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03-13-2006, 02:09 PM
March 13, 2006
Pharmacists Say Drug Plan Threatens Their Income

By ROBERT PEAR (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/p/robert_pear/index.html?inline=nyt-per)
WASHINGTON, March 12 — Pharmacists say they have been losing money under Medicare's new prescription drug benefit, and they have taken their concerns to the White House, forcing the administration to confront political problems caused by the rocky start of the program.

In a meeting last week with Karl Rove (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/karl_rove/index.html?inline=nyt-per), the president's senior adviser, the druggists said many independent pharmacies might have to shut their doors because they were not being paid adequately or promptly under Medicare. In the last two months, they said, pharmacists have given away millions of dollars' worth of medications for which Medicare drug plans should have paid.

The pharmacists who visited the White House were all from Texas. Several have close ties to Mr. Rove and President Bush. But their concerns are shared by retail pharmacists across the country, who said that Medicare drug plans were paying them less than it cost to fill prescriptions for the beneficiaries.

Bill C. Pittman, a former president of the Texas State Board of Pharmacy who is chairman of Pharmacists for Bush, a political fund-raising group, arranged the meeting, held on Monday at the White House.

Richard E. Beck, one of the Texas pharmacists who met with Mr. Rove, said, "Pharmacies are losing money on Medicare." Slow payment by Medicare drug plans has caused cash-flow problems for many pharmacies, he said.

Mr. Pittman said he told Mr. Rove and other officials: "If pharmacists don't receive immediate relief, some will go broke. Others are hurting so bad that they will choose not to participate in Medicare and Medicaid."

Mr. Bush has described the drug benefit as "the greatest advance in health care for seniors since the founding of Medicare" in 1965. Administration officials said beneficiaries were saving large amounts of money because prescription drug plans had negotiated deep discounts with drug makers and pharmacies.

The new benefit is delivered by private health plans subsidized by Medicare. The drug plans have contracts with pharmacies. Medicare officials said they would help pharmacists enforce the terms of these contracts. But pharmacists said this was not enough because insurers typically offered the contracts on a "take it or leave it" basis.

The pharmacists underscored the political significance of their concerns in a report presented to Mr. Rove and Allan B. Hubbard, assistant to the president for economic policy.

"Most independent community pharmacists are small-business Republicans," the report said. "Pharmacists want to be supportive of this administration, and they can play an active role in the midterm elections. But pharmacists need to be able to point to some corrective actions being taken by the administration."

Trent D. Duffy, a White House spokesman, said: "From our perspective, it was a positive, productive meeting. We want to understand the concerns of pharmacists. They play a critical role in delivery of the drug benefit. At the same time, we want to make sure that seniors are getting the best possible deal."

As of mid-February, 342,000 people had enrolled in prescription drug plans in Texas, more than in any other state. An additional 230,000 Texans were in Medicare plans that covered drugs along with hospital care and doctors' services.

Even as pharmacists take on new duties under Medicare, they are discovering that they will be paid less than they now receive under Medicaid, the program sponsored by federal and state governments for low-income people.

In February 2005, Mr. Bush proposed significant cuts in Medicaid payments to pharmacies. Many of those cuts were included in a deficit reduction bill that he signed into law last month. In his 2007 budget, he proposed further cuts.

Critics called the cuts immoral. Mr. Bush replied, "It's not immoral to make sure that prescription drug pharmacists don't overcharge the system." His comment, in Manchester, N.H., on Feb. 8 this year, infuriated many pharmacists because it seemed to suggest that they were cheating the government.

In a letter to the president, James L. Martin, executive director of the Texas Pharmacy Association, said, "It has become obvious that you and your advisers do not understand the profession of pharmacy."

Druggists said they had no discretion in deciding how much to charge patients under Medicare and Medicaid. Those decisions are made by Medicare drug plans and state Medicaid programs, they said.

Mr. Martin, one of the pharmacists who met with Mr. Rove, said Mr. Bush's comment was particularly galling to pharmacists because they had "bailed out the Medicare prescription drug program" in its first weeks.

Pharmacists helped hundreds of thousands of people sort through scores of prescription drug plans. They filled millions of prescriptions even though they could not get the information needed to verify eligibility.

Michael O. Leavitt (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/l/michael_o_leavitt/index.html?inline=nyt-per), the secretary of health and human services, said pharmacists' efforts had been "nothing short of heroic." In the first month of the Medicare drug program, he said, many pharmacists provided "three-to-five-day supplies of medicines to beneficiaries without payment."

In an e-mail message to Mr. Rove on Feb. 13, Mr. Beck wrote, "I have been a loyal Republican for a long time." But he said pharmacists were "distraught that a Republican president would attack our profession."

Mr. Beck, who is vice president of American Pharmacies, a purchasing co-op based in San Antonio, said the first six weeks of the new Medicare program had been "a total fiasco" for many pharmacists. "I have some members on the brink of going out of business," he said.

In an e-mail response, Mr. Rove said: "The president was not attacking pharmacists and pharmacies. He was responding to the Democrat leader of the Senate who called the Medicaid reforms 'immoral.' "


( .. by saying the problem dubya was attacking was the cheating and overcharging by pharmacists. Rove is a fucking liar. )

Pharmacists said that Medicare drug plans were paying them less than Medicaid and commercial insurers paid for the same services.

In an interview, Mr. Beck said: "Reimbursement by Medicare drug plans is very low and slow. Pharmacists are being asked to bankroll the program. Many have to dig into personal savings and take out loans to stay in business."

Medicaid and commercial insurers pay pharmacies 7 to 15 days after a prescription is filled, but Medicare drug plans often take 30 days or more, Mr. Beck said.

Dr. Mark B. McClellan, administrator of the federal Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services, said he thought the cash-flow problems had been resolved, but he promised to investigate any complaints.

The pharmacists offered several recommendations to the White House. They said the government should require prompt payment, by electronic transfer, every week or 10 days. They said Medicare should give pharmacists a financial incentive to dispense low-cost generic drugs rather than brand-name medications.

And they said Medicare drug plans should not be allowed to advertise a specific drugstore company on their member identification cards. Such "co-branding arrangements" confuse beneficiaries by suggesting they cannot use other drugstores, the pharmacists said.

"You don't have advertising on a Social Security card," said Marvin D. Shepherd, a professor at the College of Pharmacy at the University of Texas, who attended the White House meeting. "Why would you have advertising on Medicare prescription drug cards?"

( ... because Repug priority is corporate welfare and payback, not running govt efficiently and fairly)




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101A
03-13-2006, 02:17 PM
What the govt. touches, the govt. breaks.

Doctors have been griping about medicare reimbursements for years. Why should this surprise anyone?

Oh, Gee!!
03-13-2006, 04:37 PM
What the govt. touches, the govt. breaks.

is that the new KKK rally cry? It's catchy.

Peter
03-13-2006, 05:09 PM
It's inevitable. If you want the government in command of a greater portion of the health care industry then there are going to be more instances of providers getting the shaft. So then pharmacists, nurses, surgeons, etc....will have less lucrative careers and those who would follow them have less of a reason to undergo the years of study and (relatively) low incomes required. Brilliant, I guess, if you are in favor of talented people opting for something other than medicine.

xrayzebra
03-13-2006, 05:59 PM
Oh Darn, I thought I told Bush to stay in bed and sleep this morning. Heck,
everyone knows he is always wrong when he wakes up every day. Just look
at all those tornados he caused in just the last few days and not a bottle
of FEMA water or MRE in sight. What are we to do?

xrayzebra
03-13-2006, 07:46 PM
Part D is either a horrible, ill-planned, and foolish attempt to privatize some former medicare programs

or else Plan D is designed to be a ginormous kickback to insurance companies and wealthy individuals alike, in the guise of privatization

Your government at work. Would you really prefer that the government
be in charge of all the medicines. And Medicare rules are made up entirely
of government agencies. No part of it has been privatize to my knowledge.

Part D is administered by the government, the private companies only
provide what is allowed under their rules. It is a mess, like anything
else the good government comes up with..

Nbadan
03-14-2006, 01:28 PM
Your government at work. Would you really prefer that the government
be in charge of all the medicines. And Medicare rules are made up entirely
of government agencies. No part of it has been privatize to my knowledge.

Part D is administered by the government, the private companies only
provide what is allowed under their rules. It is a mess, like anything
else the good government comes up with..

:lol

That's the Conservative fall-back to all of government ills. Oh well, see, it's the whole process that's wrong, it's not the policy or the people responsible for implementing said bone-head legislation.

:rolleyes

ChumpDumper
03-14-2006, 02:16 PM
So the Republican-led government that passed this law is to blame?

Peter
03-14-2006, 02:29 PM
So the Republican-led government that passed this law is to blame?

Indeed.

Nbadan
03-14-2006, 02:29 PM
So the Republican-led government that passed this law is to blame?

Umm..yeah. Like the new bankruptcy laws, our dear legislators let the Pharmacutical industry basically, write it's own check, by 'co-authoring' the new medicare/medicade prescription plans. Not that anybody cares or we would vote these corporate shills the hell out of Washington. You get the government you deserve.

Peter
03-14-2006, 02:29 PM
:lol

That's the Conservative fall-back to all of government ills. Oh well, see, it's the whole process that's wrong, it's not the policy or the people responsible for implementing said bone-head legislation.

:rolleyes


Perhaps the policy could never be perfected...

Nbadan
03-14-2006, 02:33 PM
Perhaps the policy could never be perfected...

Of course not, there is always going to be fraud and waste in any program, government sponsored or not, but you try and make programs as easy, as efficient and effective as possible, none of which the new prescription drug plan does for seniors.

Peter
03-14-2006, 02:39 PM
Of course not, there is always going to be fraud and waste in any program, government sponsored or not, but you try and make programs as easy, as efficient and effective as possible, none of which the new prescription drug plan does for seniors.


Yeah, maybe the government shouldn't be involved...

RandomGuy
03-14-2006, 08:28 PM
I am no big fan of the grab-ass in chief, but honestly, I don't think any president could have gotten this reform accomplished withoug *somebody* bitching about it.

Not that I am defending him, but I am inclined to accept a certain amount of grumbling over any reform that happened.

That said, I have seen aspects of this plan's execution that have simply added to the steaming pile of mismanagement that this administration has performed during its tragicomic tenure.

xrayzebra
03-14-2006, 09:26 PM
Cynthia Sinatra told me that her parents Love the new Part D


New poll out says that 80 percent of people who are eligible love the
program. They have had no problems with it. See the article below.

Most Medicare Drug Enrollees Already Saving
More Than 80 percent Say No Problems Using New Benefits


WASHINGTON, March 13 /PRNewswire/ -- Ten weeks after the start of the new Medicare drug benefit, six out of 10 seniors who voluntarily signed up for the program say they already are saving money and more than eight out of 10 report having no problems related to enrollment or usage of their new benefits, a new survey released today found.

"When you get out of Washington and listen to seniors, you learn that seniors are saving and that the vast majority are not experiencing problems," said Karen Ignagni, President and CEO of America's Health Insurance Plans (AHIP).

Conducted by Ayres, McHenry & Associates on behalf of AHIP, the survey also shows that seniors are feeling increasingly positive as they experience the new program.

The poll found that 65 percent of enrolled seniors say they would recommend that other seniors sign up for the program, versus eight percent who say they would not. A similar survey conducted in December before the benefit went into effect found that 56 percent of enrolled seniors would recommend that other seniors sign up.

Two-thirds of enrolled seniors now say their new benefits are worth the time and effort they spent evaluating the various drug plans, up from 57 percent in December's poll.

The poll found that 59 percent of enrollees say they are already saving money each month because of the new benefit, while 23 percent say they are not. December's poll found that 51 percent expected to save money. The survey found that eight out of ten seniors say the program covers the drugs they need.

"After the deluge of media stories reporting problems with the Medicare prescription drug benefit, it is stunning to see the high percentage of seniors who report having no significant problems," said Dr. Q. Whitfield Ayres, President of Ayres, McHenry & Associates.

Eighty-four percent of seniors say they experienced no problems signing up for the program. Five percent say they have an unresolved problem related to enrollment.

Eighty-five percent of seniors say they have experienced no problems using their new benefits. Five percent say they have an unresolved problem related to using their benefits.

Three percent of seniors say they had a problem both in signing up for and using their new benefits.

"While these data are of little comfort to any senior who has experienced a problem, they do put the scope of the issue in perspective," said Ignagni. "Our community's job is to work collaboratively with beneficiaries, pharmacies, physicians and advocacy organizations to resolve any remaining transition issues."

The poll also found skepticism about the motives behind attacks on the Medicare drug benefit and an emerging concern that these attacks may discourage seniors from enrolling. Enrollees by a three-to-one margin say that politicians' criticisms of the Medicare drug plan are motivated by a desire to score political points, rather than a sincere interest in fixing the program. Forty-one percent of enrollees say political attacks make seniors less likely to sign up for the program.

The survey of 408 seniors who have signed up for the Medicare drug benefit was conducted March 6-9, 2006 and has a margin of error of plus-or-minus 4.85 percent.

To view the full survey and a memo summarizing the results, please visit http://www.ahip.org/.