Oberto has been a dissapointment.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Yes, it's his first year.

Yes, he's still adjusting.

Yes, he plays with some heart.



But damn, I was hoping he'd ruffle some feathers. Somebody tell him to stop smiling all the damn and start elbowing somebody. Seems he's content to have just made it to the league. Wasn't he like an enforcer on the Argentina suquad?

God damn. Get a flagrant foul.

[Trainwreck2100]

He's 30 and he's a 6'7 center, he ain't going to start anytime soon.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

He's 30 and he's a 6'7 center, he ain't going to start anytime soon.

Who cares if he starts?

I want him to be a Will Perdue. Perdue would get under people's skin at least.

[Dre_7]

Hes a 30 year old undrafted free agent pickup. What? Were you expecting the next DRob or somethin?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Hes a 30 year old undrafted free agent pickup. What? Were you expecting the next DRob or somethin?

No.

But not the next Darko.

[Kori Ellis]

I didn't really expect him to get much playing time at all .. and he hasn't.

I'm not sure he was really an "enforcer" with Argentina.

[Dre_7]

I remember when people were saying he would be starting by midseason. :lol

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I didn't really expect him to get much playing time at all .. and he hasn't.

I'm not sure he was really an "enforcer" with Argentina.

Enforcer isn't the right word, but he was probably the most physical on that team.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I remember when people were saying he would be starting by midseason. :lol

Lmao.

He will never start. But somebody get him some Malik Rose tutoring, or Kevin Willis. Something!

[Kori Ellis]

I remember when people were saying he would be starting by midseason. :lol

Some people said that but not because he's that talented. They expected Rasho would be traded by now and said they'd hide Nazr on the bench to keep his value down. I never bought that theory but I can see their logic.

[Peter]

My how one's defense slides when they aren't playing on a court with a trapezoid...

[Trainwreck2100]

Lmao.

He will never start. But somebody get him some Malik Rose tutoring, or Kevin Willis. Something!

Unless he gets on the juice and puts on like 60 pounds he ain't gonna be no Kevin Willis.

[BigVee]

A lot of it is a matter of playing time. When he has been out there for more than a minute or two he has done some good things.

[leemajors]

when he gets pt he is quite good at tipping out offensive boards, and sets good picks. more run would be nice, but you can't complain with our record.

[cheguevara]

My how one's defense slides when they aren't playing on a court with a trapezoid...

mmm try again. Oberto was never a good defender.

on the other hand look at Delfino, Nocioni and Manu, all above average defenders here in the NBA.

Oberto hasn't got enough playing time. But when he's on the floor, he does some things.

[Dre_7]

Oberto will be a bench player for the rest of his career.

[Dre_7]

Lemme fix that, he should be a bench player. But you never know. I mean Shawn Bradley was a starter at one point. :lol

[Please_dont_ban_me]

That kid for the Cav, what's his name...pendejo or something rather.

I wish Oberto would play more like him. Minus the backing down like a bitch and looking the other way pretending you don't see Zo staring down your ass trying to send a message.

[Solid D]

I didn't expect Oberto to be the starting center but I expected him to play more and contribute more defensively. He's not 6'7" but I think you were exaggerating, Trainwreck. He's between 6'9" and 6'10".

He is very basketball savvy, and that was not a surprise. He has had a few games where he was really good and he made a big difference in the flow of the game. His shot is very flat. That has been a disappointment. He also cannot jump very well.

On the positive side - his hands, screening and passing are better than average and his anticipation and hustle are excellent. He is a much better offensive boards guy (incl. tip-outs to save trips) than I thought he would be at the NBA level.

I can see him getting a little more physical lately but he still struggles against bigger post players and he doesn't take charges...plus he has no ref respect whatsoever.

Fabri has so many more intangibles than Sean Marks and can play defense much better, but what Kiwi can bring is he can light it up from the outside with instant offense...not to mention some decent hops.

One of them will not make the playoff roster, unless there is an injury.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Lemme fix that, he should be a bench player. But you never know. I mean Shawn Bradley was a starter at one point. :lol

Bradley isn't a bad player.

If you use him right. People just expected too much. Pop would use him right.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I didn't expect Oberto to be the starting center but I expected him to play more and contribute more defensively. He's not 6'7" but I think you were exaggerating, Trainwreck. He's between 6'9" and 6'10".

He is very basketball savvy, and that was not a surprise. He has had a few games where he was really good and he made a big difference in the flow of the game. His shot is very flat. That has been a disappointment. He also cannot jump very well.

On the positive side - his hands, screening and passing are better than average and his anticipation and hustle are excellent. He is a much better offensive boards guy (incl. tip-outs to save trips) than I thought he would be at the NBA level.

I can see him getting a little more physical lately but he still struggles against bigger post players and he doesn't take charges...plus he has no ref respect whatsoever.

Fabri has so many more intangibles than Sean Marks and can play defense much better, but what Kiwi can bring is he can light it up from the outside with instant offense...not to mention some decent hops.

One of them will not make the playoff roster, unless there is an injury.

I don't see Marks making the roster.

[Dre_7]

Bradley isn't a bad player.

If you use him right. People just expected too much. Pop would use him right.

No thanks.

[Dre_7]

How many players can be on the playoff roster this year? Is it any different with the new CBA?

[Please_dont_ban_me]

What the fuck?
You mean Varajeo?

That's the one.

The one Zo knocked on his ass. :lol

[Kori Ellis]

How many players can be on the playoff roster this year? Is it any different with the new CBA?

It's 12 I believe.

[Dre_7]

It's 12 I believe.

With the Spurs current roster of 13 players, who should get that 12th spot, Marks or Oberto?

I say SA signs TMass and gives him the 13th spot. :lol

[Please_dont_ban_me]

With the Spurs current roster of 13 players, who should get that 12th spot, Marks or Oberto?

I say SA signs TMass and gives him the 13th spot. :lol

I haven't seen Marks play much lately.

(I don't get Fox Sports Southwest on dish)

[Duncanoypi]

What the fuck?
You mean Varajeo?

You mean Varejao? :blah

[timvp]

Oberto, when given the time, has been pretty decent the last couple months. He started off the season pretty bad, but he's started to figure out how to rebound at this level.

Come playoff time, I think they'll be a time when Oberto becomes a valuable player. Offensively, I trust him on the court before Nazr or Rasho.

[ChumpDumper]

You mean Varejao? :blahJust say Sideshow Bob. We'll know what you're talking about.

[velik_m]

Just say Sideshow Bob. We'll know what you're talking about.

:lmao so true!

on Oberto: For a 5th bigman he's pretty good. I never thought he will challenge for starting 5, because of his limited offensive game.

[Peter]

Oberto's rep was built on his play in the Olympics, when he supposedly shut down any number of top US bigs. Too bad they don't use NBA rules in international ball or vice-versa, I suppose.

[boutons_]

Another European "veteran", sophomore Beno looks a lot better this year than last.

I expect rookie Fabricio, forget about his 30 years, is struggling like any foreign NBA rookie, adjusting to a new country and to an apparently complex Spurs system.

[ShoogarBear]

Offensively, I trust him on the court before Nazr or Rasho.

I don't know. Nazr has impressed me recently with his 10-15 foot jumper.

[Solid D]

Pop said on The Pop Show today that the scuttlebutt is that the Playoffs will be just like the regular season. Each night you can suit up any 12 players. He said it wasn't for sure though.

[ShoogarBear]

Each night you can suit up any 12 players.

Sweet. He should grab KG and Dwight Howard before anyone else thinks of it.

[Solid D]

Sweet. He should grab KG and Dwight Howard before anyone else thinks of it.

:lol like softball ringers

[Supergirl]

I bet Marks makes the playoff roster over Oberto, not because Oberto's not talented, but because he's a rookie so he'll be worse in the playoffs, whereas Marks will be more steady coming in off the bench.

Unless Van Exel doesn't make the playoff cut because of injury, and then they both make it.

[SenorSpur]

I bet Marks makes the playoff roster over Oberto, not because Oberto's not talented, but because he's a rookie so he'll be worse in the playoffs, whereas Marks will be more steady coming in off the bench.

Unless Van Exel doesn't make the playoff cut because of injury, and then they both make it.

Marks should get the nod. In addition to his offense, his length could be used to guard big scores like Dirk.

[cs100]

If Pop is right, then teams will be able to change the inactive player game to game. I think Pop might be right because there have been teams that sustained injuries during the playoffs when they had perfectly healthy players on the inactive list that they couldn't use. This would be fantastic. Pop can decide by game who will be in and who will be inactive. It is also great because KIWI (Marks) probably wouldn't have made the active list. (I say this because Oberto rarely, if ever, has been placed on the inactive list and Marks is usually there).

As for Obby's play, more playing time would help to evaluate his effectiveness. He can't control that. I think he can be valuable to us though because he does hustle on the offensive end and with our rebounding problem, he can make a difference.

[E20]

Dun be raggin on my man Oboito now. Sheeez, just watch 2 to 3 years in da L and he be funking the shit out of da rest.

Fa Sho Wit It Cuz.

[cs100]

:huh Are you speaking English E20?

[E20]

:huh Are you speaking English E20?
I'm just trying to copy the dialect used on some of the MySpaces I have seen and want to test it on mature forums to see how it works out. :tu

[cs100]

E20, okay by me but I couldn't understand your last sentence on post #44. Maybe I'm too old for this forum? Oh well.

[E20]

E20, okay by me but I couldn't understand your last sentence on post #44. Maybe I'm too old for this forum? Oh well.
This:

Dun be raggin on my man Oboito now. Sheeez, just watch 2 to 3 years in da L and he be funking the shit out of da rest.

translates into: Don't make fun of Oberto. Just watch in 2 to 3 years in the leauge he will develop and make a good player.

I still don't know what 'Fa Sho Wit it Cuz' means.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

Oberto, when given the time, has been pretty decent the last couple months. He started off the season pretty bad, but he's started to figure out how to rebound at this level.

Come playoff time, I think they'll be a time when Oberto becomes a valuable player. Offensively, I trust him on the court before Nazr or Rasho.

Over Nazr/Rasho?

Na, man. Over Marks maybe. Rasho/Nazr have played big minutes for us.

[Please_dont_ban_me]

I don't know. Nazr has impressed me recently with his 10-15 foot jumper.

Agreed.

It's ugly as hell, but it goes in.

[cs100]

I still don't know what 'Fa Sho Wit it Cuz' means.

:lol You're too funny.

[WalterBenitez]

Lemme fix that, he should be a bench player. But you never know. :lol

pssst, don't speak loud... you know that guy Isiah from NY, he used to read this forum :nerd

[WalterBenitez]

Dun be raggin on my man Oboito now. Sheeez, just watch 2 to 3 years in da L and he be funking the shit out of da rest. Fa Sho Wit It Cuz.

You could kill my english teacher with that sentence :lol

[gospursgojas]

Its funny how everyone here is now like... "I knew Oberto was going to be just like this" But when the spurs picked him up everyone was getting wet about him... admit it.

[leemajors]

i still think he was a good pickup, and will prove himself to be once he gets more pt.

[Bruno]

i still think he was a good pickup, and will prove himself to be once he gets more pt.

Agree, he has been quite good when he has had some playtime.
Remember that he is our 5th bigman and that 5th bigman plays only in case of injury/foul trouble/garbage time.
And it's normal that he is only the 5th bigman.
Duncan/Horry/Nazr/Rasho are quality players (even if you don't like Rasho or Nazr).
:tu Oberto.