Pistons vs. Suns

[FreshPrince22]

!!!!

[ALVAREZ6]

Go Suns!

[HB22inSA]

Pistons will destroy the Suns.

[boutons_]

The enemies of my enemies are my friends, the Suns!!

[Warlord23]

Suns will get killed on the boards, they have no frontcourt size. They need to shoot lights out to keep this lead.

[Trainwreck2100]

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7081/avp0rg.jpg

[samikeyp]

Suns are going to get worked.

[FreshPrince22]

Suns are lighting it up.

[Warlord23]

So far so good for the Suns .. shooting 68% to Detroit's 41%

[DarkReign]

Jesus....Pheonix just doesnt miss.

They arent dominating anything...they just hit contested jumpers 70% of the time.

Either they cool off, or we're fucked.

[Xylus]

It's going to be difficult for the Pistons to win if they keep defending the Suns like this. 51-39, Suns are shooting 71% and Diaw to the line. Suns need to keep building on this lead, because Detroit's going to make some kind of comeback. It's inevitable.

Also, I don't think I've ever loved Barbosa more. Notice that Nash is on the court, yet he hasn't touched it since he came off the bench. They keep giving the ball to Barbosa, who keeps causing problems with his blinding speed.

[bdubya]

They're shooting 71%, and only up ten or twelve? <yawn> wake me up for the second-half lockdown.....

[FreshPrince22]

Fuckin A...

[boutons_]

Suns can't shoot 70% for 48 minutes, but Pistons can shoot 43+% for 48 minutes, so Suns gonna lose, as their FG% drops off and Pistons shut them down in crunch time.

[freedom&justice]

Just like that, the suns are up 12. :depressed come on, play some D!

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I'm just pissed ABC chose not to do the game in HD...

[freedom&justice]

defense is effort. they're not really exerting themselves out there.

[FreshPrince22]

Pistons don't play D.

[FreshPrince22]

What the fuck kind of shot was that from Raja Bell...

Total Momentum killer. FUCK!

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

He traveled but helluva shot...

[freedom&justice]

Pistons don't play D.

Oh I think they do...but only when they feel like it.

[DDS4]

When the Suns are on....they are frickin' scary.

I get the feeling the Pistons are kinda "coasting" til the playoffs start...am I wrong?

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

I guess that depends on how they play in the playoffs. They seem to turn it on and off on the defensive end...

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

They can't get anyone better than Jackson and Pippen? Those guys are terrible...

[themvp]

Go Suns Go Suns

[drivanroca]

Phoenix 63, Detroit 49

[freedom&justice]

They can't get anyone better than Jackson and Pippen? Those guys are terrible...

Yeah, I wish it were on TNT. Their announcers are a little better at least. And Scottie Pippen seems to just be itching to say something negative about the pistons no matter what, after he tried to jinx the pistons' whole season with that 70-win crap.
He's a bandwagon heat fan.

[boutons_]

Pistons will turn up the D, Suns won't get stops, Pistons will win.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Grant Hill in the HOF? What a joke...

[Duncan21]

whats wrong with nash?

[Warlord23]

Pistons +11 on offensive boards as expected. However, the frontcourt of Wallace/Wallace/Prince/McDyess should be having its way with the Suns' interior D. Given the matchups, it's somewhat surprising that Billups, Hamilton and Delk have attempted 21 of the Pistons' 48 FGAs.

And where is the vaunted Piston D?

[freedom&justice]

Pistons +11 on offensive boards as expected. However, the frontcourt of Wallace/Wallace/Prince/McDyess should be having its way with the Suns' interior D. Given the matchups, it's somewhat surprising that Billups, Hamilton and Delk have attempted 21 of the Pistons' 48 FGAs.

And where is the vaunted Piston D?

It was MIA.

[themvp]

whats wrong with nash?


He didnt take a shot in the first half! :oops

[freedom&justice]

He didnt take a shot in the first half! :oops

He didn't need to. his teammates did more than enough. Nash is grinning like the cat that got the canary. :depressed

[Warlord23]

Here come the Pistons..

[Xylus]

Right on schedule.

Ben Wallace is just killing the Suns.

[FreshPrince22]

Sheed will be suspended against the Hornets. Just got his 16th.

Seems like everytime you think we're gonna crank it up and pull close, they hit a big shot.

[ABDENOUR POWER]

At least Sheed got that T for defending a teammate, not some stupid thing of his own....

[ABDENOUR POWER]

Ben Wallace is just killing the Suns.

...and now the Suns are trying their best to kill Ben Wallace....

[Warlord23]

It's not all jumpshooting, though. Marion is 10 of 11 from the field with 7 of them being layups. Barbosa is 4-5 with 4 layups. Diaw is 5-7 with 3 layups. The Pistons need to protect the paint.

[freedom&justice]

...And Rasheed gets his 16th tech of the season. :pctoss
Him, Ben and Chauncey have gotten techs. I just hope Rip and Tay don't follow suit..

[themvp]

Here we go...

[FreshPrince22]

Damn... That three would have tied it.

[themvp]

Damn... That three would have tied it.

At least he tried it :lol

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Those three Ts are the difference. You can't give a team like PHX free points...

[T.F. Storm]

Damn... That three would have tied it.
Least we'll get the next posession.

[freedom&justice]

...and now the Suns are trying their best to kill Ben Wallace....

Yep. He gets clobbered and 99% of the time it isn't called. He has 4 fouls; so you can pretty much tell it's not called both ways.

[Warlord23]

Billups is warming up for the 4th. Suns have cooled off slightly, and Det has a 16-3 edge on the offensive glass. The pressure is squarely on the Suns to keep up the pace in this quarter.

[FreshPrince22]

WOW at these refs. WOW...

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Some weak ass calls in this game..

[DarkReign]

fucking Steve Javey and his personal vendetta...

Seriously, he should be beaten with a stick

[FreshPrince22]

Pistons by 3!!! Despite the refs!

[DarkReign]

Is Javey like this with the Spurs as well?

[T.F. Storm]

Sometimes I think the Pistons intentionally put themselves behind just so they have a challenge. :lol:

[Trainwreck2100]

Is Javey like this with the Spurs as well?


I belive ours is Bennete Salvatore

[freedom&justice]

Pistons take the lead, finally. Suns' weak interior D is being exposed.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

PHX, if they make it, won't win more than one game against the Spurs...

[DarkReign]

I belive ours is Bennete Salvatore

Ahhh, we know that prick real well too.

Didnt he ref game 7 last year?

[Trainwreck2100]

Pistons take the lead, finally. Suns' weak interior D is being exposed.


Not really exposed, but exploited.

[T.F. Storm]

Pistons take the lead, finally. Suns' weak interior D is being exposed.
Seriously. Lets just do Rip to Ben alleyoops the rest of the game like the 3 in a row we did last quarter.

[Xylus]

Pistons take the lead, finally. Suns' weak interior D is being exposed.
I don't think it's any secret that the Suns have weak interior D...it's been absolutely terrible ever since they lost Kurt Thomas to a foot injury. And even when they had him on the court, it wasn't that great to begin with.

[freedom&justice]

Ahhh, we know that prick real well too.

Didnt he ref game 7 last year?

Don't forget Dan Crawford.

[FreshPrince22]

Don't forget Dan Crawford.


:cuss

[Trainwreck2100]

Don't forget Dan Crawford.

There's 2 Crawfords

[freedom&justice]

There's 2 Crawfords


Yeah, Danny and Joey. I meant Danny.

[Warlord23]

Is Delk making a difference to the Piston bench so far? Or is he a necessary evil that has to be be tolerated so Billups doesn't get burnt out?

[Trainwreck2100]

Yeah, Danny and Joey. I meant Danny.


Is he the black one?

[DarkReign]

wow

[DarkReign]

wowx2

[Warlord23]

Billups is the man.

[themvp]

I have a feeling of overtime.

[DarkReign]

Billups is the man.

Yes....yes he is.

[T.F. Storm]

Billups is the man.

[DarkReign]

I love days like today.

Pistons at 1pm, Red Wings at 3:30pm.

Ahhhhhh...love it!

[ABDENOUR POWER]

Billups is f'ing sick.

[freedom&justice]

Mr. Big Shot. I wish Sheed would get in the post. He is a 4, after all..

[DarkReign]

I wish Sheed would get in the post. He is a 4, after all..

Who is this "Rasheed Wallace" you speak of?

[DarkReign]

whew

kind of a bail out call there.

Sink both and thats game.

[DarkReign]

Damnit!

[DarkReign]

thats game.

[DarkReign]

^posting to himself.

[Xylus]

Mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake.

Terrible 2nd half. Repulsive, almost.

[FreshPrince22]

BANG! Pistons up 6!

Diaw with 6 TOs. Big Ben with 5 steals :spin

[freedom&justice]

Is he the black one?

Yeah, he is.

[Warlord23]

Game over. They could've tried hack-a-Ben a tad earlier.

[T.F. Storm]

Nice shot by Marion.

[FreshPrince22]

Shawn Marion is RIDICULOUS. 32 points on 13 of 15 shooting.

[freedom&justice]

That's should do it. Chauncey is gonna hit his free-throws.

[boutons_]

Game goes to script, Suns collapse in face of serious defense and can't make stops.

[Vizzini]

Pistons at 1pm, Red Wings at 3:30pm.

As Dr. Dre says "Damn right it was a good day!"

[bdubya]

Spot a few double-digit leads, take the game over on D, win.....just another day at the Palace. Hee hee hee.
:fro

[FreshPrince22]

MVP.... MVP.... MVP.... MVP

[T.F. Storm]

:lol Like someone pointed out on the Pistons board, the Sun isnt shining in more than one way here in the D today.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Shawn Marion is RIDICULOUS. 32 points on 13 of 15 shooting.


He's the best player on the Suns and, IMO, that's what makes the Nash MVP talk laughable...

[freedom&justice]

He's the best player on the Suns and, IMO, that's what makes the Nash MVP talk laughable...

I agree. Marion's been unbelievable for them, especially this season.

[DarkReign]

He's the best player on the Suns and, IMO, that's what makes the Nash MVP talk laughable...

I wouldnt have believed that statement until today.

I think youre spot on.

(to be fair to Nash, he isnt the one trumpeting his own horn...in typical classy Canadian fashion, he always passes praise onto his teammates)

[freedom&justice]

Suns were outscored, 60-39 in the 2nd half. :D

[Xylus]

The knock against Marion is that he doesn't have the ability to take over a game. He's an efficient finisher, rebounder, free-throw shooter, etc., but he never really imposes his will on the opposing team. An important quality of an MVP is that ability to demoralize the other team through domination.

[FreshPrince22]

Billups vs. Nash in the 2 head to head games:
Billups: 31 ppg (55.3% shooting), 8 apg
Nash: 15.5 ppg (35.5% shooting), 8.5 apg

But I guess MVP's don't have to play defense. :lol

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Yeah, but at least Marion plays both ends of the floor equally efficient. I don't think anyone can say that about Nash...

[Xylus]

Yeah, but at least Marion plays both ends of the floor equally efficient. I don't think anyone can say that about Nash...
Fortunately, I wasn't talking about Nash. At this point of the season, I'm not sure who I'd vote for as MVP.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

Fortunately, I wasn't talking about Nash. At this point of the season, I'm not sure who I'd vote for as MVP.


I know you weren't. I was just reiterating that Marion is their best player.

Historically, the MVP has come from one of the top 2 regular season teams.

Considering that it's SA and Detroit, I doubt the trend continues...

[Brutalis]

MVP.... MVP.... MVP.... MVP
laff laff laff laff

[jochhejaam]

10 days ago I wouldn't have regarded Chauncey as the top contender for MVP but the way he's played lately especially outperforming Dirk and Nash in recent games I would think he deserves strong consideration for it.

[Marklar MM]

Is Delk making a difference to the Piston bench so far? Or is he a necessary evil that has to be be tolerated so Billups doesn't get burnt out?


He gives us a scoring threat off the bench to compliment Dice. Plays rather similar to Mike James, but may not defend as well as James.

[JealousOnesNV]

10 days ago I wouldn't have regarded Chauncey as the top contender for MVP but the way he's played lately especially outperforming Dirk and Nash in recent games I would think he deserves strong consideration for it.
You right but he aint gonna get it though. Nash will probably be the one to get it or maybe Wade. :depressed

[FreshPrince22]

He gives us a scoring threat off the bench to compliment Dice. Plays rather similar to Mike James, but may not defend as well as James.

You gotta remember that Mike was here when there weren't touch-fouls called everytime you breath on a perimeter player. Mike's D hasn't been the same since.

[mike detroit]

hahaha
from the article on ESPN.com:

The Pistons spent a lot of time arguing with officials, leading to technicals against Billups, Ben Wallace and Rasheed Wallace.

It got so testy that Mason was admonished by official Steve Javie for contorting his face after a call was made against the Pistons.

[1Parker1]

Man, watching the Pistons today....they don't even need a freakin bench to win. Starting 5 + McDyess are more than enough. It doesn't seem as if the minutes will take a toll on them either.

What's their remaining schedule like anyways? So much for us Spurs fans hoping that the Pistons would lose in their "rough" stretch playing Miami, Dallas, and Pheonix. :(

[1Parker1]

Oh and Chauncey's recent performances against Dirk and Nash definitely helped his MVP standing...I still don't think they'll give it to him. More than likey, I think it will go to Kobe if the Lakers can continue to win like they have been.

[DisgruntledLionFan#54,927]

NO, Miami, Orlando, Indy, Cleveland, Toronto, NY, Milwaukee, Washington...

Not exactly a cake walk...

[samikeyp]

It got so testy that Mason was admonished by official Steve Javie for contorting his face after a call was made against the Pistons.

Damn....Javie will look to slap a tech on anyone!

[1Parker1]

^:rolleyes Yea that is. Miami and maybe Cleaveland. 2 losses at most I predict.

[1Parker1]

So is Sheed officially suspended next game? If so, good thing it's not the Miami game next.

[Pistons < Spurs]

So is Sheed officially suspended next game? If so, good thing it's not the Miami game next.


Well I suppose it's not 'official' till the league office notifies Sheed and the team........but don't expect him to play Tuesday!

[1Parker1]

So the new rule is that after the 16th tech, you get suspended for a game? And then for every other tech? So if Sheed gets a tech in the Miami game and another in the Pacers game, he could miss the Cavs game?

[Pistons < Spurs]

So the new rule is that after the 16th tech, you get suspended for a game? And then for every other tech? So if Sheed gets a tech in the Miami game and another in the Pacers game, he could miss the Cavs game?


You got it! :worthy:

[1Parker1]

^:lol

[ALVAREZ6]

fucking Billups....

[ABDENOUR POWER]

:elephant