Funny how you only see the game called one way

[SpursGotOwned]

You're all complaining about the foul against Bowen on Dirk, claiming it wasn't a foul.

How about the play at the end of regulation where the refs gave the Spurs 2 extra shots? First, Duncan goes up for a layup and loses the ball. No Mavs player touched it but the refs called it out on the Mavs. The Spurs inbound and shoot a 3 that doesnt hit the rim. Shot clock buzzer sounds. Refs get together and say it hit the rim and give the Spurs the ball back. One a single Spurs possession 2 awful calls were made in favor of the Spurs.

Oh but I don't see any of you bringing that up. Those are undisputed bad calls. Good job, crybabies.

[CubanMustGo]

http://entomology.unl.edu/images/cockroaches/wd_roaches.jpg

[pache100]

And, it's funny to me how you DON'T see it. :lol

[travis2]

How about the bogus calls all fucking evening, bitch? The phantom block call on Duncan who had the picnic blanket out and was eating a sandwich WAITING for the charge.

Go away, bitch. You are not welcome.

[Mr. Peabody]

You're all complaining about the foul against Bowen on Dirk, claiming it wasn't a foul.

How about the play at the end of regulation where the refs gave the Spurs 2 extra shots? First, Duncan goes up for a layup and loses the ball. No Mavs player touched it but the refs called it out on the Mavs. The Spurs inbound and shoot a 3 that doesnt hit the rim. Shot clock buzzer sounds. Refs get together and say it hit the rim and give the Spurs the ball back. One a single Spurs possession 2 awful calls were made in favor of the Spurs.

Oh but I don't see any of you bringing that up. Those are undisputed bad calls. Good job, crybabies.

There were questionable calls throughout the game for both teams. Fans should realize that missed or poor calls are just a part of the game.

[DarrinS]

Two games pretty much decided by bad calls.

1) Dirk steps on Duncan's foot and Tim "fouls" out
2) Phantom fould on Bruce Bowen to tie up the game and send it to OT


I may be a little biased, but Charles Barkley isn't. The first comments he made post-game were about the horrible officiating. Unfortunately, I think the execs at TNT gave him a steaming cup of STFU, because he never said another word about it.


This series is just as easily 3-1 Spurs.

[SpursGotOwned]

How about the bogus calls all fucking evening, bitch? The phantom block call on Duncan who had the picnic blanket out and was eating a sandwich WAITING for the charge.

Go away, bitch. You are not welcome.

You go away. Go fishing. I'm going to the finals.

[SpursGotOwned]

Two games pretty much decided by bad calls.

1) Dirk steps on Duncan's foot and Tim "fouls" out
2) Phantom fould on Bruce Bowen to tie up the game and send it to OT


I may be a little biased, but Charles Barkley isn't. The first comments he made post-game were about the horrible officiating. Unfortunately, I think the execs at TNT gave him a steaming cup of STFU, because he never said another word about it.


This series is just as easily 3-1 Spurs.

Hahahaha Barkley isnt biased? Barkley said "Dallas cant beat the Spurs if the Spurs are healthy" all year long. Now the Mavs are crushing the Spurs. He has to justify his incorrect statement now.

Barkley is a Spurs bandwagoneer. Everyone knows he hates the Mavs. He was sad when the Spurs lost. Its comical that youre using him as a valid non-biased expert now. hahahh.

[Spurminator]

Bad calls are a part of the game, but they should be less frequent in the Playoffs because there should be less calls. The refs are trying to call everything out there, and that fucks up the game more than anything. It's not about bias.

[dtk]

I may be a little biased, but Charles Barkley isn't.
:lol :drunk

[pache100]

Bad calls are a part of the game, but they should be less frequent in the Playoffs because there should be less calls. The refs are trying to call everything out there, and that fucks up the game more than anything. It's not about bias.

I don't have a problem with bad calls that are mistakes. What I have a problem with is when it is so blatantly intentional that they even quit trying to fake it.

[genghisrex]

The Spurs inbound and shoot a 3 that doesnt hit the rim. Shot clock buzzer sounds. Refs get together and say it hit the rim and give the Spurs the ball back.
That was a BAD call, but it was immediately erased by a bogus make-up call: an offensive foul on Duncan. You're right, that sequence helped the Spurs out big time. Thanks, refs.

[SpursWoman]

The Spurs inbound and shoot a 3 that doesnt hit the rim. Shot clock buzzer sounds. Refs get together and say it hit the rim and give the Spurs the ball back. One a single Spurs possession 2 awful calls were made in favor of the Spurs.


I have to go back and look, but wasn't .00052822 seconds later a make-up call made by a bogus foul on Parker? If that's the case, then the Mavs basically got 2 free throws for a 24 second violation.


That's fair and consistent. :tu

[picnroll]

Check your own coaches' post-game interview statement.

Looks like SpursGotOwned is getting owned.

[2centsworth]

You're all complaining about the foul against Bowen on Dirk, claiming it wasn't a foul.

How about the play at the end of regulation where the refs gave the Spurs 2 extra shots? First, Duncan goes up for a layup and loses the ball. No Mavs player touched it but the refs called it out on the Mavs. The Spurs inbound and shoot a 3 that doesnt hit the rim. Shot clock buzzer sounds. Refs get together and say it hit the rim and give the Spurs the ball back. One a single Spurs possession 2 awful calls were made in favor of the Spurs.

Oh but I don't see any of you bringing that up. Those are undisputed bad calls. Good job, crybabies.
just disregard the immediate makeup call to get your team the ball back.

[DarrinS]

Barkley is a Spurs bandwagoneer. Everyone knows he hates the Mavs. He was sad when the Spurs lost. Its comical that youre using him as a valid non-biased expert now. hahahh.

He gave a lot of credit to the Mavs after the game. I also think the Mavs played a helluva game.

I just say, let the players decide the outcome of a game. It's depressing to watch such a good game, only to have some 80 yr old ref, give Dirk a "gift" at the end.

The Mavs won fair and square in OT, but the game should never have gone to OT.

[pache100]

Hahahaha Barkley isnt biased? Barkley said "Dallas cant beat the Spurs if the Spurs are healthy" all year long. Now the Mavs are crushing the Spurs. He has to justify his incorrect statement now.

Barkley is a Spurs bandwagoneer. Everyone knows he hates the Mavs. He was sad when the Spurs lost. Its comical that youre using him as a valid non-biased expert now. hahahh.

Why do you say you are a Spurs fan in your profile?

[CubanMustGo]

12-4 team foul differential in the fourth, plus the two offensive "fouls" on Tim and the delay of game tech after yet another bullshit call.
19-4 FT disparity from midway in the third until Dirk hit the two with eight secs left.
Five travels called on SA. FIVE!

Talk about one or two bad calls against Dallas all you want, but you can't come close to the magnitude of the raping shown here.

[SpursWoman]

He gave a lot of credit to the Mavs after the game. I also think the Mavs played a helluva game.


Barkley is a Spurs homer and has never shown that much love for the Mavs, ever. From the sound of it over the last few seasons, Mav fans don't like Barkley like Spurs fans don't like Stephen A. Smith.

:fro

[LEONARD]

You're all complaining about the foul against Bowen on Dirk, claiming it wasn't a foul.

How about the play at the end of regulation where the refs gave the Spurs 2 extra shots? First, Duncan goes up for a layup and loses the ball. No Mavs player touched it but the refs called it out on the Mavs. The Spurs inbound and shoot a 3 that doesnt hit the rim. Shot clock buzzer sounds. Refs get together and say it hit the rim and give the Spurs the ball back. One a single Spurs possession 2 awful calls were made in favor of the Spurs.

Oh but I don't see any of you bringing that up. Those are undisputed bad calls. Good job, crybabies.

EXACTLY!!

[travis2]

You go away. Go fishing. I'm going to the finals.

You're the interloper here, fucker. Go away.

[NoMoneyDown]

You go away. Go fishing. I'm going to the finals.

Wow, talk about overconfidence. Your team still needs to get past the Spurs and THEN the Phx/LAC winner. THEN you can start talking finals.

[travis2]

EXACTLY!!

STFU homer bitch.

If you want a Maverick love fest, go back to your own boards.

[picnroll]

Leoonard did you read any of the rest of the thread you cretin?

[Mr. Peabody]

Five travels called on SA. FIVE![/list]



Parker and Bowen did travel though.....

[Shank]

Little known sports fact:

The San Antonio Spurs have NEVER lost a game. EVER.

[genghisrex]

FACT: The Mavs have never won a championship.

[pache100]

Little known sports fact:

The San Antonio Spurs have NEVER lost a game. EVER.

http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j77/pache100/butt.gif

[fyatuk]

You're all complaining about the foul against Bowen on Dirk, claiming it wasn't a foul.

How about the play at the end of regulation where the refs gave the Spurs 2 extra shots? First, Duncan goes up for a layup and loses the ball. No Mavs player touched it but the refs called it out on the Mavs. The Spurs inbound and shoot a 3 that doesnt hit the rim. Shot clock buzzer sounds. Refs get together and say it hit the rim and give the Spurs the ball back. One a single Spurs possession 2 awful calls were made in favor of the Spurs.

Oh but I don't see any of you bringing that up. Those are undisputed bad calls. Good job, crybabies.

Looked like the ball went out off of Damp's head on that one, and I could have sworn I heard a double hit on the shot (rim + backboard), but I wouldn't have had a problem with those calls going the other way. Either way, it was immediately made up with a BS moving pick call on Duncan (which was followed a bit later by Dampier pushing a Spur about 5 feet out of the play on a moving pick that wasn't called).

But it isn't just the Spurs getting screwed up calls. I normally watch 9 out of every 10 playoff games no matter whos playing. After the first couple games in in the first round I quit and just watched the Spurs. The officiating SUCKS in every game. But it does seem more apparent in this Spurs/Mavs series.

[2centsworth]

Little known sports fact:

The San Antonio Spurs have NEVER lost a game. EVER. hell yeah they have. The lakers used to kick their butts all the time, fair and square. Mavs have obviously intimidated the refs.

[LEONARD]

STFU homer bitch.

If you want a Maverick love fest, go back to your own boards.

LMAO!! Classic reply...this is too much...what a great day...

[DarrinS]

Note to Mavs fan:


Mavs have 0 NBA Championships

After this year, the Mavs will have 0 NBA Championships


Have a nice Day.

[2centsworth]

LMAO!! Classic reply...this is too much...what a great day...
sorta bitter sweet from what I've been told. Mavs fans are happy they won, but they don't feel respected because they know the refs had way too big a hand in the victory.

[LEONARD]

Looked like the ball went out off of Damp's head on that one, and I could have sworn I heard a double hit on the shot (rim + backboard), but I wouldn't have had a problem with those calls going the other way. Either way, it was immediately made up with a BS moving pick call on Duncan (which was followed a bit later by Dampier pushing a Spur about 5 feet out of the play on a moving pick that wasn't called).

But it isn't just the Spurs getting screwed up calls. I normally watch 9 out of every 10 playoff games no matter whos playing. After the first couple games in in the first round I quit and just watched the Spurs. The officiating SUCKS in every game. But it does seem more apparent in this Spurs/Mavs series.

Off Damp's head?? Hahaha...watch the replay again, holmes...

You heard a double hit?? hahaha...nevermind that the replay didn't show any re-direction of the ball off the backboard. Super ears!

Seriously...when your team loses, you only remember the calls that didn't go your way...

[LEONARD]

Note to Mavs fan:


Mavs have 0 NBA Championships

After this year, the Mavs will have 0 NBA Championships


Have a nice Day.

Don't care as long as the Mavs get over the "Spurs hump"...

[DarrinS]

hell yeah they have. The lakers used to kick their butts all the time, fair and square. Mavs have obviously intimidated the refs.


I don't know if they've "intimidated" the refs. The Mavs aren't a very intimidating group. Dampier might look intimidating, but Tim makes him look like the giant puss that he is.

If Mavs fans really feel good about these last two "wins", so be it. If they get to the finals, I still say they would get royally bitch slapped by the Pistons.

Sincerely,

Ben Wallace :fro

[LEONARD]

sorta bitter sweet from what I've been told. Mavs fans are happy they won, but they don't feel respected because they know the refs had way too big a hand in the victory.

LMAO...I assure you that's NOT the case...

[2centsworth]

Don't care as long as the Mavs get over the "Spurs hump"...
they are far from getting over that hump. game 6 will be a pressure cooker for the mavs.

[2centsworth]

LMAO...I assure you that's NOT the case...
really, then why the need for approval from a spurs fan site?

[LEONARD]

really, then why the need for approval from a spurs fan site?

I'm been here since March...I didn't come here to "get approval" for these games...what are you talking about???

[LEONARD]

they are far from getting over that hump. game 6 will be a pressure cooker for the mavs.

I didn't say it was over...I was speaking from the same perspective as the guy I was responding to (assuming the Mavs beat the Spurs)...

[pache100]

I'm been here since March...I didn't come here to "get approval" for these games...what are you talking about???

Wow! Two frickin' months! That's so dang impressive!

[Horry For 3!]

Hahahaha Barkley isnt biased? Barkley said "Dallas cant beat the Spurs if the Spurs are healthy" all year long. Now the Mavs are crushing the Spurs. He has to justify his incorrect statement now.

Barkley is a Spurs bandwagoneer. Everyone knows he hates the Mavs. He was sad when the Spurs lost. Its comical that youre using him as a valid non-biased expert now. hahahh.
Sure they are :lmao

[LEONARD]

Wow! Two frickin' months! That's so dang impressive!

Did I say I've been here a long time and deserved any kind of respect? Nope

I was just responding to his statement that I came here to "get approval" since I know the refs have given this to the Mavs... :rolleyes

[Shank]

Ah yes...here come the old standards.

Let's talk about how many rings the Spurs have. That and a dime won't win you this series. The past has nothing to do with this current series.

I saw the Spurs fans in the building last night sheepishly slink out with replies of how many rings their favorite team has. It's the loser's lament. Fucking hilarious. Feel free to keep bringing it up, though. Anything to keep your head up.

[pache100]

Did I say I've been here a long time and deserved any kind of respect? Nope

I was just responding to his statement that I came here to "get approval" since I know the refs have given this to the Mavs... :rolleyes

Exactly.

[LEONARD]

Ah yes...here come the old standards.

Let's talk about how many rings the Spurs have. That and a dime won't win you this series. The past has nothing to do with this current series.

I saw the Spurs fans in the building last night sheepishly slink out with replies of how many rings their favorite team has. It's the loser's lament. Fucking hilarious. Feel free to keep bringing it up, though. Anything to keep your head up.

Don't forget about the "go back to your own forum" replies too... :lol

[fyatuk]

Off Damp's head?? Hahaha...watch the replay again, holmes...

You heard a double hit?? hahaha...nevermind that the replay didn't show any re-direction of the ball off the backboard. Super ears!

Seriously...when your team loses, you only remember the calls that didn't go your way...

Hey, that's what I saw/heard when I watched it. Like I said, wouldn't have upset me if they went the other way. I don't get obsessive and go watch replays over and over, so no thanks on that one. And the one slow motion replay they showed of the shot from overhead certainly looked like a minute change of direction.

And no I don't remember only those calls. Parker got away with grabbing some Dirk jersey on a play where Dirk missed the shot and the Spurs got the ball. Ginobili got away with at least 3 travels. There were several times a Spur got away with over the back.

Like I said. The officiating throughout ALL the playoff games has been horrible.

On a side note, do those AAC rims have mics in them or is the crowd just too dang quiet? They seem so freaking loud compared to everywhere else.

[Mr. Peabody]

Note to Mavs fan:

Mavs have 0 NBA Championships

After this year, the Mavs will have 0 NBA Championships

Have a nice Day.

So do we Spurs fans sit and reminisce about our championships while the Mavs move on in the playoffs? :rolleyes

[nkdlunch]

You're all complaining about the foul against Bowen on Dirk, claiming it wasn't a foul.

How about the play at the end of regulation where the refs gave the Spurs 2 extra shots? First, Duncan goes up for a layup and loses the ball. No Mavs player touched it but the refs called it out on the Mavs. The Spurs inbound and shoot a 3 that doesnt hit the rim. Shot clock buzzer sounds. Refs get together and say it hit the rim and give the Spurs the ball back. One a single Spurs possession 2 awful calls were made in favor of the Spurs.

Oh but I don't see any of you bringing that up. Those are undisputed bad calls. Good job, crybabies.


I think Spur fans have a right to complain officiating after game 3 and 4. If you notice, by the end of both games, when Spurs seem to have control, a few whistles especially involving Tim Duncan seem to be way out of place. and end up changing the fate of the game.

This is crunch time, and little bumps by Timmy being called??????????? Would Lebron, Dirk, Kobe be called for those???? hell no. Fact is the refs have no respect whatsoever for our 3-time champion and MVP. Yes Spur fans have a right to complain, they'd be spineless if they didn't.

How about the technical??? How much was Dirk bitching and did he get a tech? nope. hell yeah we got right to complain. We should be up 3-1.

[pache100]

Don't forget about the "go back to your own forum" replies too... :lol


Tell you what...make a deal with you...if you win this series, you will lose the next one. How 'bout we come over and spam your boards for awhile? I'm already starting a collection of shit to post.

[Shank]

A lot of the rims have been mic'ed for a couple seasons now. They run the audio into the tv/radio broadcast and inside of the arena.

[pache100]

A lot of the rims have been mic'ed for a couple seasons now. They run the audio into the tv/radio broadcast and inside of the arena.

And?

[riad19]

loser will always whine abt this and that. its the team that will play though everything that deserves to win. and i gotta say, ginobili deserves an oscar for his acting performance on the foul with Josh Howard. If u watch the replay u clearly see manu slow down and get tangled with josh on purpose since he knows dallas has no more fouls to give. honestly, i have never seen the spurs whine so much in my life...... they are turning out to be worse than the master, Cuban himself :lol

[fyatuk]

A lot of the rims have been mic'ed for a couple seasons now. They run the audio into the tv/radio broadcast and inside of the arena.

Thanks, it's been bugging the hell out of me. Sounds so stupid.

[NoMoneyDown]

Don't care as long as the Mavs get over the "Spurs hump"...

LOL! So you basically admit the Spurs have :owned the Mavericks. :lol

[cheguevara]

I think Spur fans have a right to complain officiating after game 3 and 4. If you notice, by the end of both games, when Spurs seem to have control, a few whistles especially involving Tim Duncan seem to be way out of place. and end up changing the fate of the game.

This is crunch time, and little bumps by Timmy being called??????????? Would Lebron, Dirk, Kobe be called for those???? hell no. Fact is the refs have no respect whatsoever for our 3-time champion and MVP. Yes Spur fans have a right to complain, they'd be spineless if they didn't.

How about the technical??? How much was Dirk bitching and did he get a tech? nope. hell yeah we got right to complain. We should be up 3-1.


no respect for Timmy whatsoever. that is true.

[CubanMustGo]

loser will always whine abt this and that. l

http://entomology.unl.edu/images/cockroaches/wd_roaches.jpg

[2centsworth]

close the spurs out in game 5 and then I'll be impressed. otherwise, spurs will win in 7.

[pache100]

Thanks, it's been bugging the hell out of me. Sounds so stupid.

I think the Spurs are about the only ones in the NBA that do not have mic-ed rims; I have noticed this season that more teams than ever have done that.

[fyatuk]

loser will always whine abt this and that. its the team that will play though everything that deserves to win. and i gotta say, ginobili deserves an oscar for his acting performance on the foul with Josh Howard. If u watch the replay u clearly see manu slow down and get tangled with josh on purpose since he knows dallas has no more fouls to give. honestly, i have never seen the spurs whine so much in my life...... they are turning out to be worse than the master, Cuban himself :lol

You mean like last night when the Mavs stopped and watched Manu coming from behind before jumping sideways into him?

That's part of the game. Gotta pay attention.

[LEONARD]

Hey, that's what I saw/heard when I watched it. Like I said, wouldn't have upset me if they went the other way. I don't get obsessive and go watch replays over and over, so no thanks on that one. And the one slow motion replay they showed of the shot from overhead certainly looked like a minute change of direction.

And no I don't remember only those calls. Parker got away with grabbing some Dirk jersey on a play where Dirk missed the shot and the Spurs got the ball. Ginobili got away with at least 3 travels. There were several times a Spur got away with over the back.

Like I said. The officiating throughout ALL the playoff games has been horrible.

On a side note, do those AAC rims have mics in them or is the crowd just too dang quiet? They seem so freaking loud compared to everywhere else.

I agree completely...overall the officiating has bogged down the games...

Yes...they have mic's.


Tell you what...make a deal with you...if you win this series, you will lose the next one. How 'bout we come over and spam your boards for awhile? I'm already starting a collection of shit to post.

I don't have a forum...

[LEONARD]

You mean like last night when the Mavs stopped and watched Manu coming from behind before jumping sideways into him?

That's part of the game. Gotta pay attention.

Vet move by Terry that gets called his way 9/10 times...sorry...

[NoMoneyDown]

Vet move by Terry that gets called his way 9/10 times...sorry...

Forward? Yes. Sideways? No.

[pache100]

I don't have a forum...

Ok. You'll disappear from this one, too, when you get your heart handed to you while it's still beating by the Clippers or the Pistons (if the Spurs don't do it). Just like CMG's roaches when someone turns on the light... :lol

[fyatuk]

Vet move by Terry that gets called his way 9/10 times...sorry...

Oh no doubt. It's exactly what Manu did the other night to get free throws. That's what I was commenting on. It's a solid move, and the players need to pay attention or their going to get caught like that and get whistled.

[LEONARD]

Ok. You'll disappear from this one, too, when you get your heart handed to you while it's still beating by the Clippers or the Pistons (if the Spurs don't do it). Just like CMG's roaches when someone turns on the light... :lol

I'll disappear in the off-season because I'll watching the Rangers and keeping up with the Cowboys camp... :lol


Oh no doubt. It's exactly what Manu did the other night to get free throws. That's what I was commenting on. It's a solid move, and the players need to pay attention or their going to get caught like that and get whistled.

THANK YOU!

[fyatuk]

I'll disappear in the off-season because I'll watching the Rangers and keeping up with the Cowboys camp... :lol


Hey, that's my summer plans too!

[HavefunFishing]

Why do you say you are a Spurs fan in your profile?

The mods here will edit your posts and your bio to make you look like a Spurs fan. This one of the lamest messageboards on the internet. Thats why you get so many trolls. You deserve it.

[HavefunFishing]

12-4 team foul differential in the fourth, plus the two offensive "fouls" on Tim and the delay of game tech after yet another bullshit call.
19-4 FT disparity from midway in the third until Dirk hit the two with eight secs left.
Five travels called on SA. FIVE!

Talk about one or two bad calls against Dallas all you want, but you can't come close to the magnitude of the raping shown here.

How many times did a Spurs player protest to those travelling violations? NONE. Only because Bowen or Duncan wasnt called for them. They whine after every call.

So what youre saying is...the Spurs shouldnt get penalties called against them even if theyre legit? Good job loser.

[mavs_own_spurs]

As a Mav's fan for the past 5 years (years in which the Spurs owned the Mavericks) I have been on the other side of this fence. I am actually pissed off that the refs have stolen the Mav's victory spotlight. The Spurs have enjoyed getting the questionable calls for years and now the tables have turned and you spurs fans can now feel the pain.

2 observations that will never be mentioned here:

1. Bruce Bowen could be called for 15 fouls a game. He plays tough D, but gets the benefit of the doubt on a lot of close calls (and some obvious calls) because he is labled "defensive specialist".
2. Every Spurs fan on this board is simply following their leader Tim Duncan. Whining over every call. He is an amazing player, but even more amazing is the fact that he NEVER fouls anybody....according to him.

Sit back, relax and enjoy the rest of your summer. The karma has come back to bite you and I am glad it is the Mavs that get the benefit.

***Before you write the obligatory "Go away, shut the f*ck up and get off our forum" BS, just remember how many of you or your friends blasted mavs fans on their own boards when you were kicking our asses the last 3 years***

[CubanMustGo]

blah blah blah

blah blah blah

http://pested.unl.edu/gerroa.jpg

[LEONARD]

How can a Spurs fan whine about the traveling calls?? If anything, those were the most clear-cut calls on them all night!! I know guys travel a lot, but when you travel like Parker did, you HAVE to call it...

[efrem1]

As a student of history, Dallas teams seem to get calls at key times :)

"Staubach's desperation toss and Pearson's contortionist catch — the ball wound up lodged snugly between his right elbow and right hip — shocked and angered the Vikings. They argued vehemently that Pearson had been guilty of offensive pass interference because, they said, he pushed Nate Wright, the defender, out of the way so he could catch the ball. But they lost the argument . . .

Tarkenton and the offense came back on the field after the kickoff. Tarkenton was sacked twice. Each time, the quarterback rose and raced after an official, to protest the lack of an offensive interference call against Pearson. This further incensed the spectators and a barrage of bottles, cans, Thermos jugs and other items came flying from the right-field bleachers."

From the Snopes article: http://www.snopes.com/sports/football/tarkenton.asp

[pache100]

The mods here will edit your posts and your bio to make you look like a Spurs fan. This one of the lamest messageboards on the internet. Thats why you get so many trolls. You deserve it.

That's not true. We have many honorable and highly respected members here who are fans of other teams. They belong to one of the classiest message boards on the internet (THE classiest basketball message board I have seen...and I've seen hundreds). The "mods" do not edit posts unless you break the rules. It's lame and cowardly to claim to be something you're not and would never deserve to be, though. If you want respect, you have to give a little. Come into someone else's forum with guns blazing and you can bet we'll shoot back.

[mFFL03]

Funny how you only see the game called one way.....

I don't think we've brought up how 2 OF OUR CENTERS FOULED OUT LAST NIGHT.....TWO. That is one position, not ONE PERSON.

and sit down ginobli....just go to the bench and sit down.

oh yea, and how many championships will the Spurs win this year?

thats right.....zero

[leemajors]

It's the loser's lament. Fucking hilarious.

three rings, losers. losing this series doesn't make the spurs perennial losers like the mavs have been. we have what you are playing for three times over. if you win this series good luck the rest of the way, you will need it. no matter how many times you try, insulting the fact that the spurs have three rings already will never make any sense outside of your own small mind.

[2centsworth]

Funny how you only see the game called one way.....

I don't think we've brought up how 2 OF OUR CENTERS FOULED OUT LAST NIGHT.....TWO. That is one position, not ONE PERSON.

and sit down ginobli....just go to the bench and sit down.

oh yea, and how many championships will the Spurs win this year?

thats right.....zero

premature ejaculation, typical dallas fan. even a stinky portland team took you to 7 after being down 3-0. Spurs are gonna walk your asses down, GUARANTEED!

[leemajors]

Funny how you only see the game called one way.....

I don't think we've brought up how 2 OF OUR CENTERS FOULED OUT LAST NIGHT.....TWO. That is one position, not ONE PERSON.

and sit down ginobli....just go to the bench and sit down.

oh yea, and how many championships will the Spurs win this year?

thats right.....zero

fouling out has never been an uncommon occurrence for dampier or diop.

[SpursWoman]

I don't have a forum...


Yeah, I've noticed that the Mav fan forums don't do very well.


What's the matter? You guys recognize that ya'll are so damned rude and obnoxious that you can't even stand talking to yourselves?

:spin :lol

[efrem1]

Funny how you only see the game called one way.....

I don't think we've brought up how 2 OF OUR CENTERS FOULED OUT LAST NIGHT.....TWO. That is one position, not ONE PERSON.

and sit down ginobli....just go to the bench and sit down.

oh yea, and how many championships will the Spurs win this year?

thats right.....zero

As I stated before, you Dallas fans have no right to question our "whining" after the stunt Cuban pulled on his blog last week. Go to your homes in Arlington, Dallas, McKinney and Plano and watch the 72 Olympic basketball final and have a nice day.

[pache100]

Yeah, I've noticed that the Mav fan forums don't do very well.


What's the matter? You guys recognize that ya'll are so damned rude and obnoxious that you can't even stand talking to yourselves?

:spin :lol

:rollin :lmao

[SpursWoman]

:rollin :lmao


Eh, I was joking.



Kinda. :lol

[Trainwreck2100]

Eh, I was joking.



Kinda. :lol

Bullshit, there are like five alright Mavs fans, the rest are just assholes.

[mFFL03]

fouling out has never been an uncommon occurrence for dampier or diop.


Thanks spurs fan! I had no idea how my team played all season long, thanks again for reminding me!

[pache100]

Bullshit, there are like five alright Mavs fans, the rest are just assholes.

Is it that many? I thought it was fewer. Maybe you're right.

[mavs_own_spurs]

Let me take a serious poll here. How many of you Spurs fan jump out here on your message boards and post how lucky you are if the calls go the other way? I think less than 5% of you would, because you KNOW for a fact that a game is not won or lost on 1 or 2 calls. Mavs fans had to learn that the hard way over the last 3 years, it's about time you Spurs pukes learn that too.

[LEONARD]

Yeah, I've noticed that the Mav fan forums don't do very well.


What's the matter? You guys recognize that ya'll are so damned rude and obnoxious that you can't even stand talking to yourselves?

:spin :lol

I have no interest in talking hoops with Mavs fans on a forum...it's more fun here seeing how crazy the people are about their Spurs... :fro

[Trainwreck2100]

Is it that many? I thought it was fewer. Maybe you're right.

There's just a high volume of assholes, it's like a 200-1 good fan bad fan ratio.

[leemajors]

Thanks spurs fan! I had no idea how my team played all season long, thanks again for reminding me!

if you are surprised at them fouling out, you haven't been paying attention. diop is young and inexperienced, and dampier has been in foul trouble his whole career.

[Shank]

premature ejaculation, typical dallas fan. even a stinky portland team took you to 7 after being down 3-0. Spurs are gonna walk your asses down, GUARANTEED!

How certain are you of this "guarantee"? How about a 30-day ban if you don't come through? I'll put up a 60-day for myself.

[pache100]

I have no interest in talking hoops with Mavs fans on a forum...it's more fun here seeing how crazy the people are about their Spurs... :fro

And that's a bad thing?

[Trainwreck2100]

How certain are you of this "guarantee"? How about a 30-day ban if you don't come through? I'll put up a 60-day for myself.

Like you'll be here when the series is over.

[leemajors]

How certain are you of this "guarantee"? How about a 30-day ban if you don't come through? I'll put up a 60-day for myself.

how classy, knocking a fan for believing in his team.

[mFFL03]

if you are surprised at them fouling out, you haven't been paying attention. diop is young and inexperienced, and dampier has been in foul trouble his whole career.


Yeaaa, I'm gonna need the TPS stats on this....gut feeling's are unacceptable.

[mFFL03]

As I stated before, you Dallas fans have no right to question our "whining" after the stunt Cuban pulled on his blog last week. Go to your homes in Arlington, Dallas, McKinney and Plano and watch the 72 Olympic basketball final and have a nice day.


Cuban DOESN'T PLAY BASKETBALL FOR OUR TEAM.

Get this through your thick beaner skulls.

How often do you see our players whine after every call? probably 2 or 3 times a game.

Ginobli? after every single call

Bowen? after every single call

Duncan? after every single call (but brushed it off last night, this is what we call sportsmanship)

parker? after every other call

heres some kleenex for the long road home

[spur219]

Ya I saw that. But the refs quickly made a make-up call for a so called moving screen on Duncan. So that cancels out.

[Trainwreck2100]

Cuban DOESN'T PLAY BASKETBALL FOR OUR TEAM.

Get this through your thick beaner skulls.

How often do you see our players whine after every call? probably 2 or 3 times a game.

Ginobli? after every single call

Bowen? after every single call

Duncan? after every single call (but brushed it off last night, this is what we call sportsmanship)

parker? after every other call

heres some kleenex for the long road home


And yet, the national media only focuses on it, when a player/coach calls it out in a press conference.

[fyatuk]

Ginobli? after every single call
Bowen? after every single call
Duncan? after every single call (but brushed it off last night, this is what we call sportsmanship)
parker? after every other call


While that is an exaggeration, every Spur fan should just admit the truth. The Spurs players do fuss over the officials more than any other team. That dumbfounded look on Duncan's face, Ginobili spinning around with his arms outstretched, etc. We all know the routines, and we do see each of them several times a game.

[Shank]

how classy, knocking a fan for believing in his team.

Ah yes, the Internet messageboard standard of having to have "class" to be acceptable. So generic...

He put up a guarantee. An idea that the Spurs WILL WIN this series. I'm just calling him out on it. Let's just say I'm testing his faith. If he really believed in his team, he'd take it without any qualms.

And I'll be around here long after the series is over. You don't have to worry about that.

[picnroll]

And I'll be around here long after the series is over. You don't have to worry about that.
As if the prospects of losing to Dallas isn't bad enough.

[leemajors]

Ah yes, the Internet messageboard standard of having to have "class" to be acceptable. So generic...

He put up a guarantee. An idea that the Spurs WILL WIN this series. I'm just calling him out on it. Let's just say I'm testing his faith. If he really believed in his team, he'd take it without any qualms.

And I'll be around here long after the series is over. You don't have to worry about that.

way to beg the question. i didn't say anything about having to have "class" to be acceptable, i was merely noting your lack of class. you don't see me on this board dogging mavsfan1000 about how he was claiming diop and dampier could shut down duncan totally, do you? there is no need to. if the mavs win the series, he is wrong. you're merely proving yourself to be a childish asshole trying to show him up by making a statement of faith about his team. when someone calls you out on it, you try to be condescending and sound even more foolish. kudos.

[mFFL03]

While that is an exaggeration, every Spur fan should just admit the truth. The Spurs players do fuss over the officials more than any other team. That dumbfounded look on Duncan's face, Ginobili spinning around with his arms outstretched, etc. We all know the routines, and we do see each of them several times a game.


Thank you for acknowledging! I actually believe that this is hurting the spurs more than helping. The refs in the end will blow the whistle at the THOUSANDS of possible fouls per game to the players they come to respect more.

[SpursWoman]

While that is an exaggeration, every Spur fan should just admit the truth. The Spurs players do fuss over the officials more than any other team. That dumbfounded look on Duncan's face, Ginobili spinning around with his arms outstretched, etc. We all know the routines, and we do see each of them several times a game.


THEY ALL DO IT! :lmao

No player on any of the 30 teams in the NBA has ever committed a foul!

Good God. There is NO WAY you can quantify any team doing it more than another. I know Timmy does it ... but if you'll also notice that a lot of them also go talk to the ref and have them explain what they did wrong....he's even talked about that...and they've even mic'd it before. So it's not all whining.

Did you see the expressions on all the MAVS faces every time they committed a foul? They are no different. :lol :lol

[mFFL03]

THEY ALL DO IT! :lmao

No player on any of the 30 teams in the NBA has ever committed a foul!

Good God. There is NO WAY you can quantify any team doing it more than another. I know Timmy does it ... but if you'll also notice that a lot of them also go talk to the ref and have them explain what they did wrong....he's even talked about that...and they've even mic'd it before. So it's not all whining.

Did you see the expressions on all the MAVS faces every time they committed a foul? They are no different. :lol :lol

yea....we have expressions 100% of the time.....that doesn't give us the right to go up to any ref and have a law & order session.

[SpursWoman]

yea....we have expressions 100% of the time.....that doesn't give us the right to go up to any ref and have a law & order session.


Huh? Players go to the refs all of the time when they disagree. ALL of them do it. :lol

[picnroll]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/jul1oxr/0522mavs.jpg

[GermationSensation]

Two games pretty much decided by bad calls.

1) Dirk steps on Duncan's foot and Tim "fouls" out
2) Phantom fould on Bruce Bowen to tie up the game and send it to OT


I may be a little biased, but Charles Barkley isn't.

:lol :lol :lol :lol

Barkley has hated the Mavericks ever since Cuban took over and took them out of the NBA gutter. Try watching a Mavs game on TNT sometime.

[leemajors]

barkley does not hate the mavs. he was critical of them, but he is just as critical of phoenix for example. he thought the mavs didn't have what it takes to get past the spurs. they obviously do now, and he doesn't have a problem admitting it. barkley is honest to a fault, and will admit when he is wrong. did you not see the postgame with dirk last week? the whole tnt crew was congratulating the mavs on their success.

[DarrinS]

:lol :lol :lol :lol

Barkley has hated the Mavericks ever since Cuban took over and took them out of the NBA gutter. Try watching a Mavs game on TNT sometime.


I know that Barkley and Kenny Smith hate Mark Cuban, but not necessarily the Mavs.


Barkley and Kenny have good reason to hate Cuban. He basically called them idiots, because, of course, Cuban knows more about basketball than anyone. :smokin

This website explains why they hate Cuban.

http://www.nba.com/news/tnt_051104.html

Watch the video on that page. It's hilarious.

[Trainwreck2100]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/jul1oxr/0522mavs.jpg

We don't need facts here sir, this is an internet message board

[LEONARD]

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/jul1oxr/0522mavs.jpg

You can find a picture of ANY player whining...

The Spurs are just a notch above everybody else...

[pache100]

You can find a picture of ANY player whining...

That's the point!


The Spurs are just a notch above everybody else...

No, they are not; I'd say whining on the court is pretty even across the board (with a couple individuals I can think of being worse than all others put together, neither of whom is a Spur or Mav). The difference is the Spurs leave it on the court; there are teams (and dallas is one of them, whether you admit it or not, whether you like it or not, it has been documented) that are head and shoulders above the average with their whining to the media. And the sad thing is (witness the past three games), IT WORKS. That is what sucks. When it works for you (the Mavs :flypig ) like that, crying like a baby girl :baby to the media...there's no reason to do much of it on the court.

[LEONARD]

No, they are not; I'd say whining on the court is pretty even across the board (with a couple individuals I can think of being worse than all others put together, neither of whom is a Spur or Mav). The difference is the Spurs leave it on the court; there are teams (and dallas is one of them, whether you admit it or not, whether you like it or not, it has been documented) that are head and shoulders above the average with their whining to the media. And the sad thing is (witness the past three games), IT WORKS. That is what sucks. When it works for you (the Mavs :flypig ) like that, crying like a baby girl :baby to the media...there's no reason to do much of it on the court.

Throw out Cuban and how much whining to the media do the Mavs do?? I'm talking players and coaches. Avery's bearhug defense comment was no worse than anything Pop or Duncan has said as far as trying to make a point about officiating without throwing a tantrum...

I've heard several Spurs fans say that even they are tired of Duncan, Manu, and Bowen's reactions after a foul is called on them...

[clambake]

Spurs fans are feeling the way mavs fans have felt for years. We have all seen Duncan get calls out of nowhere. It leaves a bitter taste.

[Spurologist]

Throw out Cuban and how much whining to the media do the Mavs do?? I'm talking players and coaches. Avery's bearhug defense comment was no worse than anything Pop or Duncan has said as far as trying to make a point about officiating without throwing a tantrum...

I've heard several Spurs fans say that even they are tired of Duncan, Manu, and Bowen's reactions after a foul is called on them...

That's the whole point. Don't you get it. Avery or the players don't have to say shit because Cuban is at the controls. He's got money and the right resources to get attention. Congratulations Cuban. You have finally done it.

[Trainwreck2100]

Spurs fans are feeling the way mavs fans have felt for years. We have all seen Duncan get calls out of nowhere. It leaves a bitter taste.

You've played them twice in the last seven and in 03 you didn't stand a snowballs's chance in hell after Dirk went out.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

I always thought a classy team had classy fans, this board has proved my thoughts wrong.

[SenorSpur]

Throw out Cuban and how much whining to the media do the Mavs do?? I'm talking players and coaches. Avery's bearhug defense comment was no worse than anything Pop or Duncan has said as far as trying to make a point about officiating without throwing a tantrum...

I've heard several Spurs fans say that even they are tired of Duncan, Manu, and Bowen's reactions after a foul is called on them...

It's funny how Mavs fans want to discount Cuban's bitchin' and moaning, yet call the Spurs players whiners and floppers.

Cuban is the biggest bitch of anyone in the league. Who else, other than Rasheed, has been fined as often for transgressions and complaints regarding officiating? Dude does have good suggestions, but they are often tainted because of his reputation as a crybaby.

While the Mavs have played superbly and hit big shots, theres' no doubt they have benefited greatly from "bogus" calls from the officials - many of which have been well documented. Have the Mavs had some bad calls against them too? Of course. However in the Spurs case, it's not just those bogus calls themselves, but the TIMING of those calls. Over the past two games the calls against Tim, Bruce and Manu produced disasterous results and have swung the tide during the final minutes of the game.

I'm sure all of us want two things from the officials.

1. Call the game consistently and according to the rules.
2. Allow the players - not the officials - to decide the game during crucial junctures.

[td4mvp21]

I always thought a classy team had classy fans, this board has proved my thoughts wrong.

With your superstar, the word "class" shouldn't be in your vocabulary.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

With your superstar, the word "class" shouldn't be in your vocabulary.
:lol Go start another "refs suck" thread. No one is talking about the Kings here.

[greyforest]

I always thought a classy team had classy fans, this board has proved my thoughts wrong.

lol

when fucking jackasses are allowed to run rampant on this message board there is bound to be some retort. love how mavs fans can come in here and talk as much shit as they want, and if we say anything back then suddenly we dont have any class, on our own message board.

go jack off with your buddies on kingsfans! how's that for class?

[KingsFanWithoutName]

lol

when fucking jackasses are allowed to run rampant on this message board there is bound to be some retort. love how mavs fans can come in here and talk as much shit as they want, and if we say anything back then suddenly we dont have any class, on our own message board.

go jack off with your buddies on kingsfans! how's that for class?I love when you guys talk shit. You should do more of it. The constant whining and bitching about "the refs are out to get the Spurs" is where you lose class in my eyes. YOU FUCKERS HAVE MADE OVER 2,000 REF COMPLAINT THREADS.

[td4mvp21]

I love when you guys talk shit. You should do more of it. The constant whining and bitching about "the refs are out to get the Spurs" is where you lose class in my eyes. YOU FUCKERS HAVE MADE OVER 2,000 REF COMPLAINT THREADS.

So are we supposed to care?

[KingsFanWithoutName]

So are we supposed to care?You responded, which means you cared enough to type a response.

[picnroll]

Throw out Cuban and how much whining to the media do the Mavs do?? I'm talking players and coaches. Avery's bearhug defense comment was no worse than anything Pop or Duncan has said as far as trying to make a point about officiating without throwing a tantrum...

Put up or shut up. Find some whining Pop has done. Doesn't even have to be about this series just to make it easier on you.

[T Park]

Little known sports fact:

The San Antonio Spurs have NEVER lost a game. EVER.

And Mavs fans have never complained about the refs. EVER


Fucking hypocrits

[picnroll]

I always thought a classy team had classy fans, this board has proved my thoughts wrong.
Hey you can always go back to KingsFans.com if you don't like it here. YOu can bet you wouldn't be able to bitch about the Kings there like you do the Spurs here.

[Winnipeg_Spur]

Spurs fans are feeling the way mavs fans have felt for years. We have all seen Duncan get calls out of nowhere. It leaves a bitter taste.
They've never put Duncan on the line with 8 seconds left because of a fucking handcheck.

[picnroll]

And Mavs fans have never complained about the refs. EVER


Fucking hypocrits
T Park there a thread waitn for you here (http://spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?p=951770#post951770) .

[ballhog]

I just wish they would call Dampier for holding guys and camping out in the lane when Harris drives to the basket. No-talent asshole is just a thug---pushing, grabbing, hacking just drives me nuts.

[KingsFanWithoutName]

Hey you can always go back to KingsFans.com if you don't like it here. YOu can bet you wouldn't be able to bitch about the Kings there like you do the Spurs here.
I don't bitch about the Spurs here, I actually have great respect for your team. This site has some very knowledgeable posters, and I enjoy reading what they have to say. It just sucks that I have to wade through so much bullshit and whining and complaining and bitching and conspiracy theories to find the decent posters here. Can you understand at least that much?

[T Park]

you go ahead and spam the forum with your NVE, after Game 2, Beno deserves to be benched for his stupid performance too.