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Ocotillo
05-12-2006, 09:07 AM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c219/talk2action/christian_flag.jpg

Michelle Goldberg (http://www.talk2action.org/story/2006/5/11/151212/239)

Christian nationalists believe in a revisionist history, which holds that the founders were devout Christians who never intended to create a secular republic; separation of church and state, according to this history, is a fraud perpetrated by God-hating subversives. One of the foremost Christian revisionist historians is David Barton, who , in addition to running an organization called Wallbuilders that disseminates Christian nationalist books, tracts and videos, is also the vice-chairman of the Texas Republican Party. The goal of Christian nationalist politics is the restoration of the imagined Christian nation. As George Grant, former executive director of D. James Kennedy's influential Coral Ridge Ministries, wrote in his book "The Changing of the Guard:"
"Christians have an obligation, a mandate, a commission, a holy responsibility to reclaim the land for Jesus Christ -- to have dominion in civil structures, just as in every other aspect of life and godliness.
But it is dominion we are after. Not just a voice.
It is dominion we are after. Not just influence.
It is dominion we are after. Not just equal time.
It is dominion we are after.
World conquest. That's what Christ has commissioned us to accomplish."

In the Christian nationalist vision of America, non-believers would be free to worship as they choose, as long as they know their place. When Venkatachalapathi Samuldrala became the first Hindu priest to offer an invocation before Congress, the Family Research Council issued a furious statement that reveals much about the America they'd like to create:

"While it is true that the United States of America was founded on the sacred principle of religious freedom for all, that liberty was never intended to exalt other religions to the level that Christianity holds in our country's heritage...Our founders expected that Christianity -- and no other religion -- would receive support from the government as long as that support did not violate peoples' consciences and their right to worship. They would have found utterly incredible the idea that all religions, including paganism, be treated with equal deference."

The iconography of Christian nationalism conflates the cross and the flag. As I write in "Kingdom Coming," it "claims supernatural sanction for its campaign of national renewal and speaks rapturously about vanquishing the millions of Americans who would stand in its way." At one rally at the statehouse in Austin, Texas, a banner pictured a fierce eagle perched upon a bloody cross. For a liberal, such imagery smacks of fascist agitprop. But plenty of deeply committed Christians also object to it as a form of blasphemy. It's important, I think, to separate their faith from the authoritarian impulses of the Christian nationalist movement. Christianity is a religion. Christian nationalism is a political program, and there is nothing sacred about it.

Funny you never hear Rush talking about these guys. One of his tactics is to pull what some extreme nut from the left is doing and hang it on all people who disagree with him. Using his logic, this is typcial conservative behavior.

101A
05-12-2006, 09:12 AM
Funny you never hear Rush talking about these guys. One of his tactics is to pull what some extreme nut from the left is doing and hang it on all people who disagree with him. Using his logic, this is typcial conservative behavior.

Therefore:

Ocotillo = Liberal Rush (without the money)

Ocotillo
05-12-2006, 09:14 AM
Oh if I were only as effective an advocate..... :lol

Oh, Gee!!
05-12-2006, 09:42 AM
I hope our government is spying on them.

DarkReign
05-12-2006, 12:36 PM
I hope our government is spying on them.

Would you spy on a campaign donor?

Oh, Gee!!
05-12-2006, 12:39 PM
Would you spy on a campaign donor?


i guess my sardonic humor really is lost on people.

Extra Stout
05-12-2006, 12:45 PM
i guess my sardonic humor really is lost on people.
No, I think he saw your joke, and raised it.

DarkReign
05-12-2006, 12:47 PM
No, I think he saw your joke, and raised it.

And then it was crushed underfoot by its originator.


















...wheres the "over your head" smily when ya need it

Oh, Gee!!
05-12-2006, 12:51 PM
No, I think he saw your joke, and raised it.

but he didn't put a :rolleyes or a :lol after his post, so I was all :wtf.

DarkReign
05-12-2006, 12:53 PM
Besides the previous post, when the **** have you ever used smilies to convey sarcasm.

Nice try. You fucked up. :rolleyes (<----happy?)

Oh, Gee!!
05-12-2006, 12:55 PM
Besides the previous post, when the **** have you ever used smilies to convey sarcasm.

Nice try. You fucked up. :rolleyes (<----happy?)


No, I'm :depressed. I hate being :owned by a fucking :idiot.

DarkReign
05-12-2006, 01:03 PM
Was it my lack of a question mark that required such a terse response?

Lack of puncuation kills threads.

Oh, Gee!!
05-12-2006, 01:06 PM
No, I'm just taking the joke too far.

DarkReign
05-12-2006, 02:57 PM
I forgot my smiley again.

nevermind. We have single-handedly killed whatever response this thread was intended to elicit.

PWNAGE!!!!11!1!1!!

Extra Stout
05-12-2006, 05:11 PM
When the Christian Dominionists rule, the only smilies allowed will be :angel and :worthy:.

:hitit: outside of marriage will result in :hang.

:drunk will be punished by :frying:

:jack will mean a visit from :nutkick:

:cop :cop :cop will ensure nobody can :cuss or :makeout in public.

There will be a chosen few :king :princess who control all the :bling.

If it makes you want to :bang your only option will be to head to :sombrero:.

Mr. Peabody
05-12-2006, 05:39 PM
When the Christian Dominionists rule, the only smilies allowed will be :angel and :worthy:.

:hitit: outside of marriage will result in :hang.

:drunk will be punished by :frying:

:jack will mean a visit from :nutkick:

:cop :cop :cop will ensure nobody can :cuss or :makeout in public.

There will be a chosen few :king :princess who control all the :bling.

If it makes you want to :bang your only option will be to head to :sombrero:.

:lol That was good.

Yonivore
05-12-2006, 06:00 PM
:lol That was good.
I concur.

DarkReign
05-13-2006, 12:16 PM
That was freakin awesome. ES saves the thread....kinda.

smeagol
05-13-2006, 02:25 PM
ES rules!