The World Cup thread!

[MannyIsGod]

You guys won't have to listen to Gerry, because you're going to hear me bitch about that bullshit non exsistant foul that earned a bullshit PK

[MannyIsGod]

Well Poland, I understand that your team just got screwed cause they suck, but I'm getting pretty tired of having to put up with bullshit

[MannyIsGod]

Man, I'm going to see that replay of that call on Oneywu all the fucking time and its just going to piss me off more each time I see it. What bullshit.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

I'm even more pissed than the fact that my internet keeps screwing up.

I've seen Sean Marks commit harder fouls than that.

[velik_m]

You guys won't have to listen to Gerry, because you're going to hear me bitch about that bullshit non exsistant foul that earned a bullshit PK

it could be worse - you could be down in goals and players, like czechs.

[MannyIsGod]

Well, fuck. That was a hell of a nice goal from Dempsy and Beasly. Hopefully we can get 2 of those in the 2nd half.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Fucking German ref...fucking Cox Communications.

[MannyIsGod]

Man, the task is so daunting now. 2 goals in 45 minutes is a big deal to ask for a team that has managed to put up 2 points and only one of their own full doing in 2 1/2 games. I really feel completely screwed by that call, but I hope Arena finally throws caution to the wind. A tie isn't good enough for a godamn thing, so he better go for the win. Italy is taking care of business.

[Phenomanul]

Bogus Penalty kick.... too bad Bravo doesn't play for Ghana... :madrun

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao

[Spurologist]

That ref is seriously fucked in the head.

Now, Mark Cuban is pissed off at the world and pays the ref so the US can lose.

[MannyIsGod]

Seriously, what the fuck man? After a ton of missed PKs, that bullshit earns one? Man, Americans who don't know shit about the Cup are going to leave with a bad taste in their mouths. Four years for this? Fuck.

[Spurologist]

Dempsey is now the best player in the US.

Donovan needs a bib from choke job he is delivering

[whottt]

Americans don't get into tricycle racing either...that doesn't mean they don't get it.

There's a reason America is the least fucked up country in the World...and 99% of that has to do with the fact that we realize Soccer sucks and the rest of the word is more corrupt...

[MannyIsGod]

Donovan is still better than Dempsy because Donovan plays much better all around. Dempsy might be better offensivly but thats it.

Either way Dempsy is playing bad ass and I'm glad he of all people got the goal. Do Texas proud baby!

[MannyIsGod]

Yeah, I call bullshit about

1) America being the least fucked up country.
2) Soccer sucking.

[Spurologist]

Donovan is still better than Dempsy because Donovan plays much better all around. Dempsy might be better offensivly but thats it.

Either way Dempsy is playing bad ass and I'm glad he of all people got the goal. Do Texas proud baby!

True but I am soley making that decision on this world cup. Donovan hasn't done jack. Dempsey, who barely gets playing time, has already made an impact.

[MannyIsGod]

Everytime I see that bullshit call it pisses me off so much

[whottt]

Yeah, I call bullshit about

1) America being the least fucked up country.
2) Soccer sucking.


That's because you are a good dude at heart and trying to be fair and open minded. Doesn't mean you are right.

[MannyIsGod]

Fuck you essie. Stay down bitch.

[MannyIsGod]

motherfucker looks up to find the ref then acts like he's hurt. What a bitch.

[whottt]

Seriously, why does everyone always act like Americans don't know about Soccer? We all play it as kids...we were the first country outside of England to play in an international Soccer contest...we had the second or third professional Soccer League in the World...and when Women's Soccer was introduced we dominated it as much as any male team has dominated Men's Soccer(women's team has first tier athletes, men's team has 5th ot 6th). We just found other stuff we like better. The Horse and carriage isn't going to come back in style here...and neither is Soccer.

PS...go read about how our team is being treated over there and the measures they have to take for their safety.

[MannyIsGod]

Fucking a Beasly! Go!

[Spurologist]

Johnson in.























NOW

[MannyIsGod]

Arena is too damn conservative in situatoins like this

[MannyIsGod]

They need a goal here. BAd

[Spurologist]

That grass has cost the US two goals

There better be 5 minutes of extra time at least

[MannyIsGod]

Mcbride got knocked down, where's our pk? :rolleyes

[MannyIsGod]

Beasley got knocked down, wheres our PK? :rolleyes

[MannyIsGod]

35 minutes to go. Fuck

[Spurologist]

The ref thinks those little fouls will make up for the goal but he coudn't be for wrong.

It's a PK for a PK

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Arena is too damn conservative in situatoins like this

Larry Brown is available.

[Spurologist]

Bout time

[MannyIsGod]

30 minutes to go, and we finally see EJ. FINALLY. might be too little too fucking late though.

[whottt]

Soccer=Running
Ghana = All Black Guys
America = All(American )White Guys except for like 1(who incidentally, is the only guy who looks like he belongs on the field in this game).

I admire the optimism of Johnny Blaze and Manny.


I think I understand Soccer well enough.

[Spurologist]

Soccer=Running
Ghana = All Black Guys
America = All(American )White Guys except for like 1(who incidentally, is the only guy who looks like he belongs on the field in this game).

I admire the optimism of Johnny Blaze and Manny.


I think I understand Soccer well enough.

3 blacks and yes speed kills

[MannyIsGod]

Not The Post!

[MannyIsGod]

Man, this WC is killing me.

[whottt]

This dickhead announcer needs to be slapped for acting like a missed goal is winning the Superbowl.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Goddamnit!

[MannyIsGod]

Com'on guys. fucking com'on

[MannyIsGod]

Fuckkkkk.

[MannyIsGod]

Damnit! 2 huge chances that come up empty. Fuck!

[MannyIsGod]

22 minutes. Com'on. Fuck.

[Spurologist]

It's time to put 5 forwards up. Full steam ahead.

Do something Arena. FUCK

[MannyIsGod]

20 minutes to score 2 goals. :(

[Spurologist]

20 minutes to score 2 goals. :(

25

[MannyIsGod]

EJ is fast, but those Ghana fuckers are faster.


And they dive well. BuLLSHIT.

[Spurologist]

Conrad just gave the US another lifeline

[MannyIsGod]

I hate this ref.

[Spurologist]

That's a foul.

Fucking ref thinks he is making up for the PK.

[MannyIsGod]

Motherfuckers get hurt with every slight touch. Bitches.

[MannyIsGod]

That's a foul.

Fucking ref thinks he is making up for the PK.No shit!

[Spurologist]

I don't want to see that PK any more. It's literally sickening

[whottt]

I think the golaie for team USA is also the produce manager at the HEB around the corner from me.

[Spurologist]

Get the fuck up. Time wasting at its best

[MannyIsGod]

Time wasting bitches. Man, this match is going to leave a really bad taste in my mouth.

[MannyIsGod]

Make it count.

[MannyIsGod]

Horrible ball.

[MannyIsGod]

3 opportunities wasted in the 2nd half.

[whottt]

Horrible ball.


Don't be harsh...his real job is a paper delivery guy.

[MannyIsGod]

God, I hate these wasted balls. I fucking hate them.

[Spurologist]

US needs some wing players.

[Phenomanul]

Soccer=Running
Ghana = All Black Guys
America = All(American )White Guys except for like 1(who incidentally, is the only guy who looks like he belongs on the field in this game).

I admire the optimism of Johnny Blaze and Manny.


I think I understand Soccer well enough.


whottt, I usually agree with most everything you say... but coming to the realization that fútbol is a kickass sport may be too late for you to understand.... Another issue is the fact that the US's superiority complex doesn't allow the sport to be embraced... that problem being of a systemic nature.

[Spurologist]

whottt, I usually agree with most everything you say... but coming to the realization that fútbol is a kickass sport may be too late for you to understand.... Another issue is the fact that the US's superiority complex doesn't allow the sport to be embraced... that problem being of a systemic nature.

100000000% correct

[MannyIsGod]

That was better, but we need perfect now.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

What a little bitch!

[MannyIsGod]

the ref needs to add 10 fucking minutes the way these guys waste it

[Spurologist]

Don't believe this shit, people. This is purely gamesmanship. Sacrifice for time

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Maybe these guys should try out for the NFL...they have getting the ball over the upright down fucking pat.

[MannyIsGod]

Ok at this point I'd like for the US to score just for posterity. I'm leaning to believe that this game is over.

[MannyIsGod]

sigh

[Spurologist]

that was the last gasp

[MannyIsGod]

I'm proud of my team. They fought. :(

[Spurologist]

Convey is a horrible passer

[MannyIsGod]

Man, I'm tired of watching bullshit fouls when people go down. These motherfuckers DIVE DIVE DIVE DIVE

[Spurologist]

:lmao

Ghana is starting to lose some respect

[whottt]

whottt, I usually agree with most everything you say... but coming to the realization that fútbol is a kickass sport may be too late for you to understand....

Eye of the beholder....



Another issue is the fact that the US's superiority complex doesn't allow the sport to be embraced... that problem being of a systemic nature.


So are you saying the athletes in American Soccer are of the same caliber they are in any of our other pro sports?

Is that what you are saying?

And if not...who is preventing the top tier athletes from playing Soccer?

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Ok at this point I'd like for the US to score just for posterity. I'm leaning to believe that this game is over.

Yeah, right...

This team scores less than KEDA.

[MannyIsGod]

Man, say what you guys will about the US, but there is no way anyone can say they dive anywhere near as much as the ohter teams I've seen in the cup. Fuck that.

[MannyIsGod]

Props to Ghana. Thanks to the ref for fucking us.

[whottt]

Hegamb...if our suriority complex was the issue...we wouldn't even field a soccer team.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

Man, say what you guys will about the US, but there is no way anyone can say they dive anywhere near as much as the ohter teams I've seen in the cup. Fuck that.

No, you're right.

I've seen about five or six games of this Cup (2 U.S. games) and the U.S. doesn't dive nearly as much as some of the other countries.

Props to Ghana. I'm rooting for them now.

[whottt]

My solutions to fixing US Soccer =

1.Fire any coach that looks like his athletic background is in beerguzzling.

2.Get more black guys.

[Spurologist]

1. Props to Ghana and Good luck against Brazil
2. Football refs do fuck up and they have in many games in the World Cup
3. US needs a known European coach

[hendrix]

The #5 team in the FIFA ranking is out of competition...
Shocking.

[Johnny_Blaze_47]

My solutions to fixing US Soccer =

1.Fire any coach that looks like his athletic background is in beerguzzling.



Larry Brown is available.

[Texas_Ranger]

Goodbye US&A.

[Spurologist]

The #5 team in the FIFA ranking is out of competition...
Shocking.

That ref will be in the next Argentina game

[Dre_7]

Donovon sucked. Arena sucked. The ref sucked.

[whottt]

The #5 team in the FIFA ranking is out of competition...
Shocking.


Hey bitch...

The US has won Two World Cups and Two Olympic Gold Medals in Soccer....We are also the defending Champs in Olympic Rugby.

What's Argentina's tally? :smokin

[polandprzem]

:lmao

Poland >USA

[whottt]

Whottt's solutions for fixing US Soccer

#3. Threaten to kill the family members of all the players if they do not win.


Works for the rest of the world...

[Phenomanul]

Eye of the beholder....

When was the last time you played competitive soccer... not as a child?

Indeed the perspective element is there, I just don't believe that there is a 'wrong' or 'right' on this issue... You either like soccer, or you don't.

I like hockey even though I've never played it or watch it often, becuase I realize that what they do is hard as hell. Also, I'm 10x more a fan of the S.A. Spurs than of any soccer team out there irregardless of the fact that I'm 10x a better soccer player than a basketball one - go figure that being 5'-10'' is a disadvantage in basketball, but 'irrelevant' in soccer -- unless I were playing against midgets.



So are you saying the athletes in American Soccer are of the same caliber they are in any of our other pro sports?

Is that what you are saying?

Nope... but not because they are incapable of it... The pool is simply smaller...



And if not...who is preventing those athletes from playing Soccer?
America's great athletes follow the same pattern as generations before them... a neutral systemic recursion... albeit one that happens to hurt US soccer.

[Phenomanul]

Whottt's solutions for fixing US Soccer

#3. Threaten to kill the family members of all the players if they do not win.


Works for the rest of the world...


They just had a tough tough tough draw this year...

[Texas_Ranger]

Czech Republic is second on Fifa rank list. They are out to.:lol:lol:lol

[velik_m]

i didn't know USA is the oldest team in WC, that could be a problem in the next WC.

[Phenomanul]

Hegamb...if our suriority complex was the issue...we wouldn't even field a soccer team.


Or we would just adopt the metric system like everybody else....

Mundane things like distances (miles vs. kilometers) or weight (lbs vs. kg) might not seem that different but when trying to reconcile those same units with pressures, energy, volumes, flux, etc... the U.S. system simply becomes innefficient.

[austinfan]

They just had a tough tough tough draw this year...

I agree. Group E was just as difficult, if not more so, than the so-called Group of Death (Arg, Ned, SM, IC). I'm not making excuses, because our players showed great effort, especially in the Italy game.

Time for us to get a new coach, preferably one with European or South American experience. Better coaching might have made a difference here.

[MannyIsGod]

The #5 team in the FIFA ranking is out of competition...
Shocking.:flipoff

[Texas_Ranger]

i didn't know USA is the oldest team in WC, that could be a problem in the next WC.


They have a good U21 or U23 team I think, so it will not be a "big" problem.
(If they even qualifie for the next WC10 in South Africa)

[polandprzem]

I thought you will try to learn soccer :rolleyes

[Dre_7]

USA is out, go Mexico!

[Spurologist]

i didn't know USA is the oldest team in WC, that could be a problem in the next WC.

hopefully young players like Freddy Adu show some drastic improvements and are ready to play in four years time. Youth soccer is the highest growing youths sport in the US but they haven't got enough quality players. I think the US will be back strong in South Africa

[velik_m]

They have a good U21 or U23 team I think, so it will not be a "big" problem.
(If they even qualifie for the next WC10 in South Africa)

if T&T could do it...

[MannyIsGod]

i didn't know USA is the oldest team in WC, that could be a problem in the next WC.The US has a bright future. Sure, no more McBride or Reyna but here come the youngsters like Freddy Adu!

[whottt]

When was the last time you played competitive soccer... not as a child?

Indeed the perspective element is there, I just don't believe that there is a 'wrong' or 'right' on this issue... You either like soccer, or you don't.

IT's alright...but what I find annoying is the constant aire of superiority put off by Soccer Fans as if the game is too sophisticated for the average American to understand...

In fact, it's the least sophisticated game of them all. It's a bunch of dudes, trying to kick a ball.

Now if you want to argue that is it the purest ball related sport you might have a point...but still not one that justifies Soccer being more popular than our other pro sports...

Walking is the purest form of transportation...that doesn't mean it doesn't suck.





I like hockey even though I've never played it or watch it often, becuase I realize that what they do is hard as hell. Also, I'm 10x more a fan of the S.A. Spurs than of any soccer team out there irregardless of the fact that I'm 10x a better soccer player than a basketball one - go figure that being 5'-10'' is a disadvantage in basketball, but irrelevant in soccer.


American's like sports that provide a consistent and constant adrenaline rush, either provided by incredible feats of athleticism and violent competition, or else by situations within the course of the game...

It's in this area that Soccer is not competitive with basketball and football and arguably, even baseball.

And this is by design...American's redesigned Soccer to provide more of these moments, and the result is American Football.


Hockey is similar to Soccer in it's dearth of adrenaline filled moments created by athleticism and situations, but at least Hockey has lots of violence to compensate.




Nope... but not because they are incapable of it... The pool is simply smaller...


America's great athletes follow the same pattern as generations before them... a neutral systemic recursion... albeit one that happens to hurt US soccer.


#1. I think it's more like...they go where the money is. Although nothing is keeping them from goung to Europe where there is substantial money in Soccer.

#2. They go where they envision themselves performing in a heroic situation athletically. And it's not Soccer.

[polandprzem]

Poland > USA

:elephant

[Texas_Ranger]

hopefully young players like Freddy Adu show some drastic improvements and are ready to play in four years time. Youth soccer is the highest growing youths sport in the US but they haven't got enough quality players. I think the US will be back strong in South Africa


I was reading some magazine and there was written that Adu is very overrated player, is this true? :angel

[Old School Chic]

:lmao

Poland >USA

Be nice

[Spurologist]

Poland > USA

:elephant

Costa Rica and Ecuador isn't exactly Italy, Ghana or CR

[MannyIsGod]

I was reading some magazine and there was written that Adu is very overrated player, is this true? :angelhttp://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,283-2028147,00.html

[whottt]

And BTW....the record for highest average attendance at any World Cup...was set at the one held in America.

It's not that we don't give the game a chance, I've watched every game, I had an emotional investment, but wasn't as exciting as watching most games fo the NBA Finals featuring two teams I don't even care about...it's just not competitive with our pro sports int he excitement factor, and as such it attracts low tiered athletes, $$$, and fan support.

[Texas_Ranger]

USA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Poland.

Sorry but Poland SUCKS!

[polandprzem]

Costa Rica and Ecuador isn't exactly Italy, Ghana or CR

:blah :blah :blah


More point now and we beat you guys 4 years ago 3:1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

:elephant :elephant :elephant

[whottt]

Whottt's solutions for fixing US Soccer:
#4. Send the Womens team.

[Texas_Ranger]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,283-2028147,00.html


Thanks, now I know that he is not so overrated. I hope that he will go to Chelsea.

[polandprzem]

Whottt's solutions for fixing US Soccer:
#4. Send the Womens team.

#5 send LeBron james and Dwyane Wade

[velik_m]

Whottt's solutions for fixing US Soccer:
#4. Send the Womens team.

i'm cool with that :smokin

[Dre_7]

No way Poland is better than US. :lol

[MoSpur]

No way should the US be saying we're better than whoever. The fact of the matter is that the US sucked this year. They scored ONE goal. Just one.

[Texas_Ranger]

No way should the US be saying we're better than whoever. The fact of the matter is that the US sucked this year. They scored ONE goal. Just one.


2 goals, but one was autogoal.

[Spurologist]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,283-2028147,00.html

that's old news. DC United have denied those reports. AND yes Freddy is overrated. He still needs to show some improvements in his overal game. His major fault is he losing the ball too quickly ala Bobby Convey. He's playing in the MLS. He should be dominating the game. He has no goals but his has 4 assists. That's still not good enough. I only hope he shows some promise.

[whottt]

Whottt's solutions for fixing US Soccer:


#6. Find the best athletes in the most politically unstable countries in the World, IE the Soccer countries(soccer is always the most popular Sport in these countries, guranteed)...Offer them full citizenship, college education for them and all their siblings, and a ton of $$$ to come play for Team USA in Soccer.

This one has a long track record of success by the way...particularly in the Olympics.

[Bob Lanier]

#7 See if David Robinson cares more about football than he did about basketball. He might make a decent goalie.

[Spurologist]

:blah :blah :blah


More point now and we beat you guys 4 years ago 3:1 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

:elephant :elephant :elephant


Four years in Fooball is like following Vanilla Ice's career. Where is he now?

Poland over US = one hit wonder, ICE ICE baby

[MannyIsGod]

The US sucked in their first game, but otherwise I'm not too dissapointed with the effort. However, I am pretty pissed at Arena. What the fuck man, play a forward or 2. He played way too defensivly most of the tournament. I think its time for a change there. He's been a good coach, but I think the time has come for a new approach.

[polandprzem]

No way Poland is better than US. :lol

Well it's a fact now. Do not argue with the facts man :nope

[Phenomanul]

IT's alright...but what I find annoying is the constant aire of superiority put off by Soccer Fans as if the game is too sophisticated for the average American to understand...

In fact, it's the least sophisticated game of them all. It's a bunch of dudes, trying to kick a ball.

Now if you want to argue that is it the purest ball related sport you might have a point...but still not one that justifies Soccer being more popular than our other pro sports...

Walking is the purest form of transportation...that doesn't mean it doesn't suck.


The superiority angle doesn't come from claiming soccer is a superior sport... it comes from the U.S. not wanting to do what the rest of the world does. Something along the lines of a 'we're better than that' attitude.





American's like sports that provide a consistent and constant adrenaline rush, either provided by incredible feats of athleticism and violent competition, or else by situations within the course of the game...

It's in this area that Soccer is not competitive with basketball and football and arguably, even baseball.

And this is by design...American's redesigned Soccer to provide more of these moments, and the result is American Football.


Hockey is similar to Soccer in it's dearth of adrenaline filled moments created by athleticism and situations, but at least Hockey has lots of violence to compensate.


Americans love sports that are fed to them by our media... sports that the urban population can excel in (where most basketball stars come from - the inner city) and in the case of rural America football and baseball...

The media traditionally held back soccer broadcasts because they couldn't make enough money out of them... They suffered from a lack of sponsorships because the game was continual, had no breaks, and only had one intermission. Compare with Baseball, Football, and Basketball where millions of dollars are made off of commercials during 'time-outs'.... it's complicated and not as black and white as it would seem.




#1. I think it's more like...they go where the money is. Although nothing is keeping them from goung to Europe where there is substantial money in Soccer.

#2. They go where they envision themselves performing in a heroic situation athletically. And it's not Soccer.

$$$$ talks... but so does uncomfort; the thought of having to embrace different cultures... Americans simply don't like it. We'd rather other cultures embrace us... or our sports heroes 'ala Jordan. We export philosophies and markets but not sports stars.

Most U.S. stars like the Reggie Bushes, Shaqs, Kobes, the Lebrons, the A.I.s, T.O.s, <--- your typical super athletes live a life catered around them and the superfluous eccentricities provided by this country... some to the outlandish and unneccesary 'bling-bling' extent...

Notice how your Peyton Mannings, your Pete Sampras', even your Tiger Woods', and why not, Tim Duncan himself <--- whose games are predicated more on skill don't live by this precarious lifestyle... they're also not the most popular... (If Tiger where 'white' he would just be another Greg Norman, or another Jack Nicklaus -- but the mainstream sports audience would not be after his every move).

[velik_m]

Whottt's solutions for fixing US Soccer:


#6. Find the best athletes in the most politically unstable countries in the World, IE the Soccer countries(soccer is always the most popular Sport in these countries, guranteed)...Offer them full citizenship, college education for them and all their siblings, and a ton of $$$ to come play for Team USA in Soccer.

This one has a long track record of success by the way...particularly in the Olympics.

top Euro teams grab all the best talent in 3rd world countries. They have academies in Africa to train young players and snatch all the best as soon as posible.

[whottt]

The US sucked in their first game, but otherwise I'm not too dissapointed with the effort. However, I am pretty pissed at Arena. What the fuck man, play a forward or 2. He played way too defensivly most of the tournament. I think its time for a change there. He's been a good coach, but I think the time has come for a new approach.


Hire a coach from a Soccer Country...

Argentina
Brazil
Germany


Not Al Bundy's understudy.

[whottt]

top Euro teams grab all the best talent in 3rd world countries. They have academies in Africa to train young players and snatch all the best as soon as posible.


How very American of them. Scumbags! How dare they get the sellouts(albeit talented ones) before us.

Adjustment to solution #6:

First carpet Bomb all the African Soccer Acdemies of Euopean countries in the name of Freedom, the war on terror and locating hidden WMD...

Then implement solution #6.

[Spurologist]

Whottt's solutions for fixing US Soccer:


#6. Find the best athletes in the most politically unstable countries in the World, IE the Soccer countries(soccer is always the most popular Sport in these countries, guranteed)...Offer them full citizenship, college education for them and all their siblings, and a ton of $$$ to come play for Team USA in Soccer.

This one has a long track record of success by the way...particularly in the Olympics.

That has worked brilliantly in Europe especially france

Zidane = Algeria
Veira = Senegal
Makelele = Congo
Thuram = Guadeloupe

The problem is the MLS is not very attractive

[MannyIsGod]

:lol

[Dre_7]

The US sucked in their first game, but otherwise I'm not too dissapointed with the effort. However, I am pretty pissed at Arena. What the fuck man, play a forward or 2. He played way too defensivly most of the tournament. I think its time for a change there. He's been a good coach, but I think the time has come for a new approach.

I hate the 4-5-1. I think Arena sucks.

[resistanze]

I bet Freddy Adu is gonna play for Ghana now :lol

[Spurologist]

Poland > USA

:elephant

:lol Didn't Poland lose to the US in European soil 1-0 this year.

[Spurologist]

I hate the 4-5-1. I think Arena sucks.

4-5-1 = Small Ball

FUCK IT

This post require pending input from AHF

[whottt]

Or we would just adopt the metric system like everybody else....

Mundane things like distances (miles vs. kilometers) or weight (lbs vs. kg) might not seem that different but when trying to reconcile those same units with pressures, energy, volumes, flux, etc... the U.S. system simply becomes innefficient.



You confuse laziness with superiority...

BTW, I agree on this one...the metric system makes a hell of a lot more sense and is an actual system and not some clusterfuck mishmash.

This is laziness though...no one likes the inches and miles bullshit.

[polandprzem]

:lol Didn't Poland lose to the US in European soil 1-0 this year.

You paind us so we agreed on that one. You wanted to be on the 5th place in FIFA rankings and win helped you with this.
Thanks guys :)

[rascal]

The US was bad. Only one true goal in 3 games. Most Americans don't care about the world cup anyways.

They don't deserve to go on. They were even bad at scoring goals coming into the tournament. I'm happy they are out, now I won't have to keep hearing talk about upcoming United States games during other games.

[polandprzem]

The problem is the Europe hates USA, and you know why.
Thats why you have officiating like that
Simple

[polandprzem]

Hop[efully Gerryatrics is still with us (living ppl I mean), maybe he went to the drugstore to buy some Prosac

[whottt]

#7 See if David Robinson cares more about football than he did about basketball. He might make a decent goalie.


Drob could step on the court without a day of training, or caring, and still be a better goalie than the HEB Produce Manager we have out there now.

[Spurologist]

The US was bad. Only one true goal in 3 games. Most Americans don't care about the world cup anyways.

They don't deserve to go on. They were even bad at scoring goals coming into the tournament. I'm happy they are out, now I won't have to keep hearing talk about upcoming United States games during other games.

That's the kind of shit that will allow the US to be just a mediocre soccer nation.

[MoSpur]

The US doesn't deserve to move to the next round. They would have been killed in the next round. I am not pleased with their effort overall. I loved how they played against Italy, but that was the only game where I saw the US play to its potential. Other than that, they sucked. Plain and simple. A team that sucks doesn't deserve to go on.

[MoSpur]

I am not glad to see them out, but I hope the media doesn't overhype the US ever again.

[whottt]

That's the kind of shit that will allow the US to be just a mediocre soccer nation.


You do realize that being a mediocre Soccer Nation would be a step up don't you?

[Dre_7]

Drob could step on the court without a day of training, or caring, and still be a better goalie than the HEB Produce Manager we have out there now.

Keller is an excellent keeper.

[whottt]

Keller is an excellent keeper.


Frasier is a credit to Produce Managers everywhere...but that's about it.

[velik_m]

How very American of them. Scumbags! How dare they get the sellouts(albeit talented ones) before us.

Adjustment to solution #6:

First carpet Bomb all the African Soccer Acdemies of Euopean countries in the name of Freedom, the war on terror and locating hidden WMD...

Then implement solution #6.

:lol

America needs to improve from inside. you need a competitive league. that means bringing foreign players in the league - but not Beckhams and Ronaldos, that's too big of a gap for MLS to make. They should try with second tier Brazil, Argentina players or some minor African nation players (ala Angola nationals). That won't bring improvement to your national team in 4,8 years but it will help in the long run.

Also you need a good youth system, a pyramid. In Europe if a 16 year old is too good, they will stick him in U-18, if he's still too good they will get him in senior B team and then in senior A team. He will never get in a position where he's the best player on the team for a long time and stagnate.

[Spurologist]

You do realize that being a mediocre Soccer Nation would be a step up don't you?

you are sadly mistaken. There is only a select core of teams can best the US. US got a tough group combined with lackluster play, questionable reffing and bad coaching decisions. Shit happens. US is slightly above mediocre.

[ALVAREZ6]

Not making it to the 16 team round is an underacheivement from the 5th ranked team of all the land... :spin :spin :spin

[austinfan]

The problem is the Europe hates USA, and you know why.
Thats why you have officiating like that
Simple

I disagree. That penalty was pure BS, but never attribute to conspiracy what can be blamed on good old-fashioned incompetence.

Besides, FIFA is all about making money, and the US is the hugest untapped/semi-tapped market in the world. They want the U.S. involved in the World Cup, to the point where it will probably be hosted here again in 2018.

[whottt]

The problem is the Europe hates USA, and you know why.
Thats why you have officiating like that
Simple


And this is why Europe continually lags behind the US economically...

FIFA wants Soccer to be successful in America...that's why they gave us a World Cup to host...that's why they've done everything in their power to assist us in developing Pro Soccer leagues...

Yet their officials undermine that effort...

So basically they undermine their own goals and oppose themselves.

It's never a good idea to let your money get mad...we won't lose sleep over Soccer one way or the other...and if we really want to watch it, we'll just watch our women's team.

[polandprzem]

Not making it to the 16 team round is an underacheivement from the 5th ranked team of all the land... :spin :spin :spin


:tu

[velik_m]

The problem is the Europe hates USA, and you know why.
Thats why you have officiating like that
Simple

i guess Europe hates Poland too...

German Poles > Polish Poles

[polandprzem]

And this is why Europe continually lags behind the US economically...

FIFA wants Soccer to be successful in America...that's why they gave us a World Cup to host...that's why they've done everything in their power to assist us in developing Pro Soccer leagues...

Yet their officials undermine that effort...

So basically they undermine their own goals and oppose themselves.

It's never a good idea to let your money get mad...we won't lose sleep over Soccer one way or the other...and if we really want to watch it, we'll just watch our women's team.


:lol :lol :lol

You guys took that seriously?

Coool :drunk :drunk :drunk

[Spurologist]

Not making it to the 16 team round is an underacheivement from the 5th ranked team of all the land... :spin :spin :spin

:lol Wasn't every one saying the rankings were BS. Now people are giving credence to it. That's called hypocracy on the highest level

[polandprzem]

i guess Europe hates Poland too...

German Poles > Polish Poles

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh :pctoss

[polandprzem]

:lol Wasn't every one saying the rankings were BS. Now people are giving credence to it. That's called hypocracy on the highest level

Nope - that's called "You have what you've got!!!"

[whottt]

you are sadly mistaken. There is only a select core of teams can best the US. US got a tough group combined with lackluster play, questionable reffing and bad coaching decisions. Shit happens. US is slightly above mediocre.


I'm not mistaken...

I've watched the game, and I've watched the other teams in this tournament...

The US is flat out sloooooooow compared to every single other team I have watched, they lack the final gear. Their passing looks like something you might see in a Kid's match...

I'd say our team is the biggest reason everyone else thinks American's don't have a great understanding of Soccer...I'd come to that conclusion watching them play as well.

For all the finanaical and training support we potentially have at our disposal VS what the other countries have...

We're a fucking joke...seriously.


Denial gets you nowhere.


Let's go find out what the GDP and Population of the team that just whipped our ass is...then tell me we are mediocre.

[austinfan]

whottt, I realize your posts are mostly about trying to get a reaction out of the majority of the readers on this thread, but why does soccer/American football have to be an either/or deal? Why do you have to cut one down to prop the other up? The U.S. is so huge and so fragmented media-wise these days (witness the continued lackluster ratings for the NBA finals), that soccer can get its own following without cutting into the popularity of American football. No one's trying to take the Super Bowl away from anybody here.

I get a sense of "If I can't be the best, I'm damned if I'm going to play this sport" from you. The U.S. doesn't have to be the best in the world at everything you know, and it's an impossibility anyway. So why all the disparaging comments?

[whottt]

whottt, I realize your posts are mostly about trying to get a reaction out of the majority of the readers on this thread, but why does soccer/American football have to be an either/or deal? Why do you have to cut one down to prop the other up? The U.S. is so huge and so fragmented media-wise these days (witness the continued lackluster ratings for the NBA finals), that soccer can get its own following without cutting into the popularity of American football. No one's trying to take the Super Bowl away from anybody here.

I get a sense of "If I can't be the best, I'm damned if I'm going to play this sport" from you. The U.S. doesn't have to be the best in the world at everything you know, and it's an impossibility anyway. So why all the disparaging comments?

Hey...at least I watched.

[austinfan]

Hey...at least I watched.

:tu

[spurster]

USA team sucked, but now we (a lot of us at least) can support the team of our beloved ancestors.

Go Sweden! Yah, shuur, ya betcha.

[Spurologist]

Brazil down :wow

[ALVAREZ6]

GOOAAAALLLLLLLLL JAPAN!!!!!!!!!!



I know I'm late, but it was nice!

[velik_m]

Brazil is starting to play?

Go Australia! send Croatia home!

[MaNuMaNiAc]

WOW! been a while since I've read so much bullshit in one thread alone http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

All quotes below belong to Whottt


Americans don't get into tricycle racing either...that doesn't mean they don't get it.

There's a reason America is the least fucked up country in the World...and 99% of that has to do with the fact that we realize Soccer sucks and the rest of the word is more corrupt...

hmm, I don't even think I need to explain why this is bullshit. Claiming that football has something to do with countries being corrupt is bullshit! and I for one would love for you to base your bullshit takes on some evidence! something other than fucking coincidence.


Seriously, why does everyone always act like Americans don't know about Soccer? We all play it as kids...we were the first country outside of England to play in an international Soccer contest...we had the second or third professional Soccer League in the World...and when Women's Soccer was introduced we dominated it as much as any male team has dominated Men's Soccer(women's team has first tier athletes, men's team has 5th ot 6th). We just found other stuff we like better. The Horse and carriage isn't going to come back in style here...and neither is Soccer.

PS...go read about how our team is being treated over there and the measures they have to take for their safety.
What the fuck does it matter if you played it first or not?? American's don't like it simply because American's love everything fast, neat and easy to understand, simple as that. Its a matter of tastes. :lmao at you trying to equate women football with mens! :lmao! for fucks sake, if I tried to equate WNBA with the NBA you would laugh at my face, but because this is football, a sport you haven't a clue about clearly, there is no poblem with the comparison huh?

Also, the US team needs all that protection because of political reasons that have nothing to do with the sport.


Soccer=Running
Ghana = All Black Guys
America = All(American )White Guys except for like 1(who incidentally, is the only guy who looks like he belongs on the field in this game).

I admire the optimism of Johnny Blaze and Manny.


I think I understand Soccer well enough.
oh yes, clearly you have football all firgured out huh? http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif That's why Ivory Coast had such a great time against all white teams like Argentina, Holland (well they have a black guy, but not a very important one).


Hey bitch...

The US has won Two World Cups and Two Olympic Gold Medals in Soccer....We are also the defending Champs in Olympic Rugby.

What's Argentina's tally? :smokin
:lmao! again with the women football shit, pathetic. I have nothing against women football, but its kids games compared to men's football.


Whottt's solutions for fixing US Soccer

#3. Threaten to kill the family members of all the players if they do not win.


Works for the rest of the world...
yet another idiotic joke


IT's alright...but what I find annoying is the constant aire of superiority put off by Soccer Fans as if the game is too sophisticated for the average American to understand...

In fact, it's the least sophisticated game of them all. It's a bunch of dudes, trying to kick a ball.

Now if you want to argue that is it the purest ball related sport you might have a point...but still not one that justifies Soccer being more popular than our other pro sports...

Walking is the purest form of transportation...that doesn't mean it doesn't suck.

You people love baseball! BASEBALL!! and you're telling me football is the least sophisticated sport of all?? give me a fucking break!!! You don't know shit about football!


American's like sports that provide a consistent and constant adrenaline rush, either provided by incredible feats of athleticism and violent competition, or else by situations within the course of the game...

It's in this area that Soccer is not competitive with basketball and football and arguably, even baseball.

And this is by design...American's redesigned Soccer to provide more of these moments, and the result is American Football.

Hockey is similar to Soccer in it's dearth of adrenaline filled moments created by athleticism and situations, but at least Hockey has lots of violence to compensate.

You're telling me you think football has less adrenaline rush than baseball??? ... so stupid its hard to find a decent argument... but I guess that was what you intended. You clearly have no fucking clue when it comes to football.


#1. I think it's more like...they go where the money is. Although nothing is keeping them from goung to Europe where there is substantial money in Soccer.

#2. They go where they envision themselves performing in a heroic situation athletically. And it's not Soccer.
pfff... scoring a goal in football is ten times more heroic than anything you could do in basketball, and yet noone is claiming its the better sport. Just because you don't understand what makes football exciting does not mean it isn't. Billions of people love football above any other sport, but because Americans don't like it, all of a sudden it lacks in excitemetn and heroism! Do everyone a favor and don't comment on shit you clearly don't understand.


And BTW....the record for highest average attendance at any World Cup...was set at the one held in America.

It's not that we don't give the game a chance, I've watched every game, I had an emotional investment, but wasn't as exciting as watching most games fo the NBA Finals featuring two teams I don't even care about...it's just not competitive with our pro sports int he excitement factor, and as such it attracts low tiered athletes, $$$, and fan support.
Football is not a sport where anyone can watch and be entertained. I disagree with you, I've watched games in which I have nothing invested, and found them incredible matches.


And this is why Europe continually lags behind the US economically...

FIFA wants Soccer to be successful in America...that's why they gave us a World Cup to host...that's why they've done everything in their power to assist us in developing Pro Soccer leagues...

Yet their officials undermine that effort...

So basically they undermine their own goals and oppose themselves.

It's never a good idea to let your money get mad...we won't lose sleep over Soccer one way or the other...and if we really want to watch it, we'll just watch our women's team.
damn, again with the officials. You're complaining about officiating in football as a reason for American's disliking it, when officiating in basktball is as bad or even worse! and its ten times easier to officiate in basketball!

Look, you had a couple of bad calls this world cup, I agree, but it has nothing to do with respect or wether FIFA wants the US to "feel welcome" http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif FIFA can't regulate what the refs do in the game, unless you're proposing they benefit American's so they start getting interested...

I think the main reason American's don't like football is because they have never been godo at it. American's are only interested in things they can be good at. Ex: (albeit a lame one) Women's football never got coverage until they started winning championships, before then noone knew, or could give a fuck about women's football. Most American's don't have loyalty towards your squads, its either they do well, and then you support them, or they don't exist plain and simple.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Brasil losing to Japan?? You Manny, you the resident wetherman, are the polar caps still there? was that an asteroid I just saw?...



nevermind, just saw the score again

[austinfan]

Nice goal by Ronaldo. I think it was wise of Parreira to leave him in, because he's a streaky player and you never know when he'll catch fire. If he gets on a roll, he's going to be dangerous for the rest of the tournament, no matter what his weight is.

I like seeing Ronaldinho playing further up front too.

[velik_m]

Brasil losing to Japan?? You Manny, you the resident wetherman, are the polar caps still there? was that an asteroid I just saw?...



nevermind, just saw the score again

they'll set the record straight in second half, but it did liven their team up a bit. i think i saw some of them running
:wow

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I'm actually trying to find where they could be showing the game over here but I can't find it. Any Argies know if they're showing the game live and where?

[Bob Lanier]

What a pass from Ronaldinho. Ronaldo blows the wide-open shot.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

and that is why Ronaldhinio is so gooooooood! WHAT A PASSS!!!!!

Brasil 3-1 Japan, more goals to come

[Bob Lanier]

Ozzie ozzie ozzie.

[austinfan]

Rumors of Ronaldo's demise were greatly exaggerated. :)

[Phenomanul]

WOW! been a while since I've read so much bullshit in one thread alone http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

All quotes below belong to Whottt


hmm, I don't even think I need to explain why this is bullshit. Claiming that football has something to do with countries being corrupt is bullshit! and I for one would love for you to base your bullshit takes on some evidence! something other than fucking coincidence.


What the fuck does it matter if you played it first or not?? American's don't like it simply because American's love everything fast, neat and easy to understand, simple as that. Its a matter of tastes. :lmao at you trying to equate women football with mens! :lmao! for fucks sake, if I tried to equate WNBA with the NBA you would laugh at my face, but because this is football, a sport you haven't a clue about clearly, there is no poblem with the comparison huh?

Also, the US team needs all that protection because of political reasons that have nothing to do with the sport.


oh yes, clearly you have football all firgured out huh? http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif That's why Ivory Coast had such a great time against all white teams like Argentina, Holland (well they have a black guy, but not a very important one).


:lmao! again with the women football shit, pathetic. I have nothing against women football, but its kids games compared to men's football.


yet another idiotic joke


You people love baseball! BASEBALL!! and you're telling me football is the least sophisticated sport of all?? give me a fucking break!!! You don't know shit about football!


You're telling me you think football has less adrenaline rush than baseball??? ... so stupid its hard to find a decent argument... but I guess that was what you intended. You clearly have no fucking clue when it comes to football.


pfff... scoring a goal in football is ten times more heroic than anything you could do in basketball, and yet noone is claiming its the better sport. Just because you don't understand what makes football exciting does not mean it isn't. Billions of people love football above any other sport, but because Americans don't like it, all of a sudden it lacks in excitemetn and heroism! Do everyone a favor and don't comment on shit you clearly don't understand.


Football is not a sport where anyone can watch and be entertained. I disagree with you, I've watched games in which I have nothing invested, and found them incredible matches.


damn, again with the officials. You're complaining about officiating in football as a reason for American's disliking it, when officiating in basktball is as bad or even worse! and its ten times easier to officiate in basketball!

Look, you had a couple of bad calls this world cup, I agree, but it has nothing to do with respect or wether FIFA wants the US to "feel welcome" http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif FIFA can't regulate what the refs do in the game, unless you're proposing they benefit American's so they start getting interested...

I think the main reason American's don't like football is because they have never been godo at it. American's are only interested in things they can be good at. Ex: (albeit a lame one) Women's football never got coverage until they started winning championships, before then noone knew, or could give a fuck about women's football. Most American's don't have loyalty towards your squads, its either they do well, and then you support them, or they don't exist plain and simple.

He was being a little facetious and playing the 'devil's advocate'.... not everything was literal. At least that's how I saw the flow of the thread...

[MaNuMaNiAc]

He was being a little facetious and playing the 'devil's advocate'.... not everything was literal. At least that's how I saw the flow of the thread...
if so, then I fell for it, its just that I've been listening to the same sort of bullshit from other American friends, its just gets tiring.

[Bob Lanier]

The ref in the Australia/Croatia game has lost his goddamned mind. :elephant

[velik_m]

Euro refs suck ass!

[velik_m]

that was by far the worst reffing i saw in a while...

2 missed penalties, wierd ass decisions, how many yellow cards did Simunic have?

[T-Pain]

well, at least Brazil is still in...

[polandprzem]

Today games:
Italy vs Czech Republic 1-2
Ghana vs USA 3-2 (Do I have to hear Gerrywhinics again?)
Croatia vs Australia 1-1
Brazil vs Japan 4-1 (yup Japan will score)

Italy 2-0 Czechs :depressed
Ghana 2-1 USA :tu
Croatia 2-2 Australia :( although I predicted the draw :tu
Brazil 4-1 Japan :yupi THAT'S CORRECT


I just saw the best game of WC. Damn Coatia lost it, but the fight was unbelivable sometimes - 4 red cards and some controversy at the end of the game :wow just :wow

[TDMVPDPOY]

that was by far the worst reffing i saw in a while...

2 missed penalties, wierd ass decisions, how many yellow cards did Simunic have?

guy has 2 was meant to get off, then he gets another one = 3

[polandprzem]

that was by far the worst reffing i saw in a while...

2 missed penalties, wierd ass decisions, how many yellow cards did Simunic have?

yeah that was funny

How does the ref didnt thrown him from this game?

[Phenomanul]

Bump for MaNuMaNiA



No offense, but Mexico wouldn't beat Brasil if their life depended on it. Everything else I agree with

Look at Mexico's last 8 head-to-head matches with Brasil. I could be wrong but I believe we have beat them more times in that same span than Argentina.

The problem with Mexico is that they always play to the level of their opposition. Be it Italy or Martinica... Brasil or Jamaica... Mexico can't seem to play at a consistent level.... that's where they lack class. Argentina always plays like Argentina (meaning they always play like they know they will win).

Ever since Mexico beat them in the Confederations Cup Final in 1999 Brasil has had trouble with Mexico. They still can beat us when it matters, there's no denying that... but Mexico has been a bigger thorn on Brasil's side lately...

Of course in this World Cup I acknowledge Mexico is playing like crap... In fact, I congratulated the Argentineans on their sure win next week... and actually find it surprising that they made it out of group play in spite of LaVolpe's stubborness.



Here it is...

01/21/96 México 2-0 Brasil Copa de Oro Los Angeles
04/30/97 México 0-4 Brasil Amistoso Miami
07/16/97 México 2-3 Brasil Copa América Santa Cruz, Bolivia
12/16/97 México 2-3 Brasil Copa Confederaciones Riyadh A.S.
07/03/99 México 1-2 Brasil Copa América Cd. del Este
07/14/99 México 0-2 Brasil Copa América Cd. del Este
08/04/99 México 4-3 Brasil Copa Confederaciones Final México DF.
03/07/01 México 3-3 Brasil Amistoso Guadalajara (I went to this game it was amazing! Romario scored with about 20 seconds left to give the verde-amarela the tie).
07/12/01 México 1-0 Brasil Copa América Cali, Colombia
05/01/03 México 0-0 Brasil Amistoso Guadalajara
06/13/03 México 1-0 Brasil Copa de Oro México DF.
06/27/03 México 1-0 Brasil Copa de Oro Final México DF.
07/18/04 México 0-4 Brasil Copa América Piura, Peru
06/19/05 México 1-0 Brasil Copa Confederaciones Hannover Germany


Now this doesn't mean México is better than Brasil.... far from it...

It just negates MaNuMaNiA's implied argument that México cannot compete with them.

[alamo50]

Ok, it's official: Guus > God

[polandprzem]

Ok, it's official: Guus > God

That's about right :)

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Bump for MaNuMaNiA



Look at Mexico's last 8 head-to-head matches with Brasil. I could be wrong but I believe we have beat them more times in that same span than Argentina.

The problem with Mexico is that they always play to the level of their opposition. Be it Italy or Martinica... Brasil or Jamaica... Mexico can't seem to play at a consistent level.... that's where they lack class. Argentina always plays like Argentina (meaning they always play like they know they will win).

Ever since Mexico beat them in the Confederations Cup Final in 1999 Brasil has had trouble with Mexico. They still can beat us when it matters, there's no denying that... but Mexico has been a bigger thorn on Brasil's side lately...

Of course in this World Cup I acknowledge Mexico is playing like crap... In fact, I congratulated the Argentineans on their sure win next week... and actually find it surprising that they made it out of group play in spite of LaVolpe's stubborness.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif thanks, I didn't realise you had posted about that. Those statistics are somewhat interesting, though it would also be interesting to see how many of those recent Mexico wins came against a Brasil team fielded with their main stars and not with their backups. I know the recent Confederations Cup one is legit, Mexico played a good game.

P.S. I wouldn't be so sure about Argentina winning on Saturday. Let's put it this way, "on any given Saturday" :lol anything can happen. I wish you good luck.

[Phenomanul]

Didn't someone here predict a 4:1 score in the Brasil Japan game???

[Phenomanul]

http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif thanks, I didn't realise you had posted about that. Those statistics are somewhat interesting, though it would also be interesting to see how many of those recent Mexico wins came against a Brasil team fielded with their main stars and not with their backups. I know the recent Confederations Cup one is legit, Mexico played a good game.

P.S. I wouldn't be so sure about Argentina winning on Saturday. Let's put it this way, "on any given Saturday" :lol anything can happen. I wish you good luck.

One thing I wanted to mention was that Cuahutemoc Blanco was one of the major reasons behind many of those wins... but alas, he is not on this year's squad.

[polandprzem]

Didn't someone here predict a 4:1 score in the Brasil Japan game???

Yeah - me.

You've put me on ignor list or what?

Quote:
Originally Posted by polandprzem



Today games:
Italy vs Czech Republic 1-2
Ghana vs USA 3-2 (Do I have to hear Gerrywhinics again?)
Croatia vs Australia 1-1
Brazil vs Japan 4-1 (yup Japan will score)




Italy 2-0 Czechs
Ghana 2-1 USA
Croatia 2-2 Australia although I predicted the draw
Brazil 4-1 Japan :yupi THAT'S CORRECT


I just saw the best game of WC. Damn Coatia lost it, but the fight was unbelivable sometimes - 4 red cards and some controversy at the end of the game just

[MannyIsGod]

Man, the refs are blowing so much shit in this Cup.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the refs are as rigged as nba refs....

fuckn i wonder what australia will get once fifa examines that croatian defender dude who had unlimited yellow cards.

[polandprzem]

Do you feel that understanding for footbal Manumania?

[xcoriate]

Hell yes!

Aussie Aussie Aussie,

Gotta go to work but I will say a few things,

Goalie sucked tonight...

How many penalties should Australia had? 3?

The hold on Viiduka, the one that was called, and the handball in the box. Ridiculous.

Wtf happened with the yellow cards at the end? 3 for one player? Wow.

Guus is a genious, seriously!

Croatia shouldn't have gone back to an all defensive layout, they looked much more dangerous when in a blanaced attack, and Australia had trouble controlling there offense.

[NASpurs]

I was watching the news (Spanish) and saw the reaction Costa Rica's team got. It's not like fans at the airport after the Spurs were eliminated... it's more like heads are about to roll :lmao

[polandprzem]

I was watching the news (Spanish) and saw the reaction Costa Rica's team got. It's not like fans at the airport after the Spurs were eliminated... it's more like heads are about to roll :lmao

In Poland they were pretty fuckin' happy. Damn those player are lucky, if I was on the airport......... :madrun :madrun :madrun

[NASpurs]

In Poland they were pretty fuckin' happy. Damn those player are lucky, if I was on the airport......... :madrun :madrun :madrunThere was a guy carrying a 2x4... I couldn't guess why :lol

[Phenomanul]

I was watching the news (Spanish) and saw the reaction Costa Rica's team got. It's not like fans at the airport after the Spurs were eliminated... it's more like heads are about to roll :lmao


They are held accountable?? If only that were the case in Mexico... Mexico could place last and the people would still treat the players like kings... Pathetic really, stuff like that is what holds the sport back.

[whottt]

WOW! been a while since I've read so much bullshit in one thread alone http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif

All quotes below belong to Whottt


hmm, I don't even think I need to explain why this is bullshit. Claiming that football has something to do with countries being corrupt is bullshit! and I for one would love for you to base your bullshit takes on some evidence! something other than fucking coincidence.

What's the favorite Sport of Argentina?

I rest my case.


Point proved.



What the fuck does it matter if you played it first or not?? American's don't like it simply because American's love everything fast, neat and easy to understand, simple as that. Its a matter of tastes. :lmao


It matters because Soccer pundits act like it's something we haven't discovered or something or are just trying to be different...

Here's the deal...we had organized Soccer here, before it was even popular in it's current form worldwide, before FIFA was even a Glint in Pele's eye...

It evolved into something different here, before it became the "World's Game". It had nothing to do with trying to be different...it had everything to do with what many here found more exciting...

And the millions of immigrants that have come here from Soccer loving countries, like England, Germany, and Mexico have also made the switch when given the choice....







at you trying to equate women football with mens! :lmao! for fucks sake, if I tried to equate WNBA with the NBA you would laugh at my face, but because this is football, a sport you haven't a clue about clearly, there is no poblem with the comparison huh?

NFL is to Soccer as Soccer is to Women's Soccer.


Besides...it just shows how far ahead of the curve we are...wake me when the women in your enlightened soccer crazed country are fit to hold the bras of ours :smokin



Also, the US team needs all that protection because of political reasons that have nothing to do with the sport.

And this proves what? The rest of the world are dumbasses who want to punish the innocent?





oh yes, clearly you have football all firgured out huh? http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif That's why Ivory Coast had such a great time against all white teams like Argentina, Holland (well they have a black guy, but not a very important one).

RIF...I qualified the statement with the word "American".

If American white guys liked walking or running...they wouldn't have invented cars.

Besides...the Dutch and Argentines don't speak English as a first language,...therefore they can't be white.





:lmao! again with the women football shit, pathetic. I have nothing against women football, but its kids games compared to men's football.

Sexist...no wonder you guys haven't evolved beyond Soccer yet.






You people love baseball! BASEBALL!! and you're telling me football is the least sophisticated sport of all?? give me a fucking break!!! You don't know shit about football!


Motherfuck it is the least sophisticated...

And I know it's proper name is Soccer :Smokin

I'd also be willing to bet that I know a hell of a lot more about Soccer than you do about baseball...






You're telling me you think football has less adrenaline rush than baseball??? ... so stupid its hard to find a decent argument... but I guess that was what you intended. You clearly have no fucking clue when it comes to football.

I said arguably...Baseball is a lazy slowpaced game but it does have it's intense moments...





pfff... scoring a goal in football is ten times more heroic than anything you could do in basketball, and yet noone is claiming its the better sport.

Oh yeah? Try making a basket with only your feet and see if you still agree.



Just because you don't understand what makes football exciting does not mean it isn't. Billions of people love football above any other sport,


Billions of people don't have a choice either.

Ahh here comes the typical Argentine arrogance...



but because Americans don't like it, all of a sudden it lacks in excitemetn and heroism! Do everyone a favor and don't comment on shit you clearly don't understand.

I didn't sat it lacks it...I said it doesn't have as many of those moments as basketball and football do.



Football is not a sport where anyone can watch and be entertained. I disagree with you, I've watched games in which I have nothing invested, and found them incredible matches.



That's because it's part of your national self esteem.


blah blah blah I hate America.


I bet you have a tatoo of Che Guevera on your ass :smokin

[whottt]

The superiority angle doesn't come from claiming soccer is a superior sport... it comes from the U.S. not wanting to do what the rest of the world does. Something along the lines of a 'we're better than that' attitude.


False...Soccer evolved into Football here before FIFA existed...before the popularity of the British exported form of Soccer had even come to fruitition...

Soccer went the way of Water Polo(which we pretty much invented in it's current form), Rugby, etc.









Americans love sports that are fed to them by our media... sports that the urban population can excel in (where most basketball stars come from - the inner city) and in the case of rural America football and baseball...

Um all Soccer requires is a ball...and no other equipment...it can be played anywhere. That's a not a valid reason for it's lack of popularity.


The media traditionally held back soccer broadcasts because they couldn't make enough money out of them... They suffered from a lack of sponsorships because the game was continual, had no breaks, and only had one intermission. Compare with Baseball, Football, and Basketball where millions of dollars are made off of commercials during 'time-outs'.... it's complicated and not as black and white as it would seem.

The Media has crammed Soccer down the American publics throat for years...


We have always had pro leagues here...

We had Pele here. They covered it...no one cared compared to the other sports.





$$$$ talks... but so does uncomfort; the thought of having to embrace different cultures... Americans simply don't like it. We'd rather other cultures embrace us... or our sports heroes 'ala Jordan. We export philosophies and markets but not sports stars.



Um...this is the most false statement I have ever read...every culture is ethnocentric...Amerca probably least so...

We tend to embrace progressive and intelligent aspects of cultures and dismiss shitty ones.


Case in point: We welcome Mexican food here with open arms...but wholesale reject the idea of bring Mexican Government here.

And we ourselves are an exported philosophy and market.


And by the way...so is Soccer...it didn't simultaneously emerge in it's current form everywhere...it was a British export.



Most U.S. stars like the Reggie Bushes, Shaqs, Kobes, the Lebrons, the A.I.s, T.O.s, <--- your typical super athletes live a life catered around them and the superfluous eccentricities provided by this country... some to the outlandish and unneccesary 'bling-bling' extent...

Notice how your Peyton Mannings, your Pete Sampras', even your Tiger Woods', and why not, Tim Duncan himself <--- whose games are predicated more on skill don't live by this precarious lifestyle... they're also not the most popular... (If Tiger where 'white' he would just be another Greg Norman, or another Jack Nicklaus -- but the mainstream sports audience would not be after his every move).


And you don't think this is true of Soccer stars in other countries? I bet it is.

[Phenomanul]

Guess your weren't being facetious afterall....

hmmm


I'll reply when I get more time... I actually have a soccer game to play and I'm late... :lol
For real.

For now I'll just address the ''most false statement you've ever read'' part...

I was talking about people... everything else in your comment dealt with philosophies... not people.. or in this case sports stars...

I couldn't imagine LeBron trying to play in the Spanish Basketball League (if they happened to overtake the NBA in terms of prestige - which I know wouldn't happen) and going out of his way to try to adjust to their culture... I just don't see this happening... America's stars were never about that. Never have been. In fact, I can't think of any bonified American sports star who became a star in another country and not here.

So they seek money here in proven sports... nothing wrong with that... again it's a neutral systemic problem that happens to hamper the growth of US soccer.

[whottt]

Soccer's fun to play...have fun.

[Phenomanul]

Soccer's fun to play...have fun.


I hope I don't break a leg.... :lol later.

[whottt]

Damn Manny's a tough one to bait today...he's a credit to SoccerFan.

[whottt]

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This ought to be at least as entertaining as the average Soccer match :smokin

[MaNuMaNiAc]

Damn Manny's a tough one to bait today...he's a credit to SoccerFan.
http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smilol.gif Whottt, you SOB, stop taking advantage of the fact everyone is football crazed!! I have to admit I fell for it.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

I bet you have a tatoo of Che Guevera on your ass

:lmao :tu

[ALVAREZ6]

whottt, WTF is up with you dude????




You used to be smart

[danyel]

:lmao

Poland >USA

Poland was one of the biggest disappointments in the World Cup so far.

The US was in a really difficult group, but they still tried hard to win every game.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

now its Italy's turn to go down to the AUSSIES (of course there cant be a draw :smokin) !!!


AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
OI OI OI

the USA-Italy 1-1 draw gives us some hope for the round of 16

[velik_m]

Ok, it's official: Guus > God

No way, Guus is not better than Van Gaal.

[polandprzem]

Poland was one of the biggest disappointments in the World Cup so far.

The US was in a really difficult group, but they still tried hard to win every game.

:nope daynel - don't try to be too smart :nope

[Ariel]

:nope daynel - don't try to be too smart :nope
disappointment => expectations
no expectations => no disappointment

If he's saying Poland was a disappointment, he's implying something better was expected from them. I agree with him. And personally, if I were Polish, it's the alternative I would find hurtful.

[samikeyp]

I don't see the big deal, its only Soccer....I mean its not like playing the US in Baseball!!

oh wait...


I mean, uh...its not like playing the US in Basketball!!

Oh....wait.....ah hell never mind.

:lol

[windboy226]

Hope Korea wins today..miss living there and was there during the last World Cup. Americans have no idea how big it is until they experience it in another country that's soccer crazy(Superbowl doesn't even come close).

[polandprzem]

disappointment => expectations
no expectations => no disappointment

If he's saying Poland was a disappointment, he's implying something better was expected from them. I agree with him. And personally, if I were Polish, it's the alternative I would find hurtful.


What do you know :rolleyes


Jeeeeeeeeez people put some coooolness in yourselfs


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France- Togo 3-0
Swiss - Korea 2-1
Spain -Arabia 2-0
Ukraine - Tunisia 2-1

[Extra Stout]

I don't see the big deal, its only Soccer....I mean its not like playing the US in Baseball!!

oh wait...


I mean, uh...its not like playing the US in Basketball!!

Oh....wait.....ah hell never mind.

:lol
Hey, we're still the best at American football!

[Extra Stout]

I was at a big plastics show in Chicago this week... on Tuesday morning, there was not a German engineer to be seen on the floor... ALL of them were in the lounge area watching the game.

And even as loud as dozens of molding machines running simultaneously might be, the screams of glee when Germany scored could be heard above it all.

I'm so used to the stoic, serious German temperament that it was quite strange to see men in three-piece suits and spectacles jumping around and dancing.

[Texas_Ranger]

Go Tunisia Go

[Texas_Ranger]

Spain scores a goal!!

[whottt]

Man...the refs is this Tunisia Ukraine match are the worst I have seen.

[polandprzem]

Man...the refs is this Tunisia Ukraine match are the worst I have seen.

You are always seeing all the worst things whottt

[Bob Lanier]

Tunisia just got completely shafted.

[whottt]

They also got shafted when the Ukranian was allowed to block the PK with his hands.

[resistanze]

The ref should be shot.

[velik_m]

Man...the refs is this Tunisia Ukraine match are the worst I have seen.

you haven't seen Croatia - Australia.

[resistanze]

France is in such a shitty position. I'm sure they're paying Togo 10 Million to let them win 4-0.

[Texas_Ranger]

France - Togo 0-0

Without Zidane France will not win.

[velik_m]

France - Togo 0-0

Without Zidane France will not win.

they have trouble winning with him.

Swiss win, France wins.

[Texas_Ranger]

Switzerland - South Korea 1-1
France - Togo 1-0

1.SWI 5 pts +2 goal difference
2.S.KOR 5 pts +1 goal difference
3.FRA 5 pts +1 goal difference
4.TOG 0 pts -4 goal difference

France will go home because the will score just 2 goals, on the other side Korea will score 4 goals. If 2 teams have the same goal difference and points, then the team which scored more goals goes in the next round.

SORRY FRANCE, but with one forward you guys can not win.

[Texas_Ranger]

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g253/Ivan21_2006/_elna_show.jpg

This is love :oops :oops

[MaNuMaNiAc]

France is saved

[Spurologist]

Damn. Togo is embarassing my continent. There's still hope with Ghana (against Brazil :rolleyes)

[resistanze]

If Ghana somehow wins, they better win the WC. Cuz I don't want them to take out Brazil and lose to some other corny country.

[resistanze]

Remove: Togo & Angola
Insert: Cameroon & Nigeria

= good African chances for advancing

[Texas_Ranger]

Damn. Togo is embarassing my continent. There's still hope with Ghana (against Brazil :rolleyes)


Yes Ghana will win Brazil 5 or 6-0.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Spurologist]

Remove: Togo & Angola
Insert: Cameroon & Nigeria

= good African chances for advancing

I was in a Depression for months after Cameroon didn't qualify after a missed PK in qualifiers. :depressed

[Texas_Ranger]

And Switzerland scores.
2-0

[resistanze]

LMAO @ Korea.

[Bob Lanier]

WTF? He was offsides!

[resistanze]

I was in a Depression for months after Cameroon didn't qualify after a missed PK in qualifiers. :depressed

That was some cold shit :lol

Too bad IC & Cameroon were in the same group.

[Texas_Ranger]

WTF? He was offsides!


I think it was not, because some player from Korea touched the ball when she was on the way to Frei.

[Spurologist]

Yes Ghana will win Brazil 5 or 6-0.
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Ever heard of sarcasm. Or are you being sarcastic too.

I just want a good match. The problem is brazil can beat you in any way imaginable. They can get a wonder strike from outside, cross it in the middle and score, score off of ser pieces, dribble everyone and score. You name it. There is speed, power, pace, skill, finess, fitness, grace, accuracy at every position. I don't think Ghana will win but I'm just hoping for a good match and I want to see Ghana compete.

[resistanze]

Nay, Korea deflected it. The Assistant fucked Korea by raising his flag.

[Texas_Ranger]

Ever heard of sarcasm. Or are you being sarcastic too.

I just want a good match. The problem is brazil can beat you in any way imaginable. They can get a wonder strike from outside, cross it in the middle and score, score off of ser pieces, dribble everyone and score. You name it. There is speed, power, pace, skill, finess, fitness, grace, accuracy at every position. I don't think Ghana will win but I'm just hoping for a good match and I want to see Ghana compete.


Agree, I want to se a good match too.
But Ghana can win, because Brazil team will underate them, and they will perhaps not play with all the power agains them. Everything is possible.
:spin

[Texas_Ranger]

Its over now.

FRA & SWI are going in the next round.

France will play agains Spain, Switzerland agains Ukraine.
FRA-SPA, I`m very excited.