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boutons_
03-17-2006, 03:46 PM
March 17, 2006
Diplomatic Memo
Democracy Push by Bush Attracts Doubters in Party

By STEVEN R. WEISMAN (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/w/steven_r_weisman/index.html?inline=nyt-per)

Even as it presents an updated national security strategy, the Bush administration is facing fresh doubts from some Republicans who say its emphasis on promoting democracy around the world has come at the expense of protecting other American interests.

The second thoughts signify a striking change in mood over one of President Bush's cherished tenets, pitting Republicans who call themselves realists against the neoconservatives who saw the invasion of Iraq as a catalyst for change and who remain the most vigorous advocates of a muscular American campaign to foster democratic movements.

"You are hearing more and more questions about the administration's approach on this issue," said Lorne W. Craner, president of the International Republican Institute, a foundation linked to the Republican Party that supports democratic activities abroad. "The 'realists' in the party are rearing their heads and asking, 'Is this stuff working?' "

The critics, who include Senators Chuck Hagel (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/h/chuck_hagel/index.html?inline=nyt-per) of Nebraska and Richard G. Lugar (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/l/richard_g_lugar/index.html?inline=nyt-per) of Indiana and Representative Henry J. Hyde of Illinois, as well as Henry Kissinger (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/k/henry_a_kissinger/index.html?inline=nyt-per) and Brent Scowcroft, are alarmed at the costs of military operations and of nation-building in Iraq and Afghanistan.

They have also been shaken by the victory of Hamas (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/h/hamas/index.html?inline=nyt-org) in Palestinian elections in January and by the gains Islamists scored in elections in Iraq, Egypt and Lebanon.

The administration, with support from legislators like Senators John McCain (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/john_mccain/index.html?inline=nyt-per) of Arizona and Sam Brownback of Kansas, contends that whatever their outcome, elections are better than violent upheaval. But critics worry that antidemocratic extremists will prevail wherever tradition and existing civil institutions are too weak to protect the rights of minorities or to nurture moderates.

They also argue that heavy-handed pressure has strained American relations with Egypt, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Russia and China, making it harder to enlist them in fighting terrorism, stabilizing the Middle East and curbing nuclear weapons.

The renewed violence in Iraq since the voting there has discredited, in their view, the promise of democracy as an outlet for tensions, bringing sectarian parties— and their affiliated militias — to the fore.

"You cannot in my opinion just impose a democratic form of government on a country with no history and no culture and no tradition of democracy," said Senator Hagel.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/r/condoleezza_rice/index.html?inline=nyt-per), who is traveling this week in South America, Asia and Australia in part to promote democracy, acknowledges the growing dissent but says the administration will stick to its goals.

"There is a debate, and I think it's a debate that's healthy," she said. "This is obviously a really big change in American foreign policy, to put the promotion of democracy at the center of it. And people take very seriously what this president is doing and intends to do."

Mr. Bush's intent is clear from the very first sentence of the national security strategy paper issued yesterday: "It is the policy of the United States to seek and support democratic movements and institutions in every nation and culture, with the ultimate goal of ending tyranny in our world." The 49-page document calls this task "the work of generations."

It names as strongholds of tyranny North Korea, Iran, Syria, Cuba, Belarus, Myanmar and Zimbabwe. It gives the United States credit for toppling Saddam Hussein (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/h/saddam_hussein/index.html?inline=nyt-per) and the Taliban (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/organizations/t/taliban/index.html?inline=nyt-org), and cites "some preliminary steps" toward democracy in Saudi Arabia and "more open but still flawed" elections in Egypt. It says that the Palestinian voting was "free, fair and inclusive" but that democratic principles "are tested by the victory of Hamas."

The concern, expressed by Representative Hyde, chairman of the International Relations Committee, is that the administration views democracy as a "magic formula."

"Implanting democracy in large areas would require that we possess an unbounded power and undertake an open-ended commitment of time and resources, which we cannot and will not do," he said.

William Kristol, editor of the conservative Weekly Standard, said: "What's really driving the criticism is disenchantment with the war. But it's unfair to say that supporters of the war thought it was going to be easy to build a democracy in Iraq."

Even many supporters of the democracy program say the administration's miscalculations in Iraq have done damage to the cause.

"I think this administration tends to have the right general policies but to be remarkably unwilling to look at how weak their instruments of implementation are," said Newt Gingrich (http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/g/newt_gingrich/index.html?inline=nyt-per), the former House speaker.

The American effort has also stirred controversy abroad. This year the United States is spending $1.7 billion to support groups seeking political change, but lately Russia, Egypt, China and many countries in Africa and Latin America have cracked down on these groups.

Senator McCain, a leading proponent of the program, said that despite these setbacks and controversies, and the lack of civilian structures and rule of law in many countries, the administration was right to push for democracy and elections.

"The moral of the story is that democracy is tough," he said. "We have to recognize that you can have two steps forward and one step back."

The issue of which should come first — civil society and rule of law, or elections — was underscored by the Hamas victory. Before the Palestinian elections, Washington had pressed for a law requiring political candidates to disavow racism and lawlessness, but was rebuffed.

"There's an assumption here that somehow you can neatly build a civil society, and neatly build the habits of democracy, and then you take off the authoritarian hat and everything's in place for democracy to rise," Ms. Rice said, when asked about such criticism. "I just don't think it works that way in the real world."

One prominent neoconservative, Francis Fukuyama, asserts in a new book that the administration embraced democracy as a cornerstone of its policy only after the failure to find unconventional weapons in Iraq. The issue was seized upon to justify the war in retrospect, and then expanded for other countries, he says.

( Exactly! no WMD, no Quida, no immediate-Iraq-threat-to-USA, no nothing, so retroactively, "democracy in Iraq" was trotted out as yet-another bullshit lie for going into Iraq )
Mr. Fukuyama, who opposed the war in Iraq, said in an interview that it was naïve and contrary to the tenets of conservatism for the United States to think that it could act as midwife or cheerleader for democracy in societies it knows little about.

Indeed, as he points out, in the 2000 election campaign, both Mr. Bush and Ms. Rice, then his foreign policy adviser, criticized the Clinton administration's interventions to promote democracy in Somalia, Haiti and the Balkans as misplaced idealism.

"It's this weird situation, where you have a really conservative Republican president using all this Clintonesque rhetoric about rights and ideals," Mr. Fukuyama said.

Administration officials say they are guided not by naïveté but by hard-nosed necessity. If authoritarian governments in the Middle East do not open themselves to reform, extremists will eventually blow them up, they say.

Mr. Craner, of the International Republican Institute, who was an assistant secretary of state for democracy, human rights and labor in Mr. Bush's first term, said that at least rhetorically, Republicans generally supported democracy and were likely to continue doing so.

Even such leaders of the "realist" camp, like Mr. Kissinger, a former secretary of state, and Mr. Scowcroft, national security adviser under the first President Bush, say they support democracy as a major part of American foreign policy.

But in an echo of the cold war debates over whether to confront or negotiate with the Soviet Union, both have also warned that the United States should not risk alienating crucial allies or fomenting unrest by demanding rapid internal change.

Mr. Kissinger noted in a commentary last year, for example, "The United States is probably the only country in which 'realist' can be used as a pejorative epithet."

But the leaders of the cause are not backing down.

"Obviously, we want stability and we want allies in the war on terror," said one, Representative David Dreier, Republican of California. "But I don't think we should back down from democratization just because it's hard."







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boutons_
03-17-2006, 03:51 PM
GOP Irritation At Bush Was Long Brewing

By Jim VandeHei

Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 17, 2006; A01

President Bush's troubles with congressional Republicans, which erupted during the backlash to the Dubai seaport deal, are rooted in policy frustrations and personal resentments that GOP lawmakers say stretch back to the opening days of the administration.

For years, the Bush White House and its allies on Capitol Hill seemed like one of the most unified teams Washington had ever seen, passing most of Bush's agenda with little dissent. Privately, however, many lawmakers felt underappreciated, ignored and sometimes bullied by what they regarded as a White House intent on running government with little input from them. Often it was to pass items -- an expanded federal role in education under the No Child Left Behind law and an expensive prescription drug benefit under Medicare -- that left conservatives deeply uneasy.

What Bush is facing now, beyond just election-year jitters by legislators eyeing his depressed approval ratings, is a rebellion that has been brewing since the days when he looked invincible, say many lawmakers and strategists. Newly unleashed grievances could signal even bigger problems for Bush's last two years in office, as he would be forced to abandon a governing strategy that until recently counted on solid support from congressional Republicans.

The White House at times has been "non-responsive and arrogant," said Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.). "There are a thousand small cuts," he added, that are ignored when things are going well but "rear their heads when things are not going well."

"Members felt they were willing to take a lot of tough votes and did not get much in return," said Rep. Peter T. King (R-N.Y.), an early critic of the port deal.

( dubya/dickhead/The-Imperial-White-House is above the law, politics, and the other branches of government )

Congressional scholar Norman J. Ornstein has written that the recently vented anger, after being suppressed for years out of loyalty or fear, might be seen in psychological terms. He called the condition "battered-Congress syndrome."

The biggest test of dissatisfaction could come this summer if calls for withdrawing U.S. troops from Iraq intensify. Most Republicans voted to authorize the Iraq war after the White House assured them that Saddam Hussein posed a threat with weapons of mass destruction and that the United States had an effective military strategy. Many now harbor serious doubts about the war's prospects.

Bush still enjoys a high level of personal affection among GOP lawmakers, but there is a deep-seated frustration with his political, policy and congressional relations teams in particular that has poisoned the atmosphere. This is one reason many legislators are among a chorus of Washington voices urging Bush to infuse his White House with new blood.

Sen. Trent Lott (R-Miss.) recently contacted White House officials and implored them to bring aboard a former lawmaker as a new chief diplomat to Congress. Lott floated several names, including former senators Daniel R. Coats (R-Ind.) and Slade Gorton (R-Wash.). It "would be a good idea" to have someone with real stature working Congress on Bush's behalf, Lott said. Former Senate majority leader Howard H. Baker Jr. (R-Tenn.) told CBS on Wednesday that he did the same in a phone call to Bush Chief of Staff Andrew H. Card Jr., offering the name of former senator Fred D. Thompson (R-Tenn.).

Sen. Norm Coleman (R-Minn.), who won his seat in 2002 after a late push by Bush, told the Associated Press this week that the president should shake up the staff more broadly, accusing the White House of having a political "tin ear." That was seen by some top White House aides as a wake-up call, because Coleman has been such a loyal Bush backer.

The White House may be listening. In private conversations with lawmakers in recent days, top officials have hinted that Bush is open to bringing aboard new high-level staffers, including perhaps a former lawmaker or two. With the recent departure of domestic policy chief Claude A. Allen, now facing criminal theft charges, Bush has positions to fill and every incentive to use those openings to rebuild relations with Capitol Hill.

A senior White House official, who requested anonymity to discuss internal deliberations, said Bush is moving to hold more face-to-face meetings with legislators but has no immediate plans to fire any staff. Even before the seaport flap, Bush was holding more meetings than ever with individual House and Senate members, including Democrats, to discuss Iraq and the domestic agenda, aides said. Bush, Vice President Cheney and other officials are also raising millions of dollars for lawmakers seeking reelection and other congressional candidates.

One reason some lawmakers said Bush should shift gears quickly is the changed power structure in the House. For the first five years of the administration, Speaker J. Dennis Hastert (R-Ill.) and then-House Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-Tex.) used a top-down management style to push the Bush agenda through. With Bush at the top of the ticket and very popular with the GOP base, most lawmakers fell in line.

The election of Rep. John A. Boehner (R-Ohio) to replace DeLay as party leader has created a more unpredictable and freewheeling Republican caucus. Boehner won by promising to return power to chairmen and rank-and-file legislators who tend to be less compromising -- and less concerned about accommodating the White House.

The blowup over the Dubai deal illustrated the new environment. Bush infuriated members by threatening to veto any congressional effort to prevent an Arab company from taking control of terminals at six U.S. seaports. Instead of falling in line, they felled the deal by joining with Democrats for a 62 to 2 committee vote against Bush. It was the breaking point for many members. Afterward, Rep. Thomas M. Davis III (R-Va.) was quoted in The Washington Post as saying, "This is probably the worst administration ever in getting Congress's opinion on anything."

Sen. John Thune (R-S.D.) is a prime example of such perceived slights. He was handpicked by the White House to challenge then-Senate Minority Leader Thomas A. Daschle (D-S.D.) in 2004. Thune entered the race under heavy White House pressure and won in part by promising to protect South Dakota's Ellsworth Air Force Base from being closed.

But when the Pentagon targeted Ellsworth for closing, Thune's complaints to White House senior officials were coldly dismissed, according to people familiar with the conversations. "Why are you whining?" was how one person familiar with the session paraphrased the White House response.

Thune declined to comment on the base closing but said, "I think Republicans want to be helpful, but the administration needs to help us to help them."

The tipping point for many lawmakers was last year's debate over the Bush plan to restructure Social Security by offering personal savings accounts. For years, House Republicans had sent word to Karl Rove, Bush's top strategist, and others that any efforts to dismantle the Social Security system could prove disastrous to them. Regardless of the merits, the legislators would say, older Americans vote in high percentages in congressional races and would likely punish the party if it tinkered with the popular program.

House Republicans in particular were already panicking about the Medicare prescription drug benefit they had passed more than a year earlier. The program was seen as too costly for conservatives and too confusing for seniors. Yet a majority of Republicans voted for it under intense lobbying from Bush and GOP congressional leaders, and several regretted it.

"Bottom line, there is a lot of buyer's remorse," said Rep. Tom Feeney (R-Fla.). If the vote were held today on the Medicare prescription drug benefit, he said, as many 120 Republicans would vote against it. "It was probably our greatest failure in my adult lifetime," he said.

So when Bush sprang the Social Security plan on them, many Republicans balked. Eventually, congressional Republicans revolted and killed what Bush had trumpeted as the top domestic priority of his second term. Another common complaint about the White House is that it asked lawmakers to take politically risky votes and did not bother to provide cover when Democrats started attacking.

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.), a Bush ally who dismissed concerns about an inattentive White House, said he regrets voting for the No Child Left Behind bill in the first term.

© 2006 The Washington Post Company

Extra Stout
03-17-2006, 04:08 PM
I guess I've been in the "realist" camp. From the Magna Carta to true republican government took the English-speaking peoples over 500 years, then it took hold in Europe a century later, and in Western Europe for good only after most every other option had failed and they had reduced their continent to rubble twice, and in Eastern Europe it took hold all of 17 years ago.

So it took from 1215 to 1989 to get Europe democratized. That, by my Texas math, is 774 years. Assuming for a moment that George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq was as great a turning point in history as the Magna Carta, I suppose we can expect the Muslim world fully to have embraced moderate republican government by the year 2777. Either that, or he's thinking those Arabs are the most mentally flexible and adaptable people in the world, as evidenced by their sparkling record over the past half-millenium, such that we can squeeze those 774 years down to, oh I don't know, ten? Twenty?

Or is Bush thinking with respect to the War on Terror, "Three years down, 771 to go?"

DarkReign
03-17-2006, 04:34 PM
I guess I've been in the "realist" camp. From the Magna Carta to true republican government took the English-speaking peoples over 500 years, then it took hold in Europe a century later, and in Western Europe for good only after most every other option had failed and they had reduced their continent to rubble twice, and in Eastern Europe it took hold all of 17 years ago.

So it took from 1215 to 1989 to get Europe democratized. That, by my Texas math, is 774 years. Assuming for a moment that George W. Bush's invasion of Iraq was as great a turning point in history as the Magna Carta, I suppose we can expect the Muslim world fully to have embraced moderate republican government by the year 2777. Either that, or he's thinking those Arabs are the most mentally flexible and adaptable people in the world, as evidenced by their sparkling record over the past half-millenium, such that we can squeeze those 774 years down to, oh I don't know, ten? Twenty?

Or is Bush thinking with respect to the War on Terror, "Three years down, 771 to go?"

That was freakin awesome. Bravo!

boutons_
03-17-2006, 05:26 PM
771 years was unnecessily long due to the amalgam of Catholic Church and Royalty holding the masses in static, benighted ignorance of the Dark Ages, very much like the Dark Ages that evangelicals + Bible-thumpers want to impose now on the USA.

We are now post-Englightenment which "should" help the Muslim countries get to just, democratic society faster than 700 years, but don't count on it. Note that where Muslim religion is strong, the countries are most ignorant and backward. That's more than a correlation.

When Ireland was the last Europen country to throw off the oppressive yoke of the Catholic church, only a couple of decades ago, is when Ireland finally and truly joined modern Europe, lifted itself magnificently out of poverty and ignorance and superstition.

I give no credence to dubya's inane, transparent bullshit about bringing democracy to Iraq and the world. He was forced into that position by the total absence of evidence of WMD and Iraq+Quaid, and Saddam-did-WTC, no matter how much "evidence" YV pulls out of his ass.

Even if dubya wwere sincere about wasting 3000 American lives to bring demcracy to Iraq, it was a 1-in-1000 longshot. Dubya has lost his bet. The civil war is in full blast, the Iraqi parliament and constitution is an omelette of shit, even if dubya refuses to call it like it is.

Extra Stout
03-17-2006, 05:31 PM
Even if dubya wwere sincere about wasting 3000 American lives to bring demcracy to Iraq, it was a 1-in-1000 longshot. Dubya has lost his bet. The civil war is in full blast, the Iraqi parliament and constitution is an omelette of shit, even if dubya refuses to call it like it is.
Indeed W has lost his best. He thought democracy would bring moderation and peace to the Middle East. Instead, we see that when given the opportunity, those people either will vote for terrorists, or for sectarian parties to go to war with each other.

Peter
03-17-2006, 05:55 PM
boutons' posts become weirder and weirder. He's crossed into that special plane where hatred breeds insanity.

boutons_
03-17-2006, 06:09 PM
M O R E!!!!

dubya's politicized, business-protecting EDA, Environmental Destruction Agency, expresses regret that EDA's permission for power plants and factories to keep polluting won't be permitted after all.

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Court Sides With States, Activists on EPA Rule

Factories Can't Modernize Without Upgrading Pollution Controls

By William Branigin

Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, March 17, 2006; 4:36 PM

A federal appeals court today blocked the Environmental Protection Agency from implementing a rule change that would have allowed power plants and factories to modernize without having to upgrade their pollution controls, a change that the court said violated the Clean Air Act.

Siding with 15 states, including New York, California and Maryland, along with several cities and environmental groups, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled that the EPA could not go ahead with a 2003 rule sought by industries, notably power-generating companies. The industry groups complained that a provision of the Clean Air Act discouraged them from modernizing their plants by requiring them to install expensive new pollution-control devices when they did so.

The states and other petitioners, including Washington, D.C., had sued the EPA over the rule change and obtained a stay in December 2003 that temporarily prevented it from taking effect while the court considered the issue.

The rule change sought by the EPA provided ways for "stationary sources of air pollution," such as power plants, refineries and factories, to avoid triggering a Clean Air Act requirement for new pollution-control equipment if they made "any physical change" that increased emissions.

Under the Clean Air Act, which was originally passed in 1970 and amended in 1990, routine maintenance, repair and replacement of plant equipment do not constitute changes requiring the new devices. The proposed change would have expanded the exemption to include upgrades that did not exceed 20 percent of the value of the plant, regardless of whether they resulted in increased emissions.

Writing for a three-judge panel of the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, Judge Judith W. Rogers said in an opinion that the court was vacating the proposed rule "because it is contrary to the plain language" of the Clean Air Act.

( "You're doing a heckuva job, EDA!" )


The ruling affects about 800 power plants and as many as 17,000 factories nationwide.

New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, the lead petitioner for the states, called the ruling "an enormous victory for clean air and for the enforcement of the law and an overwhelming rejection of the Bush administration's efforts to gut the law," the Associated Press reported. "It is a rejection of a flawed policy."

EPA spokesman John Millett said the agency is "disappointed" and is "reviewing and analyzing the opinion."

Scott H. Segal, a spokesman for a Washington-based coalition of power companies called the Electric Reliability Coordinating Council, called the decision "a step backward in the protection of air quality in the United States," AP reported. According to the group's Web site, the Clean Air Act requirement in question "is threatening the reliability of our national electrical system and unnecessarily increasing the cost of power to American consumers and businesses, while providing no additional protection to the environment."

The states that sued the EPA over the proposed rule change were New York, California, Connecticut, Delaware, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, Pennsylvania, Rhode Island, Vermont and Wisconsin. Backing them were officials representing the cities of Washington, D.C., New York and San Francisco.

© 2006 The Washington Post Company

boutons_
03-17-2006, 06:10 PM
Peter, bite my peter.

Oh, Gee!!
03-17-2006, 06:16 PM
Peter, bite my peter.


PIIHB

Peter
03-17-2006, 06:25 PM
Shut the fuck up you stupid fuck. I don't care what your politics are, left or right. "Repug" is funny if you sniffed a can of freon after hitting a quart of Wild Turkey. It's nutters like you and gtownspur who make this country's politics what it is, a grudge match between two groups of ideologue weirdos who view politics as a team sport. I've always wondered why Molly Ivins and Ann Coulter are published. I now know.