Blair & Bush

[JoeChalupa]

Is there no thread about their performance yesterday evening when they both admitted mistakes about the Iraq war? Blair was more forthcoming than Bush since Bush only admitted some of his remarks may have been taken the wrong way. Such as his "bring it on" and "dead or alive" comments whereas Blair admitted that things they thought would be difficult have not been and things they thought would be easy have proven to be extremly much more difficult than anticipated.

YOu could see the pain in Bush's' face when he admitted his remarks were not very presidential.

[Oh, Gee!!]

He should be impeached.

[Vashner]

Bring it on fucking ruled....

He was ready to kick some ass. Bill Clinton didn't even go to the trade center after the 1st attempt to bring it down.

The media is fixated on that. You could have the same breakdown of mistakes in WWI WWII Korea Vietnam gulf 1 etc..

BIG FUCKING DEAL.. reality is U.S. British and others kicked some ass. Tanks running over shit and .50's blowing fuckers into hamburger meat.

We won this war. You democrap pussies want to savor a couple mistakes fine... Bring it on he wanted to kick some ass.. not run away...

If a POTUS ran AWAY from radical islam and it's blow up of shit that's what you guys wanted?

I think that's a crock of shit and this same thing is WHY a WAR HAWK will be next President again..

FUCK AL Queda... they don't scare me and there media fucking buddies don't scare me either...

BRING IT THE FUCK ON .

[JoeChalupa]

Bring it on fucking ruled....

He was ready to kick some ass. Bill Clinton didn't even go to the trade center after the 1st attempt to bring it down.

The media is fixated on that. You could have the same breakdown of mistakes in WWI WWII Korea Vietnam gulf 1 etc..

BIG FUCKING DEAL.. reality is U.S. British and others kicked some ass. Tanks running over shit and .50's blowing fuckers into hamburger meat.

We won this war. You democrap pussies want to savor a couple mistakes fine... Bring it on he wanted to kick some ass.. not run away...

If a POTUS ran AWAY from radical islam and it's blow up of shit that's what you guys wanted?

I think that's a crock of shit and this same thing is WHY a WAR HAWK will be next President again..

FUCK AL Queda... they don't scare me and there media fucking buddies don't scare me either...

BRING IT THE FUCK ON .

I love all those who say bring it on!...yet are safe over here in the States. Perhaps that is why Bush feels like shit for talking shit. Easy to pound your chest like King Kong when safe in front of your PC.
Many of his own party, NOT DEMOCRATS, have been encouraging Bush to come clean so don't try to spin this shit.
So I guess there are plenty of republican pussies out there too..are you one?

[boutons_]

Blair and Bush Are Duo Even in Descent

By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 26, 2006; A04

President Bush and British Prime Minister Tony Blair once bestrode the globe as powerful leaders who spoke boldly of bringing democracy to the Middle East. Now, dragged down by popular discontent over their adventure in Iraq, both have reached the lowest point of their careers.

On May 4, Blair's Labor Party suffered its worst defeats since 1997 in elections for seats on local governing boards, forcing the prime minister to shake up his cabinet amid calls that he step aside soon in favor of Gordon Brown, his expected successor. Bush, with his approval ratings hovering just above 30 percent, has also tried to reinvigorate his sagging popularity by reshuffling top aides.

Blair, desperate to hang on for at least another year, is already viewed as a lame duck -- and Bush also is increasingly seen as one, even though he has nearly three years left in his term.

As the Economist magazine put it earlier this month, the Bush-Blair partnership has become the "axis of feeble."

The two have always been a bit of an odd couple. Bush is a conservative Texan who speaks inelegant English, while Blair is an eloquent speaker who promoted the "third way" of politics with former president Bill Clinton, his transatlantic pal. After their first meeting, when Bush was asked what they had in common, he replied: "We both use Colgate toothpaste."

But Blair always has had a moralistic streak. Clinton, after all, had restrained the more enthusiastic prime minister when he wanted to send ground troops during the conflict over Kosovo. It turned out that Blair's worldview meshed perfectly with the neo-Wilsonian outlook that Bush adopted after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

Blair, convinced that it was essential for Britain to align its foreign policy closely with that of the United States, moved quickly to make sure he was in Bush's good graces. Though most European nations opposed Bush's plan for a missile defense system, Blair offered to support it as long as Bush agreed to negotiate a deal with Russia to end the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty -- rather than end it unilaterally, as some administration officials preferred. Bush agreed to Blair's proposal.

In many ways, the partnership has worked that way: Bush sets the course, with Blair at his side occasionally urging a slight turn of the oar. For instance, Blair persuaded Bush to seek U.N. approval before attacking Iraq, and he intervened at crucial moments to get Bush to devote more attention to the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. In Britain, however, Blair's willingness to accommodate Bush made him the subject of ridicule, earning him the sobriquet "Bush's poodle."

By coincidence or not, the two men held a news conference last night when it was past midnight in London. Indeed, while they still speak frequently by secure videoconference, yesterday's Oval Office visit was their first substantial meeting since September. Blair has also not officially accepted the Congressional Gold Medal that Congress awarded him for support after the Sept. 11 attacks, though he has come to Washington frequently since then.

"One of the reasons Blair is unpopular, even in his own party, is because he has been so close to Bush," said Charles Grant, director of the Center for European Reform in London. He said that in Bush's second term, the administration has worked hard to repair relations with European allies. But he said that while the European foreign policy elite was aware of the change, the general public was not -- and impressions of Bush had hardened.

"The thing public opinion focuses on is Iraq, which is still there," Grant said. The sudden upsurge in violence in Basra, which is controlled by British troops and had been largely quiet until now, has further hurt the prime minister.

Blair, in fact, is among the last of Bush's foreign policy allies still in power, with many ousted by anti-U.S. sentiment.

Peter Riddell, a political writer for the Times of London who wrote a book called "Hug Them Close" on Blair's relationship with Clinton and Bush, said that if Brown replaces Blair, it is unlikely he would suddenly try to distance himself from Bush; that is in part because British leaders have long regarded a close relationship with the United States as critical for Britain. But Grant said that Brown is closer to Labor Party members -- who deeply dislike Bush -- than is Blair, and so Brown would be reluctant to send British troops into any more military campaigns led by Americans.

"Public opinion is quite hostile to this shackling of British foreign policy to the United States," Grant said.

Of course, Iraq may yet turn out to be a success. But neither Bush nor Blair is likely to be in power to enjoy the moment.

© 2006 The Washington Post Company

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Upon the event of the Iraqis actualy forming a government in spite of the increasing, daily sectarian massacres in Iraq (and Afghanistan extremely vulnerable and not progressing), dubya and Tony try to spin their Iraq disaster as a success.

[xrayzebra]

And then you have one of boutons friends in England had this to say about
Blair. His murder would be justified.

Galloway says murder of Blair would be 'justified'
By Oliver Duff
Published: 26 May 2006
The Respect MP George Galloway has said it would be morally justified for a suicide bomber to murder Tony Blair.

In an interview with GQ magazine, the reporter asked him: "Would the assassination of, say, Tony Blair by a suicide bomber - if there were no other casualties - be justified as revenge for the war on Iraq?"

Mr Galloway replied: "Yes, it would be morally justified. I am not calling for it - but if it happened it would be of a wholly different moral order to the events of 7/7. It would be entirely logical and explicable. And morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq - as Blair did."

The Labour MP Stephen Pound, a persistent critic of Mr Galloway during previous controversies, told The Sun that the Respect MP for Bethnal Green and Bow in east London was "disgraceful and truly twisted".

He said: "These comments take my breath away. Every time you think he can't sink any lower he goes and stuns you again. It's reprehensible to say it would be justified for a suicide bomber to assassinate anyone."

The Stop the War Coalition criticised Mr Galloway: "We don't agree with Tony Blair's actions, but neither do we agree with suicide bombers or assassinations."

Just hours after four bomb attacks killed 52 people on London's transport system last July, Mr Galloway said the city had "paid the price" for Mr Blair's decision to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. "Ten thousand Osama bin Ladens have been created at least by the events of the last two years," he told MPs in the Commons that day.

Mr Pound said at the time: "I thought George had sunk to the depths of sickness in the past but this exceeds anything he has done before." The Armed Forces minister, Adam Ingram, accused the Respect MP of "dipping his poisonous tongue in a pool of blood".

Mr Galloway yesterday made a surprise appearance on Cuban television with the Caribbean island's Communist dictator, Fidel Castro - whom he defended as a "lion" in a political world populated by "monkeys".

Mr Galloway shocked panellists on a live television discussion show in Havana by emerging on set mid-transmission to offer passionate support for Castro. Looking approvingly into each others' eyes, the pair embraced.

The Respect MP George Galloway has said it would be morally justified for a suicide bomber to murder Tony Blair.

In an interview with GQ magazine, the reporter asked him: "Would the assassination of, say, Tony Blair by a suicide bomber - if there were no other casualties - be justified as revenge for the war on Iraq?"

Mr Galloway replied: "Yes, it would be morally justified. I am not calling for it - but if it happened it would be of a wholly different moral order to the events of 7/7. It would be entirely logical and explicable. And morally equivalent to ordering the deaths of thousands of innocent people in Iraq - as Blair did."

The Labour MP Stephen Pound, a persistent critic of Mr Galloway during previous controversies, told The Sun that the Respect MP for Bethnal Green and Bow in east London was "disgraceful and truly twisted".

He said: "These comments take my breath away. Every time you think he can't sink any lower he goes and stuns you again. It's reprehensible to say it would be justified for a suicide bomber to assassinate anyone."

The Stop the War Coalition criticised Mr Galloway: "We don't agree with Tony Blair's actions, but neither do we agree with suicide bombers or assassinations."
Just hours after four bomb attacks killed 52 people on London's transport system last July, Mr Galloway said the city had "paid the price" for Mr Blair's decision to go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan. "Ten thousand Osama bin Ladens have been created at least by the events of the last two years," he told MPs in the Commons that day.

Mr Pound said at the time: "I thought George had sunk to the depths of sickness in the past but this exceeds anything he has done before." The Armed Forces minister, Adam Ingram, accused the Respect MP of "dipping his poisonous tongue in a pool of blood".

Mr Galloway yesterday made a surprise appearance on Cuban television with the Caribbean island's Communist dictator, Fidel Castro - whom he defended as a "lion" in a political world populated by "monkeys".

Mr Galloway shocked panellists on a live television discussion show in Havana by emerging on set mid-transmission to offer passionate support for Castro. Looking approvingly into each others' eyes, the pair embraced.

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Don't you love it, he is refered to as "respected" and he looked approvingly (maybe
lovingly) into each other's eys and embraced.

Oh, I so taken away..........yeah..... :spless: