Dallas fans, Steve Nash, and Mark Cuban

[CosmicCowboy]

Dallas fans...if Steve Nash and Company knock your Mavs out of the finals...

Who you gonna hate more? Mark Cuban or Steve Nash?

:lmao

[gingko]

Niether. Mavs offered him a very fair contract which the Suns upped by a big margin. Much more than any other team was willing to give.

[reydawg]

Niether. Mavs offered him a very fair contract which the Suns upped by a big margin. Much more than any other team was willing to give.

Good answer. Kinda dumb question.

[Drbio]

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I agree with the answer gingko gave though....but we can still have a little fun right?

[CosmicCowboy]

Niether. Mavs offered him a very fair contract which the Suns upped by a big margin. Much more than any other team was willing to give.

Yeah. That was really stupid of the Suns wasn't it? That much for a washed up scrub? :lol

[BillsCarnage]

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I agree with the answer gingko gave though....but we can still have a little fun right?

:lmao That's funny!

[Drbio]

Thanks. I love the Mavs, but when did we all lose the ability to laugh a little bit? Suns "burned" us in Game One....we'll get the next four. :)

[LEONARD]

Neither...


Niether. Mavs offered him a very fair contract which the Suns upped by a big margin. Much more than any other team was willing to give.

Exactly...


Yeah. That was really stupid of the Suns wasn't it? That much for a washed up scrub? :lol

It wasn't the first 2-3 yrs of the contract that was the concern...Nash had shown signs of wearing down in Dallas and the Mavs didn't want to do the $$/yr that he wanted at the length he wanted. The Suns might be hurting in a couple years with his contract...

http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/phoenix.htm

It's not like the Mavs thought he would go to Phoenix and suck...as far as getting 2 MVP's goes, he's not really doing much more than he did in Dallas is he? Still the same player...

[gingko]

Thats awesome drbio.

Cosmic - I don't know if you can really judge the final decision until year 5 when Nash, who is already showing tons of wear and tear, is still making $13 mil. He may be just fine, very possible. The Mavs did need to change their style of basketball. Jump shooting fast paced does not win in the playoffs. The Suns now are so much more athletic than the old mavs, so I am still not convinced he would have performed as well as he has had he stayed in Dallas.
The Suns may beat the Mavs, but I think that the Mavs have a better chance of beating the Heat or Pistons (not saying they will, just a better chacne) than the Suns do because Miami and Detroit both have back to the basket post players who can score. That is the achilles heal of the way the Suns play.
That being said, it is curious that Steve took the $45 mil offer from Dallas as a slight and stopped playing for Team Canada in the offseason and started working out more. I wish he had done that in Dallas.

[strangeweather]

It wasn't the first 2-3 yrs of the contract that was the concern...Nash had shown signs of wearing down in Dallas and the Mavs didn't want to do the $$/yr that he wanted at the length he wanted. The Suns might be hurting in a couple years with his contract...

Considering he's taken them from the lottery to two conference finals appearances (and maybe more) in two tries, I'm thinking that's a deal the Suns do every time -- especially considering he makes like a third less than Marion.

Of course, the bottom line is still that he's more valuable to the Suns in their system than he is to the Mavs in theirs.

[Holmes_Fans]

Do people really think Steve Nash can keep up this style of play until 2010? He was tired in the 2nd round of the playoffs, he only played 35 min a game and really only plays 1/2 of that because he doesn't play defense.

[Drbio]

I have no idea. Nash looks like he is going to break down at the end of every season and then has some amazing game. The guy has at least earned an ounce of the benefit of the doubt.

[leemajors]

It's not like the Mavs thought he would go to Phoenix and suck...as far as getting 2 MVP's goes, he's not really doing much more than he did in Dallas is he? Still the same player...

nash is better than when he played in dallas. dirk is better too.

[Drbio]

nash is better than when he played in dallas. dirk is better too.
I have to agree and find it very odd that they needed to split up for each to get so much better.

[MissAllThat]

Amazing how Dallas fans hate on the players after they leave. Nash is amazing, plain and simple. That's all their is to it. If this was the Spurs and they'd done this, I'd be calling for Holt's head. Boy, Cuban really feeds the crap well, and the sad part is y'all buy it.

[Drbio]

Amazing how Dallas fans hate on the players after they leave. Nash is amazing, plain and simple. That's all their is to it. If this was the Spurs and they'd done this, I'd be calling for Holt's head. Boy, Cuban really feeds the crap well, and the sad part is y'all buy it.
Cuban made a huge offer to Nash and walked away thinking they had a deal. Dirk was even on his way to Dallas to be at a presser for his good friend. Nash then took the money and ran. The Nash departure is hardly on Cuban. He cose a different deal. More power to him and he is a hell of a player. The reason he isn't beloved in Dallas is because he ran like the little money grubbing canadian biotch he is for more money. The funny thing is, he failed to factor the Arizona state income tax into the equation and the Dallas deal would have actually made more financial sense. So Nash can suck it. If he wanted to leave.....good riddance. It worked out well for him and Dallas in the long run.

[pache100]

So Nash can suck it. If he wanted to leave.....good riddance. It worked out well for him and Dallas in the long run.

We'll see how well you think it worked out for Dallas when Nashy hands Dirk's ass to you on a platter. :lol

[degenerate_gambler]

The reason he isn't beloved in Dallas is because he ran like the little money grubbing canadian biotch he is for more money. So Nash can suck it.


Well I'm glad you aren't bitter about it.

[MadDog73]

It's not like the Mavs thought he would go to Phoenix and suck...as far as getting 2 MVP's goes, he's not really doing much more than he did in Dallas is he? Still the same player...


Uh, he lead the Suns to beat the Mavs last year, and may do it again.

If he does it again, then it was a very stupid move by billionaire Mark Cuban, who's shown he's not afraid of losing money. (Spending all that jack on unnecessary fines, for example).

[DampierAmGod]

Amazing how Dallas fans hate on the players after they leave. Nash is amazing, plain and simple. That's all their is to it. If this was the Spurs and they'd done this, I'd be calling for Holt's head. Boy, Cuban really feeds the crap well, and the sad part is y'all buy it.

Uh, Nash has always been a terrific offensive player. However, his defense game is simply non-existant. We wouldn't be the improved defensive team we are today if Nash was our leader on offense. We wouldn't have beaten SA, Parker would have averaged 30 a game with Nash gaurding him.

He excels in Phoenix because they play a freak style of basketball that doesn't require you to play defense. When average defenders like Marion and Bell are considered "defensive specialists", you know their team is soft on defense. Just like with the Mavs a few years ago, Najera was considered our "defensive specialist". What a joke.

There's no need for Mavs fans to be angry at anyone except maybe the Mavs themselves if they lose the series by choking away wins like they did in game 1. Cuban offered Nash a great contract and the Suns simply offered more. It was a good move for both teams, the Suns got their PG and now Dirk is the leader of the team. Plus now we have much more youth and we don't have a contract that will be ridiculous in a couple years. Well, not one with Nash anyway. We have one of those with Dampier.

[clambake]

Cuban tries very hard to bring a title to Dallas. How do you lay blame for that? Nash seems to be working and trying harder now. Wish he'd tried a little harder for us. It's just like Finley. He's trying harder now, too. Name another nba owner who gives to his players more than Cuban?

[Pistonsfan01]

Cuban tries very hard to bring a title to Dallas. How do you lay blame for that? Nash seems to be working and trying harder now. Wish he'd tried a little harder for us. It's just like Finley. He's trying harder now, too. Name another nba owner who gives to his players more than Cuban?

he wants to win for himself dude not DAllas,hes extremely ego-centric and cares only about himself.Dont confuse the fact that you are benefitting from that as proof that hes a fellow fan and cares about the little guy yadda yadda

[clambake]

So, no other owner wants to win. That makes sense.

[Pistonsfan01]

So, no other owner wants to win. That makes sense.
the pistons owner Bill Davidson wants to win and hes approaching 200 years of age too

[Drbio]

We'll see how well you think it worked out for Dallas when Nashy hands Dirk's ass to you on a platter. :lol
I seem to remember spurs fan talking this same kind of crapola after game one of the last series too. How did that end up again?

[Drbio]

he wants to win for himself dude not DAllas,hes extremely ego-centric and cares only about himself.Dont confuse the fact that you are benefitting from that as proof that hes a fellow fan and cares about the little guy yadda yadda
You do realize that he holds about 15-20 seats a game near courtside and gives them to fans with "nosebleed seats" every game right. You do realize he gave every fan in attendance a voucher for free airfare. You do realize that about 3-4 times a year the upper deck gets free concessions. You do realize that he arranges for "the little guy" to attend free basketball seminars, clinics and expos right. He does a lot more than these little nonpublicized tidbits. I'd say he is a great owner for the common fan.

[pache100]

I seem to remember spurs fan talking this same kind of crapola after game one of the last series too. How did that end up again?

History. We're talking about the future now. We'll see, won't we?

[Drbio]

History. We're talking about the future now. We'll see, won't we?
Nice fall back. Of course, when that same line was used by mavs fans a week ago they were summarily dismissed. You are correct though...we shall see.

[pache100]

You do realize that he holds about 15-20 seats a game near courtside and gives them to fans with "nosebleed seats" every game right.

I was told he does not PAY for those seats. So, how does this make HIM a hero? It's coming out of team/facility revenues, nothing out of Cuban's personal pocket.


You do realize he gave every fan in attendance a voucher for free airfare.

No, he did not. American Airlines gave out those vouchers, Cuban just let the media give him credit for it without clarifying things. Pretty typical for him as far as I can tell.


You do realize that about 3-4 times a year the upper deck gets free concessions. You do realize that he arranges for "the little guy" to attend free basketball seminars, clinics and expos right. He does a lot more than these little nonpublicized tidbits. I'd say he is a great owner for the common fan.

The Spurs, as most other teams, do this stuff, too; it's pretty common. Most of the time, it comes out of team revenues, or from individual players. I'm not saying that Cuban is not a philanthropist, it's just that I have serious doubts as to how much this kind of stuff actually COSTS him; if he pays for ANY of it personally, it's because it's a tax write-off, that's all.

So far, I'm not impressed with your Cuban story...next?

[Drbio]

You aren't impressed because your facts are wrong. But let's not allow that little fact to get in the way of your rose colored glasses or anything. And saying that Cuban isn't affected by using team resources is pretty...well....stupid.

[Pistonsfan01]

You do realize that he holds about 15-20 seats a game near courtside and gives them to fans with "nosebleed seats" every game right. You do realize he gave every fan in attendance a voucher for free airfare. You do realize that about 3-4 times a year the upper deck gets free concessions. You do realize that he arranges for "the little guy" to attend free basketball seminars, clinics and expos right. He does a lot more than these little nonpublicized tidbits. I'd say he is a great owner for the common fan.
its a publicity stunt,he has to do something.How you can defend a big jerk like cuban is why you are despised.I mean if I had a scum like that for my owner I wouldnt defend him and the fact that you do means your not right in the head.Love your team but your owner is a joke

[pache100]

You aren't impressed because your facts are wrong. But let's not allow that little fact to get in the way of your rose colored glasses or anything. And saying that Cuban isn't affected by using team resources is pretty...well....stupid.

Which facts are wrong? And where did I say "that Cuban isn't affected by using team resources"? And what does that mean, anyway? I SAID the team pays for stuff and Cuban accepts the glory for it.

[Pistonsfan01]

Lemme give you an example,Im a Lions fan and we have the biggest piece of crap owner in the NFL in Bill Ford.Hes a tight wad who just doesnt care about winning.I pray every year that he sells the team but I still love the team.Now Cuban loves to win and will spend money to win,but not for you fans,not for the city of Dallas but for himself so he can party on his little rich boy yacht and be like WOOHOO LOOK AT ME.His antics cant be justified and make him look ridiculous,you cant defend that.You could find a perfectly sane owner for your team that would do every bit of the good things as cuban but none of his antics,because unfortunatly those out weigh his merits

[tempe85]

Cuban made a huge offer to Nash and walked away thinking they had a deal. Dirk was even on his way to Dallas to be at a presser for his good friend. Nash then took the money and ran. The Nash departure is hardly on Cuban. He cose a different deal. More power to him and he is a hell of a player. The reason he isn't beloved in Dallas is because he ran like the little money grubbing canadian biotch he is for more money. The funny thing is, he failed to factor the Arizona state income tax into the equation and the Dallas deal would have actually made more financial sense. So Nash can suck it. If he wanted to leave.....good riddance. It worked out well for him and Dallas in the long run.

Nash allowed the Mavs to match the Suns offer... Cuban said no. So in turn they signed Dampier to a longer contract for almost the same amount of money. That sure worked out for them! :lol

[clambake]

How can you make the comparison of Cuban and Ford. Cuban has built a competetive team that wins every year. That's why we appreciate him. The last time the lions won was in the Roman Collisium.

[reader]

Let us get some things right.

From Cuban's blog, he offered Nash 4 years @ 9 million = 36 million dollars

Phoenix offered Nash 6 years total = 66 million, final year, 50% guaranteed.

Cuban signed Dampier to 7 year, 73 million dollar contract.

Yup, that is looking good. Only 5 more years to see how the Damp one plays out, but hey, he may get back up to his contract year stats by year 7.

[jaysmooth004]

Amazing how Dallas fans hate on the players after they leave. Nash is amazing, plain and simple. That's all their is to it. If this was the Spurs and they'd done this, I'd be calling for Holt's head. Boy, Cuban really feeds the crap well, and the sad part is y'all buy it.

YOU KNOW I WAS JUST SITTING HERE READING ALL THIS CRAP ABOUT NASH FROM ALL THE DALLAS FANS AND MISSALLTHAT YOU COULDNT OF SAID IT ANY BETTER. DALLAS FANS ARE TERRIBLE LOL. OK SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT MICHAEL FINLEY IS A TRAITOR NOW BECAUSE HE GETS CUT BY CUBAN??? AND AS FAR AS THE SUNS BEING IN TROUBLE WITH NASH'S CONTRACT IN THE NEAR FUTURE, I THINK MARK CUBAN IS MORE VULNERABLE TO HAVE FINANCIAL PROBLEMS. DOESNT HE OWE FINLEY LIKE FIFTY TWO MILLION? AND ON TOP OF THAT HE STILL OWES THE LEAGUE MONEY FOR ALL HIS FINES WITH THE OFFICIALS. :lol

[Drbio]

Lemme give you an example,Im a Lions fan and we have the biggest piece of crap owner in the NFL in Bill Ford.Hes a tight wad who just doesnt care about winning.I pray every year that he sells the team but I still love the team.Now Cuban loves to win and will spend money to win,but not for you fans,not for the city of Dallas but for himself so he can party on his little rich boy yacht and be like WOOHOO LOOK AT ME.His antics cant be justified and make him look ridiculous,you cant defend that.You could find a perfectly sane owner for your team that would do every bit of the good things as cuban but none of his antics,because unfortunatly those out weigh his merits
We have had perfect owners in the past....Don Carter, hell even Perot. That got us squat in the win column. Give me Cuban any day....with all his foibles.

[Drbio]

Let us get some things right.

From Cuban's blog, he offered Nash 4 years @ 9 million = 36 million dollars

Phoenix offered Nash 6 years total = 66 million, final year, 50% guaranteed.

Cuban signed Dampier to 7 year, 73 million dollar contract.

Yup, that is looking good. Only 5 more years to see how the Damp one plays out, but hey, he may get back up to his contract year stats by year 7.
You pay a different scale for big men. Plus, the Damp signing transformed the team into a more traditional style allowing the Mavs to leave small ball...a Nellie gimmick that works well in the regular season and fails harshly in the playoffs.

[clambake]

Maybe Cuban should buy the Lions. Then you will learn to appreciate wins.

[jaysmooth004]

How can you make the comparison of Cuban and Ford. Cuban has built a competetive team that wins every year. That's why we appreciate him. The last time the lions won was in the Roman Collisium.

WAIT A MINUTE NOW MARK CUBAN BUILT A COMPETITIVE TEAM TRUE! BUT WINS WHAT EVERY YEAR? I MEAN WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY WINNING? GET BACK TO ME ON THAT ONE, CAUSE AS FAR AS I KNOW THE MAVS AINT WON NOTHING. LIONS YEA YOU'RE RIGHT THEY'VE BEEN TERRIBLE FOR THE PAST GOD KNOWS HOW MANY YEARS BUT HELL THE MAVS JUST STARTED GOING TO THE PLAYOFFS LIKE FIVE YEARS AGO. THEY'VE ONLY BEEN A COMPETITIVE TEAM FOR FIVE YEARS IN THEIR FRANCHISE HISTORY. SO BAD THAT ITS A REMARKABLE ACCOMPLISHMENT TO ALL THE DALLAS FANS THAT THEY FINALLY BEAT THE SPURS. :lol

[leemajors]

You pay a different scale for big men. Plus, the Damp signing transformed the team into a more traditional style allowing the Mavs to leave small ball...a Nellie gimmick that works well in the regular season and fails harshly in the playoffs.

the mavs got their postseason success vs san antonio reverting to a more nellified lineup, and phoenix has been in the WCF 2 years running with a non-traditional lineup.

[leemajors]

Maybe Cuban should buy the Lions. Then you will learn to appreciate wins.

yeah because he would automatically make them better. snyder tried the same shit in the NFL, and it hasn't quite worked out for him yet, although he is getting closer.

[clambake]

You're right. Beating the spurs this year doesn't mean much.

[MadDog73]

You're right. Beating the spurs this year doesn't mean much.


Ask the 2004 Lakers how much beating the Spurs meant.

It sucks for the Spurs, but I guarantee Karl Malone didn't join the Lakers to get a "I beat the Spurs" ring. :rolleyes

[clambake]

It seems most of you are more sad to have lost to the mavs than I am happy to have beaten the spurs. I hope the mavs keep winning. That's all I'm saying. For fans whose team consistently lost for years, winning means forward movement. For now, I will continue to watch the mavs move forward.

[jaysmooth004]

And That Folks Is What All The Fussin Is About In Dallas! Dirk Got Himself A "i Beat The Spurs" Ring. Lmao

[MadDog73]

It seems most of you are more sad to have lost to the mavs than I am happy to have beaten the spurs. I hope the mavs keep winning. That's all I'm saying. For fans whose team consistently lost for years, winning means forward movement. For now, I will continue to watch the mavs move forward.


That makes sense. I remember in 2003, I was so happy when we beat the Lakers... 2 years of getting our ass kicked by them made that victory all the more sweeter. I'm sure Mavs have similar emotions...

But all those feelings of happiness lasted exactly until the Mavs beat us in Game one in 2003. That's the thing about Basketball: you're never satisfied. Even after winning 3 Championships, we still want more.

But I'll tell you this: losing this year will just make winning next year that much better!

[clambake]

If your throwing jewelry around, how about a "I beat the suns ring". The spurs ring has already lost it's value.

[jaysmooth004]

Ok San Antonio Has Been What The Most Winningest Team In The Nba Since Uuuummmm Somebody Help Me Here Ummm 98 I Think Correct Me If Im Wrong Guys, But With That Being Said The Spurs Have Three Rings To Show For. What Does Dallas Have? Winning Games Is Great But With Out The Rings You Have Nothing To Brag About. Savior The Moment Dallas Fans. And As Far As That Monkey Being Off Yalls Back, Hell That Gorrilla Mascot For The Suns Just Landed At The Dfw Monday Night.

[jaysmooth004]

That makes sense. I remember in 2003, I was so happy when we beat the Lakers... 2 years of getting our ass kicked by them made that victory all the more sweeter. I'm sure Mavs have similar emotions...

But all those feelings have happiness lasted exactly until the Mavs beat us in Game one in 2003. That's the thing about Basketball: you're never satisfied. Even after winning 3 Championships, we still want more.

But I'll tell you this: losing this year will just make winning next year that much better!

I COULDNT AGREE WITH YOU MORE.

[MadDog73]

If your throwing jewelry around, how about a "I beat the suns ring".

You have to do it first...

[clambake]

Who's bragging. You haven't understood one word I've said. Beating the spurs right now means nothing. It's been done and over. I want to keep winning. I want to feel what winning it all is like. I've been a mavs fan since brad davis, since kiki asswipe vandewuss, since tarpley snorted my mojo, since derek harpers mistake to the lakers. I'm not putting down the spurs.OK?

[Pistonsfan01]

If you actually read what I posted you would see that the comparison I make is how you can love the team and hate the owner.I even pointed out that Ford has never won anything but its a sad day when you would sell your soul to the devil just for wins.And also will You still think hes a good owner if you never win a title? Spare me Mavs fans,He made you competitive for his own purposes and not cause HE LOVES DALLAS :rolleyes

[clambake]

Oh, you mean he doesn't love the city of Dallas. Well, that makes two of us.

[MissAllThat]

Basically Cuban didn't want to be paying Nash when he was 35-36. Let me just point out one thing to you Mavs fans. Lets say its not Nash, but it was Jordan in the same situation (when he was 30 he retired from the league for the first time). So pretend he'd wanted a 5 year contract. Well, he'd be 35 when that ended. I bet he sucked when he was 35. That's pretty old. Mark probably wouldn't have taken that deal either. Or how about when he was 40? Yeah, lets bring 40 year old Jordan to the Mavs. You know what, 40 year old Jordan would have been the second leading scorer on this year's Mavs. Oh, and he would have been one of the only players to play in all 82 games (Dirk was in 81 and I think Dampier was the only one in all 82). It's not about age. 35 isn't all that old for a point guard. They can still play at 35. Big guys are more worn out by that age. Nash is one of the most energetic players in the league, and not just when the game is in play. The guy is bouncing around throughout the entire warm-ups like there are springs in his shoes or something. I've never seen another player with that much energy. When I saw him play in person last year, I thought what is this guy doing? He's going to be exhausted in the 4th quarter from all of this. He's like a 3 year old. Well, he really was like a 3 year old. That energy never went away, and he proceeded to dominate on the court. I don't think he's going to all of a sudden become a vegetable when he turns 35, and frankly I'd take a 35 year old Nash or a 40 year old Jordan over a lot of players.

[SPARKY]

You do realize that he holds about 15-20 seats a game near courtside and gives them to fans with "nosebleed seats" every game right. You do realize he gave every fan in attendance a voucher for free airfare. You do realize that about 3-4 times a year the upper deck gets free concessions. You do realize that he arranges for "the little guy" to attend free basketball seminars, clinics and expos right. He does a lot more than these little nonpublicized tidbits. I'd say he is a great owner for the common fan.

You do realize when he shits out comes flowers, etc...:yawn

[Drbio]

It's actually roses. I don't blame you for hating Cuban since he has constructed a team that knocked you out. The motivation is understandable. I'm not thrilled by many of his antics but I am damn glad he owns the Mavericks and is willing to open the wallet to win. We wants to win so bad he can't stand it and he treats the fans with class, despite the ignorant ranting of a trivial Pisstoons fan to the contrary.

[DampierAmGod]

Basically Cuban didn't want to be paying Nash when he was 35-36. Let me just point out one thing to you Mavs fans. Lets say its not Nash, but it was Jordan in the same situation (when he was 30 he retired from the league for the first time). So pretend he'd wanted a 5 year contract. Well, he'd be 35 when that ended. I bet he sucked when he was 35. That's pretty old. Mark probably wouldn't have taken that deal either. Or how about when he was 40? Yeah, lets bring 40 year old Jordan to the Mavs. You know what, 40 year old Jordan would have been the second leading scorer on this year's Mavs. Oh, and he would have been one of the only players to play in all 82 games (Dirk was in 81 and I think Dampier was the only one in all 82). It's not about age. 35 isn't all that old for a point guard. They can still play at 35. Big guys are more worn out by that age. Nash is one of the most energetic players in the league, and not just when the game is in play. The guy is bouncing around throughout the entire warm-ups like there are springs in his shoes or something. I've never seen another player with that much energy. When I saw him play in person last year, I thought what is this guy doing? He's going to be exhausted in the 4th quarter from all of this. He's like a 3 year old. Well, he really was like a 3 year old. That energy never went away, and he proceeded to dominate on the court. I don't think he's going to all of a sudden become a vegetable when he turns 35, and frankly I'd take a 35 year old Nash or a 40 year old Jordan over a lot of players.


Steve Nash wouldn't be the player he is right now if he'd come back to Dallas. It's pretty easy to look at Steve's stats in Phoenix and say "oh well bbububuu dallas sure misses that" but if you looked past the black and white you'd realize he gets those stats because of the type of system he plays in. In Dallas he'd be expected to play on defense and he wouldn't be running and gunning as much as he does as a Sun. Not to mention we tried to win with Nash for 4-5 years and what always happened? He always wore down come playoff time. He didn't have to wear down last season because Amare carried the team, he has already wore down in the other 2 series Phoenix has played. If there isn't a 2-3 day gap between game 6 and game 7 in round 2 then the Clippers win that series because Nash was absolutely flat in game 6.

No one can deny that Dallas isn't a better team without Nash and the bottom line is Cuban offered Nash a contract anyways and could have matched the Suns offer but didn't think it was worth it so I see no reason to hate on him. He's made more than enough shitty contract decisions already. I mean you have Dampiers contract, Finleys ridiculous contract, Shawn Bradley, Eschmieyer, I could probably go on and on.