The real reason why we lost.

[T-Pain]

heres the real reason why we lost...FREE THROWS. Notice we lost by one point and missed 10 FT's at 68% while Dallas shot 78% from the line. Thats what costed us. Not the refs.

[samikeyp]

I agree....the Spurs make just two more...its 2-1 SA

[SA210]

The more we make the more the Mavs would get to the line.

[T-Pain]

AND if only Manu made his second free throw towards the end...

[Mr. Peabody]

The more we make the more the Mavs would get to the line.

Is this the conspiracy theory again?

[SA210]

Is this the conspiracy theory again?
No, just what was happening.

[Mr. Peabody]

No, just what was happening.

So if we would have scored more, the refs would have sent the Mavs to the line more to offset it?

[SA210]

So if we would have scored more, the refs would have sent the Mavs to the line more to offset it?
Seems like you missed the 4th quarter, nevermind.

[SequSpur]

We lost because Pop got used like a rejected recycled bitch on Broadway.

[T-Pain]

Seems like you missed the 4th quarter, nevermind.
oh no, i didnt mean for this thread to be a ref conspiracy/complaint thread...

[CosmicCowboy]

AND if only Manu made his second free throw towards the end...


You soooooooooooooooo suck.

that was the ONLY free throw he missed all night.

[T-Pain]

You soooooooooooooooo suck.

that was the ONLY free throw he missed all night.
yeah, unfortunately that FT miss was costly. One free throw, one miss, one loss.

[Mr. Peabody]

Seems like you missed the 4th quarter, nevermind.

I saw the fourth quarter. We had the ball down one with 8 seconds left and Manu dribbled it off his leg. Then we had the ball down 1 with 2 seconds left and the Spurs threw the ball up for grabs. Did I miss something?

[Sense]

You soooooooooooooooo suck.

that was the ONLY free throw he missed all night.

it would've made a difference wouldn't it though?

[samikeyp]

Seems like you missed the 4th quarter, nevermind.

So then you believe that if the Spurs had made more FT's, the refs would have intentionally sent the Mavs to the line more?

[dieman8686]

I saw the fourth quarter. We had the ball down one with 8 seconds left and Manu dribbled it off his leg. Then we had the ball down 1 with 2 seconds left and the Spurs threw the ball up for grabs. Did I miss something?
You didn't watch the 4th quarter, Manu didn't dribble the ball of his leg, Harris got in between Horry and Manu and deflected it, then from there Manu fucked up :fro .

[SA210]

I saw the fourth quarter. We had the ball down one with 8 seconds left and Manu dribbled it off his leg. Then we had the ball down 1 with 2 seconds left and the Spurs threw the ball up for grabs. Did I miss something?
I usually have your back in the Political forum, but I don't see how you claim to know for sure what happened in the 4th quarter.

Manu didn't just dribble it off his leg. Devin Harris got his hand in there and knocked the ball away. They discussed this in the post-game interviews. So yes you missed something.

And by the way, Timmy called out the refs tonight at the podium as well, seems he also thinks the refs screwed us.

I have it recorded. DVR is awesome.

[Mr. Peabody]

I usually have your back in the Political forum, but I don't see how you claim to know for sure what happened in the 4th quarter.

Manu didn't just dribble it off his leg. Devin Harris got his hand in there and knocked the ball away. They discussed this in the post-game interviews. So yes you missed something.

And by the way, Timmy called out the refs tonight at the podium as well, seems he also thinks the refs screwed us.

I have it recorded. DVR is awesome.

It went off of Manu's thigh, which is what I meant by "dribbled off of his leg."

The fact is the Spurs had two chances to win in the end and didn't execute.

We could have won the game and we didn't, so why make excuses?

[Mr. Peabody]

I usually have your back in the Political forum, but I don't see how you claim to know for sure what happened in the 4th quarter.

So yes you missed something.


Yes, you're right. I didn't watch the game. I just said I did because it wanted to fit in...

[SA210]

You got my point. If you watch the replay you could see.

[T-Pain]

I usually have your back in the Political forum, but I don't see how you claim to know for sure what happened in the 4th quarter.

Manu didn't just dribble it off his leg. Devin Harris got his hand in there and knocked the ball away. They discussed this in the post-game interviews. So yes you missed something.

And by the way, Timmy called out the refs tonight at the podium as well, seems he also thinks the refs screwed us.

I have it recorded. DVR is awesome.
right. I guess he forgot or didnt look on the stat sheet that he missed three free throws and we lost by 1. Make your free throws. We need AggieHoopsFan to tutor these guys to shoot FTs.

[SpursGo25]

FT are key. The mavs shoot FT when the Spurs so much as look at them wrong. The Spurs have to get basically raped to shoot FT. You're right. FT are the reason we lost. And who grants FT?????????

[SpursGo25]

Fuck the NBA for their crooked ass bullshit. This is my last post and I sincerely hope the NBA brass is beaten within an inch of their lives. I hope the NBA crooked refs are beaten within an inch of their lives. The ONLY way to make restitution is for the refs to completely FUCK the mavs OVER AND OVER the rest of this series. That is the only thing that could come close to evening the playing field here.

FUCK you Stern. FUCk you NBA officials. FUCK YOU NBA!! You will no longer get any of my money.

[WalterBenitez]

heres the real reason why we lost...FREE THROWS. Notice we lost by one point and missed 10 FT's at 68% while Dallas shot 78% from the line. Thats what costed us. Not the refs.

Okey I accept your point, but if this game had a decent refs, just say FIBA's refs (they are horrible, they don't pretend to reach 95% of calls like Stern said) ... in that scenario Spurs would had won ...

Despite of the refs, we were close enoug ... but if you add many silly moves ... NAZR, Oberto taking centuries to catch a f..g ball, TP sending a perfect pass to a ref, Brent walikng before catching the ball, not boxing out ... no defense ... oh yeah ... FT counts ...

[SpursStillTippin]

No fuck that im not gonna be one of those "lets not blame the refs, we didnt play good enough to win" types. I usually am that person but this refs shit has to be addressed. I am getting calls from people who know i am a huge spurs fan from people who couldnt name the spurs starting 5 who are saying that the refs cheated the spurs. That is some bullshit! i have never seen such bad refferring in 1 game in my life. David Stern wants the Mavs in the finals and he gets what he wants.

Game 4 prediction: Refs call it one sided for the spurs to void off any suspition which wouldnt solve anything.

[WalterBenitez]

Is this the conspiracy theory again?

Conspiracy theory is a consistent plan, I think REFS just have a criteria whoever were in white uniform, and if that whoever were a Superstar will get the calls ...

Tonight REFS were MVPs ... how many of the Dallas' FT were caused by a real foul?

The one that ejected TD?, the one that caled on Brent don't even touched Dirk?, Manu's avoiding contact?, Oberto looking at Dirk ?... come on ... Star treatment is killing this league.

[SpursStillTippin]

P.S David Stern owes me a new Ironing Board, I smashed mine to pieces after one of the bullshit calls. Oh and i messed my hand up a little bit so i am expecting him to pay for any medical damage. Thank You

[WalterBenitez]

I was ready to register

www.mrdavidsteryourrefssucks.com or www.heydavidyourrefonlyareinventingfoulsmorethan5p ercentofthetime.com

[Gummi]

If we let the Mavs shoot 50 free throws in a game, we're done. I was surprised how close the game got when one of the best free throw shooting team in the league got 50 free throws.

I've never blamed the refs for a loss and I'm not going to here, but there were some questionable calls in the 4th qtr. Got to keep them off the line.

[Louae]

I usually have your back in the Political forum, but I don't see how you claim to know for sure what happened in the 4th quarter.

Manu didn't just dribble it off his leg. Devin Harris got his hand in there and knocked the ball away. They discussed this in the post-game interviews. So yes you missed something.

And by the way, Timmy called out the refs tonight at the podium as well, seems he also thinks the refs screwed us.

I have it recorded. DVR is awesome.

if you'll look at it again. the only reason devin harris was able to get his hand in there was b/c he was using his left hand to hold and tug Gino's right arm. That alone gave him the gap he needed to cleanly poke the ball from the handoff.

It should've been a foul with all the tacky calls going around. But obviously we weren't wearing blue and white.

[MaNuMaNiAc]

yeah, unfortunately that FT miss was costly. One free throw, one miss, one loss.
you're blaming the whole loss on Manu's lone missed ft?? yeah, that's really smart http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif

[LEONARD]

I agree....the Spurs make just two more...its 2-1 SA

and if the Mavs had made just 3 more in game 1...

Difference being the Mavs shot WAY under their avg in game 1 and the Spurs weren't all that far off from theirs in game 3.

Bottom line: 2 close games...1 win for each (at home). You can't really start looking at just 1 play or a couple FT's here or there...

[LEONARD]

if you'll look at it again. the only reason devin harris was able to get his hand in there was b/c he was using his left hand to hold and tug Gino's right arm. That alone gave him the gap he needed to cleanly poke the ball from the handoff.

It should've been a foul with all the tacky calls going around. But obviously we weren't wearing blue and white.

Son of a bitch... :lol

[T-Pain]

you're blaming the whole loss on Manu's lone missed ft?? yeah, that's really smart http://spurstalk.com/forums/images/smilies/smirolleyes.gif
no, im blaming the teams free throw misses. read my very first post.

[T-Pain]

also look at post #21. tim also had somethin to do with it too.

[smeagol]

Ahhh, crying about the refs . . . so fucking lame!

[refhater]

heres the real reason why we lost...FREE THROWS. Notice we lost by one point and missed 10 FT's at 68% while Dallas shot 78% from the line. Thats what costed us. Not the refs.
This is not the reason the Spurs lost. If we had shot 68% from the line, while given the same 50 free throws the Mavs were, we would have won by 10. In an evenly called game, that same 68% would have meant 34 free throws made out of 50 instead we made made 22 of 32. How about just an even fourth quarter. Mavs made 18 of 22 (81%). Spurs made 6 of 8 (75%).