Official Referee Whining Thread (I have merged over 10 threads here)

[ShoogarBear]

What BS.

[A-Train]

No kidding.

[A-Train]

Damn that was a ridiculous call.

[ShoogarBear]

Peter Holt should start a piece of shit blog.

[Brutalis]

We will beat the Mavs and the Refs tonight.

[Pero]

I think the foul wasn`t because Nowitzki stepped on TD foot...

[ShoogarBear]

There was no other contact other than that.

[greyforest]

gg!!

[Pero]

Riiiight....
If the positions were reversed and TD would step on Nowitzkis foot you wouldn`t be saying this.

[braeden0613]

yes sir...Stern will sleep well tonight

[ginobme]

10 ft to close out the game for the mavs or something like that

[SpursGo25]

This shit is rigged, no doubt. Stern and the officials are commiting a felony and are getting away with it. It is a federal crime to rig a sporting event.

[Ginofan]

50-32. Gotta love that homecooked goodness.

[Mavs_Man 41]

omg some of u spurs fans are great and know alot about basketball....some of you on the other hand do nothing but bitch and dont know shit about the game

[SA210]

Refs > Spurs

[Leetonidas]

This was worse than GM 2. That was fucking horrible. What a disgrace.

[jacobdrj]

I think there was contact higher too, but yeah, had roles been reversed, I don't know if many of you would be so unsympathetic.

Spurs had a chance when Stack was at the line (gawd he is so freggin unclutch, perhaps the anti-Horry) and fumbled those 2 free throws.

[kskonn]

THat was a clean block. However It appeared the refs were missing calls, or I should making calls where they were not for both sides. That howard block on Ginobli was clean as well. It just sucked that it took our best player out of the game at the most crucial point.

[Dre_7]

Awful call, but Spurs still had a chance at the end. Bowen needed to get that D board and it would have been over. This series will be tied at 2-2.

[ALVAREZ6]

NBA refs are fucking retarded

[SA210]

Refs 2 Spurs 1

[Mavs_Man 41]

omg get a life and quit bitching about the calls.....no referee is perfect it was just a close game

[A-Train]

omg some of u spurs fans are great and know alot about basketball....some of you on the other hand do nothing but bitch and dont know shit about the game


You don't know shit about the game.

[kskonn]

I don't understand Why Pop did not put Rasho in for that last defensive stand. After duncan he is the best at the rim defender and he probably would have had that board.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

After this shit seeing those Mavs get eliminated will almost be as good as a championship, even if it's not at our hands...

[SpursDork]

Tim just said that in the post game conference.

'He didn't touch me, I didn't touch him. I was just getting out of the way when he was trying to create contact. There was zero contact on that play.'

[Mavs_Man 41]

yup i dont know shit about the game....do you even play organized basketball or have ever played?

[Mavs_Man 41]

because anyone can see that there was contact other than dirk landing on duncans foot

[A-Train]

yup i dont know shit about the game....do you even play organized basketball or have ever played?

Yes. Do you live at home with mommy and daddy?

[Guru of Nothing]

omg some of u spurs fans are great and know alot about basketball....some of you on the other hand do nothing but bitch and dont know shit about the game


Discuss the call, Mr. expert!

[td4mvp21]

I'm sick of the whole Mavs organization bitching about the referring. HOW CAN YOU BITCH WHEN YOUVE SHOT MORE FREE THROWS EVERY GAME?!!? WTF. Screw them all.

Spurs in Six BIATCH

[SA Gunslinger]

Bad call.

But what I want to know is what happened to the timeouts?

[kskonn]

I feel good about the next game though. Spurs seemed to have figured something out towards the end of that game. Ginobli seemed to finally get back on track. The real dissapointment was that incredibly lazy pass by Horry at the end of the game.

[A-Train]

because anyone can see that there was contact other than dirk landing on duncans foot

Bullshit. Dirk stepped on TD's foot, turned his ankle and then lost control of his drive before hitting TD up top.

[CharlieMac]

More importantly, how does Dirk shoot over 20 free throws? The refs realize that he didnt even post of Parker when he had teh chance, right?

[greyforest]

omg get a life and quit bitching about the calls.....no referee is perfect it was just a close game

dude not to disrespect your team, but they had 18 more FT attempts, and 19 more FT points than spurs.

DIRK ALONE made 21 points from free throws. he had 27 points total.

spurs made 22 points from free throws combined.

[kskonn]

because anyone can see that there was contact other than dirk landing on duncans foot
Yea the contact betweens duncans hand and the ball.

[Mavs_Man 41]

as he was falling backward he hit TD?

[FreshPrince22]

It was the forearm to the side of Dirk that they called, not Dirk stepping on Duncan's foot.

It was an iffy call, but that's what HCA is all about. Every team (including the Spurs) gets the treatment.

[thekingrobert]

all i can say is wow

[Ginofan]

omg get a life and quit bitching about the calls.....no referee is perfect it was just a close game

50 Fts to 32 Fts is NOT a close game.

[clubalien]

Obviously the ref was holding the foul until he found out if dirk was really injuried or just faking. (faking to get foul on tim) Just liek dirk aked and pointed at barry acting like he tripped him when barry didn't do jack

still cannot see how it was a foul on tim

I think it was well if mavs lose dirk then we will force spurs to lose tim


BUT WHY OH WHY did manu and horry turn the ball over the last secounds of the game

[jacobdrj]

Wow, will the fan-complaining never end? Right now, the only people (PEOPLE, not teams) the NBA is giving and iota of protection to are Kobe and LeBron, and not even so much LeBron. Kobe has been ousted (as he should be) and LeBron is 2 games from sharing Kobe's fate.

[Mavs_Man 41]

thank you fresh prince

[A-Train]

The forearm came after, not before. The correct call was a non-call.

[SA210]

dude not to disrespect your team, but they had 18 more FT attempts, and 19 more FT points than spurs.

DIRK ALONE made 21 points from free throws. he had 27 points total.

spurs made 22 points from free throws combined.
Refs are the MVP of this series.

Duncan a close second.

[Fabbs]

Did anyone even touch Kobe Novitski on the play he got the cheap assed *game winning* free throws he was Sterned?

Replay looks like Brent is literally two feet from touching poor little wussy Dirk.

[Mavs_Man 41]

The forearm came after, not before. The correct call was a non-call.
yup whatever you say

[kskonn]

The forearm came after, not before. The correct call was a non-call.

Exactly it went Foot, then Duncan got the Ball then contact with Dirk, that is not a foul.

[Dre_7]

The correct call was a non-call.

Exactly. But what can you do? Get a D board and SA wins. Nothin you can do cept win game 4.

[Mavs_Man 41]

people like you are hard headed so im not gonna argue with you anymore

[Lakerfan]

Even from the start of the game the Spurs looked effort-less. i know your probably gonna bash me but guess how many bullshit things we get from the Refs? the league hates the Lakers more then anything.

Good teams adjust to bad calls so i expect Pop to adjust to that.

[FreshPrince22]

The forearm came after, not before. The correct call was a non-call.

Home team is always going to get the benefit of the doubt. Cuban's head would have exploded if they didn't call that.

Actually, I would have liked to have seen that :lol

[picnroll]

omg some of u spurs fans are great and know alot about basketball....some of you on the other hand do nothing but bitch and dont know shit about the game
Hey dipshit Duncan had more contact than that from Diop and Dampier every time he went to the rack. How many FTs did Duncan get. Cuban blew Joey Crawford and apparently they both enjoyed it.

[kskonn]

But hey like I said the Foul on Howard blocking Ginobli was BS as well, it was a bad game for the refs all around.

[jacobdrj]

50 Fts to 32 Fts is NOT a close game.

FT disparagy is usualy more about who is the aggressor than who is being favored.

Even with your 'conspiracies' the Spurs had a chance with Stack being his usual unclutch self, and the Spurs couldn't do it.

Pop will regroup as he always does. This series is FAR from over. Have some faith in the team. They have obveously been able to overcome the opposing 15 (12+3 refs) 3 times in the past...

[A-Train]

It was the middle of the 2nd of Game 2 all over again. Anytime a Spur breathed there was a whistle, while the Spurs had to show blood to get a call on the other end, if that. Ref took TD out of the game on a bullshit call and that was the game winner.

Cuban will make his cabana boy happy tonight.

[picnroll]

It was the forearm to the side of Dirk that they called, not Dirk stepping on Duncan's foot.

It was an iffy call, but that's what HCA is all about. Every team (including the Spurs) gets the treatment.
How amny times did Dampier and Diop do that and more to Duncan with no calls. How many times has Duncan gone to the FT line 24 times?

[Ginofan]

More importantly, how does Dirk shoot over 20 free throws? The refs realize that he didnt even post of Parker when he had teh chance, right?

EXACTLY. How does a 7 foot ass NON POST player get to the line 20 fucking times.

[Mavs_Man 41]

Hey dipshit Duncan had more contact than that from Diop and Dampier every time he went to the rack. How many FTs did Duncan get. Cuban blew Joey Crawford and apparently they both enjoyed it.

all the fouls on diop and dampier were touch fouls. When dirk went to the line it was because he was hit in the act of shooting. period

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

spurs fans blaming the refs after another loss..........what a suprise

Spurs are getting outplayed

and Pop is getting outcoached by Aj.....

deal with it and stop blaming the stripes.........

enjoy fishing next week with the nuggets

[greyforest]

FT disparagy is usualy more about who is the aggressor than who is being favored.

Even with your 'conspiracies' the Spurs had a chance with Stack being his usual unclutch self, and the Spurs couldn't do it.

Pop will regroup as he always does. This series is FAR from over. Have some faith in the team. They have obveously been able to overcome the opposing 15 (12+3 refs) 3 times in the past...

if the spurs lose this series, it will be due to the games being fixed by foul calls, and i will lose immense amounts of interest in watching NBA if it turns in to WWF.

[A-Train]

spurs fans blaming the refs after another loss..........what a suprise

Spurs are getting outplayed

and Pop is getting outcoached by Aj.....

deal with it and stop blaming the stripes.........

enjoy fishing next week with the nuggets


Yet another bitch with championship envy.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Dirk scores 21 of his 27 from the free throw line.

:pctoss

What a fraud.

[ALVAREZ6]

:lmao

[Cant_Be_Faded]

see: 2003 series

[Borosai]

No...it was another phantom call.

[veruca]

It's always like this---you can't touch the fucking China Doll...i.e, the fucking German; that doesn't change; most of the fouls called that allowed him to to go to the FT line were pansy ass calls; for most part, it's been like this for games 2/3; we'll see how they call Game 4. What really amazes me is fucking refs don't seem to call it the same way on both teams; the disparity in free throws tells it all; (in game 2 FT were fairly even). Hopefully, the Spurs nut up and play their ass off against both Mavs/refs. Refs need to remember it's the fucking playoffs and call it that way.

[BruceBowenFan]

i agree with that

[zocool16]

fuck you you stupid piece of shit. jk

[Mavs_Man 41]

actually duncan is the pussy but whatever you say

[Mavs_Man 41]

actually duncan is the pussy but whatever you say

[greyforest]

spurs fans blaming the refs after another loss..........what a suprise

Spurs are getting outplayed

and Pop is getting outcoached by Aj.....

deal with it and stop blaming the stripes.........

enjoy fishing next week with the nuggets

do you know what reality is?
you two should meet sometime.


if i was a mavericks fan this would be a hollow win, because my team wouldn't have won by playing better.

[WalterBenitez]

I Will Tell You One More Time ... Refs Sucks

[SpursGo25]

It was the forearm to the side of Dirk that they called, not Dirk stepping on Duncan's foot.

It was an iffy call, but that's what HCA is all about. Every team (including the Spurs) gets the treatment.
BULLSHIT!!! Did you watch game 2? The SPURS got fucked in that game too.

[spurster]

It was a BS call.

[Ginofan]

FT disparagy is usualy more about who is the aggressor than who is being favored.

Even with your 'conspiracies' the Spurs had a chance with Stack being his usual unclutch self, and the Spurs couldn't do it.

Pop will regroup as he always does. This series is FAR from over. Have some faith in the team. They have obveously been able to overcome the opposing 15 (12+3 refs) 3 times in the past...

I have plenty of fucking faith in the team. Don't you dare doubt that. I just don't have the confidence in the officiating. You talk about the aggressor of the game. Did you happen to see Manu Ginobili in the second half? THAT, my friend, is aggression. Dirk is notorious for not being a true post player, he's NOT an aggressor. There's no way he should go to the line that many times unless we are talking OTs.

[jacobdrj]

if the spurs lose this series, it will be due to the games being fixed by foul calls, and i will lose immense amounts of interest in watching NBA if it turns in to WWF.

Great teams overcome even the referees. Fact.

[Fabbs]

Oh okay. How do you "adjust' when Stackhouse misses the shot, Dork Novitski gets the O board, misses the shot and is not even touched yet gets the game winning FTs? What were we supposed to do any differently?

Asshole shoots 3-9 yet gets 24 FTs. Adjust my ass. No team is so good they can overcome that bullcrap.

[A-Train]

Well, if it wasn't for the Spurs' decision to hack at will at the end of the game...

Anyways, that was ridiculous down the stretch. Especially when the refs bailed out Dirklutz.

[JMarkJohns]

I thought they whistled Bowen on that play?

if not, then there shouldn't have been a foul.

Tough loss. That you had it won...

Definately though Timmy got jobbed.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Yet another bitch with championship envy.


envy? yeh im envious of you sitting on ur butt cheering a team.........you do some hard work for that championship :rolleyes :wakeup

[picnroll]

all the fouls on diop and dampier were touch fouls. When dirk went to the line it was because he was hit in the act of shooting. period
The hell he was hit. Duncan went off on the refs big time in the post- game conference on that call and the BS calls in general. Duncan never goes off on the refs. About time.

[greyforest]

Great teams overcome even the referees. Fact.

i would say 103-104 when my team is down 19 points in FT shooting is fucking incredible.

i would also say its fucking pathetic to watch. if we would have won i wouldn't even cheer, i would still be fucking PISSED.

[A-Train]

I think they called Bowen for the hold down low.

[CharlieMac]

Dirk scores 21 of his 27 from the free throw line.

:pctoss

What a fraud.

Another eye-opening stat. For people with common sense of course.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

do you know what reality is?
you two should meet sometime.


if i was a mavericks fan this would be a hollow win, because my team wouldn't have won by playing better.

yep, reality is that the spurs are done

the mavs are the superior team this season and noone here can deal with it :lol

[ALVAREZ6]

I <3 NBA officiating!!!


In 5 years, if you look at someone it will be a technical.



This shit is crazy, no contact at all is allowed in the NBA. I don't see how it's possible to play a sport with 10 guys in a crammed area without allowing minor contact.

:flipoff NBA

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

yup i dont know shit about the game....do you even play organized basketball or have ever played?

Mavs Man 41,

Just because you were a team manager for the 6th grade girls team at your middle school doesn't mean you've ever 'played'.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

I wasn't sure what happened on that play, so I gave the officials the benefit of the doubt and assumed he must've been really hit. I'll have to go back and see what actually happened, but after all the stupid shit they were calling on one end it wouldn't shock me to see another phantom call go their way.

[greyforest]

yep, reality is that the spurs are done

the mavs are the superior team this season and noone here can deal with it :lol

the mavs are superior because they don't get called for fouling air.

watch the fucking game you fucking stupid retard faggot, it is FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE to not see ref bias.

[Lakerfan]

You adjust the plan not what the Refs are gonna do.

the Spurs had to play catch-up the whole game i expect the Spurs to get going early in Game 4.

[braeden0613]

omg get a life and quit bitching about the calls.....no referee is perfect it was just a close game
you get a life you know very well that if this went the other way...the entire town of dallas would be burning refs jerseys and cuban would be typing furiously on his computer

[KingsFanWithoutName]

These are the same posters complaining that the Kings shot too many FT's. Its called taking it to the hoop more than the other team.

[picnroll]

Dirks oin NBA TV now. Says his ankles okay but he strained his vagina agian.

[braeden0613]

i would say 103-104 when my team is down 19 points in FT shooting is fucking incredible.

i would also say its fucking pathetic to watch. if we would have won i wouldn't even cheer, i would still be fucking PISSED.
same here...it would be the first time i ever would be angry after a win

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

the mavs are superior because they don't get called for fouling air.

watch the fucking game you fucking stupid retard faggot, it is FUCKING IMPOSSIBLE to not see ref bias.

lol i love it........now ur attacking me personally

i can deal with my team sucking , its time for you to realise the spurs are done

poor you, taking a game so personally :lol :elephant

[picnroll]

Dirk said both team played great offnse in the 4th. What the fuck. Are FTs great offense.

[FreshPrince22]

I <3 NBA officiating!!!


In 5 years, if you look at someone it will be a technical.



This shit is crazy, no contact at all is allowed in the NBA. I don't see how it's possible to play a sport with 10 guys in a crammed area without allowing minor contact.

:flipoff NBA

You are a fan of Manu Ginobili. Stop complaining. Notice how his NBA career "took off" when the new rules were put in place that didn't allow you to touch on the perimeter?

If the game was called like it was 15-20 years ago you'd be complaining about Manu getting hacked. His game is all about drawing contact that doesn't exist.

Trust me, I wish it was called like it was back in the day. But be careful what you wish for.

[ShoogarBear]

Dirks oin NBA TV now. Says his ankles okay but he strained his vagina agian.Ew! He has a vagina? Mark Cuban just lost interest then.

[Texas_Ranger]

I would like to kick Sterns big white ass. I`m sure that he is happy right now, but when the SAS win their fourth NBA championsip...

[braeden0613]

lol i love it........now ur attacking me personally

i can deal with my team sucking , its time for you to realise the spurs are done

poor you, taking a game so personally :lol :elephant
youve never had to take a game seriously...BECAUSE YOURE A NUGGETS FAN

[greyforest]

lol i love it........now ur attacking me personally

i can deal with my team sucking , its time for you to realise the spurs are done

poor you, taking a game so personally :lol :elephant

what i take personally is fucking morons like you thinking spurs lost because they are old, or suck, or are boring, and not being able to see factual evidence that the game was heavily biased towards mavericks winning.

[Condemned 2 HelLA]

Jeez, yoiu'd think the Geldings were the Lamers tonight!
Look at Dirk the wrong way, send him to the line.
Dirk steps on your foot, send him to the line.
Be at the other end of the court away from Dirk, send him to the line.
I HATE bitching about ref calls, but that was just completely ludicrous!!!!
:pctoss :flipoff :vomit: :bang :cuss :idiot

[Ginofan]

Dirks oin NBA TV now. Says his ankles okay but he strained his vagina agian.
:lmao :lmao :lmao

[braeden0613]

lol i love it........now ur attacking me personally

i can deal with my team sucking , its time for you to realise the spurs are done

poor you, taking a game so personally :lol :elephant
edit:double post...slow server

[kskonn]

The minute you try to adjust your games to the refs you are done. You can only be aggressive, play through calls and come out on top. No need to adjust. I am sure there will be a game where some of these calls go to the spurs, it will even out over the series.

[JMarkJohns]

I checked the game log.

They did assess Barry, but I remember seeing Bowen grab Dirk from behind. I just figured it was him.

They may have assessed Barry because had they "called" it on Bowen, it would have been his sixth.

[ALVAREZ6]

You are a fan of Manu Ginobili. Stop complaining. Notice how his NBA career "took off" when the new rules were put in place that didn't allow you to touch on the perimeter?

If the game was called like it was 15-20 years ago you'd be complaining about Manu getting hacked. His game is all about drawing contact that doesn't exist.

Trust me, I wish it was called like it was back in the day. But be careful what you wish for.
I would rather have it that way.


You don't know WTF you're talking about.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Look, I wouldn't have a problem with it if the refs were anywhere near consistent.

But Duncan got much more contact from Diop and the hack crew that _allas calls its front line than Dirk was getting on all of the whistles he was getting. Total joke.

The thing that pisses me off the most is Dallas is sitting there like a bunch of vaginas crying about the officiating every game, and they are shooting more FTs than the Spurs every night.

What the fuck is that about? Thank God Tim Duncan stepped up tonight and called out the stripes, I am tired of Puban and the Whiny General getting all the charity love when they cry like the Vagina Monologues every damn day.

[/rant]

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I Heart Gitmo

[Pistons < Spurs]

I <3 NBA officiating!!!


In 5 years, if you look at someone it will be a technical.




This has already happened to Sheed.

[E20]

I hate Dirks smug grin.

[A-Train]

Dirklutz was bailed out again and again.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

Notice How All Conservatives On This Board Thought That Small Ball Was Key

[ALVAREZ6]

This has already happened to Sheed.
I don't mean looking at a ref after a bad call, I mean looking at player who is dribbling the ball in front of you. That will be a violation.

[Amuseddaysleeper]

uhh in fairness to dallas, the spurs have whined more than I've ever seen them in my life

[Cant_Be_Faded]

see: 2003 series

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

More stats:

Last five minutes of game:

Dallas: 13 possessions.
Possessions ending in FT attempts: 7.

Hip hop hooray for the officials.

[JohnMcClane]

I've seen some crazy sh!t in my life.. but I have never seen anything crazier than Duncan fans complaining about another star getting cheap fouls..

That's like Greg Popovich making fun of someone with a zit..

[ALVAREZ6]

Dirklutz was bailed out again and again.
These fucking refs love Dirk so much, they gave him so many calls, it was such crap.

[veruca]

:lol
Dirks oin NBA TV now. Says his ankles okay but he strained his vagina agian.


You're SOOO right!! I've always viewed Nowitzki as the biggest pansy/pussy/wussy in all the NBA. He plays with zero aggression yet gets all the calls from the ref for basically having won/done absofuckinglutely nothing!

[jacobdrj]

what i take personally is fucking morons like you thinking spurs lost because they are old, or suck, or are boring, and not being able to see factual evidence that the game was heavily biased towards mavericks winning.

I don't think that they are old, or suck, or are boring. They are a great team. But like many defending champions, they lack some hunger, the stuff that carries you through adversity. Duncan HAS the hunger. I am just not so sure some of the lesser Spurs do. No shame in that. Spurs will probably still come out with a win this series. But its going to be harder.

Don't take it so personal. I have seen some great teams not make it because of refs. The great ones can overcome them. Spurs almost did. Had Duncan (the lone superb Spur right now) been on the floor they probably would have. But the rest of the Spurs had a shot, and couldn't capitalize. So move on. Refs happen. Deal with it.

[Crookshanks]

I don't even want to hear anything about how great Dirk is - he got bailed out big time tonight. 21 points from free throws - what a joke!!!!

I hate the refs - why can't they call just one decent game?!

[CharlieMac]

3-1 lead against an Amare-less Sun's team.

[T Park]

Thank God Tim Duncan stepped up tonight and called out the stripes

I just got home, what did he say?

[SA210]

Since when in the hell did Dirk become Shaq and Kobe getting all these bs calls?

When?!!!!!

[Cant_Be_Faded]

I Was Fucking Saying This When We Won The Kigns Series, They Treat Dirk Like A Basketball God Lately In Dallas, I Konw--i Fucking Live Here

You Thin Ki Was Just Joking???

Its Fucking Legit, And A Very Simple Formula: If The Spurs Are Playing From Behind In Sa They Will Play From Behind Majorly In Dallas....and They Did....good Comeback, I Give Them Props, But Naturally Dirk Goes To The Line For A Game Winner, Its Natural, And The Spurs Played So Shitty They Could Not Overcome It.

[A-Train]

Mav Fan complaining about someone else critiquing foul calls? Now that's rich...

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Look, I wouldn't have a problem with it if the refs were anywhere near consistent.

But Duncan got much more contact from Diop and the hack crew that _allas calls its front line than Dirk was getting on all of the whistles he was getting. Total joke.

The thing that pisses me off the most is Dallas is sitting there like a bunch of vaginas crying about the officiating every game, and they are shooting more FTs than the Spurs every night.

What the fuck is that about? Thank God Tim Duncan stepped up tonight and called out the stripes, I am tired of Puban and the Whiny General getting all the charity love when they cry like the Vagina Monologues every damn day.

[/rant]You hate that the Mavs whine about fouls, but then you are glad that Duncan whines about the refs? You can't have it both ways. And trust me, the Cuban owned Mavs are the one team the league would love to fuck over, they aren't getting any charity love, they are taking it to the rim.

[A-Train]

uhh in fairness to dallas, the spurs have whined more than I've ever seen them in my life

...with good reason.

[leemajors]

ask phil jackson.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Lakerfan, I've seen you cry about the refs and how they treat the "Sterns" enough to know that you should shut the fuck up.

And unlike candy ass zocool, I mean it.

[ALVAREZ6]

And trust me, the Cuban owned Mavs are the one team the league would love to fuck over, they aren't getting any charity love, they are stepping onto peoples' feet.

[Texas_Ranger]

50 freethows in one game, ohoho. After the game if you don`t hate the refs, then you really are stupid :madrun

[SpursGo25]

FT disparagy is usualy more about who is the aggressor than who is being favored.

Even with your 'conspiracies' the Spurs had a chance with Stack being his usual unclutch self, and the Spurs couldn't do it.

Pop will regroup as he always does. This series is FAR from over. Have some faith in the team. They have obveously been able to overcome the opposing 15 (12+3 refs) 3 times in the past...
BULLSHIT!!!! The Spurs were just as aggressive but did not get the calls. This isnt basketball anymore, it's WWE with a ball. Dirk is a 7 foot guy who never posts and drives out of control to the basket, yet gets free throws up the ass. Horrible. This is rigged, and if you cant see it then you are blind or dumb, maybe both.

[Mavs<Spurs]

I don't complain about the refs very much, but this situation is getting way out of control.

Mavs shoot 50 free throws again? Dirk is a perimeter jumpshooter, not exactly the player you expect to get to the line (unlike Shaq or Lebron or Carmelo or Wade - or Tim Duncan)! This appears to be a trend.

Don't these refs understand the difference between regular season and playoff basketball?

That last call on Duncan is a joke. You don't make a mistake that big that late in an important playoff game.

[JohnMcClane]

Maybe if the Spurs didn''t WHINE about avery single call even when it is totally frickin obvious.. then you might have an excuse for complaining about calls.

The Mavs haven't complained about calls this whole series.

[danyel]

Breaking news the refs give a lot of questionable calls to an allstar player playing home during the playoffs...how could we not see this coming?

Mavs were a lot more aggresive than the Spurs, its the NBA, you've got to live with that.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Alvarez-

That was a questionable call, but it was only one foul. And if you really want to dissect that call, look where Duncan's feet are............they are inside the arc.

[veruca]

Why is it that the biggest pansy/pussy/wussy in the nba gets so many calls when he plays with ZERO aggression and most of his playing is outside the perimeter??? Yet Timmy gets hit or hacked and doesn't get 1/2 respect the damn China Doll (damn German) does?????

[Mavs_man_41]

Mavs Man 41,

Just because you were a team manager for the 6th grade girls team at your middle school doesn't mean you've ever 'played'.

No, actually what i am asking is what makes you think you know so much about basketball? Some of the things that go on out there you wouldnt under stand unless you've played on a high school or collegiate level. You're probably just a casual fan who doesnt even watch untill the playoffs and you get on here acting like a big shot.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

I just got home, what did he say?

He said that the call on him where Dirk stepped on his foot that there was no contact, just Dirk stepping on his foot, and it shouldn't have been a foul.


You hate that the Mavs whine about fouls, but then you are glad that Duncan whines about the refs? You can't have it both ways.

And you can't read for shit. What I said is that it's bullshit that the Mavs cry about the calls when they're already getting the benefit of the stripes out there. They're basically crying out that they're not getting treated fairly and then going out and fucking raping our guys and getting away with it.

Tell me how a fucking jump shooter in Dirk shoots 27 FTs, the Spurs shoot all of 32. That's bullshit.

[Holmes_Fans]

Was the play when manu bounced it off his knee a foul to?

[MannyIsGod]

:lmao that your thread now says it was started by Lakerfan.

[infinite styles]

I checked the game log.

They did assess Barry, but I remember seeing Bowen grab Dirk from behind. I just figured it was him.

They may have assessed Barry because had they "called" it on Bowen, it would have been his sixth.

Didn't stop them from calling Duncan for his sixth. :depressed

[greyforest]

I don't think that they are old, or suck, or are boring. They are a great team. But like many defending champions, they lack some hunger, the stuff that carries you through adversity. Duncan HAS the hunger. I am just not so sure some of the lesser Spurs do. No shame in that. Spurs will probably still come out with a win this series. But its going to be harder.

Don't take it so personal. I have seen some great teams not make it because of refs. The great ones can overcome them. Spurs almost did. Had Duncan (the lone superb Spur right now) been on the floor they probably would have. But the rest of the Spurs had a shot, and couldn't capitalize. So move on. Refs happen. Deal with it.

much classier post.

i think its absolutely incredible though what happened in tonights game. i would like a highlight reel composed completely of phantom calls.

[ALVAREZ6]

Alvarez-

That was a questionable call, but it was only one foul. And if you really want to dissect that call, look where Duncan's feet are............they are inside the arc.
:lmao :lmao :lmao

So now it's a foul when a player steps on your foot when it is inside the arc??????


Give me a break, that is hilarious though.


Does it really matter where his foot is???

[Mavs_man_41]

Was the play when manu bounced it off his knee a foul to?

haha actually on the replay it looked like devin harris knocked it off manu's knee but still very funny :lol

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

We fans can't get are heads around these things, like griping about officiating. It's just something good teams have to overcome..Complaining about the refs won't win us the games. I'm sure our Kings fans posters can attest to that.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Tell me how a fucking jump shooter in Dirk shoots 27 FTs, the Spurs shoot all of 32. That's bullshit.
Its quite simple. The Mavs were taking it to the hoop ALL FUCKING NIGHT LONG. The Spurs were not.

[ALVAREZ6]

Why is it that the biggest pansy/pussy/wussy in the nba gets so many calls when he plays with ZERO aggression and most of his playing is outside the perimeter??? Yet Timmy gets hit or hacked and doesn't get 1/2 respect the damn China Doll (damn German) does?????
The NBA hates the Spurs.


All refs are out to get them for being classy. You would expect the opposite, but I guess not.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

:lmao :lmao :lmao

So now it's a foul when a player steps on your foot when it is inside the arc??????


Give me a break, that is hilarious though.


Does it really matter where his foot is???For a blocking foul, which was called, yes, it does matter.

[ALVAREZ6]

I really hate Mark Cuban though, he is such a fucking fuck.


He's so full of himself, he thinks he's tough, he thinks he's a chick magnet.


I would love to beat the fuck out of the pansy ass bitch.

[ALVAREZ6]

For a blocking foul, which was called, yes, it does matter.
So if you are stationary, and someone steps on your fucking foot, it's your fault??????

[veruca]

I hate Dirks smug grin.

I hate his fake teeth smug grin; he really should get better dentures where they don't look so fake....you know he can afford them.

[fraga]

Is it me...or are the Refs totally out to get us...I was just at my boys house...whose got TIVO...and damn...replaying those "questionable" calls...I mean it can't be more obvious then that...dammit...

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Its quite simple. The Mavs were taking it to the hoop ALL FUCKING NIGHT LONG. The Spurs were not.

Um, the Spurs probably scored over half their points in the paint, thanks proving you didn't watch the game and are here to troll.

[Mavs<Spurs]

I was agree with the gist of this thread.

That was a horrible call against Duncan.

Refs should not determine the outcome of games. When Mavs shoot 50 free throws, something is wrong. Does David Stern really think that a game where each team (lol wish that they were equal) shoots 50 free throws is an entertaining game and a product with much appeal? If so, he needs to think again.

This is not the way that playoff games have been called historically and I don't believe that this game was anomalous in the amount of "fouls" committed. The same amount of physical contact took place.

Like Madden says about NFL, you can call a foul on every play if you want.

The contact resulted from Dirk stepping on Tim's foot. Therefore, it should not have been counted as a foul on Tim. It should have been a no call. Unless there is a clear, unambiguous foul that absolutely must be called, the refs should let the teams play and lay off the whistle.

[leemajors]

Um, the Spurs probably scored over half their points in the paint, thanks proving you didn't watch the game and are here to troll.

agreed. the spurs took it to the rack the entire second half.

[ALVAREZ6]

Ew! He has a vagina? Mark Cuban just lost interest then.
:lol

[infinite styles]

Maybe if the Spurs didn''t WHINE about avery single call even when it is totally frickin obvious.. then you might have an excuse for complaining about calls.

The Mavs haven't complained about calls this whole series.

Ummm....dumbass why would they. They took care of that after game 1 and its helped them since. STFU.

[Mr. Peabody]

The Spurs didn't play well enough and got beat. Refs had nothing to do with this. Maybe the Spurs will play with an increased sense of urgency next time.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

No, actually what i am asking is what makes you think you know so much about basketball? Some of the things that go on out there you wouldnt under stand unless you've played on a high school or collegiate level.


Well, I've played ball up through high school. To play devil's advocate, what kind of stuff leads to a pussy ass jump shooter shooting 24 FTs tonight? Humor me.



You're probably just a casual fan who doesnt even watch untill the playoffs and you get on here acting like a big shot.

Does someone want to help the Bride of Cuban here out on this one? :lmao

[Fabbs]

Since when in the hell did Dirk become Shaq and Kobe getting all these bs calls?

When?!!!!!

On a positive note, can you blow up your avatar about 10Xs?
Who is she?

[A-Train]

Maybe if the Spurs didn''t WHINE about avery single call even when it is totally frickin obvious.. then you might have an excuse for complaining about calls.

The Mavs haven't complained about calls this whole series.

:spin

Whatever, cornbread.

[Shank]

It's funny. If you watch the Mavs during the game, it's as though Avery has told them to keep quiet after each call. As for the Spurs, the whining during the game is ri-fucking-diculous.

[A-Train]

It's not hard to stay quiet when you're getting the calls.

[SA210]

On a positive note, can you blow up your avatar about 10Xs?
Who is she?
Maybe I'll put her in my sig.

It's my friend J. Lo. :smokin

[Texas_Ranger]

How ould the ref see if there was foul by Barry. That ball should be for the Spurs, because that was jus a normal turnover by Dirk.

[SpursGo25]

I don't think that they are old, or suck, or are boring. They are a great team. But like many defending champions, they lack some hunger, the stuff that carries you through adversity. Duncan HAS the hunger. I am just not so sure some of the lesser Spurs do. No shame in that. Spurs will probably still come out with a win this series. But its going to be harder.

Don't take it so personal. I have seen some great teams not make it because of refs. The great ones can overcome them. Spurs almost did. Had Duncan (the lone superb Spur right now) been on the floor they probably would have. But the rest of the Spurs had a shot, and couldn't capitalize. So move on. Refs happen. Deal with it.
You are missing the point. The Spurs should not have been without Duncan. The Refs should not be intentionally biased. This is a crime. If I stole something from you, would you want me punished? Of course you would. IT is a federal crime to fix a sporting event in any way, and that is what has happened. The fans should show Stern that this will not be tolerated. No more merch. No more tickets to games. Demand that Stern be removed and banned from basketball forever.

[Holmes_Fans]

Refs blew plenty of calls for the Mavs to. What about the Josh Howard block with 1:25 left, it was %100 clean. And did the refs make manu bounce the ball off his knee?

[Mavs<Spurs]

The Spurs didn't play well enough and got beat. Refs had nothing to do with this. Maybe the Spurs will play with an increased sense of urgency next time.

In game 2, as bad as the officials were, the Spurs clearly need look no further than the mirror to find why they lost the game. The game 2 loss falls squarely on the shoulders of every Spur not named Tim Duncan.

In game 3, we encounter a different situation. Tim Duncan got a lame call for his sixth foul removing our best player from the team. His presence at the defensive end could bring a needed stop. His presence at the offensive end gives order to our offense which revolves around him. Plays run better when he is in the game.

It is not too much to say that if he is in the game, we probably win this game and we lost because he was called for a nonexistent 6th foul. This is not to even mention the horrible discrepancy at the free throw line in general, especially considering that the Spurs score at least as many points in the paint as the Mavs. Since the refs wrongly caused him to remove him from the game and with him in the game we would have won the game, it is logical to conclude that the refs caused us to lose this game.

[SouthernFried]

This is the most disgraceful game I've seen in 30 years of watching basketball.

[braeden0613]

It's not hard to stay quiet when you're getting the calls.
shot down!

[ALVAREZ6]

Refs had nothing to do with this.
The refs??


No way!!!

Of course they had no say in this game, none at all...absolutely not their fault. The Mav's average 50 trips to the stripe anyway, so it clearly is 100% the Spurs fault.

[SA210]

Who's looking forward to Bennette Salvitore?

[timvp]

:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss:pctoss

[JohnMcClane]

The Spurs whine even after they GET a call... that's how ingrained it is.

[ALVAREZ6]

This is the most disgraceful game I've seen in 30 years of watching basketball.
I thought game 2 was worse.



absolute horse shit performance from the Spurs.

[greyforest]

The Mavs haven't complained about calls this whole series.

Why would they?


I'll give you about four days to think about this and come up with the answer.

[timvp]

http://nandotimes.nandomedia.com/images/gallery/sports/nba/20050608/det2000.0.jpg
Both Teams Played Hard

[KingsFanWithoutName]

The foul disparity was not much. Dallas 26 fouls, SA 33 fouls. Stop bitching.

[ponky]

It's funny. If you watch the Mavs during the game, it's as though Avery has told them to keep quiet after each call. As for the Spurs, the whining during the game is ri-fucking-diculous.

They've always whined during the game and now Duncan is saying some crap during the post-game? I thought the Spurs were above that kind of thing. It was bad when AJ talked about some silly *bear-hug* defense during the post-game but it's alright for Timmy. I understand though, Timmy had a monstrous game and they still lost. Keep talkin' shit Timmy, there's always your wife who might listen.

[Mr. Peabody]

In game 2, as bad as the officials were, the Spurs clearly need look no further than the mirror to find why they lost the game. The game 2 loss falls squarely on the shoulders of every Spur not named Tim Duncan.

In game 3, we encounter a different situation. Tim Duncan got a lame call for his sixth foul removing our best player from the team. His presence at the defensive end could bring a needed stop. His presence at the offensive end gives order to our offense which revolves around him. Plays run better when he is in the game.

It is not too much to say that if he is in the game, we probably win this game and we lost because he was called for a nonexistent 6th foul. This is not to even mention the horrible discrepancy at the free throw line in general, especially considering that the Spurs score at least as many points in the paint as the Mavs. Since the refs wrongly caused him to remove him from the game and with him in the game we would have won the game, it is logical to conclude that the refs caused us to lose this game.

Bad calls are a part of the game.
You have to take the game out of the refs hands.
Simple fact is that if Manu doesn't turn it over in the clutch, Spurs win.

[SpursGo25]

The foul disparity was not much. Dallas 26 fouls, SA 33 fouls. Stop bitching.
shouldnt you be fishing? Shut the fuck up and leave OUR forum. Troll.

[greyforest]

The foul disparity was not much. Dallas 26 fouls, SA 33 fouls. Stop bitching.

i dont bitch about game 2

but game 3, 50 - 32, its utterly ridiculous. its not fun to watch a game in which your team wins against the other team, but loses to officiating.

[ALVAREZ6]

The foul disparity was not much. Dallas 26 fouls, SA 33 fouls. Stop bitching.
statistics don't mean shit in this situation, when the Spurs were fouled, they were clearly fouled.



I can't say the same about the Mavs.

[SA210]

Refs 2 Spurs 1

[ALVAREZ6]

Spurs 1 Mavs 1 Refs 1

[KingsFanWithoutName]

shouldnt you be fishing? Shut the fuck up and leave OUR forum. Troll.Until the forum becomes PRIVATE, I think I'll stay.

[Mr. Peabody]

Refs 2 Spurs 1

Right, because the Spurs would never lose a game if the refs were on the up and up...

:rolleyes

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

The foul disparity was not much. Dallas 26 fouls, SA 33 fouls. Stop bitching.
In close games Refs really do have an impact ...if this were a blowout..then maybe not....but it was pretty ugly..Ticky-tack bullshit. In SpursKings series, comparably, that was better.. JUST LET US PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME. How many fouls did Duncan just brush Dirk, barely touched him? Ginobili's phantom call? Ticky-tack crap. It was horrible in the beginning. It was horrible at the end.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

i dont bitch about game 2

but game 3, 50 - 32, its utterly ridiculous. its not fun to watch a game in which your team wins against the other team, but loses to officiating.
I understand where you are coming from, but give it a rest. You constantly bitch about officiating.


Had your team made more of its 32 freethrows, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

[tetasfromtejas]

The foul disparity was not much. Dallas 26 fouls, SA 33 fouls. Stop bitching.


how many of those fouls were non shooting fouls called against dallas?

[Winnipeg_Spur]

Who gives a shit. The Mavs + Refs are still worse than the Pistons, so if we can't beat these 8 guys we won't be able to beat Detroit either.

Spurs will get it done though.

[SA210]

Right, because the Spurs would never lose a game if the refs were on the up and up...

:rolleyesI got the games recorded. I can replay it and see the bs calls.
It's obvious. Just because the Spurs are human and can lose games doesnt excuse bogus officiating.

[Horry For 3!]

Fuck the refs! They can die!

[4001 STEREO SPUR]

After this shit seeing those Mavs get eliminated will almost be as good as a championship, even if it's not at our hands...

I would have to agree.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

In close games Refs really do have an impact ...if this were a blowout..then maybe not....but it was pretty ugly..Ticky-tack bullshit. In SpursKings series, comparably, that was better.. JUST LET US PLAY THE GODDAMN GAME. How many fouls did Duncan just brush Dirk, barely touched him? Ginobili's phantom call? Ticky-tack crap. It was horrible in the beginning. It was horrible at the end.
Not saying that you complained during the Kings/Spurs series, but this same officiating bias shit was still going on. When the Kings took it to the hoop all night and shot more freethrows, it was a conspiracy against the Spurs. It seems like a lot of people here think the league is out to get the Spurs, and that is complete bullshit.


Were there questionable calls tonight............sure. And I saw them go both ways. With 1:25 left in the fourth, Manu was clearly blocked cleanly from behind, what happened? Manu goes to the line. That was a momentum changer there, after that, I surely thought the Spurs would win.

[ALVAREZ6]

The NBA is gonna have to make the foul limit 8 for next season, you can't expect a big man only picking up 5 safe fouls in 48 minutes...especially with the complete ticky-tack shit that is even considered a foul.


Basketball is a Sport.

Sports involve contact.

How is a sport that features 10 big athletes, running and jumping around in a limited space, not going to allow minor contact???

[ALVAREZ6]

Fuck the refs! They can die!
that's something I strongly agree with.

[Mr. Peabody]

The NBA is gonna have to make the foul limit 8 for next season, you can't expect a big man only picking up 5 safe fouls in 48 minutes...especially with the complete ticky-tack shit that is even considered a foul.


Basketball is a Sport.

Sports involve contact.

How is a sport that features 10 big athletes, running and jumping around in a limited space, not going to allow minor contact???

Right, let's change the game next year because the Spurs lost by one point tonight....

[1Parker1]

I don't usually bitch about officiating, but there were some crazy calls there in the 4th. I'm sure in the grand scheme of things, there were a few phantom calls that went the Spurs way throughout the game too, but the 4th quarter the calls the Mavs were getting, I couldn't even figure out where the foul was on the replays. Very bad officiating all around. Refs should just let the players play the game in a close 4th quarter like that, they shouldn't have such a large influence on the outcome like they did.

[4001 STEREO SPUR]

The NBA is gonna have to make the foul limit 8 for next season, you can't expect a big man only picking up 5 safe fouls in 48 minutes...especially with the complete ticky-tack shit that is even considered a foul.


Basketball is a Sport.

Sports involve contact.

How is a sport that features 10 big athletes, running and jumping around in a limited space, not going to allow minor contact???


They'll make it 8 for the rest of the league, except the Spurs will be allowed 4.
:lol

[Horry For 3!]

Dirk steps on Timmy's foot, Timmy fouls out :rolleyes

[ShoogarBear]

Notice How All Conservatives On This Board Thought That Small Ball Was Key
:lmao

Overcompensating for their Tahoes, no doubt.

[tim_duncan_fan]

Were there questionable calls tonight............sure. And I saw them go both ways. With 1:25 left in the fourth, Manu was clearly blocked cleanly from behind, what happened? Manu goes to the line. That was a momentum changer there, after that, I surely thought the Spurs would win.

Everyone arguing against the spurs is using this same, single BS call. How many BS calls went against the Spurs? About 20 times this amount.

[ludoscok]

Yes there were missed calls...but they went both ways...as mentioned before the Howard block of Manu that was clean and a foul was called. IMO the blocking foul that was called on Harris should have been a charge. There were bad calls both directions thats just the NBA. I for one seeing that Crawford was reffing the game almost penciled in a loss for this one because of the way he refs mavs games. And if you want to talk about bad calls you have to go back to the final possesion of game 1 when Bowen hacked Dirk for that matter Dirk was hacked everytime he drove the lane and didnt get calls. The only reason we had more free throws is because we took the ball to the lane more often...

Maybe instead of blaming the officials start worrying about turnovers and how to stop Devin Harris, who for the 2nd game in a row has lit the spurs up.

[ludoscok]

Everyone arguing against the spurs is using this same, single BS call. How many BS calls went against the Spurs? About 20 times this amount.

Start naming them...

[ALVAREZ6]

Right, let's change the game next year because the Spurs lost by one point tonight....
No, let's change the game next year because I am constantly sickened by the officiating, no matter which teams are playing.


It's either we get real refs with a different mentality, or, we change the game.



How fun is it to watch an NBA game now a days??? The game has to be put on hold every 10 seconds, it's so boring. Basketball is becoming more closely related to football and baseball because they pause so fucking much.

[ponky]

Everyone arguing against the spurs is using this same, single BS call. How many BS calls went against the Spurs? About 20 times this amount.

I have the game on tivo and can watch it in slo-mo. Why don't you write them all down and I'll come up with some for the Mavs. We'll compare, don't forget the no calls and the phantom fouls. I am dead serious.

[ludoscok]

No, let's change the game next year because I am constantly sickened by the officiating, no matter which teams are playing.


It's either we get real refs with a different mentality, or, we change the game.



How fun is it to watch an NBA game now a days??? The game has to be put on hold every 10 seconds, it's so boring. Basketball is becoming more closely related to football and baseball because they pause so fucking much.

I agree 100% something needs to be done about officiating. Every single NBA game has blown call after blown call. They need to have a system of acountability and rate the refs so that if your suckin it up you dont get to ref as many games or have to go through some sort of training. Also they should take the best rated officials and use them for the playoffs...kind of what Mark Cuban said they should do.

[Mr. Peabody]

No, let's change the game next year because I am constantly sickened by the officiating, no matter which teams are playing.

It's either we get real refs with a different mentality, or, we change the game.

How fun is it to watch an NBA game now a days??? The game has to be put on hold every 10 seconds, it's so boring. Basketball is becoming more closely related to football and baseball because they pause so fucking much.

The games are pretty fun to watch when the Spurs win.

[greyforest]

How fun is it to watch an NBA game now a days??? The game has to be put on hold every 10 seconds, it's so boring. Basketball is becoming more closely related to football and baseball because they pause so fucking much.

it depends on who is officiating the game, and also how much money they were paid to throw it.

[ludoscok]

I have the game on tivo and can watch it in slo-mo. Why don't you write them all down and I'll come up with some for the Mavs. We'll compare, don't forget the no calls and the phantom fouls. I am dead serious.

See we can play this game back and forth all night long for both this game and game one but the outcome will still be the same...Game one Spurs 87-85, game three Mavs 104-103...nothing will change.

[SA210]

The games are pretty fun to watch when the Spurs win.
Rewatch the 4th quarter.

[clubalien]

but if throwing a ball off some ones foot was lways going to be a reset of shot clock to 14 even if the player didn't actual kick it why have a shot clock at all all they have to do is throw it at your foot and get ball back with more time

tht said the spurs turining over ball at end of game lost it not the refs

why would pop draw up a play where we turn over the ball

I am still suprised by how many times stackhouse has been choking the end of games

[tim_duncan_fan]

for that matter Dirk was hacked everytime he drove the lane and didnt get calls

DIRK DOES NOT GET HACKED WHEN HE GOES TO THE BASKET!!!!

I am so tired of people saying this shit! What happens when Dirk goes to the basket( and this is about 90 percent of the time) is that Dirk runs full speed into the lane, trips over his own clumsy-ass feet, throws up a shot and hits the ground. Then he gets a bullshit foul-call because the only thing the refs can see is that he fell down.

[ALVAREZ6]

The games are pretty fun to watch when the Spurs win.

That's because games are fun to watch when they are called fairly.

[SpursGo25]

I dont see how any basketball fan could not be outraged at the biased officiating. We should not take this bullshit anymore. Demand a fair game!

[ludoscok]

That's because games are fun to watch when they are called fairly.

so your saying that games are only called fairly when the spurs win...i see a small hole in your arguments then...

[greyforest]

so your saying that games are only called fairly when the spurs win...i see a small hole in your arguments then...

NO

SHUT THE FUCK UP FUCKING IDIOT PUTTING WORDS IN OUR MOUTHS

WE DESERVED TO LOSE GAME 2 WE PLAYED SHITTY

WE WON FUCKING GAME 3, SHUT THE FUCK UP STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT GET THE FUCK OFF THE FORUMS.


sorry had to vent on idiot :fro

[ALVAREZ6]

so your saying that games are only called fairly when the spurs win...i see a small hole in your arguments then...
No, I'm saying that when games are fair, when it's decided by the players, the Spurs usually win.

[Tek_XX]

Does the NBA have contact info? I would like to tell them what i think. Seems they make sure none of this is anywhere on the web.

[doldrums]

it depends on who is officiating the game, and also how much money they were paid to throw it.

although the refs were horrible, the Spurs did cover the line of +3. It wasn't gambling related it was a nonsense 6th foul on Tim that turned the tide.

[ludoscok]

NO

SHUT THE FUCK UP FUCKING IDIOT PUTTING WORDS IN OUR MOUTHS

WE DESERVED TO LOSE GAME 2 WE PLAYED SHITTY

WE WON FUCKING GAME 3, SHUT THE FUCK UP STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT GET THE FUCK OFF THE FORUMS.


sorry had to vent on idiot :fro

Hey i am just following the logic that he used...o and after checking the score again the Mavs actually won game 3...and no i wont get the fuck off the forums...

[PhxSuns]

LOL. Bitter Much?

GG Spurs. Too bad the refs didn't fall for your flopping. So sad. Go Mavs, and Go Suns!

[SpursGo25]

You are a fan of Manu Ginobili. Stop complaining. Notice how his NBA career "took off" when the new rules were put in place that didn't allow you to touch on the perimeter?

If the game was called like it was 15-20 years ago you'd be complaining about Manu getting hacked. His game is all about drawing contact that doesn't exist.

Trust me, I wish it was called like it was back in the day. But be careful what you wish for.
he's not saying to stop calling any fouls, just stop calling the touch bullshit - especially one sided like it was tonight, tuesday, and many other games. Calling fouls according to the basketball rules is really simple - a foul is when a player gains an unfair competitive advantage through the use of physical contact. Therefore, if the offensive player initiates contact and the defensive player is not initiating contact - there is no foul on the defensive player and only a foul if the offensive player uses the contact to gain an unfair advantage against the defensive player. Otherwise no call. Same on the outside. If a player pushes, kicks, hits, or forcefully moves another player with his body in a way that creates an unfair advantage through contact then the foul is called. And a foul should NEVER be called on a player that does not initiate contact. NEVER. Not that hard to do. That is why it is so obvious that the refs are criminally biased. They call it fair only when they want to be fair. They screw a team that they are told to screw. Plain and Simple.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

I am so tired of people saying this shit! What happens when Dirk goes to the basket( and this is about 90 percent of the time) is that Dirk runs full speed into the lane, trips over his own clumsy-ass feet, throws up a shot and hits the ground. Then he gets a bullshit foul-call because the only thing the refs can see is that he fell down.Are we talking about Manu or Dirk here?

[KingsFanWithoutName]

WE WON FUCKING GAME 3, SHUT THE FUCK UP STUPID FUCKING FAGGOT GET THE FUCK OFF THE FORUMS.
You lost game 3. And you called him an idiot?

[ludoscok]

You lost game 3. And you called him an idiot?

My point exactly...

[picnroll]

Harris was getting and ones all night on plays that Parker has been going to the basket on and getting knocked ass over teacup all year with nary a toot.

[scott]

Spurs fans are an embarassment. What a bunch of fucking pussies.

[SA210]

Refs played well. Spurs have to go look at the tape and see how they can defend the refs in Game 4.

It's gonna be interesting.

[SAGambler]

because anyone can see that there was contact other than dirk landing on duncans foot
So if the first thing that happens on that play is Dirk steps on Duncans foot, why isn't that a foul on Dirk?

[MavsFanSinceDayOne]

For those of you who have been complaining about the number of free throws we (Mavs) got... is your memory really that short? Here are the stats of the number of free throws from the 2003 playoffs between the Mavs and Spurs:

Game 2: Spurs 45 Mavs 22
Game 3: Spurs 26 Mavs 6
Game 4: Spurs 31 Mavs 13

Where were your cries for "fair officiating" back then?

[A-Train]

It's the same principle as when Dirklutz manages to trip himself going out of bounds and it's the fault of the defender.

[Tek_XX]

For those of you who have been complaining about the number of free throws we (Mavs) got... is your memory really that short? Here are the stats of the number of free throws from the 2003 playoffs between the Mavs and Spurs:

Game 2: Spurs 45 Mavs 22
Game 3: Spurs 26 Mavs 6
Game 4: Spurs 31 Mavs 13

Where were your cries for "fair officiating" back then?

go ahead and put on game 1

[greensborohill]

What a bunch of fucking cry babies all of you are. . .

[ludoscok]

Game 1: Mavs 50 Spurs 48

[SAGambler]

It's the same principle as when Dirklutz manages to trip himself going out of bounds and it's the fault of the defender.

Yep...That should have been Spurs ball....Instead, Dirk heads to foul line once again....

I guess they have to help him keep his average up, since he can't hit shit from the floor....

[4001 STEREO SPUR]

So when the SPURS win this series, I guess the Mav fans can't
blame it on the refs.

[Tek_XX]

It's the same principle as when Dirklutz manages to trip himself going out of bounds and it's the fault of the defender.

yes interesting phantom call, and yet the real tripping call wasn't called. Yeah we have no right to complain about these refs performance tonight.

[SA210]

For those of you who have been complaining about the number of free throws we (Mavs) got... is your memory really that short? Here are the stats of the number of free throws from the 2003 playoffs between the Mavs and Spurs:

Game 2: Spurs 45 Mavs 22
Game 3: Spurs 26 Mavs 6
Game 4: Spurs 31 Mavs 13

Where were your cries for "fair officiating" back then?
Hey what happened?
Game 1 didn't come up on your post. It might be my computer. Damn!

[ludoscok]

like i already said GAME 1-MAVS 50 SPURS 48
However mavs made 49 of 50 while the spurs made only 31 of 48

[Tek_XX]

Is Dirk a delicate flower that needs to be protected?

[A-Train]

MavFanSinceDayOne? When? April 28, 2006?

[ludoscok]

2003 Conf. Finals
Game 1 - Mavs 50 Spurs 48
Game 2 - Spurs 45 Mavs 22
Game 3 - Spurs 26 Mavs 6
Game 4 - Spurs 31 Mavs 13
Game 5 - Spurs 38 Mavs 23
Game 6 - Spurs 21 Mavs 11

[A-Train]

Is Dirk a delicate flower that needs to be protected?

Apparently so. A delicate white flower in a bastion of whiteness.