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Ocotillo
04-04-2006, 09:20 AM
If the media are liberal, they sure are bending over backwards to appease their conservative critics.

Good News! The Rich Get Richer (http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=2854)
Lack of applause for falling wages is media mystery

By Janine Jackson


The Bush administration made a concerted effort to trumpet a “booming” U.S. economy in early December, widely understood as an attempt to reverse what polls indicate to be the public’s largely negative views on the matter.

There are, of course, obvious reasons the majority of Americans dissent from the White House’s rosy presentation of the economy: Most American households are not, in fact, seeing their economic fortunes improve. GDP is up, but virtually all the growth has gone into corporate profits and the incomes of the highest economic brackets. Wages and incomes for average workers, adjusted for inflation, are down in recent years; the median income for non-elderly households is down 4.8 percent since 2000 (Economic Policy Institute, 8/31/05). The poverty rate is rising, as is the number of people in debt.

But rather than confront these realities, and explore the implications of the White House’s efforts to deny them, most mainstream media instead assisted the Bush team’s PR by themselves feigning confusion over the gap between the official view and the public mood.

As the New York Times put it (12/6/05), the economy “has improved in the past two years, though polls show that most people think it has gotten worse.” USA Today (12/5/05) had it that “despite positive economic numbers, polls show that many Americans believe the economy remains weak.” And the Los Angeles Times (12/6/05) referred matter-of-factly to economic “good news,” noting Bush’s concern that “voters give him little credit for the improving economy.”

Again and again, the majority of Americans’ understanding of their own economic situation was presented as somehow disconnected from reality, ascribed to “pessimism,” ignorance or irrationality. The Wall Street Journal (12/6/05), among others, suggested poll respondents’ negative assessments might be “spillover from concerns about the Iraq War,” as if the war rendered people incapable of noting whether or not they can pay their bills.

Conservative pundit George Will (ABC’s This Week, 12/4/05) blamed media coverage for the public’s failure to understand that “the economy is booming,” attributing this misapprehension to “Will’s two laws of economic journalism,” which mandate that “there’s no such thing as good news.” On Fox (Special Report, 12/2/05), Charles Krauthammer likewise cited the press, which “emphasizes the negative,” for the fact that the public didn’t appreciate the “incredible resilience of this economy,” which he called “a tribute to the tax cuts which kept our economy strong.”

Even the inclusion of significant countervailing data, like sluggish wage growth or escalating healthcare costs—data that demonstrate that Bush’s vision of an economic horizon “as bright as it’s been in a long time” (UPI, 12/2/05) is simply not the reality for most people—was insufficient to shift the story from one of essentially “good news.” The most outlets could manage was to say that such factors suggest “that recent gains in the economy do not apply across the board” (L.A. Times, 12/6/05), that many workers are not “fully participating in the economy’s gains” (Wall Street Journal, 12/6/05), or that “many economic benefits are not making their way to ordinary workers” (Washington Post, 12/6/05). But why these ordinary workers, representing the majority of households, should not be considered the arbiters of whether or not “the economy” is good is never explained.

There were a couple of high-profile exceptions to this upside-down framing, in which the existence of an “upswing” was taken as a given and journalists sought only to account for the public’s failure to “get” it, or to sufficiently credit the White House. Former Labor Secretary Robert Reich (ABC’s This Week, 12/4/05) pointed out that the much-cited report of 215,000 new jobs created in November, which Bush held a Rose Garden ceremony to crow about, was “nothing to celebrate,” noting that it was less than the average per month growth in the Clinton administration, and that 150,000 new jobs are required just to keep up with population growth. Reich urged consideration of job instability along with health care and energy costs.

The New York Times’ Paul Krugman was likewise direct. “Americans don’t feel good about the economy because it hasn’t been good for them,” he wrote (12/5/05). While “GDP growth has been reasonably good, and corporate profits have soared” in recent years, Krugman explained, “most families actually lost economic ground,” with real median household income falling for the fifth year in a row.

But in their hardly radical suggestion that discussion of the economy ought to reflect the concerns of average salaried workers at least as much as those of the investor class, the likes of Krugman and Reich are not just a tiny minority in media opinion forums; they are effectively shouted down by a daily litany of stories that privilege the views of economic elites—with the most significant biases often lurking in the unspoken premises and parameters of supposedly neutral, “straight” reporting.

Media’s tendency to tacitly promote the official storyline came through in the decision by a number of outlets (ABC’s Good Morning America, NBC’s Today, CBS’s Early Show, CNN’s American Morning, 12/5/05) to “cover” Bush’s economic stumping with solo interviews of White House counsel Dan Bartlett; and in the ubiquitous tactic of bracketing straightforward information that might undermine the White House view as the detractions of “Democrats.”

Thus for the L.A. Times (12/6/05) it was only “Democrats” who were “not persuaded by Bush’s upbeat rhetoric, arguing that his policies, especially the across-the-board tax cuts, have disproportionately benefited the wealthiest segments of society.” Having devoted the first 15 of 17 paragraphs to unchallenged stenography of Bush and his advisers, AP’s account (12/5/05) offered a comment from Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, prefaced with the line, “Democrats were quick to criticize the president’s speech.”

Ingenuous reporting of Bush rhetoric was pervasive, as with his exhortation of corporate America to “keep your promises” to workers. That phrase made headlines, but reporters merely wrote it down, rather than take the somewhat obvious step of researching Bush’s record on the issue. As David Sirota noted (Huffington Post, 12/6/05), a quick Google search would’ve shown Bush’s “major concrete action” in this arena to be his push to legalize controversial “cash balance pensions” schemes, though government auditors have said these reduce the pensions promised to longtime workers (New York Times, 3/9/03).

Finally, there is the gaggle of unabashedly pro-business shows like CNBC’s Kudlow and Company, where Treasury Secretary John Snow was invited (12/5/05) to exult, “There’s just so much good news,” and to explain that that’s due to Bush and “his leadership in lower taxes that created the condition under which this economy could take off.” Kudlow also gave Snow a chance to respond to Paul Krugman (described by the host as a “Princeton economist and so forth and so on”) with a supply-side primer about how “high returns to capital” lead directly to “better wages and better compensation.”

Nowhere in mainstream media do such shows have an opposite number, in which progressive economists regularly lay out their worldview at length and in hospitable company. Or even a show where labor, poverty or consumer rights organizations get to respond directly to the selective numbers and analysis put forward by the administration.

Such a program couldn’t balance the slant of a press corps that headlines economic “good news” when most families fall behind; but it would be a start.

Ocotillo
04-04-2006, 09:35 AM
Ugh!! typo.

Extra Stout
04-04-2006, 09:43 AM
I'm noticing that I'm somewhere around the 80th to 85th percentile in household income, and at this rarified level incomes are stagnating.

The same thing goes for the management above me, who would be around the 90th up to the 95th percentile.

It's only the top 5% or so who are benefitting from economic growth. The reason the media elites don't "get it" isn't because they aren't liberal. It's because they are liberal elites in that top 5%.

spurster
04-04-2006, 11:12 AM
It's only the top 5% or so who are benefitting from economic growth. The reason the media elites don't "get it" isn't because they aren't liberal. It's because they are liberal elites in that top 5%.
Journalists must be making more money than I thought!

Vashner
04-04-2006, 12:30 PM
We need an islamic society.. traditional..

Let's get rid of all the science and crap.. and just live in brick homes, beat our wife at will and eat baked bread.

Forget progression of society.....

Liberals would be happy with that no? Seems like what they want...

ChumpDumper
04-04-2006, 02:43 PM
Why do you always feel the need to change the subject when you can't adequately address the matter at hand?

Oh, Gee!!
04-04-2006, 02:56 PM
We need an islamic society.. traditional..

Let's get rid of all the science and crap.. and just live in brick homes, beat our wife at will and eat baked bread.

Forget progression of society.....

Liberals would be happy with that no? Seems like what they want...

you're actually a worse poster than gtown. I didn't think that was possible.

RandomGuy
04-04-2006, 09:36 PM
We need an islamic society.. traditional..

Let's get rid of all the science and crap.. and just live in brick homes, beat our wife at will and eat baked bread.

Forget progression of society.....

Liberals would be happy with that no? Seems like what they want...
http://www.trephination.net/gallery/macros/dumbpeople.jpg

Cant_Be_Faded
04-04-2006, 09:47 PM
Think it has anything to do with almost every major corporation shipping jobs overseas

gtownspur
04-05-2006, 12:32 AM
Yet somehow homeownership is at an all time high, interest rates are at record lows.

And somehow immigration isn't to blame for the stagnation of wages.

Seriously get bent.

Trainwreck2100
04-05-2006, 01:19 AM
Yet somehow homeownership is at an all time high, interest rates are at record lows.



Um...isn't homeownership high because of low interest rates?

Trainwreck2100
04-05-2006, 01:24 AM
We need an islamic society.. traditional..

Let's get rid of all the science and crap.. and just live in brick homes, beat our wife at will and eat baked bread.

Forget progression of society.....

Liberals would be happy with that no? Seems like what they want...


Or we could tax these big businesses for outsourcing, use other taxes to try to decrease the national debt, and throw some of that money to help stem rising healthcare costs. But your idea may fly too.

Nbadan
04-05-2006, 03:31 AM
Um...isn't homeownership high because of low interest rates?

Low interest rates and baby boomers looking for quick investments that will pay off without the risk of the stock-market. 30% of new homes sales in SA and other areas are not first-owner homes, they are investor homes. 25% of homes are financed with ARMs, which just went up for the 15th time in a row.

None of this has anything to do with real income for average wage owners which has been stagnant since 2001.

gameFACE
04-05-2006, 12:54 PM
We need an islamic society.. traditional..

Let's get rid of all the science and crap.. and just live in brick homes, beat our wife at will and eat baked bread.

Forget progression of society.....

Liberals would be happy with that no? Seems like what they want...

You do realize that sounds more like a conservative agenda............

DarkReign
04-05-2006, 01:54 PM
When all else fails, blame the <insert partisan-party-that-you-dont-align-with here>!

Seriously, you guys need a new beat. Your snare is all worn out and hollow.

Oh, Gee!!
04-05-2006, 01:59 PM
You do realize that sounds more like a conservative agenda............


Vashner has two types of posts: dumb and dumber.

RobinsontoDuncan
04-05-2006, 02:51 PM
Vashner is a little kid, what do you guys expect. Im telling you I would be very suprised if he has graduated High School.



Or we could tax these big businesses for outsourcing, use other taxes to try to decrease the national debt, and throw some of that money to help stem rising healthcare costs. But your idea may fly too.

hmmmm....as opposed to current Republican policy that gives tax incentives to out source overseas.... might be a good idea.


Yet somehow homeownership is at an all time high, interest rates are at record lows.

And somehow immigration isn't to blame for the stagnation of wages.

Seriously get bent.

The wealthy segements of society tend to be the ones who can afford to buy houses. This does not mean that the tax cuts and defecit spending of the Bush regime have anything to do with it.

You wanna know why the economy is up? The military industrial complex is making a killing right now.

Ocotillo
04-05-2006, 08:31 PM
More liberal media (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harry-shearer/found-object-delay-on-ha_b_18506.html#video) at work here, this time Chris Matthews on Hardball having an off camera chat with Tom Delay.

gtownspur
04-06-2006, 01:10 AM
^you are trying to hard.

Sorry, but falling wages is not the sole indicator of an economy.The two causes for falling wages and outsourcing have to do with immigration on the part of wages, and outsourcing on the part of volition of a corporation. Falling wages, and outsourcing have been going on since the mid 90's.

Like i said, get bent.

gtownspur
04-06-2006, 01:11 AM
You guys are even dumber, you forgot to factor in that minority ownership is at an all time high.

ChumpDumper
04-06-2006, 01:14 AM
Falling wages, and outsourcing have been going on since the mid 90's.So, we should be happy about our falling wages....

gtownspur
04-06-2006, 01:18 AM
No nitwit,

Either bitch about the falling wages by taking away the taxcuts, (talk about stupid.), protest outside the white house, or the better alternative would be, allow drilling in our homeland, allow nuclear energy consumption, enforce immigration laws, and penalize those who have hired illegals who have driven down the wages for american citizens, drained the hospital budgets, and have made getting a college education hard because they are sucking up the grants.

But, i expect nothing but a cheap one liner.


Seriously, get bent.

ChumpDumper
04-06-2006, 01:45 AM
How will any of that stop outsourcing?

Do you know what outsourcing is?

Need to ask mom?

It's nice that you have made immigrants the new satan, but really, what have the Republicans done about that in the past six years?

Do you really think this is anything more than lip service? How many employers have been fined for hiring illegals in Texas the past six years? Have your mom google it for you.

Or have her get bent, whatever.

SA210
04-06-2006, 02:09 AM
No nitwit,

Either bitch about the falling wages by taking away the taxcuts, (talk about stupid.), protest outside the white house, or the better alternative would be, allow drilling in our homeland, allow nuclear energy consumption, enforce immigration laws, and penalize those who have hired illegals who have driven down the wages for american citizens, drained the hospital budgets, and have made getting a college education hard because they are sucking up the grants.

But, i expect nothing but a cheap one liner.


Seriously, get bent.
Considering that they are illegal as you say, with no social security number, how would they get grants or even welfare?

gtownspur
04-06-2006, 02:31 AM
^you are trying to hard.

Sorry, but falling wages is not the sole indicator of an economy.The two causes for falling wages and outsourcing have to do with immigration on the part of wages, and outsourcing on the part of volition of a corporation. Falling wages, and outsourcing have been going on since the mid 90's.



Like i said, get bent.

Volition=free will.

look fucker, dont put words in my mouth, it took you forever to respond to my post anyway. I thought you'd atleast recognize that i didnt link immigration with outsourcing but rather outsourcing and illigal immigration with falling wages.

Like i said, get bent.

gtownspur
04-06-2006, 02:34 AM
Considering that they are illegal as you say, with no social security number, how would they get grants or even welfare?

Go to a hospital, for once. You'd see that they get free healthcare. Second, many states like utah have allowed illegals to recieve grants for college. Third, there's been a study that has shown that illegals do recieve welfare to the tune of 29 percent of all illegals.

gtownspur
04-06-2006, 02:35 AM
How will any of that stop outsourcing?

Do you know what outsourcing is?

Need to ask mom?

It's nice that you have made immigrants the new satan, but really, what have the Republicans done about that in the past six years?

Do you really think this is anything more than lip service? How many employers have been fined for hiring illegals in Texas the past six years? Have your mom google it for you.

Or have her get bent, whatever.


What a total fucktwad, this bitch is. The only thing you can do is twist my words and imply what i have not typed. Read my post again fat fuck.

SA210
04-06-2006, 02:41 AM
Go to a hospital, for once. You'd see that they get free healthcare. Second, many states like utah have allowed illegals to recieve grants for college. Third, there's been a study that has shown that illegals do recieve welfare to the tune of 29 percent of all illegals.
Are Mexicans human, or are you only interested in helping Iraqi's?

gtownspur
04-06-2006, 03:00 AM
Um ofcourse they are. and your statement is ridiculous.

Seperate your emotion from logic, and then i'll debate with you. Otherwise, this exchange will turn into a strawman debate.

SA210
04-06-2006, 03:28 AM
It's not ridiculous. Whether the subject brings emotion, the point is logical. Your position is somewhat hypocritical. That's the point.

ChumpDumper
04-06-2006, 10:37 AM
I read your little tirade and concluded you were simply trying to change the subject by raising the latest bogeyman Hannity told you to be afraid of.

The sad reality you are too stupid to realize is that our governments - yes even Republican ones - haven't enforced the laws that are already on the books - so your answer is more laws that won't be enforced either.

Bravo.

gtownspur
04-07-2006, 12:48 AM
It's not ridiculous. Whether the subject brings emotion, the point is logical. Your position is somewhat hypocritical. That's the point.


There was no point to your diatribe. It was all just strawman. The point is is that we cannot support the whole world to live in america, emotional or not, it's reality.

gtownspur
04-07-2006, 12:53 AM
I read your little tirade and concluded you were simply trying to change the subject by raising the latest bogeyman Hannity told you to be afraid of.

The sad reality you are too stupid to realize is that our governments - yes even Republican ones - haven't enforced the laws that are already on the books - so your answer is more laws that won't be enforced either.

Bravo.


How bout the fact that A fuckin liberal democrat who works for Breckenridge of Austin as a nurse, agrees that the illegal immigration problem is bleeding the hospitals. Add to the fact that i have witnessed it with my own eyes. Also, How bout the fact that colleges like Austin Community College will admit any one no matter what their status, to attend and recieve financial aid.

How bout the fact that Orrin Hatch, a Republican, has passed laws in Utah to encourage illegal immigration welfare and govt spending.


Point is that you dont have a fuckin clue.
And again, you're a stupid fuck who has comprehension problems. I havent proposed new laws, nor have i come for any ones being pushed. I simply wanted stricter enforcement of the law. Get it through your worthless carcass.

gtownspur
04-07-2006, 12:56 AM
No nitwit,

Either bitch about the falling wages by taking away the taxcuts, (talk about stupid.), protest outside the white house, or the better alternative would be, allow drilling in our homeland, allow nuclear energy consumption, enforce immigration laws, and penalize those who have hired illegals who have driven down the wages for american citizens, drained the hospital budgets, and have made getting a college education hard because they are sucking up the grants.

But, i expect nothing but a cheap one liner.


Seriously, get bent.


Look here fucker, ChumpaDouchebag, i didn't come across here in this post on this thread as endorsing any new laws, but rather enforcing the already existing immigration laws.