I HAVE A PLAN TO DESTROY AMERICA by Richard Lamm

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Pretty scary stuff.


"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: First to destroy America, "Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures. It is a blessing for an individual to be bilingual; however, it is a curse for a society to be bilingual. The historical scholar Seymour Lipset put it this way: 'The histories of bilingual and bi-cultural societies that do not assimilate are histories of turmoil, tension, and tragedy. Canada, Belgium, Malaysia, Lebanon all face crises of national existence in which minorities press for autonomy, if not independence. Pakistan and Cyprus have divided. Nigeria suppressed an ethnic rebellion. France faces difficulties with Basques, Bretons, and Corsicans."

Lamm went on: Second, to destroy America, "Invent 'multiculturalism' and encourage immigrants to maintain their culture. I would make it an article of belief that all cultures are equal. That there are no cultural differences. I would make it an article of faith that the Black and Hispanic dropout rates are due to prejudice and discrimination by the majority. Every other explanation is out of bounds.

Third, "We could make the United States a 'Hispanic Quebec' without much effort. The key is to celebrate diversity rather than unity. As Benjamin Schwarz said in the Atlantic Monthly recently: 'The apparent success of our own multiethnic and multicultural experiment might have been achieved! Not by tolerance but by hegemony. Without the dominance that once dictated ethnocentrically and what it meant to be an American, we are left with only tolerance and pluralism to hold us together.'"

Lamm said, "I would encourage all immigrants to keep their own language and culture. I would replace the melting pot metaphor with the salad bowl metaphor. It is important to ensure that we have various cultural subgroups living in America reinforcing their differences rather than as Americans, emphasizing their similarities."

"Fourth, I would make our fastest growing demographic group the least educated. I would add a second underclass, unassimilated, undereducated, and antagonistic to our population. I would have this second underclass have a 50% dropout rate from high school."

"My fifth point for destroying America would be to get big foundations and business to give these efforts lots of money. I would invest in ethnic identity, and I would establish the cult of 'Victimology.' I would get all minorities to think their lack of success was the fault of the majority. I would start a grievance industry blaming all minority failure on the majority population."

"My sixth plan for America's downfall would include dual citizenship and promote divided loyalties. I would celebrate diversity over unity. I would stress differences rather than similarities. Diverse people worldwide are mostly engaged in hating each other - that is, when they are not killing each other. A diverse, peaceful, or stable society is against most historical precedent. People undervalue the unity! Unity is what it takes to keep a nation together. Look at the ancient Greeks. The Greeks believed that they belonged to the same race; they possessed a common language and literature; and they worshiped the same gods. All Greece took part in the Olympic Games.

A common enemy Persia threatened their liberty. Yet all these bonds were not strong enough to over come two factors: local patriotism and geographical conditions that nurtured political divisions. Greece fell.

"E. Pluribus Unum" — From many, one. In that historical reality, if we put the emphasis on the 'pluribus' instead of the 'Unum,' we can balkanize America as surely as Kosovo."

"Next to last, I would place all subjects off limits ~ make it taboo to talk about anything against the cult of 'diversity.' I would find a word similar to 'heretic' in the 16th century - that stopped discussion and paralyzed thinking. Words like 'racist' or 'x! xenophobes' halt discussion and debate."

"Having made America a bilingual/bicultural country, having established multi-culturism, having the large foundations fund the doctrine of 'Victimology,' I would next make it impossible to enforce our immigration laws. I would develop a mantra: That because immigration has been good for America, it must always be good. I would make every individual immigrant symmetric and ignore the cumulative impact of millions of them."

In the last minute of his speech, Governor Lamm wiped his brow. Profound silence followed. Finally he said, "Lastly, I would censor Victor Hanson Davis's book Mexifornia. His book is dangerous. It exposes the plan to destroy America. If you feel America deserves to be destroyed, don't read that book."

[A-Train]

Problem is, there's too much $ to be made from assimiliation. If you don't learn English, there's only sweaty ways to make a buck in the US. ducks excluded, of course.

[spurster]

"Here is how they do it," Lamm said: First to destroy America, "Turn America into a bilingual or multi-lingual and bicultural country. History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages ...
Belgium, Canada, Finland, Switzerland. End of story.

[ChumpDumper]

True, that should be the main draw for assimilation on that very basic level. Somehow it seems to be happening less. I agree with Hanson that there is a certain intellectual laziness in multiculturalism as it is touted today - it is easier just to ghettoize incoming immigrants than to determine how they should change to better fit into society. There's also the short-term, bottom-line capitalist self interest streak that doesn't give a shit about anything other than the pocketbook. This happens on both sides of the political spectrum, as Hanson said:

"We live in an Orwellian state, where liberal Silicon Valley executives pick up day workers on El Camino Real in Atherton, drive them home for a few hours of trench work, and then dump them off on the street at 5 P.M., as if they are going to parachute back to Oaxaca — or conservative hoteliers, farmers, and contractors who employ for 30 years hardworking illegal aliens until their bodies give out at 50, then expect the state to provide with entitlements what the employer could not with retirement plans, lament the absence of a "work ethic" among the aliens' children — all as a preliminary to welcoming another cohort, as the tragic traffic in human capital continues in some sort of surreal life cycle."

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Belgium, Canada, Finland, Switzerland. End of story.

Yes, all economic powerhouses. Great counter :lol

[A-Train]

One parallel that comes to mind are German-Americans. They certainly stood accused at one time (actually a couple) of lacking patriotism and not buying into being 'real' Americans. Of course, a couple major wars served as the impetus. All we have now are people willing to leave everything behind to come to the US and take shit jobs in order to have a shot at a better life. Yet this presages Armaggedon for the American state. Go figure.

[Extra Stout]

Hispanic immigrants are integrating more quickly than previous immigrant groups did. Unfortunately, some of them are integrating into the more dysfunctional aspects of urban culture. That's a problem. But the people who come up with these conspiracy theories about Mexicans plotting to undermine America are simple xenophobes.

The problem with immigration right now is the sheer volume, and the abdication by the government of its duty to regulate it.


Yes, all economic powerhouses. Great counter
Well, duh, they don't have 300 million people like we do. But their per capita incomes are high, and they are stable.

[E20]

Just employ the Immigration Act of 1917 just switch Eastern Europe with 'fill in the blank'.

[RandomGuy]

Yes, all economic powerhouses. Great counter :lol

All four of those countries provide very good standards of living for their citizens.

[LittleGeneral]

It's hard to believe that article was for real.

[boutons_]

Lamm represents the lowest kind of demagoguery, rabble-rousing, and ignorant chauvinsim.

Quite a few easily aroused rabbles in this forum. :)

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

But the people who come up with these conspiracy theories about Mexicans plotting to undermine America are simple xenophobes.

I don't think he's saying a plot, you're totally misreading it. He's just able to see the big picture and learned from history where we're headed.


Lamm represents the lowest kind of demagoguery, rabble-rousing, and ignorant chauvinsim.

He comes from your party, as a former Democratic governor. Tell you what croutons. Instead of the personal attacks that seem to be the only contributions you can make on this forum, I want to see your ignorant ass offer up where and why you disagree with anything he said.

And don't make it mindless babble, bring some facts and anecdotes from history to the discussion instead of just mindlessly trashing something that doesn't fit your socialistic, anti-Bush agenda.

[boutons_]

I disagree that having a bi-cultural/muti-culturea USA, due to a large Hispanic %age will "destroy America". What rabble-rousing, chauvinist bullshit.

"History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures."

I disagree. His history is bullshit. Several European countries are profoundly multi-cultural and are doing extremely well. India is extremely diverse with Hindus, Sihks, Muslims, etc and it's not blowing apart.

The USA already is multi-cultural. Urban blacks speak a dialect of English and dress very distinctively from white folks (which are already very diverse). Same could be said for urban Hispanics. Is America blowing apart and destroyed? fuck no.

Both of those groups suffer from economic disadvantages that breed crime, esp in the young men. I don't hear ANYTHING from Lamm, Repugs, white "Christians" to attack poverty, other than wanting to destory the New Deal and Great Society programs and help for those two groups. Lamm et al are more pre-occupied with accumulating/concentrating wealth at the very top, forcing more American citizens further down the economic scale. trickle-down is pure white/conservative bullshit.

What this Lamm asshole is really saying is that he wants the white/northern European "American" to be the dominant American group. As a conservative, he despises all change except when in his group's favor, so he's fundamentally anti-democratic. Democracy in his mouth means exclusively "my politicians better fucking win all the time, and any slimy, corrupt means justifies that end".

[RandomGuy]

I have a plan to destroy America.

Turn America into a monocultural country, with anything different scorned and automatically dismissed as inferior. History shows that ethno-centrism consistently leads to evil empires, like the British, German, or Japanese in recent history. When you can make the emotional, irrational case that anybody who looks, worships, or speaks differently is sub-human and deserves to be subjugated or worse yet, rounded up into camps for slow deaths, it is easier to convince the simple-minded that “obeying orders” doesn’t require ethical judgments. Virulent nationalism is a subtle, insipid and irresistible poison that darkens the spirit and provides a clear path to evil.

Second, to destroy America, constantly invent new enemies that don’t look or speak your language. When you can make a case to the faithful that their worst fears are true about their neighbor who looks different, they can take the easy path and not find out for themselves what that person is really like. People like to be lazy, and getting all your opinions from someone else who makes an emotionally appealing case is easier than actually going out and finding out real facts or taking the time to understand another culture.

The politics of outrage trump facts every time.

Make it an article of belief that your nation is 100% superior in all ways to everyone else’s. The differences between your culture and every other one is obviously because theirs is worse than yours. Since your culture is superior to everything else, your government must be infallible too.

I would make it an article of belief that leaders of the ruling party can’t be questioned, even when they break the law. To question leaders is to be unpatriotic and traitorous. Unity brings us into lockstep so we can all march together towards a greater nation.

I would encourage single-party government, and make strides towards permanent one-party rule. A good way to do this is to allow government to start spying on its own citizens in secret. Since the ruling party obviously knows what is best for everybody, create a climate of fear, so you can increase government police powers. Governments have always shown that they can be trusted with unchecked power, right? Only unchecked power has ever made societies safe and secure.

I would create a climate of secrecy in which anything remotely embarrassing to the ruling party is a state secret and to reveal any of these embarrassing secrets would be harming national security in a time of great crisis. The enemies of the rulers are the enemies of the state. I would put anybody that did this on trial, unless of course it was one of the rulers attempting to do the same thing for political gain. Hypocrisy is ok, because winning at any cost is the only concern for a one-party government.

To destroy America, you would also never tell the whole truth, and never admit you did anything wrong, especially when your incompetence directly gets people killed. Remember that you can’t maintain the image of an infallible leader if you have inconvenient part of the truth pointing to mistakes. The easy thing in these cases is to use that climate of secrecy to hide the climate of arrogance.

You would stand behind the really incompetent ones because they are weak link in your chain of one-party dominance. If they fail and people die, don’t admit they are less than perfect. Create an autocratic culture of loyalty to the party, because that is more important than loyalty to the public good.

You would consistently give in to business interests over the public good, because businesses provide jobs and money to your ruling party. The public good has to take a back seat so that exploitation of people and resources can be done in the most short-sighted manner. Short-term fixes will become the norm and long term vision will be forgotten. It is better to have the short-term profits to be had from pollution than it is to have a healthy productive workforce.

Once you have quashed the truth and gotten the nation into lockstep by marginalizing the opposition, you can solidify your one-party rule so that people will never think that there is any alternative to your infallible government. Once you can do that you can distract the people with short-term threats so that they lose sight of the long-term freedoms that you are slowly taking away when they aren’t looking. Because people don’t think for themselves, you can cook up any kind of harebrained short-term scheme, because the long run doesn’t matter anymore.

Then you have destroyed America and created a new totalitarianism the like of which the world has never seen.

[A-Train]

I don't think he's saying a plot, you're totally misreading it. He's just able to see the big picture and learned from history where we're headed.


Those Krauts destroyed America too, didn't they, with their refusal to stop speaking the mother tounge and enjoying their culture, no?

The worst thing you can say about Hispanic immigrants is that they come to this country to work the shit jobs that a lot of Americans would never take and open themselves up for exploitation at the hands of opportunistic employers. One wonders how the upper middle class would function without those immigrants ready to do their domestic chores while they enjoy the American dream...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I disagree. His history is bullshit. Several European countries are profoundly multi-cultural and are doing extremely well. India is extremely diverse with Hindus, Sihks, Muslims, etc and it's not blowing apart.

Croutons, you don't know shit. India is being overrun by one culture, and those that disagree are being quietly dealt with.


I disagree that having a bi-cultural/muti-culturea USA, due to a large Hispanic %age will "destroy America". What rabble-rousing, chauvinist bullshit.

What do you think is happening with our Medicare and social security programs? They can't sustain this country's needs as is, and you're telling me pileing 11 million illegals on top of the problem, many of whom don't pay into either SS or various public medical programs, isn't going to help destroy this country? What rabble-rousing, idiotic leftist bullshit.


The USA already is multi-cultural. Urban blacks speak a dialect of English and dress very distinctively from white folks (which are already very diverse). Same could be said for urban Hispanics. Is America blowing apart and destroyed? fuck no.


Ebonics? :lol Yes, there are different dialects of English being spoken in 'urban America', but I can still fucking understand them when they talk.

croutons, just admit that you're a socialist and get it over with. All your posts wreak of socialism. Maybe one day when you get a job and when that paycheck comes and 1/3 of your salary is gone before you get your check because it's going towards shit like taxes, Medicare, and Social Security, you'll get the picture.


The worst thing you can say about Hispanic immigrants is that they come to this country to work the shit jobs that a lot of Americans would never take and open themselves up for exploitation at the hands of opportunistic employers.

I have no problem with them coming and doing whatever job they can get. No matter the type of job it is, at least they are willing to get off their asses and work, unlike many in this country sucking the tit of welfare.

Actually the worst I can say about them is that they come here, take all their money back to Mexico, don't pay taxes, and leech off of our health care and social security programs, which aren't exactly headed in the right direction...

[Phenomanul]

I have a plan to destroy America.

Turn America into a monocultural country, with anything different scorned and automatically dismissed as inferior. History shows that ethno-centrism consistently leads to evil empires, like the British, German, or Japanese in recent history. When you can make the emotional, irrational case that anybody who looks, worships, or speaks differently is sub-human and deserves to be subjugated or worse yet, rounded up into camps for slow deaths, it is easier to convince the simple-minded that “obeying orders” doesn’t require ethical judgments. Virulent nationalism is a subtle, insipid and irresistible poison that darkens the spirit and provides a clear path to evil.

Second, to destroy America, constantly invent new enemies that don’t look or speak your language. When you can make a case to the faithful that their worst fears are true about their neighbor who looks different, they can take the easy path and not find out for themselves what that person is really like. People like to be lazy, and getting all your opinions from someone else who makes an emotionally appealing case is easier than actually going out and finding out real facts or taking the time to understand another culture.

The politics of outrage trump facts every time.

Make it an article of belief that your nation is 100% superior in all ways to everyone else’s. The differences between your culture and every other one is obviously because theirs is worse than yours. Since your culture is superior to everything else, your government must be infallible too.

I would make it an article of belief that leaders of the ruling party can’t be questioned, even when they break the law. To question leaders is to be unpatriotic and traitorous. Unity brings us into lockstep so we can all march together towards a greater nation.

I would encourage single-party government, and make strides towards permanent one-party rule. A good way to do this is to allow government to start spying on its own citizens in secret. Since the ruling party obviously knows what is best for everybody, create a climate of fear, so you can increase government police powers. Governments have always shown that they can be trusted with unchecked power, right? Only unchecked power has ever made societies safe and secure.

I would create a climate of secrecy in which anything remotely embarrassing to the ruling party is a state secret and to reveal any of these embarrassing secrets would be harming national security in a time of great crisis. The enemies of the rulers are the enemies of the state. I would put anybody that did this on trial, unless of course it was one of the rulers attempting to do the same thing for political gain. Hypocrisy is ok, because winning at any cost is the only concern for a one-party government.

To destroy America, you would also never tell the whole truth, and never admit you did anything wrong, especially when your incompetence directly gets people killed. Remember that you can’t maintain the image of an infallible leader if you have inconvenient part of the truth pointing to mistakes. The easy thing in these cases is to use that climate of secrecy to hide the climate of arrogance.

You would stand behind the really incompetent ones because they are weak link in your chain of one-party dominance. If they fail and people die, don’t admit they are less than perfect. Create an autocratic culture of loyalty to the party, because that is more important than loyalty to the public good.

You would consistently give in to business interests over the public good, because businesses provide jobs and money to your ruling party. The public good has to take a back seat so that exploitation of people and resources can be done in the most short-sighted manner. Short-term fixes will become the norm and long term vision will be forgotten. It is better to have the short-term profits to be had from pollution than it is to have a healthy productive workforce.

Once you have quashed the truth and gotten the nation into lockstep by marginalizing the opposition, you can solidify your one-party rule so that people will never think that there is any alternative to your infallible government. Once you can do that you can distract the people with short-term threats so that they lose sight of the long-term freedoms that you are slowly taking away when they aren’t looking. Because people don’t think for themselves, you can cook up any kind of harebrained short-term scheme, because the long run doesn’t matter anymore.

Then you have destroyed America and created a new totalitarianism the like of which the world has never seen.

YOU should email this to Lamm....

Seriously.

[smeagol]

Seriously, Aggie, that's a pile of horseshit you've quoted from that Lamm dude.

[xrayzebra]

I disagree that having a bi-cultural/muti-culturea USA, due to a large Hispanic %age will "destroy America". What rabble-rousing, chauvinist bullshit.

"History shows that no nation can survive the tension, conflict, and antagonism of two or more competing languages and cultures."

I disagree. His history is bullshit. Several European countries are profoundly multi-cultural and are doing extremely well. India is extremely diverse with Hindus, Sihks, Muslims, etc and it's not blowing apart.

The USA already is multi-cultural. Urban blacks speak a dialect of English and dress very distinctively from white folks (which are already very diverse). Same could be said for urban Hispanics. Is America blowing apart and destroyed? fuck no.

Both of those groups suffer from economic disadvantages that breed crime, esp in the young men. I don't hear ANYTHING from Lamm, Repugs, white "Christians" to attack poverty, other than wanting to destory the New Deal and Great Society programs and help for those two groups. Lamm et al are more pre-occupied with accumulating/concentrating wealth at the very top, forcing more American citizens further down the economic scale. trickle-down is pure white/conservative bullshit.

What this Lamm asshole is really saying is that he wants the white/northern European "American" to be the dominant American group. As a conservative, he despises all change except when in his group's favor, so he's fundamentally anti-democratic. Democracy in his mouth means exclusively "my politicians better fucking win all the time, and any slimy, corrupt means justifies that end".

There you go, the intellect of a true liberal. Please read the above
rant carefully. This is what they wish for our country. Thank you
boutons, you say so much in your rant.