bush owns a timber wood company?

[ducks]

atleast kerry says so
BUSH CAME RIGHT OUT AND SAID I Do?
he does not
KERRY IS FULL OF BS :cuss

[NeoConIV]

Need some wood?

:rollin

[SpursWoman]

:nerd

[Yonivore]

Yeah, SW, need some wood? :eyebrows

[foodie2]

From the non-partisan FactCheck.org:
President Bush himself would have qualified as a "small business owner" under the Republican definition, based on his 2001 federal income tax returns. He reported $84 of business income from his part ownership of a timber-growing enterprise. However, 99.99% of Bush's total income came from other sources that year. (Bush also qualified as a "small business owner" in 2000 based on $314 of "business income," but not in 2002 and 2003 when he reported his timber income as "royalties" on a different tax schedule.)

[NeoConIV]

I'm sure Bush will sell Kerry some wood for the coffin of his Presidential aspirations. Bush nailed one more nail in that coffin tonight.

[Yonivore]

From the non-partisan FactCheck.org:
President Bush himself would have qualified as a "small business owner" under the Republican definition, based on his 2001 federal income tax returns. He reported $84 of business income from his part ownership of a timber-growing enterprise. However, 99.99% of Bush's total income came from other sources that year. (Bush also qualified as a "small business owner" in 2000 based on $314 of "business income," but not in 2002 and 2003 when he reported his timber income as "royalties" on a different tax schedule.)
I doubt the President has prepared his taxes in quite awhile. Knowing that tidbit of information is akin to the Vice President remember who he sat next to at a Prayer breakfast a few years ago.

I can hear the President as he came off the stage tonight..."What the hell was that wood crap about?"

[spurster]

I was wondering about the timber wood company thing. Did Kerry deliberately misstate this so that we would focus the GOP's rather suspect definition of a small business owner? This was Bush's best response of the debate and it might come back to bite him.

On that basis, I'm probably a small business owner too because that schedule is the only way to report some types of income. It's hardly my livelihood, though.

[foodie2]

I doubt the President has prepared his taxes in quite awhile. Knowing that tidbit of information is akin to the Vice President remember who he sat next to at a Prayer breakfast a few years ago.

Probably true; however, Ducks' flat assertion


atleast kerry says so
BUSH CAME RIGHT OUT AND SAID I Do?
he does not
KERRY IS FULL OF BS

seems to be somewhat suspect (as well as ungrammatical).

[SpursWoman]

I'm pretty sure he was talking about small businesses...specifically the S-Corps...that make over $200,000 per year, that employ a number of people, and that pay their "business" income taxes at an individual rate. Not some obscure passive income.

Those will be the ones adversely affected by taxing the shit out of the "rich".

It's not going to only effect the movies stars and the country club members.

[Yonivore]

"And I think that because that, well, that was what he said..."
Leave it to Kerry and his supporters to "nuance" a simple answer.

[Marcus Bryant]

As long as most 'normal' small businesses are subject to Kerry's tax increase then Bush's point is still valid.

How about both candidates propose acutal spending reduction? That would be nice.

[Yonivore]

How about both candidates propose acutal spending reduction? That would be nice.
I agree. And, I think that's more likely in a Bush second term than in any term of a Kerry Presidency.

[exstatic]

And, I think that's more likely in a Bush second term than in any term of a Kerry Presidency.
cough*bullshit*cough

Iraq spending is what is dragging us down. A billion a week. It bears repeating. A billion a week.

The last Democratic president managed to balance the bidget, and even grow a budget surplus for a bit, all with his pants down. Now the GOP is bitching because the budget restraints are kicking in for medicare, and they actually have to PAY for something instead of deferring it.

[bigzak25]

Iraq spending is what is dragging us down. A billion a week. It bears repeating. A billion a week.


too bad your boy voted for the war huh?

interesting that Kerry's plan to lesson the burden is to bring in all the other countries that are not with us now, were actually on the take from a murdering dictator, but john will sing a little koombaya, and bamm, (sorry emeril) they are gonna send in their own troops to help out....that's what you can call bullshit.

[exstatic]

too bad your boy voted for the war huh?

1) He's not my boy. I'm just averse to voting for morons or having them run my country. I'm probably voting Libertarian if Badnarek makes the TX ballot. If not, I'll vote for scott.

2) I thought he voted against it? Isn't that what you Bushies are screaming about?

3) Kerry's vote really didn't matter. The House, Senate, and Oval office are controlled by the GOP. If they want war, they get war, and we get debt. Period.

[Hook Dem]

I bought a box of matches. Does that mean I own a timber company too? :lol

[Yonivore]

"The last Democratic president managed to balance the bidget, and even grow a budget surplus for a bit, all with his pants down."
Because he...

1) Ignored the growing security threats around the world.

2) Fudged the economic numbers while a false .com stock market blew out of proportion.

3) Had a Republican Congress equally willing to balance the budget.

4) Lied like a rug during all of it.

Some President.

[exstatic]

I bought a box of matches. Does that mean I own a timber company too?

No, that probably means that you play with matches and wet your pants.

Yoni, a LOT of Republicans were caught up in that dot com boom/bust, too. If Clinton was able to so easily "fudge" economic numbers, why isn't Bush smart enough to do the same thing with an election upon us?

[Yonivore]

No, that probably means that you play with matches and wet your pants.

Yoni, a LOT of Republicans were caught up in that dot com boom/bust, too. If Clinton was able to so easily "fudge" economic numbers, why isn't Bush smart enough to do the same thing with an election upon us?
Because he's not a lying sack of shit like Clinton.

[maxpower]

I can hear the President as he came off the stage tonight..."What the hell was that wood crap about?"

actually this could apply to any Bush appearance.
"What the hell was that [fill in the blank] about?"

[Hook Dem]

No, that probably means that you play with matches and wet your pants.

Yoni, a LOT of Republicans were caught up in that dot com boom/bust, too. If Clinton was able to so easily "fudge" economic numbers, why isn't Bush smart enough to do the same thing with an election upon us?
You know what Ex? You're one egotistical asshole! You take great pleasure in insulting your advesaries rather than trying for substance. You are ate up with your own self. Go take a look in the mirror. You ain't shit!!!!!!!!!!! :flipoff

[exstatic]

Dawg, you left yourself wide open on that one. Chill. :p

[dcole50]

Yikes. This is getting heated. Anyone catch Saturday Night Live last night? They had a funny riff on Bush being oblivious to his ties with this timber company. They also had some clever shots at Kerry. Rest of the show sucked, but I thought the timber jokes were funny.