I Don't Like John Edwards

[Guru of Nothing]

.... Nor am I a Cheney fan, but he exudes the requisite competence for the office.


I hope that John Edwards never becomes "my" Vice President.


John Edwards, meet your new career, as a talk show guest on "news" TV.

Edit to add: John Edwards is Dan Quayle with 10 more IQ points.

[SpursWoman]

I'm still waiting for him invoke the ghosts of past Vice Presidents.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

He's the worst of this world: liberal and a snobby lawyer.

[exstatic]

As opposed to some rich, cranky old oilman. Yeah, he's likeable. :devil

[SpursWoman]

I think I'd like him more if he would try to invoke a ghost. :lol

[ducks]

his look toward cheney is funny
he thinks he is above cheney

[Yonivore]

I really did hope he would "channel" an unborn child sometime during the debate. Damn!

[timvp]

All I know is Bill Clinton should sue John Edwards for stealing his patented thumb maneuver.

http://www.bubbygram.com/performers/clintontw.jpg

[exstatic]

LOL@timvp :rollin :rollin :rollin

He has that same appeal. I think a lot of Neocons here will be disappointed in the numbers for this debate. People just don't like Dick Cheney. It's a fact of life, and probalby unfair, but that's politics. If a negative Q rating were possible, he'd probably have it. People shown a picture of him probably identify him as their cranky old grandfather who always tries to grab the TV remote to switch to Lawrence Welk.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Cheney may remind people of grandpa.

Edwards reminds people of the rick prick everyone had in a class in HS or college and wanted to beat the shit out of (but knew they couldn't because he'd sue their ass).

[Marcus Bryant]

I think a lot of people do like Dick Cheney because he is a serious public official, not a slick talking empty suit.

[exstatic]

Perception is reality, MB. That's the way of the world. He comes across as surly and mean.

[Marcus Bryant]

Sure, why shouldn't he be surly? We have serious shit to deal with and intern Johnny won't get the coffee.

[Yonivore]

Perception is reality, MB. That's the way of the world. He comes across as surly and mean...
...and as having an absolute iron grasp of the job of Vice President and the global situation. Who cares if he's surly and mean?

[exstatic]

It's a media blitz, telegenic world, which is the only way that Bush gets by, and why Cheney is his ticket's anchor in tow. At least the Demo "empty suit" isn't in the top spot on the ticket...

[Marcus Bryant]

At least the top of the ticket knows what he stands for, even if he isn't glib.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

At least the Demo "empty suit" isn't in the top spot on the ticket..

Yeah, it's in both.

[Yonivore]

"It's a media blitz, telegenic world, which is the only way that Bush gets by,..."
Not with the "pajama people," not anymore.

"...and why Cheney is his ticket's anchor in tow."
That makes no sense.

"At least the Demo 'empty suit' isn't in the top spot on the ticket..."
Please, Kerry and Edwards, both, are all about symbolism over substance. From Kerry's insta-tan to Edwards patented "Clinton thumb thrust." They've convinced themselves the American people want pompous, wealthy, pretty boys running the country.

[whottt]

Cheney's worst crime is not ripping Edwards a bigger asshole on issues...

Cheney was the primary architect behind the Persian Gulf War Coalition, congress awarded him a medal for his work on building it. If Edwards knew dick he would have known that.

That coalition would not allow for going into Iraq either, that was why we didn't go in. Again, Edwards don't know dick.

Many of the countries involved in that war have a much smaller millitary now, and what's left of the European allies are heavily involved in Nato operations.

Still, Cheney won the debate and the election when he pointed out that Edwards might wind up as our president if Kerry wins....

Game over.

[Yonivore]

Cheney's worst crime is not ripping Edwards a bigger asshole on issues...

Cheney was the primary architect behind the Persian Gulf War Coalition, congress awarded him a medal for his work on building it.

That coalition would not allow for going into Iraq either, that was why we didn't go in.
And, if we had...it would have cost $120 Billion dollars.

[Nbadan]

This is what Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney said in 1991 about GW1 troops not attacking Baghdad..


Some have suggested that if we had gotten involved just a little bit -- for example, if we had shot down a few helicopters -- it would have changed the outcome of the conflict. I think that is a misguided notion. One of the lessons that comes out of all of this is we should not ask our military personnel to engage “a little bit” in a war. If you are going to go to war, let’s send the whole group; let’s make certain that we’ve got a force of sufficient size, as we did when we went into Kuwait, so that we do not suffer any more casualties than are absolutely necessary.
I think it is vitally important for a President to know when to use military force. I think it is also very important for him to know when not to commit U.S. military force. And it’s my view that the President got it right both times, that it would have been a mistake for us to get bogged down in the quagmire inside Iraq.

Source: (http://www.issues2000.org/2004/Dick_Cheney_Homeland_Security.htm) Speech at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy Apr 29, 1991

Of course, that didn't stop him from invading Baghdad in GW2.

The result - quagmire.

[whottt]

This is what Secretary of Defense Dick Cheney said in 1991 about GW1 troops not attacking Baghdad..



Source: (http://www.issues2000.org/2004/Dick_Cheney_Homeland_Security.htm) Speech at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy Apr 29, 1991

Of course, that didn't stop him from invading Baghdad in GW2.

The result - quagmire.

Yeah because we didn't plan on invading Iraq because the other countries wouldn't do it. If we'd gone into Iraq at that time we would have gone it alone. And we did not have the logistics to do it. We did not have the resources in the middle east to do it.

Quagmire? Did you expect us to do this in 2 days?

Bomb a country, topple it's government, and install a democracy in the middle east, in a year and a half?

How fast would you have preferred we did it? And do you really think you are being realistic with that time frame?

Every one approves the Afghanistan Invasion, we have been there longer.

[spurster]

I thought the debate was about a tie. Neither side made a gaffe. Both sides have a rather tenuous hold on the facts. Both sides promise more goodies without increasing taxes accordingly.

However, Cheney was the heavyweight and Edwards the lightweight to me. So if I was forced to pick a winner, it would be Cheney.

[Marcus Bryant]

Cheney's point on the 1991 Gulf War was that despite having a coalition behind the effort that included France and Germany and meeting every other presumable aspect of Kerry's "global test" that Kerry voted against it.

[JoeChalupa]

I've been a fan of John Edwards for a few years.

He'll have his shot at the big cheese.

[Yonivore]

I've been a fan of John Edwards for a few years.

He'll have his shot at the big cheese.
Joe, I'm afraid he "Quayled" (as unfair as that moniker is to former Vice President Dan Quayle) himself last night.

If he ever gets a chance he'll have to get re-elected to the Senate for about 4 decades and, quite frankly, the "Senator Gone" comment doesn't bode well for him remaining in public service long enough to reach the maturity necessary to outlive the memory of his dismal performance during this campaign. :smokin

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I have family in NC that says his Senatorial career is over in that state, and God willing he won't be VP come November.

His political career is over, unless he wants to be Hillary's chauffuer in '08.

[JoeChalupa]

His political career is far from over.

[Yonivore]

His political career is far from over.
That depends on the meaning of "far" in this context. If by saying "far from over" you mean November 2, 2004 is still far away, I agree. If by saying "far from over" you mean he still has an unexpired Senate term to exhaust before the North Carolinans throw his ass out on the street, you're right again.

However, if by "far from over" you mean that you see any future for this scheister, in national politics, beyond what only an impeachment could bring to an earlier conclusion, you're delusional.

[JoeChalupa]

I'm not delusional but it appears you live in your own fantasy world.

Have you seen Alice?

[Yonivore]

I'm not delusional but it appears you live in your own fantasy world.

Have you seen Alice?
Well, only time will tell...