Tim Duncan : How many good years does he have left?

[Louie Vega]

I know this is a question that most of you don't want to think about. But Tim is going on 10 years in the league. Honestly, how many good years do you all think he has left? He hasn't looked very good most of this year due to injuries but the Spurs are still winning. Are all of his injuries catching up to him? Who will be the next person to carry the Spurs like Robinson and Duncan? Will Jermaine O'Neal not signing here affect us in the long run or will Nazr be the next Spurs great? This is a great time for Spurs fans and I know I am not the only one who has become spoiled by thier success. It scares me when I look around the league and see where Chicago and Los Angeles are now. I know I am enjoying every minute of this ride but I can't help but wonder how long it will last ?

[myhc]

I don't know how to make that judgment now since he's been injured all year. I really want to see how he performs starting off healthy and injury free. Then I think you can make a better gauge of where he is at his career and even then, it's hard to say how many X number of years he's got left in the tank. His age right now, 29, is supposedly still in his prime with a few years left to spare.

[Dunc]

If he recovers from PF (which I understand isn't guaranteed, but I'm not positive on that point), he'll have a few years left in the tank. And I'll bet he'll return to a high level of play when he recovers, too.

[DDS4]

Good thing Tim doesn't heavily rely on athletic ability to be effective.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

2 or 3 years

he's gonna retire much sooner than the average athelete. he wasnt to be out of here b4 Dwight howard hits his prime he said after the orlando-sa game

[Juice]

Spur fans are spoiled. Look at other teams which have rarely had winning records, much less three NBA Titles. After Duncan will be Lebron time, then after that, who knows?

[exstatic]

2 or 3 years

he's gonna retire much sooner than the average athelete. he wasnt to be out of here b4 Dwight howard hits his prime he said after the orlando-sa game
Spurs players often complement other team's players, and Tim DOES have a sense of humor. Anyways, if it is only 2-3 more years, why aren't you enjoying it instead of being such a negative bitch?

I'll say 5 years.

[v2freak]

He has about 3 years left of MVP consideration-type seasons. After that he will continue to be effective on defense and efficient on offense. He could play until he was 40 if he wanted, I believe

[boutons_]

I think Tim will get bored before his body retires him.

His weak interest in the first half of seasons is sort of a premonition, imo. He's not the super-competitive, fiery emotional, alpha male type. I think he will be satisfied with a repeat, maybe go for a 3-peat, then after that, take his 10s of $Ms, his wife and kid(s), and go hang out on the beach until his jersey retirement ceremony.

His injuries the last 3 seasons, even if not quite him breaking down with age, have to be discouraging, esp when compounded with the boredom of oct/nov/dec/jan every year, going through the motions until the playoffs.

[exstatic]

He has about 3 years left of MVP consideration-type seasons. After that he will continue to be effective on defense and efficient on offense. He could play until he was 40 if he wanted, I believe
Oh, I think so, too. David was effective until he was 37, and that was with a horrible back. It's a matter of how long he wants to play.

He's signed through '10, and I'd be surprised to see him leave hefty back end year money on the table. I think we might get an indicator if he wants to play for a while in '08. He has a player option which he could use to extend the deal. Then again, he can't get raises like his current 12.5% ones with a new deal.

[exstatic]

He's not the super-competitive, fiery emotional, alpha male type.
Fiery emotional? No. Super competitive? There isn't anyone moreso in the league...

[Ed Helicopter Jones]

If Tim Duncan takes care of himself and eats right I could see him living another 50-60 years. . .easily.

[JamStone]

Three more good seasons, maybe four.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Spurs players often complement other team's players, and Tim DOES have a sense of humor. Anyways, if it is only 2-3 more years, why aren't you enjoying it instead of being such a negative bitch?

I'll say 5 years.

i'm not being a negative bitch you fuck. i'm just stating what he said.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Fiery emotional? No. Super competitive? There isn't anyone moreso in the league...


bullshit

manu ginobili is twice as comeptitive as tim

[JamStone]

Fiery emotional? No. Super competitive? There isn't anyone moreso in the league...


More fiery emotional, more super competitive ...

Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, Rasheed Wallace, Sam Cassell ...

They are more so. They may not be more talented. They might not be the winner TD is. But, they are more fiery with emotion and (arguably) more competitive.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

More fiery emotional, more super competitive ...

Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, Kevin Garnett, Rasheed Wallace, Sam Cassell ...

They are more so. They may not be more talented. They might not be the winner TD is. But, they are more fiery with emotion and (arguably) more competitive.


i dont doubt TD has a huge desire to win, but if he was the most competitive player he'd be working on his FT's 24/7 knowing how crucial they are come playoff time. but there are def. a lot more players who are more competitive than tim

[kobe_bryant]

if he plays with me, he can win 6 more titles

BOOK IT

[Amuseddaysleeper]

if he plays with me, he can win 6 more titles

BOOK IT


not if u never pass the ball! :lol

[Please_dont_ban_me]

"What ifs" generally suck.

But in this case...what if Duncan was healthy this season? It would be Detroit chasing us. We would have one of the best records in NBA history. That's one way to look at, or maybe TP doesn't develop as much as he has...and we have a similar record still with TD as our leading scorer and not TP.

[Kori Ellis]

5 or 6.

[leemajors]

just because you don't blow your top and act over emotional doesn't mean you aren't ultra competitive. it means you can control your outward expression and emotions well.

[T Park]

but if he was the most competitive player he'd be working on his FT's 24/7 knowing how crucial they are come playoff time

How the FUCK do you know he doesn't??

Duncan is one of the hardest workers on this team.

Go talk to Brent Barry about what swung him on this team.

Duncan doing drills in the middle of July.

Meaningless balance drills that you do during the year.

Working his ASS off.



Sam Cassell has more hunger than Duncan??

ppftttt

yeah right.

If he did, he sure didnt show it last tuesday when he decided that putting on his shoe was more important than defense.

[HB22inSA]

Tim Duncan : How many good years does he have left?
-1...???

[Amuseddaysleeper]

How the FUCK do you know he doesn't??

Duncan is one of the hardest workers on this team.

Go talk to Brent Barry about what swung him on this team.

Duncan doing drills in the middle of July.

Meaningless balance drills that you do during the year.

Working his ASS off.



Sam Cassell has more hunger than Duncan??

ppftttt

yeah right.

If he did, he sure didnt show it last tuesday when he decided that putting on his shoe was more important than defense.


i didnt mean to say cassell, but in terms of the 1st 1/2 of your post, if TD was working on FT's as much as you say he might we'd be seeing a significant improvement. but we havent. he did great the 1st month of the season but its all been downhill. now i dont know how much PF affects FT shooting but Duncan's ft's for a player of his status who could get fouled a lot during crunch time leave a lot to be desired. thankfully he is so good in other areas that it makes up for his ft ability

[Amuseddaysleeper]

-1...???


HB are you even a spurs fan? i mean its one thing to be pessimistic like me but are you just a fan of another team and have SA on there as mistake??

[mookie2001]

i must say again
these are stupidest, most pointless threads anyone can make

no matter what anyone says everyone else will be dummer from having read it

[Amuseddaysleeper]

i must say again
these are stupidest, most pointless threads anyone can make

no matter what anyone says everyone else will be dummer from having read it


congrats on proving your point! :lmao

[Dre_7]

-1...???

Sweet!!!

Every time HB22inSA says something negative about the Spurs, they usually do the opposite! So that means, Timmy will play, and play well, for a long time!! :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant

[exstatic]

now i dont know how much PF affects FT shooting but Duncan's ft's for a player of his status who could get fouled a lot during crunch time leave a lot to be desired.
Wilt career 51%
Shaq career 52.8%
Bill Russell career 56.1%
Tim Duncan career 68.6%

You are a negative bitch. Duncan has never had ONE YEAR as poor as these guy's career averages.

[NCaliSpurs]

Anyone who says Duncan isn't as competitive as anyone that has ever played in the NBA is ignorant of Duncan's accomplishments.

With two sprained ankles he beats the Sonics, the Suns, and THE PISTONS.

[T Park]

Pessimistic= Negative about every single fucking thing.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

Duncan not being extremely competetive, give me a fucking break. He may not show his emotions as often as some other players but I like that, it gives it real meaning. When he's angry you know it's for a good reason and so do his teammates.

My favourite part of the championship DVD was seeing Duncan on the sidelines during game 7. He was getting really angry, and he channeled that anger into his game, taking over the most important game of the year when it mattered most.

[Pinto Bean]

To measure how competitive Timmy is by his FTs seems almost retarded. That would mean Ben Wallace is the most un-competitive player of all time. Tim has played through injuries that would put alot of players on the bench. Thats the definition of competitive (and tough) to me. But maybe to be competitive to most people, you have to make a jackass of yourself after you get fouled. People I guess kinda forgot what it means to be competitive, and thats to play your hardest and try to win no matter what. I thought thats what Tim was doing.

[Dre_7]

To measure how competitive Timmy is by his FTs seems almost retarded. That would mean Ben Wallace is the most un-competitive player of all time.

And you can throw in Shaq, Wilt, Russel (and his 11 rings), etc etc.

But it wont work. You cant argue with anti-Spurs fans.

[Warlord23]

Duncan is as competitive as they come. Yeah, he doesn't open his mouth as much or make faces like Garnett, Kobe or Iverson.

And there's no doubt in my mind that Duncan in the playoffs is going to be a whole different animal altogether. Case in point, Finals last year. Ben Wallace was the # 2 rebounder in the regular season. In the Finals Duncan on two bum ankles had 14 RPG to Ben's 10 RPG and Sheed's 5.5 RPG. After outrebounding Ben and Sheed by himself in one of the first 2 games, Ben guaranteed that it wouldn't happen again in an interview with Stuart Scott. Guess what, Duncan did it again in game 5.

He's still the best rebounder in the league IMO. He doesn't have to bring it every regular season game nowadays, though. But you better believe that he's gonna bring it in the playoffs. He was the single reason why the Spurs were competitive on the boards with the Pistons last year. And he'll be the best rebounder in the playoffs this season as well.

[Extra Stout]

Duncan is SOOOOO uncommpetitive. I hate the uncompetitive way he takes over NBA Finals games and asserts his uncompetitive will on the opponent. I'm sick of how he uncompetitively carries the team on his uncompetitive back in the clutch.

He would be much more competitive if he would scream and grimace at the crowd and pop his jersey and do PHAT ass between-the-legs DUNKS anD CROSSOVERS like my favoritest SuPeR AWESOME player Stephon MArbury that dude Is SO COMPetITIVE!!!!!!!! PEACEOUT!!!!!

[HB22inSA]

Sweet!!!

Every time HB22inSA says something negative about the Spurs, they usually do the opposite! So that means, Timmy will play, and play well, for a long time!! :elephant :elephant :elephant :elephant
Finally!!! Someone gets it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Pessimistic= Negative about every single fucking thing.
And then, there are those who don't...

[TDMVPDPOY]

plenty of nos left in the tank

[polandprzem]

Duncan is SOOOOO uncommpetitive. I hate the uncompetitive way he takes over NBA Finals games and asserts his uncompetitive will on the opponent. I'm sick of how he uncompetitively carries the team on his uncompetitive back in the clutch.

He would be much more competitive if he would scream and grimace at the crowd and pop his jersey and do PHAT ass between-the-legs DUNKS anD CROSSOVERS like my favoritest SuPeR AWESOME player Stephon MArbury that dude Is SO COMPetITIVE!!!!!!!! PEACEOUT!!!!!

:tu






:) Love it

[Amuseddaysleeper]

Wilt career 51%
Shaq career 52.8%
Bill Russell career 56.1%
Tim Duncan career 68.6%

You are a negative bitch. Duncan has never had ONE YEAR as poor as these guy's career averages.


but none of those guys have shot 80% at the line for a season so STFU. duncan has fallen apart at the FT line and for him its all mental not physical like it for a lot of other big men. he can hit a 20 foot bank shot but not a FT? gimme a break, i love the guy, but his FT"s make me cringe for a guy who SHOULD be hitting at least 75% and everyone on this board knows that

[Dre_7]

but none of those guys have shot 80% at the line for a season so STFU. duncan has fallen apart at the FT line and for him its all mental not physical like it for a lot of other big men

He had ONE 80% year. He has shot poorly from the line his whole career. Even in college. His biggest weakness comming into the league was FT%. So its not like he shot 80% at Wake, 80% his first few seasons, and then started shooting in the 60s. Hes always been a poor FT shooter. So no he hasnt fallen apart, hes just not a good foul shooter, plain and simple. Take your hate elsewhere.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

He had ONE 80% year. He has shot poorly from the line his whole career. Even in college. His biggest weakness comming into the league was FT%. So its not like he shot 80% at Wake, 80% his first few seasons, and then started shooting in the 60s. Hes always been a poor FT shooter. So no he hasnt fallen apart, hes just not a good foul shooter, plain and simple. Take your hate elsewhere.


ok i assumed he was solid at the FT line at college as well. i take back what i said about his FT shooting, my apologies. however i still think manu is more competitive than TD.

[T Park]

however i still think manu is more competitive than TD.

of course.

All the flaling around, all the screaming, and the, falling to the floor making him way more competitive.

If Only Duncan grew his hair longer, screamed after a three, and had a latin accent, he could become AS competitive.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

of course.

All the flaling around, all the screaming, and the, falling to the floor making him way more competitive.

If Only Duncan grew his hair longer, screamed after a three, and had a latin accent, he could become AS competitive.

oh come on T Park, you serious man? Manu's got the biggest heart of the whole team. look i dont doubt TD is majorly competitive, because game 7 of last shoulda shut everyone the fuck up, it was the 3rd quarter where he took control, but manu is on another level in competitiveness, when the team is down 15 he's the one who's still playing the hardest, you really dont think so!?!

[polandprzem]

To settle down the athmospher I must to tell you that there are different styles of competitiveness.


We know Manu's style, we know, Iverson style and as a spurs fans we know how much competitive is Tim Duncan in his style.

[callo1]

Hopefully TD has many more good years to come. I don't think this years PF problem is necessarily a gauge to judge his ultimate longevity. At the same time, older pplayers do generally fight through the injury bugs more than youngsters, and take more recovery time to boot. Shoot, most guys wouldn't even think about hurting their stats by playing through that....Jermaine O'Neil anyone.

Would be nice if the Spurs could get that "right" big man to play next to Timmy for the long haul sooner than later to prolong TD's career. Hopefully they can do that earlier than they did when they got TD to take a load off of Dave.

[Dre_7]

Hopefully TD has many more good years to come. I don't think this years PF problem is necessarily a gauge to judge his ultimate longevity. At the same time, older pplayers do generally fight through the injury bugs more than youngsters, and take more recovery time to boot. Shoot, most guys wouldn't even think about hurting their stats by playing through that....Jermaine O'Neil anyone.

Would be nice if the Spurs could get that "right" big man to play next to Timmy for the long haul sooner than later to prolong TD's career. Hopefully they can do that earlier than they did when they got TD to take a load off of Dave.

J Oneal had a torn groin. Thats a lil different than PF.

[slayermin]

TD plays below the rim which probably means he could play into his late thirties.

He probably has four to five good to great years left.

[TDMVPDPOY]

4-5 years left after his max contract runs out :D:D

[Lebowski Brickowski]

I remember last year when all the talk was that Duncan needed all summer to heal from his sprained ankles. Everyone (me too) was saying how badass Timmy would be after an entire off-season of rest. Then he starts this year w/ pf and has had a season well below his own standards. Everyone is saying, "He needs a whole off-seson to really heal from pf. Assume another long season and intense gameplay for the playoffs, how will Tim come back next year? His ankles are healed. His pf should be healed. What's next? Could playing hard on pf this year and through the playoffs cause another nagging injury from over-compensation or over-use? Or will he again be the best player in the NBA? Impossible to tell. But I think Timmy will play for at least 3 more years whether he is at the top of his game or not. And a TD at the level he's playing now is better than good enough to contend. He just makes eveyone on the team that much better. TD is still The Man.

Rack

[boutons_]

'Then he starts this year w/ pf"

IIRC, he did start this season looking MVP-fantastic for a couple weeks max, then the PF flared up.

[Jimcs50]

5 or 6.


Depends on health. I do not count this year's injury as career threatening, because it is not. After the off season, his feet should be healthy. Barring any knee injuries or back injuries, he should be in the league at least 6 more years and a dominant force for 4 of them. The twilight of his career should be on par with DRob's last couple of years, a good, complimentary player.

BTW, TD is every bit as dedicated, competitive and fiery as any of the greats.

:flipoff

[polandprzem]

'Then he starts this year w/ pf"

IIRC, he did start this season looking MVP-fantastic for a couple weeks max, then the PF flared up.

Yes he was looking great.
He started the season good and was getting better until the December when PF starts to disturb his rythym and movenment. Dam I was pissed off.

Now he is looking better and hopefuly he will recover. well at least to the optimal shape.

[MoSpur]

I say he has four more left. He seems like he would want to go out before getting all broken down.

[TDMVPDPOY]

He has untill his contract runs out and i can see him play on another few seasons playin a defensive role just like drob or camby.

[callo1]

I think Tim will get bored before his body retires him.

His weak interest in the first half of seasons is sort of a premonition, imo. He's not the super-competitive, fiery emotional, alpha male type. I think he will be satisfied with a repeat, maybe go for a 3-peat, then after that, take his 10s of $Ms, his wife and kid(s), and go hang out on the beach until his jersey retirement ceremony.

His injuries the last 3 seasons, even if not quite him breaking down with age, have to be discouraging, esp when compounded with the boredom of oct/nov/dec/jan every year, going through the motions until the playoffs.


I don't think it is fair to judge somebody elses competitive spirit based on your standards. TD is simply not going to be the guy that pounds his chest, or scream after every dunk and stares at the camera (Kenyon Martin), like some players do.

Tim's fire burns deeper within. It is not skin deep.

Anyone who can be an Olympic level swimmer, then change to basketball and rise to be a 2 time MVP, a 2 time Finals MVP, and get 3 rings has to have a fire burning somewhere.

It is rare, but sometimes TD does show that emotion in a more traditional sense. I will never forget a game in Portland back in '02 or '03 (not sure on the year). The Spurs were trailing the Blazers, David Robinson had just been ejected after some horrid bs call, and Timmy got mad as hell and absolutely destroyed the Blazers single handedly.

Shoot, just last week during the Laker game, TD got that "ok playtime is over" look in his eyes when he felt that Turiaf was getting away with too much. Tim proceeded to take over.

I think just the fact that Timmy has played all year through the PF shows just how competitive he is.

What about last year in Seattle? That was one hell of an ankle sprain, but Timmy got up (while the crowd cheered his dimise) and stepped to the line, then later got the game winner.

TD not competitive, not hardly. He simply is the kind of guy that doesn't wear his emotions on his sleeve...the kind of guy that people wonder "what is going through his head right now?" --those are actually the scariest people-- haha :)

[exstatic]

I remember last year when all the talk was that Duncan needed all summer to heal from his sprained ankles. Everyone (me too) was saying how badass Timmy would be after an entire off-season of rest. Then he starts this year w/ pf and has had a season well below his own standards. Everyone is saying, "He needs a whole off-seson to really heal from pf. Assume another long season and intense gameplay for the playoffs, how will Tim come back next year? His ankles are healed. His pf should be healed. What's next? Could playing hard on pf this year and through the playoffs cause another nagging injury from over-compensation or over-use? Or will he again be the best player in the NBA? Impossible to tell. But I think Timmy will play for at least 3 more years whether he is at the top of his game or not. And a TD at the level he's playing now is better than good enough to contend. He just makes eveyone on the team that much better. TD is still The Man.

Rack

Actually, someone posted something ironic when we were discussing the PF: The heavy taping of his ankles to reduce lateral motion may have caused the PF.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i dont really care, look at this season his playin with PF and his stats/mins are down but hoopsworld still has him in top5 of the top25 players in the league this season. Even if he continues playin like this i dont care cose with or without pf his still goin to be top5 player in the league.

[Dre_7]

As long as the Spurs can make the playoffs and have a decent seed the rest of Duncan career, I dont care if he gets 15ppg and 10rpg. Just as long as he dominates in the playoffs like he usually does.

Whatever happens stat wise from now on will not negatively effect his place in NBA history. He will go down as the greatest PF ever, and one of the best players ever. Top 5. Top 10 at very worst.

[Louie Vega]

i must say again
these are stupidest, most pointless threads anyone can make

no matter what anyone says everyone else will be dummer from having read it


I didn't even have to say anything. You made a complete ass out of yourself. :hat

[mavsfan1000]

I think Duncan should retire at the end of this season. Give the rest of the league a chance. :lol

[TOP_MODEL_M]

Timmy is the cornerstone of our franchise.He doesn't deserve any hate or doubt by anyone because he has done more for this team than anybody would have expected or even dreamt of.Even if he doesn't get 25 and 12 anymore he'd still be The One. He contributes much more than his stats show.We're not stat whores, no spur on this team is, and no spurs fan should be.We're a TEAM.And as long as we're winning we should be enjoying the best times of this franchise to the fullest.It might not happen again that we get another Tim Duncan.
He's deffinitely a Top 10 all time player, and with a few more titles he could easily become a Top 3 player.We couldn't wish for more than that. He's as competitive as anyone can get.Ask the so-called-competitive Marbury or Iverson how many rings they have...
Tim has a whole lot more left in the tank.And even if he gets 5ppg, he'd still be doubled by any team.He's the leader, he makes everybody around him better and he'll bring us more titles, pride and great memories.