting early in the year that made them look invicible. Now their shooting has fallen back closer to earth.


I'll give slightly more credibility to 40 games worth of unreal outside shooting than a few games here and there of unbelievable outside shooting.

[Pistons < Spurs]

With McGrady out for five weeks, both the Spurs and Pistons should win manana. It's a banker.


Yep!!!

I'm looking forward to those Vbookies!!! :spin

[T.F. Storm]

Well this was thoroughly embarrassing.

[Spurologist]

Well this was thoroughly embarrassing.

Are you saying there wasn't much of this going on

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8028/pistons4rm.jpg

[T.F. Storm]

It's more like to rub it in Flip's face for the all star snub. Did you that dance or whatever the hell that dance was. That's probably a clue.

I wonder what it feels like to get pumped up at a regular season game? :spin

[Solid D]

Spurs can relate. Remember Arenas going nuts against the Spurs in Washington this season? He was just throwing stuff up and hitting it without conscience. That was also one of Timmy's worst (maybe softest) games ever.

[T.F. Storm]

Are you saying there wasn't much of this going on

http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/8028/pistons4rm.jpg

...Well atleast the Bench got to play.

[Spurologist]

I wonder what it feels like to get pumped up at a regular season game? :spin

Try being the fan the that threw his drink at Artest during the brawl. I mean being Artest.

[Marklar MM]

Try being the fan the that threw his drink at Artest during the brawl. I mean being Artest.

Jackson was the one playing Fight Night Round 3.

[FreshPrince22]

Good point. Tonight, almost everything the pistons threw up was a jump shot. Their only majority inside player had 3 pts and 4 rbds. Sheed and Hamilton are often useless out there without their jump shot.


The Pistons actually outscored the Wizards in the paint. The Pistons lost solely because the Wizards were shooting ball extremely well from the perimeter (even on very well contested shots), and the Pistons got a little sloppy with TOs. The Pistons have a tendancy to let their opponent get comfortable offensively in the first few minutes, and sometimes it lets them get into a rhythm. They have done this for the last couple years, but it has been pretty bad since the Denver game.

[Spurologist]

The Pistons actually outscored the Wizards in the paint.

When the scrubs came in, all the Wiz did was shot outside shots

[FreshPrince22]

When the scrubs came in, all the Wiz did was shot outside shots

That may be true, but the Pistons didn't score in the paint in garbage time either. In fact, the Wizards scored the only 2 paint-points in garbage time at the 7:13 minute mark. It's pretty obvious to watch the game and see this was dominated by the Wizards perimeter shooting. 12 made threes... ball game right there.

[zero signal]

Jackson was the one playing Fight Night Round 3.
Yep, there probably wouldn't have been a brawl if SJax hadn't come in like Scorpion off a teleport... http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smiembarassed.gif

[cs100]

--it happens. :wow

[Spurologist]

That may be true, but the Pistons didn't score in the paint in garbage time either. In fact, the Wizards scored the only 2 paint-points in garbage time at the 7:13 minute mark. It's pretty obvious to watch the game and see this was dominated by the Wizards perimeter shooting. 12 made threes... ball game right there.


--it happens. :wow