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Leetonidas
05-27-2006, 06:44 PM
Does anyone have stats on this guy? I wanna know more about him.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/2004/08/28/20040827214026.jpeg

He's guarding Yao here, so maybe he does have the ability to play bigger people...

Bruno
05-27-2006, 06:55 PM
Euroleague stats :
http://www.euroleague.net/plantillas/jugador.jsp?id=BVE

I can post too his stats for domestic leagues (LKL and BBL) but it's not meaningfull because his team was way better than other teams playing this league.

SA Gunslinger
05-27-2006, 06:57 PM
From what I remember of him from the Olympics, he was strong and built like a tank.

His defense and rebounding seemed ok. But his physical presence around the basket is something I really liked which could benefit the Spurs.

Bruno
05-27-2006, 06:57 PM
http://bc.lrytas.lt/img/gallery/big_220.jpg

Unleash the Lithuanian beast.

Marco
05-27-2006, 07:02 PM
His ft% seems Spurs material...

boutons_
05-27-2006, 07:11 PM
Makes me think of Dolf Lundgren, nothern European beefcake. :lol
That dude is cut up!

210 cm = 6'10"

If he's coachable, has half a brain for basketball, and fearlessly loves to crash the boards and hustle, let's work him out. ie, a white Reggie Evans :)

Seems like he could allow us to forget Rasho and Nazr very quickly. Well, he'd probably have his head up his ass for the first year in USA/NBA.

Bruno
05-27-2006, 07:14 PM
210 cm = 6'10"



210cm = 6'11" :)

whottt
05-27-2006, 07:26 PM
Here is an interview with him from back in January:

http://www.euroleague.net/noticia.jsp?temporada=E05&jornada=10&id=1036


EL.net interview: Robertas Javtokas



Javtokas, comeback kid

He had plenty to do with his team reaching the Euroleague, and deserves credit now for it being the hottest team in the competition. Even so, you will not catch center Robertas Javtokas of Lietuvos Rytas taking any bows. Javtokas, MVP of last season's ULEB Cup Final and protagonist in his team's current seven-game Euroleague win streak, is the first to say, as he does in this Euroleague.net interview, that Lietuvos Rytas has no stars. Three years after the motorcycle accident that almost cut short his career, Javtokas is mature beyond his age, 25. "I don't want to remember too much and I don't want to forget," Javtokas told Euroleague.net. "It happened and was a part of my life. I am happy that I'm still playing...I respect the game more now, for sure. I know that it's real easy to lose everything."

Multi-language:

Last year at the ULEB Cup Final we saw how much Lietuvos Rytas wanted to join the Euroleague, but nobody thought you guys would take over once you got here. Did any of you expect to be Group B leaders at this stage of the season?

"I don't think anyone expected it, not us and not anyone. I also didn't think we would get beat by everybody we played. I remember thinking that we should just come to the Euroleague and play as good as possible and don't be losers. Of course, after losing the first two games, we might have thought the league was maybe too strong for us. But our coach still believed in us and put it in our heads that we were better than that and would do better. So we believed and kept playing and here we are."


Javtokas applauds fans

After losing those first two, you have a seven-game wining streak after beating every team in perhaps the Euroleague's toughest group. Lietuvos Rytas obviously wasn't as bad as the first two games, so are you as good as what we see now?

"I think, of course, that maybe there is a game in there that we won just because we were on a roll and nobody could stop us with all the emotion and everything we are playing with. Those first two games, it was all brand new to us and we were without any experience in the Euroleague. In the ULEB Cup last year, we won the first-round games by 20 and 30 points, but here it's very different. One, two, three points can decide every game. And in those first games we just didn't show what we could do. It's kind of incredible how terrible our shooting was, now that we have shown we have a lot of great shooters. Now, we know we can beat every team we faced, and also every other team knows that. I think they prepare differently for us now, and there's a difference for us going in. Nobody is thinking it's OK to lose by one or two as long as we don't lose by 20 or 30. We are going in now prepared to win and showing that."

Most impressive have been your road wins, at Barcelona, against Efes in Istanbul and Maccabi in Tel Aviv. What is the secret to the attitude you guys are stepping on these courts with?

Those first couple of games we won, no one expected it. Not Barcelona, for sure, and not Efes, either. Everyone thought maybe we were lucky. I don't know if it looked like we were a weak team coming to play a strong team, but they just weren't ready for us and we were very ready for them. That's because after our first two losses, we knew that another one might be it for us in the Euroleague, that we wouldn't come back from losing the first three. We went to Barcelona with a live-or-die idea in our heads. It was like that for us. We knew that if lost there, we were going to be in big trouble. The fans and sponsors were waiting for a win. It was like we couldn't come home if we lost that one."


Javtokas: a believer

Lietuvos Rytas kept pretty much same players who won the ULEB Cup and added Matt Nielsen. How much has knowing each other so well helped this team in the Euroleague so far?


"I think the time together helps. It gives us a lot. But I just think we play together. We know don't have a big star or someone you can give the ball to in the last seconds of every situation for him to finish. With our team, you never know who is going to score. And that makes for a good team, when all the players are equal and everyone can play. If one day someone is struggling, the other guys help him. And that's how we get it done."


That team chemistry - all the talking together on the court, the bench players involved - how did that chemistry come about?

"When you are winning, everyone is happy and wants to help each other. Right now, the team looks perfect. We don't have any problems. If we don't score or someone misses a shot, everyone helps each other. There's no yelling at each other, the team is going up together. Maybe we have right players, chosen by the general manager and the coaches. The bench players are always ready to help and don't cry about not playing enough. Everyone is happy with their minutes and just looking for the wins."

After suffering motorcycle accident a few years ago, the success of the last year must be extra special to you. Is it something you think about a lot?

"I don't want to remember too much and I don't want to forget. It happened and was a part of my life. I am happy that I'm still playing and that I came back. From my experience, I now think that a lot of guys can come back even if doctors say no. Now, my goal is to do what I believe and go forward, not just in basketball, but in anything."

How did the long comeback process help you to become a stronger player at both the physical and mental level?

"I know that I respect the game more now, for sure. And I know what I can do and can't do after the game, how to prepare myself. I know that it's real easy to lose everything. And that gives me more perspective."


Javtokas in hospital on day of accident


How did facing the best European players with the Lithuanian national team and in the ULEB Cup help you when came to the Euroleague?


"I knew a lot of players from the ULEB Cup and the Olympics, as you said, and I knew most of those guys played in the Euroleague. So it was good to play in those games to learn who they are and what they do. It gives you more trust in yourself when you face them here, because you know them and how strong they are. But you played against them, so you believe more in yourself, for sure, when you find them in the Euroleague. Even if they are big stars, you think of them as just another player like you."


Everyone saw last year how excited Vilnius was to have a Euroleague team. Now it must be crazy up there. What is the reaction of the city and the fans to this amazing Euroleague run?

"The fans are always with us. We always have a full arena of 11,000 for all the Euroleague games. They travel with us, too. There were a lot in Milan, for example. Now they are getting crazy. The start thinking about last year and how far we went. We know what they want and we want the same. Right now, you can start feeling how this is getting bigger and bigger. After the first two games, they said 'OK, we still believe'. So we have good fans. They believe and don't leave."

Now that Lietuvos Rytas is beating the expectations every week, how far can the team go in this competition?

"My opinion is that right now we are still just trying to make it to the Top 16. We don't think any further than that. Not about first place, second, and not the Final Four. We just want to go from this group and make it as far as we can. We can't think so far as the Final Four, but we want to go as far we can."

Jan 10, 2006 Frank Lawlor, Euroleague.net



http://www.euroleague.net/fotos/noticias/jornada1/med_1818_15.jpg http://www.euroleague.net/fotos/noticias/jornada1/med_1818_34.jpg http://www.euroleague.net/fotos/noticias/jornada1/med_1818_30.jpghttp://www.euroleague.net/fotos/noticias/jornada1/med_657_79.jpg

whottt
05-27-2006, 07:28 PM
Here are his relevant Euroleague stats:



Top 16
G. Match Min Pts 2FG
M-A 3FG
M-A FT
M-A Rebounds Ast ST TO Bl Fouls Rkg
O D T Cm Rv
15 vs CSKA Moscow 34:45 11 4/6 0/1 3/3 2 6 8 2 3 3 6 20
16 vs Bamberg 31:00 15 6/8 3/5 5 4 9 2 2 1 2 4 6 27
17 vs TAU 35:00 12 5/10 2/7 4 5 9 2 1 3 3 4 16
18 vs CSKA Moscow 35:45 5 2/4 0/1 1/2 3 12 15 2 2 3 5 1 14
19 vs TAU 22:15 7 3/7 1/2 3 4 7 3 1 3 2 10
20 vs Bamberg 34:15 7 3/10 0/2 1/5 8 4 12 2 2 2 5 4 7 15
6 Totals 193:00 57 23/45 0/4 11/24 25 35 60 6 9 9 16 22 26 102

Average 32:10 9.5 51.1% 0.00% 45.8% 4.1 5.8 10.0 1.0 1.5 1.5 2.6 3.6 4.3 17.0




Regular Season
G. Match Min Pts 2FG
M-A 3FG
M-A FT
M-A Rebounds Ast ST TO Bl Fouls Rkg
O D T Cm Rv
1 vs Cibona 19:15 10 3/6 4/10 6 2 8 1 1 1 3 6 12
2 vs Milano 26:30 4 2/4 0/2 1 2 3 1 2 1 2
3 vs Winterthur FCB 24:00 8 3/6 2/5 6 7 13 1 1 4 1 4 5 15
4 vs Olympiacos 17:45 8 4/7 0/2 2 2 2 4 2 0
5 vs Efes Pilsen 32:00 15 7/14 0/1 1/2 1 6 7 1 1 2 3 2 13
6 vs Maccabi 33:15 13 2/4 9/16 3 4 7 1 1 5 8 16
7 vs Prokom Trefl 21:00 8 3/4 2/6 1 4 5 1 1 1 4 3 8
8 vs Cibona 31:15 15 7/9 1/3 4 9 13 1 1 1 3 4 5 29
9 vs Milano 36:30 12 3/3 6/16 3 10 13 2 2 5 1 4 9 20
10 vs Winterthur FCB 34:15 13 4/9 1/1 2/6 4 10 14 1 3 4 1 4 23
11 vs Olympiacos 30:00 9 3/4 3/6 1 4 5 1 1 3 1 4 3 9
12 vs Efes Pilsen 16:15 2 1/6 1 1 2 2 1 1 4 1 0
13 vs Maccabi 33:00 10 5/7 0/2 0/1 1 4 5 1 3 4 3 5 14
14 vs Prokom Trefl 28:30 8 3/6 2/4 3 4 7 2 3 4 5 16
14 Totals 383:30 135 50/89 1/4 32/79 35 69 104 12 10 24 23 49 59 177

Average 27:23 9.6 56.1% 25.0% 40.5% 2.5 4.9 7.4 0.8 0.7 1.7 1.6 3.5 4.2 12.6



Accumulated
G.P. Match Min Pts 2FG
M-A 3FG
M-A FT
M-A Rebounds Ast ST TO Bl Fouls Rkg
O D T Cm Rv
20 Totals 576:30 192 73/134 1/8 43/103 60 104 164 18 19 33 39 71 85 279

Average 28:49 9.6 54.4% 12.5% 41.7% 3.0 5.2 8.2 0.9 0.9 1.6 1.9 3.5 4.2 13.9

whottt
05-27-2006, 07:31 PM
Euoleague Leaders:


Rebounds
Rank Player Team Games Def. Off. Total Ave.
1 MILOJEVIC, DEJAN Partizan 12 76 45 121 10.08
2 TURKCAN, MIRSAD Ulker 10 67 31 98 9.80
3 REYES, FELIPE Real Madrid 13 82 38 120 9.23
4 NELSON, SPENCER Bamberg 14 85 41 126 9.00
5 LAVRINOVIC, DARJUS Zalgiris 14 90 25 115 8.21
6 ANDERSEN, DAVID CSKA Moscow 12 72 20 92 7.66
7 JAVTOKAS, ROBERTAS L. Rytas 14 69 35 104 7.42
8 BLAIR, JOSEPH Milano 11 54 26 80 7.27
9 BOUROUSSIS, YIANNIS AEK 11 56 23 79 7.18
10 GONLUM, KEREM Efes Pilsen 14 69 30 99 7.07
11 JANKUNAS, PAULIUS Zalgiris 14 65 31 96 6.85
12 GOREE, MARCUS Benetton 14 66 30 96 6.85
13 WESSON, K’ZELL Strasbourg 14 61 33 94 6.71
14 WATSON, TRAVIS Climamio 14 56 38 94 6.71
15 GARBAJOSA, JORGE Unicaja 14 82 11 93 6.64




Blocks
Rank Player Team Games Total Ave.
1 LAVRINOVIC, DARJUS Zalgiris 14 38 2.71
2 HAISLIP, MARCUS Ulker 13 24 1.84
3 JAVTOKAS, ROBERTAS L. Rytas 14 23 1.64
4 HAMILTON, VENSON Real Madrid 14 21 1.50
5 GOREE, MARCUS Benetton 14 18 1.28
6 SCOLA, LUIS TAU 14 16 1.14
7 DIAMANTIDIS, DIMITRIOS Panathinaikos 14 14 1.00
8 RUPERT, THIERRY Pau-Orthez 14 14 1.00
9 BASTON, MACEO Maccabi 14 14 1.00
10 FUCKA, GREGOR Winterthur FCB 13 13 1.00
11 BARGNANI, ANDREA Benetton 12 12 1.00
12 GARBAJOSA, JORGE Unicaja 14 13 0.92
13 MASIULIS, TOMAS Prokom Trefl 14 13 0.92
14 VUJCIC, NIKOLA Maccabi 13 12 0.92
15 MARCONATO, DENIS Winterthur FCB 14 12 0.85



It should be noted this is a very small sample size of games compared to the NBA...


Basically Javtokas averages about:
7+ RBG
1.50+ BPG
9+ PPG
56% FG%
27+ MPG

boutons_
05-27-2006, 07:34 PM
210 / 2.54 = 82.68 inches / 12 = 6.89 feet.

0.89 x 12 = 10.68 inches

210 cm = 6 ft 11 inches, almost

what's his vertical reach?

Sean says one doesn't rebound with top of the head.
Looks like he has Rasho/Yao-short arms.

6'11" is plenty, any short arms can be compensated for with getting into rebounding position and blocking out. All we need him to do is rebound and takes responsiblity for the paint and rotating quickly.

ALVAREZ6
05-27-2006, 07:36 PM
Euoleague Leaders:


Rebounds
Rank Player Team Games Def. Off. Total Ave.
1 MILOJEVIC, DEJAN Partizan 12 76 45 121 10.08
2 TURKCAN, MIRSAD Ulker 10 67 31 98 9.80
3 REYES, FELIPE Real Madrid 13 82 38 120 9.23
4 NELSON, SPENCER Bamberg 14 85 41 126 9.00
5 LAVRINOVIC, DARJUS Zalgiris 14 90 25 115 8.21
6 ANDERSEN, DAVID CSKA Moscow 12 72 20 92 7.66
7 JAVTOKAS, ROBERTAS L. Rytas 14 69 35 104 7.42
8 BLAIR, JOSEPH Milano 11 54 26 80 7.27
9 BOUROUSSIS, YIANNIS AEK 11 56 23 79 7.18
10 GONLUM, KEREM Efes Pilsen 14 69 30 99 7.07
11 JANKUNAS, PAULIUS Zalgiris 14 65 31 96 6.85
12 GOREE, MARCUS Benetton 14 66 30 96 6.85
13 WESSON, K’ZELL Strasbourg 14 61 33 94 6.71
14 WATSON, TRAVIS Climamio 14 56 38 94 6.71
15 GARBAJOSA, JORGE Unicaja 14 82 11 93 6.64




Blocks
Rank Player Team Games Total Ave.
1 LAVRINOVIC, DARJUS Zalgiris 14 38 2.71
2 HAISLIP, MARCUS Ulker 13 24 1.84
3 JAVTOKAS, ROBERTAS L. Rytas 14 23 1.64
4 HAMILTON, VENSON Real Madrid 14 21 1.50
5 GOREE, MARCUS Benetton 14 18 1.28
6 SCOLA, LUIS TAU 14 16 1.14
7 DIAMANTIDIS, DIMITRIOS Panathinaikos 14 14 1.00
8 RUPERT, THIERRY Pau-Orthez 14 14 1.00
9 BASTON, MACEO Maccabi 14 14 1.00
10FUCKA, GREGOR Winterthur FCB 13 13 1.00
11 BARGNANI, ANDREA Benetton 12 12 1.00
12 GARBAJOSA, JORGE Unicaja 14 13 0.92
13 MASIULIS, TOMAS Prokom Trefl 14 13 0.92
14 VUJCIC, NIKOLA Maccabi 13 12 0.92
15 MARCONATO, DENIS Winterthur FCB 14 12 0.85



It should be noted this is a very small sample size of games compared to the NBA...


Basically Javtokas averages about:
7+ RBG
1.50+ BPG
9+ PPG
56% FG%
27+ MPG



:lmao

whottt
05-27-2006, 07:38 PM
Robertas Draft Scouting Report from 2001:


Robertas Javtokas


Full Name:
Robertas Javtokas
Position:
Forward
College:
Arizona
Height:
6-10 (208 cm)
Weight:
205 (93 kg)
High School:
Bishop McGuiness HS, Winston-Salem, N.C.
then St. Mary's HS, Akron, Ohio
Birthdate:
March 20, 1980
Birthplace:
Siauliai, Lithuania

Statistics



NBA DRAFT 2001
Selected in second round (56th pick overall) by the San Antonio Spurs.

HIGHLIGHTS
Played one semester of Division I basketball at Arizona in fall of 1999 before returning to play in Lithuania for Lietuvos Rytas the past one and a half seasons.
Played one season of high school basketball in the United States (1997-98 season) for Bishop McGuiness of Winston-Salem, N.C.
Transferred to St. Mary's High School of Akron, Ohio, for 1998-99 academic year, but was prohibited from playing that season due to state high school rules in Ohio that prevent foreign transfers from playing in their second seasons.

This season for Lietuvos Rytas, earned significant playing time in his first full season.
Averaging 23.7 minutes in his team's first 22 games, averaged 11.2 points and 8.4 rebounds.
Excellent offensive rebounder, grabbing nearly three per game in his limited minutes.
Played in the Lithuanian League All-Star Game and won the Slam Dunk contest held that weekend.

In his return to Lithuania in January 2000, played 16.8 minutes per game in 12 games, averaging 4.3 points and 4.8 rebounds as Lietuvos Rytas won the league championship.

According to scouting reports, he is an athletic big man with extraordinary leaping ability and speed, but without polished offensive skills.
Scores many of his points by out-leaping opponents for offensive rebound baskets and dunks.
Known as a quick jumper who will make multiple jumps for rebounds.
Uses his leaping ability on defensive end to record blocked shots and to grab rebounds.

According to Suproleague Yearbook, gained instant fame in Lithuania by dunking on a basket raised to 3.592 m, or slightly more than 11 feet, 8 inches high.

Leetonidas
05-27-2006, 07:38 PM
210 / 2.54 = 82.68 inches / 12 = 6.89 feet.

0.89 x 12 = 10.68 inches

210 cm = 6 ft 11 inches, almost

what's his vertical reach?

Sean says one doesn't rebound with top of the head.
Looks like he has Rasho/Yao-short arms.

6'11" is plenty, any short arms can be compensated for with getting into rebounding position and blocking out. All we need him to do is rebound and takes responsiblity for the paint and rotating quickly.

He's grabbing 7+ boards a game.

Leetonidas
05-27-2006, 07:40 PM
11 feet and 8 inches? Holy crap. White men CAN jump.

boutons_
05-27-2006, 07:40 PM
"without polished offensive skills. "

just like half the ballas in the NBA, or like Rasho and Nazr. :)

We don't need to him score anything put putbacks, dunks, layups from within the paint.

whottt
05-27-2006, 07:41 PM
Too bad Fucka is getting too old to play in the NBA...

He'd have had the best selling jersey of all time.


And I am going to regreat for the rest of my life that:

1.Charles Barkley never got to do a post game commentary on a game in which Fucka played.

2.I will never hear Bill Walton say: Throw it down Fucka! Throw it down.

objective
05-27-2006, 07:49 PM
you can see him in videos from the Rytas team site, in the lithuanian language site under Multimedia and Videos, and some highlights of Rytas from you tube.

he is exactly what the Spurs need at center, someone who can both block shots and rebound, while finishing strong and running the court very well.

whottt
05-27-2006, 08:05 PM
"without polished offensive skills. "

just like half the ballas in the NBA, or like Rasho and Nazr. :)

We don't need to him score anything put putbacks, dunks, layups from within the paint.



This guy is nothing like Rasho, or really Nazr either...completely different game especially from Rasho. About the only thing he has in common with Rasho is that they are both good shotblockers. Nazr isn't really a good shotblocker and would be a great dunker if he had better hands and wasn't inlove with pump faking.

The times I have seen Javtokas...he definitely isn't soft, he will dunk it and he's not a afraid of contact and he doesn't seem to have bad hands.

But in the Olympics he did have a habit of making bonehead fouls ala Nazr.

Last year when I saw him in a couple of games he didn't really play like a bonehead but I wouldn't say he was a smooth player.


There is no telling what kind of shotblocker he will be in the NBA...since the Euroleague is much more of a jump shooters league and the sample size is so small...

But he can dunk, jump, isn't afraid contact and he has an awesome work ethic from the looks of things...I don't know if he has the speed to play C in the NBA but I serously doubt he is any slower than Rasho or Nazr.


Generally speaking...if a guy is 6'10+, can jump, works hard, and isn't afraid of contact, he will be a good rebounder.

I think the guy is going to fit well on this team and I think his game will translate to the NBA well.

Then again,.I thought Oberto's game would translate to the NBA well also..but to be fair to me ;) I never thought Oberto was an athlete...Javtokas is an athlete.

objective
05-27-2006, 08:12 PM
The great thing about Javtokas is the way he's improved. He was a surprise by even being invited to the Olympic trials. Then surprised again by making the team. Sure played stiff on that team, but that was 2 years ago. Don't forget that was only 2 years after his accident! And after the accident the first plate in his leg snapped and he had to come to America to get a rod inserted. He was told by the emergency room doctor that walking again would take a year!

In the 2 years since then is when he's drawn the notice he has, become the elite European player that he has. He has good offers from Euroleague powerhouses now apparently. Not only has he gotten better but he's getting better.

He's a player who can still improve with access to the Spurs coaches and facilities.

whottt
05-27-2006, 08:14 PM
Looks like he has Rasho/Yao-short arms.

.


Rasho doesn't have short arms....

whottt
05-27-2006, 08:17 PM
you can see him in videos from the Rytas team site, in the lithuanian language site under Multimedia and Videos, and some highlights of Rytas from you tube.


Do you have the links?

Spurologist
05-27-2006, 08:28 PM
210cm = 6'11" :)

210 cm = 6'10" 1/2 :)

Borosai
05-27-2006, 08:50 PM
I like what I see...athletic is the key word, and that's a huge need. Sign him up!

Spurologist
05-27-2006, 08:59 PM
FUCKA, GREGOR Winterthur

Hypothetical: he messes up on the play. "That FUCKA can't do shit right now"

:lmao :lmao

objective
05-27-2006, 09:25 PM
Do you have the links?

right click & save as

http://bc.lrytas.lt/media/lrytas2005.wmv

http://bc.lrytas.lt/media/2005%20UlebCup%20Final.wmv

for the following i strongly recommend you switch to full screen mode, and these can't really be downloaded.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWi_ez_wbIM&search=rytas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zftIA6so3Fo&search=rytas

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5BRhecUEV8&search=rytas

exstatic
05-27-2006, 09:41 PM
11 feet and 8 inches? Holy crap. White men CAN jump.
Keep in mind that was BEFORE his motorcycle accident.

Doc Jerome
05-27-2006, 09:43 PM
Yeah, yeah, . . . we all know he will get his shot. Who else will the Spurs get to supplement the new help. Spurs still need more athleticism. Stay tuned, . . . :fro

BgT
05-27-2006, 09:59 PM
Does anyone have stats on this guy? I wanna know more about him.

http://www.taipeitimes.com/images/2004/08/28/20040827214026.jpeg

He's guarding Yao here, so maybe he does have the ability to play bigger people...
Yeah, he's doing a great job here. In fucking smallball NBA, this is a foul, Yao just needs to turn around the full way and make a step to the side.



Hypothetical: he messes up on the play. "That FUCKA can't do shit right now"
Pronunciation is something completely different than you would imagine here. :lol

Doc Jerome
05-27-2006, 10:10 PM
Yeah, he's doing a great job here. In fucking smallball NBA, this is a foul, Yao just needs to turn around the full way and make a step to the side.

Correct, Stern is turning the NBA into a primadonna league. I think the USA basketball squad will get it's collective butts kicked in international play because of this. These guys won't be able to handle the contact.

gospursgojas
05-28-2006, 12:15 AM
So Javtokas went to school in the US???

Spurologist
05-28-2006, 12:16 AM
robertas Javtokas

zeleni
05-28-2006, 06:46 AM
Do not make fun of a Slovene.

Gregor Fuchka is one of the greats in European basketball and an European champion.

But really, wouldn't Barkley or Walton at least tried to remember the proper pronounciation? I would think so.

TDMVPDPOY
05-28-2006, 07:33 AM
can he gaurd quick 3s or big 3s like dirk n tmac?

exstatic
05-28-2006, 08:47 AM
So Javtokas went to school in the US???
I think he played some HS ball, one semester at UA, and then signed to play in Europe. At that point, you are automatically draft eligable. A similar thing happened with Sanikidze. He came over and played one semester of JUCO ball at a very young age, like 16(?) and then went back to play pro ball. The Spurs are good at ferreting out these things. Neither of these guys would have appeared on any early entry list.

TDMVPDPOY
05-28-2006, 11:54 AM
he played for arizona or sumshit

leemajors
05-28-2006, 12:59 PM
can he gaurd quick 3s or big 3s like dirk n tmac?

no center or true pf can guard tmac

objective
05-28-2006, 01:30 PM
So Javtokas went to school in the US???

he played 8 games at Arizona and scored a total of 6 points. As you can guess, he wasn't exactly in the rotation. One of the articles I've read had him relating that the reason he left Arizona to be a pro in europe was that he was tired of sitting on the bench.

WalterBenitez
05-28-2006, 02:31 PM
Why dont we bring this two kids for next season?

objective
05-28-2006, 03:37 PM
he is indeed rocked up.

whottt
05-28-2006, 04:16 PM
Do not make fun of a Slovene.

LOL!


Gregor Fuchka is one of the greats in European basketball and an European champion.

But really, wouldn't Barkley or Walton at least tried to remember the proper pronounciation? I would think so.


You think he's great over there...Fucka is a household name over here.

Mother Fucka should be proud :smokin

whottt
05-28-2006, 04:17 PM
And while some pros would try to get the correct pronunciation...they'd only be doing it because they had to.....in truth, they'd want to use the phonetic pronunciation just like everyone else.

Charles Barkley would have a stroke trying make himself pronounce that name correctly.

whottt
05-28-2006, 04:20 PM
Keep in mind that was BEFORE his motorcycle accident.



CC said that earlier this year the coach said he could cancel practice if Javtokas could jump over a car....which he did.

The guy still has hops and has no problem dunking the ball, with style.

ChumpDumper
05-28-2006, 04:28 PM
What kind of car? :p

whottt
05-28-2006, 04:29 PM
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Damn...I thought the forum seemed a little stupider than usual lately ;).

WB.

whottt
05-28-2006, 04:31 PM
What kind of car? :p


Dunno but I have to imagine a @ 7 footer jumping over any car is a rare site and impressive...that's a lot of legs to get over that car.

picnroll
05-28-2006, 04:33 PM
Think that story about jumping over a car was from pre-injury.

ChumpDumper
05-28-2006, 04:34 PM
I wonder how the coach would've felt had he not cleared it and broke his leg again....

At any rate, my opinion about Javtokas remains as it has since his comeback. Bring him over.

whottt
05-28-2006, 04:36 PM
He jumped over a car in a bet with his coach this year...the coach had to give the whole team the rest of the day off in practice if he could do it...and he did.

whottt
05-28-2006, 04:39 PM
Point being...whether you believe the car story or not, whether it is true or not, or whether you have just watched the videos provided by objective, the guy can still get up in the air...

Since the NBA rim isn't 11 feet high...I don't think it's a huge loss for him to no longer be able to dunk on one. He can still jump well though, as is obvious in those videos.

exstatic
05-28-2006, 04:46 PM
CC said that earlier this year the coach said he could cancel practice if Javtokas could jump over a car....which he did.

The guy still has hops and has no problem dunking the ball, with style.

Oh, I have no doubt he still has hops. Even getting back to 90% of before would be impressive. I just wanted peeps to know that in case they are wondering why he might not be jumping quite that high. If he can dunk on a 10 ft rim and rebound, I'm all over it, whottt.

intlspurshk
05-28-2006, 09:54 PM
I like RJ and he would be an upgrade from Oberto/Rasho in terms of strength but I am very worried about his health (given the car accident pose great damages to his body which may eventually hurt him if he play so frequently in the NBA) and he also seems to be a foul magnet. Other than that I have no concerns on bring him over.

adonis827
05-28-2006, 10:02 PM
anybody noticed that he attended the same high school as lebron?

Solid D
05-28-2006, 10:05 PM
Yeah, LeBron and Richard Jefferson both went over to Robertas at the Olympics and talked with him when USA played Lithuania. He knows Jefferson from his short stay at U of A.