Beno deserves 1st half minutes

[2centsworth]

Nick is the worst defender the spurs have ever had. Beno can't do any worse, but if he does it will be early enough for the spurs to overcome.

Every time nick comes in early the mavs go on a nice run.

[Mr. Peabody]

Nick is the worst defender the spurs have ever had. Beno can't do any worse, but if he does it will be early enough for the spurs to overcome.

Every time nick comes in early the mavs go on a nice run.

I agree. I would like to see the point differential when NVE is in the game. He can't stay in front of any of the Mavs on defense and is playing hesitant on offense.

[Josh810]

The only positive thing I can remember Nick doing in this entire series is the pass ahead to Ginobili for the breakaway dunk tonight. He's been pretty awful.

[Trifecta]

Besides, I am sure Beno can provide a couple of points!!!

See the play when Nick started across half-court then picked up his dribble (begging for someone to pass the ball to)!

Nick will not get alot of playing time to find his rhythm as he says he needs!

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Nick got some assists, but his streaky defense doesn't help...Supposedly He made up for it in the final stretch....We got Nick to run the offense and his daggers...We have yet to have any one from HOrry, to Nick, Barry do their job...which is the 3 Bomb...Finley has been the only one showing up the most this series.

[Mr. Peabody]

Free Beno!!!

[SenorSpur]

I thing Pop is full of shit on this decision. Beno's cannot possibly be any worse than NVE. Beno is at least a better shooter and can spread the floor.

If Pop doesn't trust Beno to play him in spots, he should get rid of his ass.

If that's the case, the Spurs should have retained Jason Hart from a couple of years ago.

[MannyIsGod]

I think you might be right. Beno is pretty bad, but so is Nick. The Spurs aren't nearly as deep as they have been in the past.

[Parker 09]

Beno can't do any worse than van exel, give him a run and see what happens

[ata]

Nick is the worst defender the spurs have ever had. Beno can't do any worse, but if he does it will be early enough for the spurs to overcome.

Every time nick comes in early the mavs go on a nice run.
Check this (http://www.popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20060517&game=DALSAS)

[Louae]

there is no way in hell that beno is worse than nick-not-so-quick. Beno should get Nick's minutes b/c Nick is the mavs best player when he's on the floor.

[polandprzem]

Check this (http://www.popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20060517&game=DALSAS)

yup. That tells something :(

[timvp]

Nick is done but Beno's defense is even worse. Harris got going in the series in Game 2 when Beno was "guarding" him. It was a layup drill.

[jcrod]

Nick is done but Beno's defense is even worse. Harris got going in the series in Game 2 when Beno was "guarding" him. It was a layup drill.


Yes he did, but that was garbage time. And I would think he would be matched up with Terry. I don't think he can do any worse than Exel and he's a great shooter. Give him a chance.

[ata]

Nick is done but Beno's defense is even worse. Harris got going in the series in Game 2 when Beno was "guarding" him. It was a layup drill.
It has been layup drill since Pop found his "small ball" religion.

[2centsworth]

Nick is done but Beno's defense is even worse. Harris got going in the series in Game 2 when Beno was "guarding" him. It was a layup drill.
One game, he deserves a shot if only in the 1st half. Also at worse Beno's defense is the same because Nick never stops anyone.

[timvp]

Throwing Beno in this fire would kill him. That guy is fragile.

The Mavs would kill poor dude.

[ManuTim_best of Fwiendz]

Beno's jump shot is pretty solid.

I don't think he should play point though...He should just be there to set up a three or something Manu and Barry are better playing the point..

[baseline bum]

Nick Van Exel had one play where he guarded the pick and roll perfectly, but he has no business being on the same floor as Jason Terry. When Nick's on the court, Terry might as well be Jordan.

[2centsworth]

Sticking with Van Exel is like mack brown stinking with Chris Simms until it's too late.

[2centsworth]

Nick Van Exel had one play where he guarded the pick and roll perfectly, but he has no business being on the same floor as Jason Terry. When Nick's on the court, Terry might as well be Jordan.
how many wide open 8 ft jump shots did terry have on nick. I counted 3 in a row.

[baseline bum]

Throwing Beno in this fire would kill him. That guy is fragile.

The Mavs would kill poor dude.

What's the difference? Nick's already dead. I don't expect Beno to be much better defensively, but at least he can get on streaks sometimes. Nick's been the most consistent Spurs player this whole season. Nick can't shoot, can't penetrate, and the offense stagnates because all Dallas has to do is hide Dirk on him, knowing he will do absolutely nothing. There is no reason for NVE to ever put that jersey on again.

[jcrod]

Throwing Beno in this fire would kill him. That guy is fragile.

The Mavs would kill poor dude.


Players are born in the playoffs. You don't know until you try again.

[timvp]

What's the difference? Nick's already dead. I don't expect Beno to be much better defensively, but at least he can get on streaks sometimes. Nick's been the most consistent Spurs player this whole season. Nick can't shoot, can't penetrate, and the offense stagnates because all Dallas has to do is hide Dirk on him, knowing he will do absolutely nothing. There is no reason for NVE to ever put that jersey on again.

Beno is the human 0-7 run. This series is tight enough without worrying about whether your point guard can bring the ball up the court.

[T Park]

:lol

Van Exel's D in the 4th quarter was fantastic.

The rotations and step out D on Terry was GREAT.


He freakin stepped up.

He forced a horrible shot by terry, he also after Ginobili knocked the ball loose, grabbed it and sent it ahead for him to dunk it.


unreal, guess you haters missed that part of the game eh?

[Cant_Be_Faded]

but he's slovenian!

[T Park]

Players are born in the playoffs

and Beno is dead.

Didn't games 3, 4, and 2 in this series teach you that??

Good god his D on Harris in the 3rd quarter of game 2 was PUTRID!

[2centsworth]

and Beno is dead.

Didn't games 3, 4, and 2 in this series teach you that??

Good god his D on Harris in the 3rd quarter of game 2 was PUTRID!
about the same as nick's d was against terry in the 1st half. I think the spurs need to give beno just a shot in the 1st half, if he doesn't deliver then back he goes.

[baseline bum]

Beno is the human 0-7 run. This series is tight enough without worrying about whether your point guard can bring the ball up the court.

In Game 4 Nick was the 0-8 run twice. His and-1s he gave up to Terry in game 4 killed us.

[SPARKY]

I'd go with the vet over the youngster. No need to see another 25-1 run or whatever that the Pistons dropped on the Spurs in last year's Finals.

[2centsworth]

I'd go with the vet over the youngster. No need to see another 25-1 run or whatever that the Pistons dropped on the Spurs in last year's Finals.
that's the problem with Beno, he's a freakin risk. However, maybe a risk worth taking very early.

[T Park]

No need to see another 25-1 run or whatever that the Pistons dropped on the Spurs in last year's Finals.

Spurs would've had not only a lead, but a nice lead going into halftime had Beno not clenched up and became Lindsey Hunter's bitch.


Of course, Kevin martin and Bibby made him his bitch in the last round.

Yeah go ahead and run him out there :rolleyes

[T Park]

that's the problem with Beno, he's a freakin risk. However, maybe a risk worth taking very early.

Not on the road in a game 6, down 3-2

No way no how not even close.

[2centsworth]

Not on the road in a game 6, down 3-2

No way no how not even close.

He won't be worse than Nick. Dallas doesn't apply any pressure.

[ata]

Beno is the human 0-7 run. This series is tight enough without worrying about whether your point guard can bring the ball up the court.
With Pop's small ball religion he doesn't have to. There is plenty of guards to bring up the ball. Afterward, he can assist. And you know, he really CAN assist.

[ata]

but he's slovenian!
Thread was not started by Slovenian, AFAIK I am the only Slovenian poster in this thread, so: what is your point?
Are you smoking something or are you just dumb? Your call.

[T Park]

And you know, he really CAN assist.

Yeah ask the Mavericks how in game 2 his "assists" helped them out, with his horrible shot selection and horrible defense.

[timvp]

In Game 4 Nick was the 0-8 run twice. His and-1s he gave up to Terry in game 4 killed us.

Van Exel is +1 in the playoffs in plus/minus. That's pretty damn good considering he's out there when Tony's getting his rest. If he can just hold the score even, he's doing his job.

And then hopefully one day he hits a couple shots.

[velik_m]

if spurs get past mavs, Beno will get his chance to prove his worth against suns

[timvp]

if spurs get past mavs, Beno will get his chance to prove his worth against suns

Yeah, that'd make more sense. Nash versus Beno is a decent matchup.

Beno versus Harris or Terry is just asking for trouble.

[Melmart1]

Beno can't even bring the ball past halfcourt. He would probably be like Cassel last night, grinning ear to ear and then- oopsie! 8 second violation.

And yes, NVE stepped up in crunch time and made some great defensive rotations. I don't think Beno could have done that. And since the difference in the game was only 1 pt, putting Beno in to flounder for even a minute could have dire consequences. Stick with Nick.

[ata]

if spurs get past mavs, Beno will get his chance to prove his worth against suns
Spurs will not pass Mavs with small ball.

[GoSpurs21]

and Beno is dead.

Didn't games 3, 4, and 2 in this series teach you that??

Good god his D on Harris in the 3rd quarter of game 2 was PUTRID!its dumb ass statements like this that make Pop keep going to old ass nve.

By the way I am so glad I didnt sell my game 5 tickets to a greedy ass mavs fan and drove all the way from RR to see the Spurs win. Hell I still got the adrenalin from tonights game...and I had to sit next to lame ass mavs fans again tonight.

but I really hate the way nve kills the momentum that the Spurs build up during the game. where are all the nve supporters? Timvp and Kori?

if the Spurs want to win in dallas play anyone other than nve and we will win

oh yea and fuck you mouse you transvestite...not that theres anything wrong with that...but you are the ulimate trader mouse

and last but not least I'm sorry I put my new job ahead of the Spurs...game 2 against dallas is the only home playoff game I missed this playoff season

[Kibic]

Yeah ask the Mavericks how in game 2 his "assists" helped them out, with his horrible shot selection and horrible defense.
Just asking, have you ever play basketball?

[ata]

Just asking, have you ever play basketball?

He?
http://www.spurstalk.com/kings051.jpg

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

On Playstation, maybe.

[notoveryet7]

everyone fucking relax about playing small ball, i'm sure pop knows what he's doing considering his career as a successful coach...i agree Beno should be given some chance, but c'mon Van Exel has more experience which is why he is second in rotation. Beno would probably provided the same amount of defense, but will definitely light it up better on offense...he's that type a player who will have a quiet 10-15 points if given an opportunity...but we'll see...

[sendman]

T Parks opinions are meaningless, because he is a hater. He will bend backwards to find something good in an average or even bad game played by NVE and he will always try find something bad in a good or solid game played by the player he hates. He's objectivity went down the drain long, long time ago.

[Kamnik]

He?
http://www.spurstalk.com/kings051.jpg

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

On Playstation, maybe.

i play ball 3 times a week and i say FREE BENO :D


seriously......

i am a huge fan of Beno but it could be too much for him to handle the pressure now (he hasnt played-pop's fault)

but i am sure he can start playing all Nick's minutes against the suns if Spurs survive





as for Nick-i am damn sorry he came to the Spurs; if Beno would be playing their combined minutes he could be damn useful now!

i hope Beno gets traded because i think he is a great player and will never develop playing behind parker or even an aging veteran that should already retire (no hate vor VanX; but he is really awful)

[Kibic]

He?
http://www.spurstalk.com/kings051.jpg

:lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao :lmao

On Playstation, maybe.
Well, now I see why he hates Beno so much.

Does anyone know the joke about "cat father" and "cat-kid" going to f... on a cold winter evening?

[sendman]

Kibic and ata, with your personal attacks you show no class. Grow up boys!

[ata]

Zase se brigaj!

[greyforest]

Check this (http://www.popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20060517&game=DALSAS)

wow i've never seen this.

bookmarking!!

[beachbarbie948]

Beno can't be any worse than Van Exel is out there

[zeleni]

Beno can't be any worse than Van Exel is out there

Yes, he can. But he can be also a difference maker. Pop has to make a decision when will he been given an opportunity to rebuild his playoff career. I think Beno and Rasho starting can make +15pt difference in half-time.

Hey, but I'm a homer.

[picnroll]

Damn, I think T Park's ready to sign Nick the Quick to a long term contract. :lol

timvp, T Park just say it, "Nick sucks". It's okay, everybody is wrong once in a while.

[Kamnik]

Damn, I think T Park's ready to sign Nick the Quick to a long term contract. :lol

timvp, T Park just say it, "Nick sucks". It's okay, everybody is wrong once in a while.

this would mean abandoning all their posts of the last year :lol

i generaly like the point timvp is trying to make but he is soooo off when it comes to VanX

[Kibic]

Kibic and ata, with your personal attacks you show no class. Grow up boys!
What attacks? By asking if he ever plays basketball? I just want to know what level of competence I can expect from him. Sorry, I am new on forum.


So, he does not play basketball?

[CosmicCowboy]

Beno is the human 0-7 run. This series is tight enough without worrying about whether your point guard can bring the ball up the court.

exactly. Avery would trap him every time with Harris and Terry. Beno would NOT be able to handle it.

[DarrinS]

Shit, let Manu or Brent run the point when Tony sits.


Van Exel can't work his way around a pick. The Mavs burnt him repeatedly on high screens. It was pissin me off! :madrun

[2centsworth]

If you have a good eye for these games you could see Tim Duncan was frustrated with Nick. 1st after terry busted the 3rd str8 wide open jumper on nick, and late in the 3rd or early 4th when Tim didn't pass to Nick who was wide open for 3 but instead threw it to a surprised Manu who thought the ball was gonna go to Nick.

[picnroll]

Van Quicksand is so hell bent to make his own personal impact on the playoffs that he's a danger to the team's success.

[timvp]

Van Quicksand is so hell bent to make his own personal impact on the playoffs that he's a danger to the team's success.

That's why he's +1?

I'll admit he's sucking shooting the ball but from your backup point guard behind Tony, if he's keeping the games even I don't know what more you want. He's playing ugly but the net result is decent so I don't see much reason to complain.

[bigglendiesel]

shoot, steve kerr used to get benched most of the playoff games, but when he came out, he made the best of it, i think good ol'e Beeen-O's just waitin for his shot!

[DarrinS]

That's why he's +1?

I'll admit he's sucking shooting the ball but from your backup point guard behind Tony, if he's keeping the games even I don't know what more you want. He's playing ugly but the net result is decent so I don't see much reason to complain.


Spurs went on a 21-7 run in the 3rd quarter. NVE didn't play in the 3rd quarter. Coincidence?

Somone posted this earlier --> http://www.popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20060517&game=DALSAS

[sa_butta]

I think everyone is upset because he is not doing what everyone wants him to do, which is making 3's in the playoffs. But I think he is running the offense well and getting the ball to the right people and the right times. Its not like he is jacking up a bunch of shots, he had the same number of assists as Parker (4) in less than half the time.

[ploto]

Throwing Beno in this fire would kill him.
When we played Tony with NVE, I would rather see Beno in NVE's spot.

Tony needs to do a Jason Kidd and play just about the whole game-- Tim did last night. Nick just takes way too long to get the team into its offense and they end up having to take poor shots.

[timvp]

Spurs went on a 21-7 run in the 3rd quarter. NVE didn't play in the 3rd quarter. Coincidence?

Somone posted this earlier --> http://www.popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20060517&game=DALSAS

In Game 1, Van Exel was +4. In Game 3, he was +5.

Van Exel is playing pretty bad but it's still better than the alternative at this point. Plus, even though he's playing bad it's not hurting the Spurs too much.

[ploto]

In Game 1, Van Exel was +4. In Game 3, he was +5.

Van Exel is playing pretty bad but it's still better than the alternative at this point. Plus, even though he's playing bad it's not hurting the Spurs too much.
How do feel though about Tony and Nick? I don't see the reasoning- if Nick were playing great, it would be a good way to get him on the court more but last night-- why?? At least Beno is young-- and he has played pretty well when given the chance this season.

[2centsworth]

That's why he's +1?

I'll admit he's sucking shooting the ball but from your backup point guard behind Tony, if he's keeping the games even I don't know what more you want. He's playing ugly but the net result is decent so I don't see much reason to complain.
he's not shooting but that doesn't bother me so much as his atrocious defense.

[ata]

Face it timvp, NVE is bust.
I respect NVE, he did a lot of things in his career, but he is total bust this season. Nothing else, but bust.

If Pop will insist in small ball, than Beno is much better fit than NVE. Small line-up with Beno + three of Parker, Barry, Manu, Finley, Bowen + Duncan/Horry, ther is enough guards to bring up the ball.

Stats Beno - NVE
FG% 0.455 0.343
3PT% 0.387 0.357
APG 1.7 1.8
SPG 0.41 0.25
TO 0.98 0.88
PPG 5.1 5.5
Min 10.9 15.2
+/- -2.1 -4.4

I see that all numbers speak for NVE.

[Jimcs50]

The only positive thing I can remember Nick doing in this entire series is the pass ahead to Ginobili for the breakaway dunk tonight. He's been pretty awful.


Even I could have made that pass.

[picnroll]

Van Exel kills the Spurs because not only does he give up points like Paris gives up blowjobs but he gives the and ones and he gets the Spurs near penalty situation very early in the quarter. Fortunately he didn't do that last night in the fourth but that's killing the Spurs.

I seriously doubt you want to put the figures up on when Van Quicksand is in the game how many points are being scored by his man. Avery sees Quiocksand in and it's like throwing meat to a lion.

[twincam]

So what the hell happened to Sean Marks? He's a hustler and a great defender for a bench guy...plus he can play great low post....
What the hell?

[timvp]

How do feel though about Tony and Nick? I don't see the reasoning- if Nick were playing great, it would be a good way to get him on the court more but last night-- why?? At least Beno is young-- and he has played pretty well when given the chance this season.

Truth is Van Exel has always been more of a shooting guard than a point guard. With the Mavs, he always played off the ball. The thinking is if you can get Nick going, he's a type of player who can win a game for you. With the way this series is going, a bust out performance from Nick would be huge.

[timvp]

Van Exel kills the Spurs because not only does he give up points like Paris gives up blowjobs but he gives the and ones and he gets the Spurs near penalty situation very early in the quarter. Fortunately he didn't do that last night in the fourth but that's killing the Spurs.

I seriously doubt you want to put the figures up on when Van Quicksand is in the game how many points are being scored by his man. Avery sees Quiocksand in and it's like throwing meat to a lion.

Van Exel's defensive numbers have been good all season. In the playoffs, teams actually score at a lower rate with Van Exel in the game than Tony (100.4 points per 48 for Tony to 96.1 for NVE). And that's not a fluke because it was the same way in the regular season (88.4 for Tony, 88.1 for NVE).

If you want bad defense, put Beno in. He had the worst defensive rate on the team on paper during the regular season (91.3).

[ata]

Truth is Van Exel has always been more of a shooting guard than a point guard. With the Mavs, he always played off the ball. The thinking is if you can get Nick going, he's a type of player who can win a game for you. With the way this series is going, a bust out performance from Nick would be huge.

Some shoting guard with 0.343 FG%.
Waiting for bust out performance?
Put Nazr in, he busted out with 30 points, NVE bigest bust out (or is just bust) is "huge" 15 points againt Chicago.

[George W Bush]

http://www.spurstalk.com/kings051.jpg

Hey, Frosty the Snowman.
I didn't know you were a Spurs fan.



God Bless America :tu

[timvp]

What's ironic about Beno fan's talking poundage smack is that if Beno would lose weight like the Spurs have asked him to, he might actually be able to handle playoff level defense.

[snowboarder]

VanX did a good job passing yesterday

but beno needs to play!

[beachbarbie948]

VanX did a good job passing yesterday

but beno needs to play!

amen

[ploto]

That's why he's +1?

I'll admit he's sucking shooting the ball but from your backup point guard behind Tony, if he's keeping the games even I don't know what more you want. He's playing ugly but the net result is decent so I don't see much reason to complain.

You do realize that using that stat- the Spur with the highest BY FAR on court stat for the entire play-offs is actually Beno at +23.7. :lol

[timvp]

You do realize that using that stat- the Spur with the highest BY FAR on court stat for the entire play-offs is actually Beno at +23.7. :lol

Playing 3 minutes in the playoffs will do that to stats.

[timvp]

Got damn. Now do you guys see why Beno shouldn't be in the game?

He's in there for 3 seconds and he turns the ball over in the backcourt. I couldn't believe his azz tried to draw a foul in that situation. He's just lucky there's instant replay nowadays.

WTF. He better not step foot on the court again this playoff run.

:pctoss

[T Park]

Turnover Beno strikes again.....

[Melmart1]

:lmao If the person who started this thread isn't ashamed, they SHOULD be!

[ata]

Hmm, I've checked yahoo.com, nba.com, popcoenmashine.net, espn.go.com and I couldn't find TO by Beno.
However I've found proves of bust-out performance of NVE (-1 on +/-; great).

[velik_m]

yes, but Spurs won by the highest margin in this series - coincidence? i think not. ;)

[timvp]

Brent Barry threw an inbounds pass to Beno with 2.5 seconds to go in the half. Beno didn't go and grab the ball and just kinda caught it nonchalantly and tried to flop his way to a foul. Marquis Daniels picked the ball up and hit a three. Luckily, the instant replay showed Daniels didn't quite get it off in time.

[ata]

So, was it trunover or not?

a) yes
b) no

[kris]

So, was it trunover or not?

a) yes
b) no

Probably not statistically a turnover, but Beno's one play at the end of the first half makes whoever made this post and whoever agreed with them owned.

Beno in the NBA world is a chubby white kid, and these athletic black guys on the Mavs can pretty much just run him down and take the ball from him whenever they want.

Van Exel didn't hit a damn thing, but he ran the team well and did fair on defense today and that is all we need from the backup point.

[orhe]

well van exel did what he was supposed to... give the ball to manu and tim w/o turning it over :D something beno can't do

[timvp]

So, was it trunover or not?

a) yes
b) no

Yes, it should have been Beno's turnover. For some reason the scorers gave it to Barry.

[kris]

Tenny bopper Beno doesn't start running suicides and he's going to be sitting on the street curb chewing his gum.

[aaronstampler]

TimVP and TPark, the Beno haters are insane. Daniels completely ran Beno over and if the refs had any respect for him, it'd be two FTs.

[Kibic]

Probably not statistically a turnover, but Beno's one play at the end of the first half makes whoever made this post and whoever agreed with them owned.

Beno in the NBA world is a chubby white kid, and these athletic black guys on the Mavs can pretty much just run him down and take the ball from him whenever they want.

Van Exel didn't hit a damn thing, but he ran the team well and did fair on defense today and that is all we need from the backup point.

So b) no

Statistics is all about long term...big numbers...than it will tell us something. Few second does not mean anything.

He will play, if not for Spurs than for some other team. :)

[kris]

So b) no

Statistics is all about long term...big numbers...than it will tell us something. Few second does not mean anything.



Don't try telling that to Robert Horry or Derek Fisher.

This is the playoffs I'm talking about here. Every possession and every second counts.

Beno turnovers aren't a new fad. He nearly coughed up the championship in just a few plays last year in the finals.

[kris]

And a) yes if you must know the truth. Beno should have handled the ball, but he lost it and tried to draw a foul instead.

[Kamnik]

TimVP and TPark, the Beno haters are insane. Daniels completely ran Beno over and if the refs had any respect for him, it'd be two FTs.

word!

that was a foul and you guys are a huge haters!

you are as not objective in regards to Beno as possible

[kris]

word!

that was a foul and you guys are a huge haters!

you are as not objective in regards to Beno as possible

I'm going to take a shot in the dark and say you are from the homeland.

[venitian navigator]

You can't be evaluated in three seconds...when he had the opportunity to play big minutes in the right situation, Beno played realy well!
The point, I think, is he's not as good as a back-up for few minutes...
He's the kind of player that needs minutes, 'cause his ability is to be in control of the team, and place all the players in the right situation for receiving a good pass.
He gives is best at a slow pace...and you can't change the pace of a game in few seconds or two minutes.
Probably he needs to be a starter...and that means that, by now, he's not the right solution for our team...

[kris]

You can't be evaluated in three seconds...when he had the opportunity to play big minutes in the right situation, Beno played realy well!
The point, I think, is he's not as good as a back-up for few minutes...
He's the kind of player that needs minutes, 'cause his ability is to be in control of the team, and place all the players in the right situation for receiving a good pass.
He gives is best at a slow pace...and you can't change the pace of a game in few seconds or two minutes.
Probably he needs to be a starter...and that means that, by now, he's not the right solution for our team...

He'll never be a true starter in this league. Maybe if somebody gets injured, but that's it. Basically, he can't handle big league pressure in the backcourt. It's not like this is the first time he's coughed up the ball just before the half ended.

[Bruno]

I find too that you are a little hard with Udrih :
- Udrih is a talented player : don't forget that he has made a very good rookie season.
- Udrih isn't a great ballhandler and is a little weak mentally : he need confidence if you don't want to see Turnover-Beno.

Beno has mainly struggle against Detroit last year and this year when he wasn't the main backup PG.
Against Detroit, it can be explained by Hunter and by the fact he was a rookie : Hunter is a mini-Bruce and has even given some troubles to James last night.
For this year, it's clearly a lack of confidence. You can't use Udrih for 10 seconds every 3 games : he isn't mentaly strong enough and/or lack of experience to be ready.

For these playoffs, Udrih should stick on the bench but I'm quite sure he can be an above average backup PG for next year with one more year and more confidence. I will happy to see him as backup PG next year but I think that Pop don't trust him and will trade him to sign a vet backup PG.

[Kibic]

I find too that you are a little hard with Udrih :
- Udrih is a talented player : don't forget that he has made a very good rookie season.
- Udrih isn't a great ballhandler and is a little weak mentally : he need confidence if you don't want to see Turnover-Beno.

Beno has mainly struggle against Detroit last year and this year when he wasn't the main backup PG.
Against Detroit, it can be explained by Hunter and by the fact he was a rookie : Hunter is a mini-Bruce and has even given some troubles to James last night.
For this year, it's clearly a lack of confidence. You can't use Udrih for 10 seconds every 3 games : he isn't mentaly strong enough and/or lack of experience to be ready.
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If Popović (He is from "near homeland" too) did not build his team in regular season, it is his foult. I still think Beno is good enaugh to be in first 12 Spurs. But with Popović..nope.

[SPARKY]

Beno's in for 2 seconds and almost gave up 3 points. He's a run waiting to happen for any opponent. I think he's out of SA after this season.

[Spurs Dynasty]

Check this (http://www.popcornmachine.net/cgi-bin/gameflow.cgi?date=20060517&game=DALSAS)

What is that all about? I am not a barchartologist, and i dont think that helps me in the Beno-NVE discussion

[SPARKY]

Bobby Jackson would be a nice fit at backup point.

[Bruno]

I remember last year, pop used Mike Wilks in a game only for one defensive stop. (I think it was against Boykins but I can be worng on that)
Beno is too mentally soft to do that.
But, as I said before, he is good enough to be the backup PG next year but I doubt Pop trust him enough.

[SPARKY]

If they're interested in Marcus Banks then that would seem to indicate that they have a portion of the MLE targeted to adding a backup point. I'd say go with the experience, but they do need to add some younger talent on the perimeter. If they can revisit the Barry for Smith deal then I think it'd be fine to bring in a vet point like BJackson.

[SPARKY]

One also wonders what the plan for the 3 spot is. It's curious that Sanikidze is reported to be headed to the summerleagues in a couple of month.

[ata]

What is that all about? I am not a barchartologist, and i dont think that helps me in the Beno-NVE discussion

2centsworth wrote: Every time nick comes in early the mavs go on a nice run.

To back-up his claim, I've provided link.
Please observe the line in the middle which represents relative score (+10 / -10) and observe line when NVE plays (black bar).

[ata]

Beno's in for 2 seconds and almost gave up 3 points. He's a run waiting to happen for any opponent. I think he's out of SA after this season.
Please be accurate. Beno was in 19 sec and he didn't gave up 3 points.
To follow your lead, I could say, he almost draw foul and got 2 FTA.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

pimpo = mookie?

[clubalien]

Probably not statistically a turnover, but Beno's one play at the end of the first half makes whoever made this post and whoever agreed with them owned.

Beno in the NBA world is a chubby white kid, and these athletic black guys on the Mavs can pretty much just run him down and take the ball from him whenever they want.

Van Exel didn't hit a damn thing, but he ran the team well and did fair on defense today and that is all we need from the backup point.


what is with bringing race into this? need I remind you some of the best players on the court are a German whtie guy and a white arginetine with a gold medal.

if you just said a chubby out of shape person and a athlitc person but bringing race into basketball is kind of lame

that said the NBA needs more white superstars

kids need rolemodels.
fact there are more poor whtie people than black

black kids can look up to superstars in the NBA think hey those guys made it I can too
so they work hard to learn basketball and be in school insted of on the streets

now where all those kids actual have the skills in the NBA some coudl be good enough to earn college scholarships
and if they aren;t good enough to they have had a sold rolemodel to keep them out of trouble

people are more liekly to think hey i can do it to if the eprson is of the same race

therefore because there are more poor white kids in need of help, we need mroe white superstars for role models

emmit smith still rules so people can look up to anyone
However, it does make since to have white superstars in the NBA just the same as how WNBA helps little girls.

You promoting a sterotype that white people are chubby but blacks are athletic isn;t helping anyone.

[clubalien]

I knew duncan was an islander didn;t know he was white. I think he is married to a white chick though.