Wow Afghanistan has changed.

[2centsworth]

Begs the question how many people are Muslims because they are afraid to die?

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=49345

[Nbadan]

GTF out of here with that WorldNet Daily crap.

:lol

Before we invaded Iraq there was a good number of Christians in Iraq, but the war has forced many of these families to flee to neighboring countries.

[jochhejaam]

GTF out of here with that WorldNet Daily crap.

:lol

Before we invaded Iraq there was a good number of Christians in Iraq, but the war has forced many of these families to flee to neighboring countries.
Quantify what the "good number" is dan.

Good article 2centsworth. I guess we can add Tolerant to their religion along with Peace loving.

[Gerryatrics]

GTF out of here with that WorldNet Daily crap.

Here you go, it's no Daily Kos, or even Xinhua, but it should meet your anti-American media standards.


http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,,1734776,00.html

[xrayzebra]

GTF out of here with that WorldNet Daily crap.

:lol

Before we invaded Iraq there was a good number of Christians in Iraq, but the war has forced many of these families to flee to neighboring countries.

Hate to burst you bubble once again, but the Christians were pulling out
of Iraq long before we went into Iraq. Go to London and talk to them,
there are thousands of them living there.

[DarkReign]

God I love Islam! Such a tolerant bunch of neanderthals.

Start on side....end on the other. thats my vote.

[Vashner]

Typical American = Hey yea I am working on new CCD imager for space probe
Typical Islamonut = Hey bring me that leather.. I want to make new wife beater...

They are about 4000 years behind on tech. (Yea I know lot go to school talking about militants)

[nkdlunch]

typical islamonut: worships Allah
typical american: worships money

[Sec24Row7]

Money is real...

[DarkReign]

Money is real...

good point

[Ocotillo]

Good thing there is a democratically elected government in Afghanistan.

Bush's new world order. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.

[boutons_]

Mixing a total world view religion like Islam with backward, ignorant people produces the perversions of Islam we see. Islam itself is pretty innocent.

Exactly the same is happening in the USA, with the perversion of Christianity by ignorant, backward people and demagogic ministers with political/$$$ agendas masquerading/crusading as "Christians".

[2centsworth]

Mixing a total world view religion like Islam with backward, ignorant people produces the perversions of Islam we see. Islam itself is pretty innocent.

Exactly the same is happening in the USA, with the perversion of Christianity by ignorant, backward people and demagogic ministers with political/$$$ agendas masquerading/crusading as "Christians".
to even make the comparison is ridiculously stupid. Otherwise, you would have been dead a long time ago.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Money is real...


inflation, anyone?

[Crookshanks]

Exactly the same is happening in the USA, with the perversion of Christianity by ignorant, backward people and demagogic ministers with political/$$$ agendas masquerading/crusading as "Christians".

When's the last time (here in America) someone was prosecuted and sentenced to death for their religious beliefs? Your comparison is downright idiotic!

[boutons_]

I said nothing about US "Christians" killing non-Christians.
But I'm not surprised ya'll right-wingers have projected that idea into my post.

Take those words out of my mouth and stick them up your nose.

[Crookshanks]

No, you didn't say anything about Christians killing non-christians. However, the thread was discussing the situation in Afghanistan but you couldn't resist getting in a slam on one of the sections of America that you despise.

We weren't discussing Christians in America, so I criticized you for taking a LEFT turn!

[nkdlunch]

Money is real...

so is dogshit.

[Oh, Gee!!]

so is dogshit.


you can't buy a hooker with dogshit. trust me on that one.

[Nbadan]

Quantify what the "good number" is dan.

About 3% of the population by the last census figure...


While a precise statistical breakdown is impossible to ascertain because of likely inaccuracies in the latest census (conducted in 1997), according to best estimates, 97 percent of the population of 22 million persons are Muslim. Shi'a Muslims--predominantly Arab, but also including Turkomen, Faili Kurds, and other groups--constitute a 60 to 65 percent majority. Sunni Muslims make up 32 to 37 percent of the population (approximately 18 to 20 percent are Sunni Kurds, 12 to 15 percent Sunni Arabs, and the remainder Sunni Turkomen). The remaining approximately 3 percent of the overall population consist of Christians (Assyrians, Chaldeans, Roman Catholics, and Armenians), Yazidis, Mandaeans, and a small number of Jews.

Shi'a, although predominantly located in the south, also are a majority in Baghdad and have communities in most parts of the country. Sunnis form the majority in the center of the country and in the north.

Shi'a and Sunni Arabs are not ethnically distinct. Shi'a Arabs have supported an independent Iraq alongside their Sunni brethren since the 1920 Revolt; many Shi'a joined the Ba'ath Party and Shi'a formed the backbone of the Iraqi Army in the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq War.

Assyrians and Chaldeans are considered by many to be distinct ethnic groups, as well as the descendants of some of the earliest Christian communities. The communities speak a distinct language (Syriac). Although they do not define themselves as Arabs, the Government defines Assyrians and Chaldeans as such, evidently to encourage them to identify with the Sunni-Arab dominated regime. Christians are concentrated in the north and in Baghdad.

Yazidis are a syncretistic religious group (or a set of several groups). Many Yazidis consider themselves to be ethnically Kurdish, although some would define themselves as both religiously and ethnically distinct from Muslim Kurds. However, the Government, without any historical basis, has defined the Yazidis as Arabs. Yazidis predominately reside in the north of the country.

About.com/athethism (http://atheism.about.com/library/irf/irf02/blirf_iraq.htm)

It's when secular countries like Iraq was under Saddam, turn into Islamic-based countries, which Afghanistan is now, and Iraq is likely to become after the U.S. withdrawals it's troops from major population centers, that religious tolerance is less tolerated.

[jochhejaam]

Quantify what the "good number" is dan.

About 3% of the population by the last census figure...



About.com/athethism (http://atheism.about.com/library/irf/irf02/blirf_iraq.htm)

It's when secular countries like Iraq was under Saddam, turn into Islamic-based countries, which Afghanistan is now, and Iraq is likely to become after the U.S. withdrawals it's troops from major population centers, that religious tolerance is less tolerated.

Thanks for reaffirming the threads objective which was to showcase the gross intolerance of the Religion of Islam.

[Nbadan]

Thanks for reaffirming the threads objective which was to showcase the gross intolerance of the Religion of Islam.

Your confusing political intolerance with religious intolerance. Imagine that James Dobson got control of the Judicial, Legislative, and Executive branch here in the U.S. (actually, not difficult to imagine), and that's what you get with Islamic Republics, and why secular governments are important in the Middle East.

[Peter]

Your confusing political intolerance with religious intolerance. Imagine that James Dobson got control of the Judicial, Legislative, and Executive branch here in the U.S. (actually, not difficult to imagine), and that's what you get with Islamic Republics, and why secular governments are important in the Middle East.


...and how exactly is this country different? Really. Standard fare in American politics is to forewarn of impending doom should the other party get into power. Yawn.

[Nbadan]

U.S. makes low-key appeal in Afghan case
Associated Press



WASHINGTON- The Bush administration issued a subdued appeal Tuesday to Afghanistan to permit a Christian convert on trial for his life to practice his faith in the predominantly Muslim country.

The State Department, however, did not urge the U.S. ally in the war against terrorism to terminate the trial. Officials said the Bush administration did not want to interfere with Afghanistan's sovereignty.

The case involves an Afghan man who converted from Islam and was arrested last month after his family accused him of becoming a Christian. The conversion is a crime under Afghanistan's Islamic laws.

Undersecretary of State Nicholas Burns and department spokesman Sean McCormack asked Afghanistan to conduct the trial "in a transparent way." Burns said he told Afghan Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah, with whom he held talks at the department, that "we would follow the case closely."

San Luis Bispo (http://www.sanluisobispo.com/mld/sanluisobispo/news/politics/14152937.htm)

The fact that we are installing repressive, islamic warlords to replace repressive, fundamentalist, Islamic Taliban will go unnoticed.

[Nbadan]

...and how exactly is this country different? Really. Standard fare in American politics is to forewarn of impending doom should the other party get into power. Yawn.

Well, for one we're not a theocracy, yet.

Freedom of religious expression is still guaranteed by the constitution, but so is the separation of church and state. You see, the reason the Puritans came to the U.S. in the first place was to escape religious persecution back home.

[Peter]

Right, so the end of times hasn't come. Yawn. Time to go to dinner.

[Nbadan]

Right, so the end of times hasn't come. Yawn. Time to go to dinner.

End times? Maybe you should ask Dubya?

[Nbadan]

Despelling the myth that Islam and Democracy don't mix...


Mar. 21, 2006 12:00 AM

Regarding "Islam and democracy don't mix" (Letters, Friday):

The letter writer states that "no Muslim country would ever tolerate a democratic government." Yet the majority of the world's Muslims live peacefully under democratic governments.

Some live in the West. But many live in majority Muslim democracies like Indonesia (population 240 million) and Turkey (population 69 million). - Matt Jewett, Phoenix

Arizona Central (http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/opinions/articles/0321tuelets216.html)