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Nbadan
03-21-2006, 03:22 PM
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Esta loco Bush



LIMA, Peru - Carlos Santana quoted his old friend Jimi Hendrix in an anti-war message here Monday and said his philosophy is the antithesis of President George W. Bush's.

"I have wisdom. I feel love. I live in the present and I try to present a dimension that brings harmony and healing," the 58-year-old rock icon said. "My concept is the opposite of George W. Bush."

Santana, speaking to Peruvian journalists ahead of a Tuesday concert, said young people's opposition to the war in Iraq is reaching the dimensions of the anti-Vietnam war sentiment in the 1970s.

"There is more value in placing a flower in a rifle barrel than making war," he said. "As Jimi Hendrix used to say, musical notes have more importance than bullets."

Yahoo News (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060321/ap_en_mu/peru_santana)

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Crookshanks
03-21-2006, 03:50 PM
He's full of it - where were all these young people who were supposed to protest the war this past weekend? Most of the people were over 50 - aging hippies reliving their glorious anti-vietnam days.
boutons_
03-21-2006, 04:04 PM
"where were all these young people who were supposed to ...."

... enlist and die for the dubya's lies and incompetence?

Red-staters are yellow chicken-shits who vote tough but wimp out when Repugs need bodies to waste in Iraq.

Do you really think there are FEWER people globally who are against dubya and his bullshit Repug war? People have realized the dubya/dickhead/rummy, not facing re-election, firing, or impeachment, are in a separate reality totally immune to world-wide public opinion. But the anti-war dissent is greater, not less.
Mr. Peabody
03-21-2006, 04:11 PM
He's full of it - where were all these young people who were supposed to protest the war this past weekend? Most of the people were over 50 - aging hippies reliving their glorious anti-vietnam days.

So, is it your contention that the majority of young people in this country support the war?
Crookshanks
03-21-2006, 04:12 PM
So, is it your contention that the majority of young people in this country support the war?

Yep!
DarkReign
03-21-2006, 05:25 PM
He's full of it - where were all these young people who were supposed to protest the war this past weekend? Most of the people were over 50 - aging hippies reliving their glorious anti-vietnam days.

May I ask if you would be considered a "young" person?

What constitutes "young"? 18-24? 18-30?

I dont have any data, and I am from Michigan (not the gun rack state by any stretch). But the colleges around here are pretty vocal (Central, Western, Ferris, UM, MSU, etc). If that is any indicator, you have seriously superimposed your views onto people very much unlike yourself.
Peter
03-21-2006, 05:58 PM
Most of the "young" don't give a shit today.
Nbadan
03-21-2006, 06:06 PM
Most of the "young" don't give a shit today.

Shit, I hate it when Peter's right. I don't know what it will take to get more young people from being politically epathetic, especially because so much of their future is being decided by politicians today. Maybe when we go into Iran the young will finally take notice. Shit, by then it will be too late.
Peter
03-21-2006, 06:08 PM
...or who don't give a shit when they face the prospect of being stuck in ever worsening entitlement programs for the rest of their lives?
Nbadan
03-21-2006, 06:14 PM
...or who don't give a shit when they face the prospect of being stuck in ever worsening entitlement programs for the rest of their lives?

Who wouldn't be in such debt, of course, without the Bush tax-cuts and uncontrolled spending by a supposedly 'conservative' legislature since 01. You gotta remember, those aren't just IOU's in the SS accounts, those are promises by the U.S. Government to pay a debt, and if we can't pay those debts, then we can't pay our foreign debts either, and were all broke.
Peter
03-21-2006, 06:16 PM
Irregardless, those programs are on the fast track to hell. Higher payroll tax rates and higher retirement ages are coming up.
Nbadan
03-21-2006, 07:17 PM
Irregardless, those programs are on the fast track to hell. Higher payroll tax rates and higher retirement ages are coming up.

Which begs the question, if we're broke then what the hell are we doing in Iran and Iraq?
Peter
03-21-2006, 07:31 PM
The obligations aren't due today. Those military expenditures are a drop in the bucket, though.
Nbadan
03-22-2006, 12:19 AM
Irregardless, those programs are on the fast track to hell. Higher payroll tax rates and higher retirement ages are coming up.

Blah, there's always raising the maximum contribution level per year and means testing.
Nbadan
03-22-2006, 12:21 AM
Those military expenditures are a drop in the bucket, though.

2 Trillion dollars, or what analyst figure the longer term costs of the wars, is 'a drop in the bucket'?