Why is everyone so upset!!!

[texbound]

2004-2005 Result
March OPPONENT RESULT REC
Fri 18 Charlotte W 93-76 50-15
Sun 20 at Detroit L 101-110 50-16
Mon 21 at New York L 75-88 50-17
Wed 23 at Indiana L 93-100 50-18
Fri 25 Atlanta W 111-95 51-18
Sun 27 Houston W 83-70 52-18
Wed 30 Seattle W 89-76 53-18

APRIL OPPONENT RESULT REC
Fri 1 at Denver L 84-102 53-19
Sat 2 LA Lakers W 95-94 54-19
Wed 6 LA Clippers W 91-82 55-19
Thu 7 at Dallas L 68-104 55-20
Sat 9 at LA Clips W (OT) 125-124 56-20
Sun 10 at GS W (OT) 136-134 57-20
Tue 12 Portland W 95-89 58-20
Wed 13 at Utah L 91-93 58-21
Sat 16 Memphis W 97-75 59-21
Mon 18 at Memphis L 92-94 59-22
Wed 20 at Minnesota L 73-95 59-23
SA Spurs record with 18 gms remaining in 2004-05 reg season =
10-8 (doesn't look like SPAM to me)

2004-05 result NBA CHAMPIONS



Compare that to this year:

Fri 17 Phoenix W 108-102 51-14
Sat 18 at Houston W 92-77 52-14
Tue 21 Golden State W 107-96 53-14
Wed 22 at Denver L 92-104 53-15
Fri 24 at Portland W 98-79 54-15
Sun 26 at Seattle L 102-106 54-16

4-2 so far with 12 games left. So, the Spurs would have to go 6-6 to match last years finish.

2005-2006 Upcoming Games Schedule
MARCH OPPONENT
Tue 28 at LA Clippers
Thu 30 at LA Lakers
APRIL OPPONENT
Sat 1 Washington
Tue 4 at Utah
Wed 5 Sacramento
Fri 7 Dallas
Sun 9 Memphis
Tue 11 Seattle
Thu 13 Orlando
Sun 16 at Minnesota
Mon 17 Utah
Wed 19 at Houston

[DieMrBond]

Don't forget Timmy was out for much of that with his ankle(s)...

[texbound]

I understand that Timmy was out, the point I'm trying to make is that they weren't firing on all cylinders heading into the playoffs.

[boutons_]

It's stupid to compare Spurs 06 to Spurs 05, team or record.

The 06 Spurs aren't playing the 05 Spurs in the playoffs, and aren't in HCA race against the 05 Spurs or any 05 team.

The only teams and records that count now are the 06 records and teams.

[texbound]

All I'm saying is that last night was just a loss. Nothing more, nothing less.

And the Spurs were in HCA race against Phoenix last year until Duncan went down.

[boutons_]

"just a loss. Nothing more, nothing less"

ok, why not apply that logic and just lose all 82 games, or lose all the games after the ASB? why not just rest for the playoffs?

[texbound]

It's stupid to compare Spurs 06 to Spurs 05, team or record.

How is it stupid to compare the 06 Spurs with the 05 Spurs?

I would give it to you if you said it's stupid to compare the 03 Spurs with the 06 Spurs, because that was a different team with and different situation. However, this is virtually the same cast of characters as last year and just like last year, this team is hobbling into the playoffs. I don't think it's stupid to compare the two years.

[texbound]

"just a loss. Nothing more, nothing less"

I said that out of context. I'm sure the Spurs are upset about the loss.
I meant that for us as Spurs fans (hence the title of the thread)

[Leetonidas]

"just a loss. Nothing more, nothing less"

ok, why not apply that logic and just lose all 82 games, or lose all the games after the ASB? why not just rest for the playoffs?

Don't be a dumbass. That's going a little overboard, and you know it.

[Solid D]

Potential Eastern Conference Finals opponent lost and the Spurs had a chance to pick up a game in the win column. Now the Spurs will have to hope the Pistons lose three more than the Spurs from this point on, to gain home court advantage.

[SequSpur]

Potential Eastern Conference Finals opponent lost and the Spurs had a chance to pick up a game in the win column. Now the Spurs will have to hope the Pistons lose three more than the Spurs from this point on, to gain home court advantage.


Ya, most don't get it.

The Spurs don't give a shit about anything but the playoffs. I've come to realize that. The problem is, they are starting to put their fans into the same mode.

[SpursWoman]

Why is everyone so upset!!!


I can't speak for anyone else, but for me it'd have to be because of the fact that I have to go and clean up after the tornado that went through my kitchen. :fro :lol

[ALVAREZ6]

Yeah, the Spurs should fuckin start taking every game seriously.


If they go up against Detroit in the finals, they will regret losing these bullshit games and maybe will learn something about the importance of every game.



When Detroit went through their amazing start in the the first half of the season, all the Spurs could do was hope that they will stop dropping some games. Well, they have done just that, and the Spurs haven't taken advantage of it.

They've had perfect opportunities to take HCA.

[Kori Ellis]

Sun 20 at Detroit L 101-110 50-16
Mon 21 at New York L 75-88 50-17
Wed 23 at Indiana L 93-100 50-18

Holy cow, the Spurs had a 3 game losing streak last March?!? I forgot all about that. I would love to look back and see how many fans were leaping off the bandwagon after that Indiana game.

[ALVAREZ6]

The Pistons are 8-5 so far in March.


That is exactly what the Spurs could have hoped for...

[SenorSpur]

I said that out of context. I'm sure the Spurs are upset about the loss.
I meant that for us as Spurs fans (hence the title of the thread)

Why am I still upset? Because rather than this team rounding into playoff form, they are literally giving away easy, games to inferior teams.

I'm not saying they won't come around and I'm not predicting doom and gloom. I'm simply still "pissed" because I'm tired of seeing them get "pushed" around during late stages of the games (Denver and Seattle). I'm tired of seeing them make fucking mental mistakes (like the Horry push out with 35 seconds left, where he should have instead called a timeout) that cost them possessions.

It's bad enough that they are turning the ball over at a high rate, but to see "bonehead" plays down the stretch of games (like turning the ball over on critical possessions, like failing to block out on the defensive glass, like failing to close out on clutch shooters, like giving up 4-point plays) all of which are inexcusable for an experienced team like the Spurs.

Hey all teams have lapses - we know this. However, they should be putting the "squeeze" on these inferior teams - not bailing them out.

In fact, all Spurs championship teams of the past few seasons were playing their "best" brand of ball heading into the playoffs.

Guess you can tell I'm still pissed. The 24 hour rule usually works with me, but not this time.

[Solid D]

Sun 20 at Detroit L 101-110 50-16[/COLOR]
Mon 21 at New York L 75-88 50-17
Wed 23 at Indiana L 93-100 50-18



Holy cow, the Spurs had a 3 game losing streak last March?!? I forgot all about that. I would love to look back and see how many fans were leaping off the bandwagon after that Indiana game.

Yeah, Tim sprained his ankle in the 1st 2 minutes in Detroit...then they dropped the next two games, as well.

[texbound]

I can't speak for anyone else, but for me it'd have to be because of the fact that I have to go and clean up after the tornado that went through my kitchen.

I hear you on that one. I used to be like that, but then I realized that there was nothing I could do to change it. Now I just go to sleep after a game (win or lose).

[Kori Ellis]

Yeah, Tim sprained his ankle in the 1st 2 minutes in Detroit...then they dropped the next two games, as well.


Yeah I clearly remember the ankle sprain loss (we were at a GTG at Kennedy's) but I just don't recall the fan reaction when they dropped the next two.

[DieMrBond]

Think "it's the end of the world as we know it!", and that probably summed it up about right :)

[SpursWoman]

I hear you on that one. I used to be like that, but then I realized that there was nothing I could do to change it. Now I just go to sleep after a game (win or lose).


I just meant the mess I've made the last 2 nights of cooking dinner. :lol :lol

I don't get all suicidal/depressed/mad/emotional/hormonal/etc. when the Spurs lose....there's really not a lot I can do about that except send as much mojo their way as I can. Having to clean up after myself in the kitchen is about the only thing that really upsets me.

:makemyday :oops :lol

[sanman53]

Dang, 68-104 last year vs Dallas?

[boutons_]

"this team is hobbling into the playoffs"

Not true. Tim and Manu are playing at 100%.
Tim especially has been a huge surprise and relief.

[texbound]

Not true. Tim and Manu are playing at 100%.
Tim especially has been a huge surprise and relief.

Manu might be close to 100%, but you're crazy if you think Tim is 100%. Tim will not be 100% until next year. Just like in the playoffs last year, Tim will just have to play through it. Sure he shown signs, but the man is hobbled. Manu just got back into the swing of things only to see something happen to Parker. I'd say this team is hobbling towards the playoffs. There certainly not hitting on all cylinders.

[polandprzem]

Yeah I clearly remember the ankle sprain loss (we were at a GTG at Kennedy's) but I just don't recall the fan reaction when they dropped the next two.

It was all about No Tim no win.

I remember Manu telling that taht games was realy strange because of that they didn't knew what was with Timmy.

Timmy even on the bench giving some kind of faith or whatever you want to call it.

I think with healthy Timmy they didn't even lost 10 games. 100% not even 10 games

[exstatic]

I don't get all suicidal/depressed/mad/emotional/hormonal/etc. when the Spurs lose....there's really not a lot I can do about that except send as much mojo their way as I can.

Someone who gets it.

[exstatic]

Not true. Tim and Manu are playing at 100%.

Not true. The huge difference between last year's team and this year's team is Tim's continued lack of lateral mobility and lift on D. He can no longer cover for Nazr's shitty D. See: the Ludden thread on opponent's shooting percentage. It's 47% over the last 12.

[boutons_]

"Tim will not be 100% until next year"

that has been the prognosis, but if you've watched Tim in the last 2 or 3 games, he's been bouncing around and moving as well as ever.

He is NOT defending the paint as well, but now I'm beginning to think that's not/no-longer his PF limiting him, but a protective/preventative policy of Tim not being aggressive on defense, of Tim not putting himself at risk for defense.

[LilMissSPURfect]

I ain't upset!!! I just want this nonsense to end!...bring on the the lakers , sac town or whom ever so we can hurry up and schedule our parade!!!!! THIS time we schedule it in PERMANENT MARKER .... not that dry erase stuff Detroit brought in here last year!

GO SPURS!

[Darrin]

I understand that Timmy was out, the point I'm trying to make is that they weren't firing on all cylinders heading into the playoffs.

Conceding your point that 2005 has something to do with 2006 (tell that to the 1998-99 Bulls):

Look at the inexperienced teams the Spurs had to play to get to the NBA Finals. I'm not trying to discredit the Champions, but the last time that Denver made consecutive playoff appearances, I had just entered grade school. The last time that Seattle made the second round, Vin Baker was an All-Star and Gary Payton was the team leader. The last time the Phoenix Suns were in the Conference Finals, they were led by another MVP - Charles Barkley, a full five-years removed from playing in the league, and 12 years removed from that season.

My point being that San Antonio, because they had no serious threats in the Western Conference, were able to use that inexperience to their advantage. I mean, didn't the Spurs drop game one to the Nuggets? Do that to the Kings, where Mike Bibby, Bonzi Wells, and Ron Artest have been to the Conference Finals, and they may actually make the Spurs pay for it. Not in a series loss, rather a tougher series than they bargained for. Do that to the Dallas Mavericks, a team that came back from a 2-0 deficit to the Houston Rockets last season, and who's team leaders have been in the Conference Finals, and watch them give the Spurs a fight for their life. If they encounter Phoenix or Denver in the Conference Finals, both will be more experienced than last season.

My point is not that the Spurs are vulnerable. My point is that they are facing a more difficult road to the Finals than last season, and if you are fan - don't flip out - but be concerned if they aren't playing the best basketball of the season by season's end.

[texbound]

Conceding your point that 2005 has something to do with 2006 (tell that to the 1998-99 Bulls)

Huh? The Bulls were broken up before this season. No Jordan, Pippen, Kerr, Rodman etc etc.

[Darrin]

Huh? The Bulls were broken up before this season. No Jordan, Pippen, Kerr, Rodman etc etc.

I know. That was simply a little joke. That's why it's got parenthesis around it, and isn't seperated by a hyphen - it's not that important.

[cheguevara]

I ain't upset. I can't wait for the playoffs. Screw the records and HCA, let's get this shit rolling!