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Yonivore
10-12-2004, 08:41 PM
PA security chief Moussa Arafat
escapes Gaza blast unhurt (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/487870.html)

A car bomb exploded near Palestinian security headquarters in Gaza City Tuesday evening as security chief Moussa Arafat's convoy was leaving, but he was not hurt, witnesses and security officials said. The convoy was seen speeding away from the scene as security officers fired submachine guns in the air. Security officials said none of the bodyguards were hurt.
Those responsible must re-take 'Assassination 101.' These misses just won't do.

The bastard's lucky it wasn't the Israelis.

IcemanCometh
10-12-2004, 08:45 PM
If we employ the same tactics as the enemy, what is the point of fighting said enemy.

Yonivore
10-12-2004, 08:50 PM
If we employ the same tactics as the enemy, what is the point of fighting said enemy.
To kill them. What, are you stupid?

But, as the story indicated, Israel denied responsibility. And, I'd venture to say the United States isn't involved either. Both countries use highly sophisticated, expensive ordinance -- not car bombs.

Can't I just root for one terrorist group to take out another?

IcemanCometh
10-12-2004, 09:07 PM
So the only reason we are killing the enemy is because they are the enemy? Not because of any sort of moral authority.

Yonivore
10-12-2004, 09:17 PM
So the only reason we are killing the enemy is because they are the enemy? Not because of any sort of moral authority.
What philosophical tangent are you off on?

Some terrorists try to blow up some other terrorists and you're discussing our moral authority?

If you're on about Iraq, we're at war with an element that declared war on the U.S., at least 3 times, since 1998. And, for 21 days in March and April of 2003, we were at war with a regime that had, by virtue of repeated violations of a 1991 cease-fire agreement, invited a resumption of hostilities.

IcemanCometh
10-12-2004, 09:53 PM
Those responsible must re-take 'Assassination 101.' These misses just won't do.


To kill them. What, are you stupid?

You seem to sanction actions like this. Just a bit hypocritical when you then scream about the evil terrorists we must hunt down because we have the moral imperative to do so.

Now is when you bring up 9/11 and how this gives us a blank check to do whatever we want. Believe it or not this did not begin with 9/11 and its beliefs like yours that mean it can never end.

Yonivore
10-12-2004, 11:26 PM
You seem to sanction actions like this.
No, I'm not going to get heartburn over one group of terrorists trying to kill another. I hope they're successful in killing each other off.

Just a bit hypocritical when you then scream about the evil terrorists we must hunt down because we have the moral imperative to do so.
There's that "moral imperative" phrase again. Frankly, I don't recall ever having said we had a "moral imperative" to "hunt down" terrorists. I honestly believe it is in the national security interests of this country to hunt them down and kill them.

Now is when you bring up 9/11 and how this gives us a blank check to do whatever we want.
I've never said that either. For instance, I don't believe we should go to Paris and kill Jacques Chirac -- even though the traitorous, corrupt, and evil bastard probably deserves killing. And, I don't advocate making Spain another "nexus" of terrorism by moving the battle from Iraq to there, even though they were cowed into voting in a socialist government by al Qaeda terrorists...

No, I've never claimed carte blanche in the war on terror. So far, our actions have been legitimate, warranted, and successful in the objective of destroying terrorism of global reach.

Believe it or not this did not begin with 9/11 and its beliefs like yours that mean it can never end.
I never made that claim either. It began roughly around the time these same Islamo-fascists took the Israeli olympic team hostage -- and subsequently slaughtered them -- in 1972.

But, it's time they were dealt with.

SpursWoman
10-12-2004, 11:32 PM
You seem to sanction actions like this. Just a bit hypocritical when you then scream about the evil terrorists we must hunt down because we have the moral imperative to do so.



So if Saddam Hussein & Osama bin Laden were to challenge each other to a duel, so to speak, you wouldn't hope they'd both go down? Just take each other out?

I would. I love irony. :)

whottt
10-13-2004, 12:36 AM
Geez what a snob you are Ice, just gotta feel superior to the terrorsts hmm? No wonder they want to detonate nuclear bombs in our cities and cut off our heads while we squeal like pigs.

It's not a case of who is better or more morally righteous.

It's like...they want to kill us or make us Islamic or someshit...and we want to kill them because :A. They wanted to kill us first. B. We think Islam sucks ass and looks like an incredibly boring lifestyle. I mean they like poke out your eyes and shit if they catch you looking at porn. Shit like that. C:Arabic looks like a pain in the ass to learn. D:We don't want to get nuked, just cuz.


Think of it like a football game Ice, and we're the home team. You don't analyze which football team is morally superior do you? You just root for the home team right?


Just look at it like a football game and you won't be so distrubed.

And if that doesn't work just pretend they're white.

IcemanCometh
10-13-2004, 12:59 AM
Jacques Chirac -- even though the traitorous, corrupt, and evil bastard probably deserves killing. When did he betray France? He is afterall their leader and is supposed to do what he believes is in their interest, not the interest of the United States. As for corrupt well thats a slipper slope you travel when you bandy about that word in relation to current world leaders.



It began roughly around the time these same Islamo-fascists took the Israeli olympic team hostage -- and subsequently slaughtered them -- in 1972.

It began way before that. You can almost say its never ended.

Yonivore
10-13-2004, 08:00 AM
Here's how Israel does it...


Israeli missile kills Hamas member (http://www.aljazeera.com/cgi-bin/news_service/middle_east_full_story.asp?service_id=5146)