Spurs Sign Melvin Sanders

[Old School Chic]

SAN ANTONIO - The San Antonio Spurs today announced they have signed guard Melvin Sanders. Per club policy terms of the deal were not released.



The 6-5 guard has played in eight games in two stints with the Spurs this season, averaging 2.6 points and 1.9 rebounds in 9.6 minutes per game. He finished with a career-high 8 points on 4-of-5 shooting in a 104-76 win over Charlotte on 1/24.



Sanders had been playing for the Fayetteville Patriots of the NBA Development League prior to his call-up. In 19 games with the Patriots he averaged 14.0 points, 3.9 rebounds and 2.2 assists in 32.2 minutes per game. Sanders posted a season-high 28 points on 11-of-16 shooting at Little Rock on 1/19.



Sanders averaged 15.6 points, 2.4 rebounds and 1.0 assists in five games with the Spurs summer league team at the 2005 Rocky Mountain Revue. The Oklahoma State product spent the 2004-05 season with the Dakota Wizards of the CBA where he averaged 18.7 points, 5.8 rebounds and 3.0 assists on his way to being selected to the All-CBA Second Team and the CBA All-Defensive First Team.

[angel_luv]

Welcome back Melvin. :)

[ObiwanGinobili]

He's back!! :elephant

I think I had put my vBookie on him.. not that it counts now .. but ya know.

[angel_luv]

You get the glory of being right, at least. :)

[batman2883]

looks like he will be getting a ring

[GINNNNNNNNNNNNOBILI]

Not a bad signing, but I would have rather seen a guy with a little more size

[leemajors]

i'm sure timvp is delighted about this...

[LilMissSPURfect]

cool

[FromWayDowntown]

I think the Spurs have just clinched themselves a title.


looks like he will be getting a ring

He's played more minutes, made and taken more shots, and grabbed more rebounds as a Spur than Mengke Bateer did, and Bateer has a ring. I guess we'll see if Melvin sticks around to the end of the season.

[Solid D]

I wonder if it's injury protection ONLY or if the League nudged the Spurs to help them keep the roster average at 14 players.

According to the new CBA, the NBA guarantees a league-wide average of at least 14 players per team. The league is surcharged if they do not meet this obligation.

[Bruno]

I wonder if it's injury protection ONLY or if the League nudged the Spurs to help them keep the roster average at 14 players.

According to the new CBA, the NBA guarantees a league-wide average of at least 14 players per team. The league is surcharged if they do not meet this obligation.

I don't think so for three reasons :
- Even if I haven't made the computation (it's quite complex), I think that the average of 14 will be reach because at the start of the season a lot of teams were with 15 players.
- I don't think the league can nudge Spurs.
- Even if the league had done that, they will save in the best case $130,000. It's not a lot of money.

[Bruno]

It's a good signing. He seems to be a nice guy and he knows our plays.

[wildbill2u]

Not a bad signing, but I would have rather seen a guy with a little more size

Exactly. Does anyone think we're short on the rotation at either guard position, assuming Beno and Barry are first options and Finley can play 2 as well as 3?

If anything I think we are weakest at the 3 and might need some help there.

[ChumpDumper]

Hmm. It makes a some sense signing a guard once NVE was put on the shelf, but Sanders again? They must realy like this guy. I personally would've given one of Roanoke's shoot-first points a try to duplicate NVE's game (Will Bynum, Anthony Grundy), or tried another more versatile swingman like Ime Udoka or Erik Daniels.

Maybe this is just another placeholder signing instead of an audition.

[NCaliSpurs]

Pop commented on the Pop show that this year in the playoffs they may change the rule such that you can put anybody on or off the IR to get 12 active.

It makes sense to have extra players, just in case one of our guards tweaks an ankle.

[Melmart1]

Holt Cat, that cheap bastard!

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, I don't understand either Chump.

Sanders hasn't shown me anything all year, but I guess the coaches see something different.

[T Park]

Holt Cat, that cheap bastard!

who woud you have preffered him to sign?

Spreewell?!

[Kori Ellis]

He knows the system. He plays defense. It makes sense to me as an insurance guy.

[Melmart1]

who woud you have preffered him to sign?

Spreewell?!

Dude, it was a joke. While Holt is no Cuban, I hardly think he is cheap, especially not to the detriment of the Spurs.

[timvp]

:pctoss

Melvin Sanders isn't an NBA level player. He just isn't.

[timvp]

Holt Cat, that cheap bastard!

Well, you do realize the Spurs didn't just keep him all season to save Holt a few hundred thousand, right?

[T Park]

Heaven forbid....

[pache100]

Pop commented on the Pop show that this year in the playoffs they may change the rule such that you can put anybody on or off the IR to get 12 active.

It makes sense to have extra players, just in case one of our guards tweaks an ankle.

Yes, they have mentioned that regulation season IR rule carrying over into the playoffs on the news and on the radio a couple of times now. It makes so much more sense than having to submit the playoff roster so far in advance and not being able to change it.

[Despot]

10 day contract?

[Kori Ellis]

I believe it's for the rest of the season because he's already had two 10-days with the Spurs this year.

[Holt's Cat]

!@#$. No more Fancy Feast.

[Bruno]

I believe it's for the rest of the season because he's already had two 10-days with the Spurs this year.

I think he had signed only one ten days contract.

[T Park]

Practice fodder..

[Despot]

I believe it's for the rest of the season because he's already had two 10-days with the Spurs this year.

I wasn't sure if he had 2 10-days yet. was the first time he was cut in the preseason?

He was active from games 11-9 - 11-22


His second stint was from 1-22 - 1-30

first was longer than ten days, not sure how those contracts work.

[Kori Ellis]

I think he had signed only one ten days contract.

That's what I didn't know for sure. He played 8 regular season games. So, I thought he had two 10-days already.

[Bruno]

Yes, they have mentioned that regulation season IR rule carrying over into the playoffs on the news and on the radio a couple of times now. It makes so much more sense than having to submit the playoff roster so far in advance and not being able to change it.

I hate this change.
It's a bad thing for domianant players. I can see detroit using Cato only against Miami to have another body to do an hack a Shaq, it's not the spirit of the game.

Sanders makes sense when you think that Spurs have a good chance to play against Kobe in the first round. if bowen is in foul trouble, Sanders becomes our best defender on Bryant.

[ChumpDumper]

Can't sign 10-days in November, so he has only one with us.

[Bruno]

^ The first contract was signed before january 10th, it wasn't a ten days contract.

[Kori Ellis]

Can't sign 10-days in November, so he has only one with us.

Oh yeah, that's true.

So I guess this could be a 10-day.

[Peter]

What is so !@#$ing difficult about carrying a decent 5th swing? The Spurs went into this season with a fairly old swing rotation. Right now is their window to win multiple additional championships. I'm glad ownership is worried about something other than depth for an aging roster.

[ChumpDumper]

It's funny that the youngest swingman is the least durable.

[Peter]

Also the most vital.

[timvp]

The Spurs couldn't find the numbers for Theron Smith, Ndudi Ebi, Erik Daniels or TJ Cummings?

:wtf

[SoCalSpursFan]

Even though he is signed, hopefully this thread is the last time I hear the name "Melvin Sanders."

...I don't wanna be hearing it over the P.A. System...

[T Park]

Go sign Sprewell so the bitchers will STFU..

[T Park]

The Spurs couldn't find the numbers for Theron Smith, Ndudi Ebi, Erik Daniels or TJ Cummings?


maybe.

JUST MAYBE

They aren't as high on those NBDL stiffs, as you guys are.

Hard to believe i know.....

[ChumpDumper]

Man, Ebi is putting up some sick block numbers as a starter- he's such a tweener though.

I really want to get one of those guys you mentioned in summer league.

[timvp]

maybe.

JUST MAYBE

They aren't as high on those NBDL stiffs, as you guys are.

Hard to believe i know.....


You think Melvin Sanders belongs in the NBA?

[polandprzem]

It's all good.

It is too late for the new guys. Melvin knows some spurs system.

[timvp]

It is too late for the new guys.

GRob was signed in April.

[Despot]

You think Melvin Sanders belongs in the NBA?

Maybe as the 13th man on the Bobcats, not on a contender

[Peter]

You think Melvin Sanders belongs in the NBA?

Indeed. It would seem as though they could've gotten someone with a bit more experience for a 1 year, vet min contract. Lux tax doubles that. Oh no.

[T Park]

You think Melvin Sanders belongs in the NBA?

obviously pop does.

I defer to powers that are smarter than me, IE, guys that have won 3 rings....

[T Park]

It would seem as though they could've gotten someone with a bit more experience for a 1 year, vet min contract. Lux tax doubles that. Oh no.

IE

Sign Sprewell.


No thanks.

That shitfuck can rot in hell.

[Peter]

IE

Sign Sprewell.


No thanks.

That shitfuck can rot in hell.


What would've been wrong with that? Would you rather Pop call his # or Sanders' in the postseason?

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What would've been wrong with that? Would you rather Pop call his # or Sanders' in the postseason?

Neither

[Bruno]

You think Melvin Sanders belongs in the NBA?

Maybe not but it's not like Theron Smith, Erik Daniels or Ebi belongs in the nba too.

Smith hasn't been re-signed by Charlotte, a building team. Denver has cut him to keep a guy with a carrer ending injury (Byron Russel) just because his contract was guaranteed.
Ebi has been waived with a guaranteed contract.
Daniels has played garbage time last year and has scored 12 points in the season.

[Peter]

What about vets?

[polandprzem]

GRob was signed in April.

yeah but what did he do?

[polandprzem]

btw GRob was a must situacion

[Peter]

btw GRob was a must situacion


Would Barry or Finley going down create a "must situacion"?

[T Park]

Yeah it would.

But both are playing well and are healthy.

[timvp]

Maybe not but it's not like Theron Smith, Erik Daniels or Ebi belongs in the nba too.

Smith hasn't been re-signed by Charlotte, a building team. Denver has cut him to keep a guy with a carrer ending injury (Byron Russel) just because his contract was guaranteed.
Ebi has been waived with a guaranteed contract.
Daniels has played garbage time last year and has scored 12 points in the season.

Yeah I'll be sure to bump this when one of those three is a successful NBA player.

[Peter]

Yeah it would.

But both are playing well and are healthy.


All it takes is a twisted ankle in a playoff game...

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All it takes is a twisted ankle in a playoff game...

If Melvin Sanders see's the floor in a playoff game, we're in alot of trouble

[T Park]

So now they should sign players, because of paranoia?


eah I'll be sure to bump this when one of those three is a successful NBA player.

Jason Hart is still in the NBA and those guys arent.

[Peter]

If Melvin Sanders see's the floor in a playoff game, we're in alot of trouble


Right, which is why adding a vet for depth would make some sense.

[T Park]

So you'd add Latrell Sprewell, to sit on the bench and stew and bitch?

[Bruno]

What about vets?

Give me some names ?

Matt Barnes or Stephen Graham were good choice as 5th swingman.
Spurs didn't sign them because they hope to goes under the tax by doing a trade before the deadline.

[Peter]

So you'd add Latrell Sprewell, to sit on the bench and stew and bitch?

Just like GRobinson did?

[T Park]

Matt Barnes and Stephen Graham STINK.


Now we should add STIFFS, just add people?

[Peter]

Give me some names ?

Matt Barnes or Stephen Graham were good choice as 5th swingman.
Spurs didn't sign them because they hope to goes under the tax by doing a trade before the deadline.


Right, the almighty tax kept them from making a good bball decision.

[T Park]

Just like GRobinson did?

GRob wasn't the money grubbing headcase that Sprewell is.

PLUS, he was coming off an injury and hoping to prove he could still play.

[Peter]

GRob wasn't the money grubbing headcase that Sprewell is.

PLUS, he was coming off an injury and hoping to prove he could still play.


Wouldn't Spree like to show that he can still ball?

[Melmart1]

Well, you do realize the Spurs didn't just keep him all season to save Holt a few hundred thousand, right?

You do realize that is just your speculation, right? :)

[polandprzem]

Why is Melvin with the spurs?

cause he can

If there will be an inactive list that's okay. We have many of the vets in spurs team.

Is Kevin Willis still available? :)

[timvp]

You do realize that is just your speculation, right? :)

timvp is never wrong.

:smokin

[T Park]

Wouldn't Spree like to show that he can still ball?

Talk to the Clippers about that.

They tried to sign him and he wants a 3 year deal, no questions asked.

You wanna sign Spreewell for 3 years RIGHT NOW?

I don't think so.

[timvp]

Seriously though, why wouldn't the Spurs have kept him all year if they thought he deserved a spot on the team? Holt didn't want to sell a couple more tractors so he instead didn't let the team run with 14 players ... like ever other team in the league.

[Bruno]

Yeah I'll be sure to bump this when one of those three is a successful NBA player.

As you want but you can notice than none of the nba GMs had given them a try this year. Their nba level isn't that obvious.

[T Park]

timvp is never wrong.



Jason Hart is still playing ball.

You said he wasn't an NBA guy.

Hes playing pretty solid to well for the Kings.

[Peter]

Another point. Every Ludden article lately seems to include the observation that the Spurs would like to get younger on the perimeter. Well, you had a young player who fit in your system and played better D than any current backup swing.

[T Park]

and wanted too much money for a player coming off a VERY questionable back injury.

Charles Smith fucked that up for everyone else.

[Peter]

and wanted too much money for a player coming off a VERY questionable back injury.

Charles Smith fucked that up for everyone else.


One year commitment. Hopefully the Jazz fuck up and don't keep him for next season.

[Solid D]

Get back to me when Sanders can bring the ball up past mid-court under pressure....

no wait, wrong standard response. Sorry, nevermind.

[T Park]

Sloan and him don't get along, so it's likely.

If not, who knows.


The FA hasn't fucked up when it comes to young prospects "so far"

[timvp]

Jason Hart is still playing ball.

You said he wasn't an NBA guy.

Hes playing pretty solid to well for the Kings.

:lmao X 100

Obviously you haven't watched a Kings game this year. Playa is playing horrible. Actually, he doesn't even play anymore.

3 points, 1 assists, 1 turnover in 12 minutes per game for the year? Under 39% for the season?

I would say timvp was right in saying that Jason Hart isn't an NBA caliber player.

Next.

:hat

[Peter]

Sloan and him don't get along, so it's likely.

If not, who knows.


The FA hasn't fucked up when it comes to young prospects "so far"


Hmmm...DB, Josh Howard, Jack, etc..

[Bruno]

Seriously though, why wouldn't the Spurs have kept him all year if they thought he deserved a spot on the team? Holt didn't want to sell a couple more tractors so he instead didn't let the team run with 14 players ... like ever other team in the league.

Because Spurs were $1M over the tax. This $1M cost in fact $4.5M to Holt ($1M in salary + $1M in lux tax + $2.5M less in escrow redistribution).
They haven't signed a player to have more flexibility to go under the tax with a trade.
And Spurs aren't the only team to have done that. New Jersey, philadelphia, Sacramento and Houston have done the same kind of things.

[Peter]

Because Spurs were $1M over the tax. This $1M cost in fact $4.5M to Holt ($1M in salary + $1M in lux tax + $2.5M less in escrow redistribution).
They haven't signed a player to have more flexibility to go under the tax with a trade.
And Spurs aren't the only team to have done that. New Jersey, philadelphia, Sacramento and Houston have done the same kind of things.


They are set to lose the escrow no matter what.

[timvp]

Because Spurs were $1M over the tax. This $1M cost in fact $4.5M to Holt ($1M in salary + $1M in lux tax + $2.5M less in escrow redistribution).
They haven't signed a player to have more flexibility to go under the tax with a trade.
And Spurs aren't the only team to have done that. New Jersey, philadelphia, Sacramento and Houston have done the same kind of things.

Exactly. It was a Holt related decision.

Thanks.

[Peter]

Hopefully in the offseason they can revisit the Barry for Smith deal and then land Brown in free agency. Maybe even bring in Sanikidze. That would be a good start to getting 'youthful' on the perimeter.

[spurs_fan_in_exile]

Well, I think if Melvin ever visits this board he's going to have some idea how Jesus feels. Watching as people who really believe in essentially the same thing (the Spurs) squabbling over details at the mention of his name in debates that have never been settled and never will be settled. Holt's will be done.

[Bruno]

They are set to lose the escrow no matter what.

Now, yes but not before the deadline.
With the Barry trade Spurs would be under the tax.
The reaason why they tryed to find a third team to take Vroman instead of sending him to spurs was to put spurs under the tax and to save the $2.5M in escrow redistribution.

[Melmart1]

timvp is never wrong.

:smokin

link? :angel

[Cant_Be_Faded]

link? :angel


rosebowl

[Peter]

Now, yes but not before the deadline.
With the Barry trade Spurs would be under the tax.
The reaason why they tryed to find a third team to take Vroman instead of sending him to spurs was to put spurs under the tax and to save the $2.5M in escrow redistribution.


Good. Then sign someone good for the remainder of the season.

[Bruno]

Good. Then sign someone good for the remainder of the season.

Not signing a 14th player for all the season was money related.
Signing Sanders over all the players available is BB related.
I think that Spurs choose him because he knows the system and because they aren't a way better player available.

[Kori Ellis]

Not signing a 14th player for all the season was money related.
Signing Sanders over all the players available is BB related.
I think that Spurs choose him because he knows the system and because they aren't a way better player available.

I agree with this exactly.

[T Park]

Good post Bruno, thats exactly right.

And I honestly have zero problem with it.

There has been NOBODY out there that I could say, DAMN, why didn't we sign them.


Signing Devin Brown would've been nice, but we had no idea how he would've been after the back thing.

Had he come out this year, been on the IR off and on, and not played at all, TIMVP would've grudgingly had to give POP his due for being right about devin.

[timvp]

Not signing a 14th player for all the season was money related.

Good to see a few thousand dollars means more to Holt than helping the team win.


Signing Sanders over all the players available is BB related.

Signing Rasho Nesterovic was BB related too. Doesn't make it right.


I think that Spurs choose him because he knows the system and because they aren't a way better player available.

They chose Rasho because Pop was in town and not Brad Miller because he didn't block enough shots :rolleyes

[Peter]

Good post Bruno, thats exactly right.

And I honestly have zero problem with it.

There has been NOBODY out there that I could say, DAMN, why didn't we sign them.


Signing Devin Brown would've been nice, but we had no idea how he would've been after the back thing.

Had he come out this year, been on the IR off and on, and not played at all, TIMVP would've grudgingly had to give POP his due for being right about devin.


Um, Pop wanted to keep Brown and dump Barry last offseason.

[T Park]

Too bad they could'nt find a rube to go for Brent Barry's contract.

They finally found someone in NO, but unfortunately Billy King runs his operation like a 9-5 mom and pop shop.


They chose Rasho because Pop was in town and not Brad Miller because he didn't block enough shots

You think Brad Miller is worth 11 million a year?

[Bruno]

Good to see a few thousand dollars means more to Holt than helping the team win.

It wasn't a few thousand dollars but $4M or $5M.
I disagree with that too as a fan (as said before I would be happy with Graham or Barnes signed for the season and I said that before the season).
On the other side I understand why they have done that. NBA is a bussiness and most trades are now financial moves.



Signing Rasho Nesterovic was BB related too. Doesn't make it right.
They chose Rasho because Pop was in town and not Brad Miller because he didn't block enough shots :rolleyes

I just say that signing Sanders over players like Smith isn't related with Holt.
Maybe it's a mistake. unlike you, I don't think so.

[timvp]

You think Brad Miller is worth 11 million a year?

Don't tell me you are going to try to argue that Rasho's contract is a better deal than Miller's.

[Peter]

Don't tell me you are going to try to argue that Rasho's contract is a better deal than Miller's.

The compounding factor is passing on Howard in the '03 NBA Draft to ensure there was enough cap $ to sign Nesterovic...

[leemajors]

how much does rasho make?

[ChumpDumper]

I still don't know why we have to pretend the Spurs aren't a business and that owners like to make money. There is only one GM in the league who has carte blanche to add as much payroll as humanly possible, and that just happens to be the 2nd worst team in the league.

The Spurs are willing to pay the tax if they feel the investment is worth it. The Spurs signed Finley knowing they would go over the tax threshold and were willing to sign Tim Thomas once he became available. I agree the threshold for determining player's worth is higher and we aren't parking players on the IR to develop them, but what has really changed? I guess you could argue Melvin would be so much better because he practiced more with the team, but then you get to compare that with PT in the minors.

[timvp]

how much does rasho make?

Rasho is in the midst of a 6-year, $42M contract.

[Peter]

how much does rasho make?


About $6.7 mil this season. After that he has 3 years and $23.7 mil coming to him.

[timvp]

Only T Park would rather pay Rasho $7M a year rather than paying Brad Miller $9M a year.

[Bruno]

The compounding factor is passing on Howard in the '03 NBA Draft to ensure there was enough cap $ to sign Nesterovic...

With hindsight, you can turn every nba team into the best of the league.

[T Park]

The compounding factor is passing on Howard in the '03 NBA Draft to ensure there was enough cap $ to sign Nesterovic

Now wait on that.


The original target was Jermaine O'Neal.

Now if they had gotten O'Neal, you wouldn't be bothered by that WHAT SO EVER.

[timvp]

With hindsight, you can turn every nba team into the best of the league.

It's relevant because Pop and Tim wanted Howard. RC wanted cap space.

[T Park]

Only T Park would rather pay Rasho $7M a year rather than paying Brad Miller $9M a year.

Id rather pay 11 for Jermaine O'Neal.

Id rather give 8 for PJ Brown.


Brad Miller is way overpaid as is Nesterovic.


Only you would read into my comments more than I read into yours.

[Peter]

Hindsight is even more galling when you consider that Nocioni would be a Spur right now if someone had gotten his age right.

[timvp]

Id rather pay 11 for Jermaine O'Neal.

Id rather give 8 for PJ Brown.


Brad Miller is way overpaid as is Nesterovic.


Only you would read into my comments more than I read into yours.

Rasho at $7M a year or Miller at $9M a year.

Pick one.

[leemajors]

Only T Park would rather pay Rasho $7M a year rather than paying Brad Miller $9M a year.


i like brad miller, but wouldn't our d have been less effective with him the middle? or do you think the offensive dividends would make the difference meaningless...

[Peter]

Oh well, all they need is to be able to pull off the Barry for Smith deal in the offseason and maybe Sanikidze pans out...

[T Park]

Hindsight is even more galling when you consider that Nocioni would be a Spur right now if someone had gotten his age right.

Great point.

I remember someone saying that the other day, it damn near made me hurl on my keyboard.



Rasho at $7M a year or Miller at $9M a year.

Pick one

Brad at 9 :lol


HEY,

Go back and look at the archives,

and look who I wanted to sign that summer.

Brad Miller, Vohson Leonard, and Stephen Jackson, END OF SUMMER.

[Peter]

i like brad miller, but wouldn't our d have been less effective with him the middle? or do you think the offensive dividends would make the difference meaningless...


Rasho's D isn't that great. Miller's passing skill plus J would be a nice fit in the Spurs' O.

[T Park]

i like brad miller, but wouldn't our d have been less effective with him the middle? or do you think the offensive dividends would make the difference meaningless...



With a bit of teaching, Brad would've been just as good, but twice the player on the other end, twice the rebounder, and if they had gotten him?

Wed be talking about 4 in a row this year.

EASILY.

[Bruno]

It's relevant because Pop and Tim wanted Howard. RC wanted cap space.

Every team makes mistakes.
In 2001, Boston almost drafted Parker.
Parker was ready to go on the podium, an official said him that it was good.
And finally, they drafted Joseph Forte.
Rasho was a 11/8 player this year and even if Pop and Tim wanted Howard, you can't say that nba staffs expect that he will become a great player since every team passed on him.

I don't say it's not a mistake but that it's understandable.

[leemajors]

Rasho's D isn't that great. Miller's passing skill plus J would be a nice fit in the Spurs' O.

rasho's d is pretty good. there is a notable dropoff when nazr is in the game. i agree miller's passing and j would be good, but i don't know if the difference in defensive ability would be worth it.

[easjer]

Come on leemajors, you know better than to argue with timvp, Peter and TPark about Rasho's D, right? Cause Rasho is less useful than dirt on the court and Nazr Mohammed is an offensive god and defense by the center on a defensive team is less important than the garbage offense our centers get.

:rolleyes

[Peter]

Apparently Nesterovic translates into "Ben Wallace" in Slovenian.

[Melmart1]

I still contend that Holt isn't cheap, just a good businessman.

If signing another player would have translated to 4-5 million in taxes- then who out of the crop of players that everyone mentioned here would have been worth 4-5 million? You think paying Rasho 6 million is bad, trying paying 4 or 5 million for Melvin Sanders.

I also ask- who on the list of season-long pickup that have been suggested would have been the difference maker in any of the 14 losses?

[Peter]

Sanders wouldn't have cost that much. As it stands he would've cost an extra $400K assuming they had signed him for a 1 year, minimum deal.

[leemajors]

ok jackass, no one has ever mentioned rasho in a league with wallace defensively. rasho, however, is a very good defender in the spurs system and is leaps and bounds above nazr defensively. i agree he is overpaid, but you can't blame him for that. unfortunately, you seem to be too dense to comprehend that.

[Peter]

If he isn't anywhere near Ben Wallace then his defense doesn't make up for his limited offensive skills and weak ass rebounding. A couple of blocks a night doesn't make a great defender. The guy has no presence in the paint. Stop trying to make him something he's not.

Damn, Spurs fans love mediocrity if it comes with a white face (see Barry, Brent).

[leemajors]

rasho alters a lot of shots and rotates very well. he is a presence in the paint, just isn't the best rebounder or offensive player. rebounding isn't the only way to be a presence in the paint. you need to get a clue.

[Peter]

He rotates so well that he can't snag a board these days to save his life. Rotation means little if you don't have the presence.

[leemajors]

peter the parrot:

"CAAAAAWK, HOLT CHEAP"
"CAAAAAWK, RASHO SUCKS"

[Melmart1]

Holt's Parrot instead of Holt's Cat?

[cs100]

Sanders will be a good practice player. He is insurance as was stated earlier.

Rasho and Nazr have their pluses and minuses. Rasho is a decent defender and boxes out pretty good. Nazr has the energy and is good on offense until he pump-fakes and travels. He also has butterfingers when the ball is passed to him. He is a demon offensive rebounders though. Rasho has been inconsistent on the offensive end but is a good matchup when we play teams like Houston, Miami and other teams with big and slow centers.

[z0sa]

Melvin Sanders is really good defensively. If he learned well from Bruce he could be our next bruce, or another bruce alongside of bruce, if that makes sense.

[timvp]

Sanders is too small to be the next Bruce. Sanders is about as tall as Parker.

[SequSpur]

Sanders blows.

[kalikot_boy_kr]

:elephant :elephant despot sucks!!!!! lol! :elephant :elephant

[TwoHandJam]

Melvin Sanders is really good defensively. If he learned well from Bruce he could be our next bruce, or another bruce alongside of bruce, if that makes sense.
I also thought Sanders was very good defensively. I don't know if he can ever be as good as Bruce because of the height differential but he is talented defensively and likely has more offensive potential than Bruce.

Let's not forget that Bruce almost didn't stick in the NBA either. Boris Diaw looked like a bust until he was traded to Phoenix. I wouldn't be so quick to dismiss Sanders as "not NBA material" yet. I don't mind the signing since it is mostly for insurance purposes anyhow.

[ashbeeigh]

I think I heard on the news tonight that Pop said something about Sanders having good "fiber". I think that translates to "he knows the system". Which has been mentioned before. Just thought I'd pass that along.

[ChumpDumper]

Might mean he responds when he's yelled at.

Or eats alot of bran....

[ashbeeigh]

Might mean he responds when he's yelled at.

Or eats alot of bran....

Or he has good "moral fiber," Which was the first thing that I thought of. Most likely not.

[timvp]

Maybe the Spurs needed someone to bring the fiber donuts to practice.

[Peter]

...or that he's willing to be treated like shit because the Spurs are his only ticket into the league?

[ChumpDumper]

What minor leaguer wouldn't be so willing?

[Peter]

As in his only ticket.

[ChumpDumper]

As in so what?

[Peter]

As in let's hope we don't have to play this guy in the postseason.

[ChumpDumper]

:lmao, you bitch all year about not having a guy like Mel. Now that we have him, all you can do is bitch about having him.

Bravo.

[Peter]

I wanted a vet as the 5th swing. The 'project' would be the 6th.

[ChumpDumper]

It's still March.

[ashbeeigh]

The vetrans didn't have the fiber! (I should be doing homework).

[ShoogarBear]

:lmao @ this thread. Needs to be added to the "must reads".

[cs100]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=fiber


fi·ber --
Something that provides substance or texture.
Essential character: “stirred the deeper fibers of my nature” (Oscar Wilde).
Basic strength or toughness; fortitude: lacking in moral fiber.

Does this help?

[TwoHandJam]

I wanted a vet as the 5th swing. The 'project' would be the 6th.
Six swingmen? Isn't that overkill on an already deep team? I prefer having youth as our 5th swing. We have enough vets already.

[Peter]

They've carried 6 often. At least back when they believed in using IR to develop young talent.

[polandprzem]

We need two milion vets and a few jets

[Solid D]

I like the idea of someone bringing good "fiber" to the team, just a "regular", athletic guy who can make frequent stops and bring more "movement" to the team.

:smokin

[ChumpDumper]

I personally would've given one of Roanoke's shoot-first points a try to duplicate NVE's game (Will Bynum, Anthony Grundy)March 17, 2006
Warriors Sign Will Bynum To 10-Day Contract
NBA Development League’s Leading Scorer Is 13th GATORADE Call-UP This Season

The Golden State Warriors have signed guard Will Bynum of the NBA Development League to a 10-day contract, Executive Vice President of Basketball Operations Chris Mullin announced today.

In 29 games with the Roanoke Dazzle this season, Bynum is averaging 24.0 points, 6.7 assists, 2.9 rebounds and 1.66 steals in 37.7 minutes per contest. He currently leads the D-League in scoring, while ranking second in assists and minutes and also ranking fifth in steals. Bynum is the 13th GATORADE Call-UP of the 2005-06 NBA Development League season and the 63rd overall since the league began play in November 2001.

A 6-0, 185-pound rookie who went undrafted out of Georgia Tech, Bynum appeared in four games with the Boston Celtics during the preseason, averaging 1.3 points and 1.5 assists in 9.5 minutes per contest before being released. In his last game with Roanoke on Wednesday (3/15), Bynum posted his seventh double-double of the season with 30 points and 13 assists – including a pair of free throws with five seconds remaining in a 115-114 victory over Fayetteville.

With the addition of Bynum, who will wear uniform #3, the Warriors roster now stands at 14 players.

http://www.nba.com/media/warriors/bynum_275x350.jpg

http://www.nba.com/warriors/news/Warriors_Sign_Will_Bynum_To_10-Day_Contract.html

Nice scorer, but he is a TO machine.

[timvp]

How many PGs do you think the Spurs need?

[ChumpDumper]

That depends on Nick. Gotta think past this season too.

I'm always for having a full roster though, I mentioned other swingmen in that post as well if you really want me to dredge that up.

This was mainly a kluby post citing my D-League knowledge. :elephant

[timvp]

In that case, props.

:smokin